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#51
Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:
The Cubs payroll is $146,859,000.
What have they done?
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Yankees Win..........
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#52
Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Just because you have a slightly higher payroll than a team doesn’t mean you should have a better record than them. That’s silly.
However, if you have a payroll that is almost 3 times more than a team, you have no excuse.
Surely even a yankee homer can see the difference.
Is there history stating that a team with the highest payroll wins every year?
Nope.
The Red Sox have a payroll of $91 million more than the Rays. Why don't they have a better record?
Because it doesn't work that way.
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#55
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
How much money does Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Pettitte, make p/ year and how do they factor into the pay roll.... 4 Players who were born with the Yanks who have earned their salaries....
How much money does Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Pettitte, make p/ year and how do they factor into the pay roll.... 4 Players who were born with the Yanks who have earned their salaries....
Add Cano too.
But that's a pointless arguement. They'll just say "well other teams can't afford to keep their home grown talent because the Yankees will buy them."
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#56
Look, it must be great to be a Yankee fan because you are in contention every year, congrats! But you give the Pirates 200 million to spend and the Yankees 35 million to spend let's see who's on top and who's on the bottom! Of course your team is going to be very good because you are able to spend the most money on the very best talent. Now if you want to call that greatness then more power to you! I call greatness, doing alot more with a lot less! Like the Rays are currently doing!
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#59
Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Uriss, when you have nothing to counter with but to make personal attacks you know you have lost the argument.
It's impossible to counter delusion and stupidity ... But give yourself around of applause for thinking you know what your talking about
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#60
Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:
Look, it must be great to be a Yankee fan because you are in contention every year, congrats! But you give the Pirates 200 million to spend and the Yankees 35 million to spend let's see who's on top and who's on the bottom! Of course your team is going to be very good because you are able to spend the most money on the very best talent. Now if you want to call that greatness then more power to you! I call greatness, doing alot more with a lot less! Like the Rays are currently doing!
Look, it must be great to be a Yankee fan because you are in contention every year, congrats! But you give the Pirates 200 million to spend and the Yankees 35 million to spend let's see who's on top and who's on the bottom! Of course your team is going to be very good because you are able to spend the most money on the very best talent. Now if you want to call that greatness then more power to you! I call greatness, doing alot more with a lot less! Like the Rays are currently doing!
Exactly.
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#63
Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
So when you have a payroll that is more than 4 teams COMBINED, you consider winning a single world series over the course of 9 seasons to be a great accomplishment.
Now that’s just pathetic. Funny, but still pathetic.
You're lucky you have a Gina Carano avatar. I'll take it easier on you.
Obviously it's not an "accomplishment". As a Yankee fan...I expect to win every year because our team is filled with All-Stars. However...I know that it's not a realistic goal. That's not the arguement here. The arguement is that you're saying that they spend more money than the Rays, so they "should" have a better record. But you know that's far from the truth. They have a better record than any other team in baseball with lower payrolls. Like I said. What's the difference between them and the Red Sox? Cubs? Phillies? Mets? They have the better record with a huge payroll difference.
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#66
Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:
Choate
Soriano
Wheeler
Pena
Crawford
Did I win? Not sure if I got them ALL. I'm not good with these games.
However...if you go by performance and what these guys "should" be making...that's a lot more than the $71,000,000 they're working with now.
Bartlett
Garza
Upton
James Shield (had arbitration and team control bought out and thus has a very inexpensive contract)
Shoppach
Navarro
Balfour
David Price
Howell
Aybar
Cormier
Niemann
Longoria (had arbitration years bought out, paid below market value)
Choate
Zobrist
Sonnastine
Joyce
Sean Rodriguez
Wade Davis
Brignac
Ekstrom
Anderson
Hellickson
Lets put ti this way... Every single player on the roster minus 4 players. Thats why their payroll is so low. But as a Yankee fan you continually ignore such remedial facts when you talk about team payroll and salaries.
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#67
Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:
Is there history stating that a team with the highest payroll wins every year?
Nope.
The Red Sox have a payroll of $91 million more than the Rays. Why don't they have a better record?
Because it doesn't work that way.
Yes there is factual data. But everytime i post it you ignore it and call it frivolous
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Posted:
#68
Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:
Look, it must be great to be a Yankee fan because you are in contention every year, congrats! But you give the Pirates 200 million to spend and the Yankees 35 million to spend let's see who's on top and who's on the bottom! Of course your team is going to be very good because you are able to spend the most money on the very best talent. Now if you want to call that greatness then more power to you! I call greatness, doing alot more with a lot less! Like the Rays are currently doing!
Look, it must be great to be a Yankee fan because you are in contention every year, congrats! But you give the Pirates 200 million to spend and the Yankees 35 million to spend let's see who's on top and who's on the bottom! Of course your team is going to be very good because you are able to spend the most money on the very best talent. Now if you want to call that greatness then more power to you! I call greatness, doing alot more with a lot less! Like the Rays are currently doing!
Hahahahahaah the lack of knowledge you share along with this strait shooter guy is beyond commical.... The Steinbrenner Era is BEYOND greatness... talk to your Mets ownership who participates in the same city with no success
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#69
Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
It's impossible to counter delusion and stupidity ... But give yourself around of applause for thinking you know what your talking about
It's impossible to counter delusion and stupidity ... But give yourself around of applause for thinking you know what your talking about
At least Sparky is trying to debate in a civil manner and uses some logic. All you have is personal attacks and emoticons. I actually feel sorry for you.
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#70
Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:
You're lucky you have a Gina Carano avatar. I'll take it easier on you.
Obviously it's not an "accomplishment". As a Yankee fan...I expect to win every year because our team is filled with All-Stars. However...I know that it's not a realistic goal. That's not the arguement here. The arguement is that you're saying that they spend more money than the Rays, so they "should" have a better record. But you know that's far from the truth. They have a better record than any other team in baseball with lower payrolls. Like I said. What's the difference between them and the Red Sox? Cubs? Phillies? Mets? They have the better record with a huge payroll difference.
You see at least Sparky is objective unlike the 
URISS tool that doesn't have a clue.
URISS tool that doesn't have a clue. 0
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#71
Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:
She got boxed for this not too long ago! Just a matter of time before she's boxed again! She's classless!
It’s not difficult to see why she was boxed before. She needs to learn how to not become so frustrated that you resort to personal attacks just because you do not know how to debate like an adult.
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#72
Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:
Look, it must be great to be a Yankee fan because you are in contention every year, congrats! But you give the Pirates 200 million to spend and the Yankees 35 million to spend let's see who's on top and who's on the bottom! Of course your team is going to be very good because you are able to spend the most money on the very best talent. Now if you want to call that greatness then more power to you! I call greatness, doing alot more with a lot less! Like the Rays are currently doing!
Look, it must be great to be a Yankee fan because you are in contention every year, congrats! But you give the Pirates 200 million to spend and the Yankees 35 million to spend let's see who's on top and who's on the bottom! Of course your team is going to be very good because you are able to spend the most money on the very best talent. Now if you want to call that greatness then more power to you! I call greatness, doing alot more with a lot less! Like the Rays are currently doing!
Well I blame the Pirates for that. I mean...they get all-star caliber players all the time and they they go into their "rebuilding" phase every 5 years. They never even attempt to give money out to star players that they bring up. All they do is try to win with what they have. Once McCutchen and Alvarez hit the free agent market, years from now, they will go back into rebuilding phase as they'll trade away those guys for more pieces.
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