Kind of a tough post here but this is what I have to say. The Yanks are out of control with their spending I agree but the Redsox are pathetic in that they have won seven world titles and the Yankees have won 26. Yet Bosox fan thinks he is on the same level. And oh by the way Redsox baseball is very profitable so your minimal spending on Payroll in comparision to the Yankees is pathetic. Here me Redsox Nation you are not and have never been in the same league as the Yankees...the same is true for my St. Louis Cardinals who have 10 world titles....but at least we know the difference!!!!!!!!!!! For the 20 something Redsox Fan please understand the game has been played for a long time. If I liked the Yankees I would point out that Redsox fan can't hold the yanks jock strap.....and it is funny watching them try.
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Kind of a tough post here but this is what I have to say. The Yanks are out of control with their spending I agree but the Redsox are pathetic in that they have won seven world titles and the Yankees have won 26. Yet Bosox fan thinks he is on the same level. And oh by the way Redsox baseball is very profitable so your minimal spending on Payroll in comparision to the Yankees is pathetic. Here me Redsox Nation you are not and have never been in the same league as the Yankees...the same is true for my St. Louis Cardinals who have 10 world titles....but at least we know the difference!!!!!!!!!!! For the 20 something Redsox Fan please understand the game has been played for a long time. If I liked the Yankees I would point out that Redsox fan can't hold the yanks jock strap.....and it is funny watching them try.
I expect the Red Sox to easily win the East next year
I'll take Beckett-Matsuzaka-Penny-Lester-Smoltz over Sabathia-Burnett-Wang-Chamberlain-Hughes every day of the week
Yankees win 88 games & finish 3rd
Maybe Redox beat Yanks next year but that is not the point of this thread. Historically they are a joke compared to the Yanks and its high time they realized it. I think it is a stretch to hand them the title this year. Ill take the Yanks top three over the Sox and then we are talking bullpens for the most part.Both have good line ups but we both know a motivated Manny probably wins the Series for the Redsox last year.
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Quote Originally Posted by revengeissweet1:
I respect both
I expect the Red Sox to easily win the East next year
I'll take Beckett-Matsuzaka-Penny-Lester-Smoltz over Sabathia-Burnett-Wang-Chamberlain-Hughes every day of the week
Yankees win 88 games & finish 3rd
Maybe Redox beat Yanks next year but that is not the point of this thread. Historically they are a joke compared to the Yanks and its high time they realized it. I think it is a stretch to hand them the title this year. Ill take the Yanks top three over the Sox and then we are talking bullpens for the most part.Both have good line ups but we both know a motivated Manny probably wins the Series for the Redsox last year.
I think the Sox won the sentimental vote after all those years of suffering.........many of them Yank-influenced. Then when the Sox start acting like the Yankees, it was like "Who do you think you are?"
Ah, the Yankees. What can you say? Gotta be the most loved/hated team in baseball-often by their own "fans"
Someone once said rooting for the Yankees "was like rooting for US Steel" such was their dominance. Having the Kansas City A's as your own minor league club in the majors was a nice trick, too.
What's been great has been The Rivalry. Although I don't think it needs to be broadcast on the Every Sox Player Now network, it has been great for baseball. You Cubs/Cards fans know what I'm talking about. It's instilled in you from your parents while you're young. Sometimes, people rebel from the home team. The hell with the Yanks/Cubs, I'm rooting for the Mets! The White Sox!
Even the sportswriters for these teams are great. Check out NYDaily News, Boston Globe, ChiSunTimes, etc., just fabulous!
Bob Ryan and Mike Lupica every Sunday on The Sports Reporters on ESPN News IS MUST SEE TV.
Great to be talking baseball!
A Yankees/RSox thread? Might die this November.............
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I think the Sox won the sentimental vote after all those years of suffering.........many of them Yank-influenced. Then when the Sox start acting like the Yankees, it was like "Who do you think you are?"
Ah, the Yankees. What can you say? Gotta be the most loved/hated team in baseball-often by their own "fans"
Someone once said rooting for the Yankees "was like rooting for US Steel" such was their dominance. Having the Kansas City A's as your own minor league club in the majors was a nice trick, too.
What's been great has been The Rivalry. Although I don't think it needs to be broadcast on the Every Sox Player Now network, it has been great for baseball. You Cubs/Cards fans know what I'm talking about. It's instilled in you from your parents while you're young. Sometimes, people rebel from the home team. The hell with the Yanks/Cubs, I'm rooting for the Mets! The White Sox!
Even the sportswriters for these teams are great. Check out NYDaily News, Boston Globe, ChiSunTimes, etc., just fabulous!
Bob Ryan and Mike Lupica every Sunday on The Sports Reporters on ESPN News IS MUST SEE TV.
Great to be talking baseball!
A Yankees/RSox thread? Might die this November.............
You started this thread because? Because I believe the most successful franchise in all of professional sport deserves all baseball fans respect. I do not believe the Redsox fans in general do that. I do not like the Yankees at all but found the average Red Sox Fan has lost perspective in winning a couple of titles in recent years. I am a traditional baseball die hard fan but most importantly love the game and think my thread brings historical perspective regardless of whether I like it or not.
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Quote Originally Posted by redsoxwin:
Not sure what warranted your rant...
but to pile all fans of a club into one pile ...
is well...
a pile.
You started this thread because? Because I believe the most successful franchise in all of professional sport deserves all baseball fans respect. I do not believe the Redsox fans in general do that. I do not like the Yankees at all but found the average Red Sox Fan has lost perspective in winning a couple of titles in recent years. I am a traditional baseball die hard fan but most importantly love the game and think my thread brings historical perspective regardless of whether I like it or not.
I think the Sox won the sentimental vote after all those years of suffering.........many of them Yank-influenced. Then when the Sox start acting like the Yankees, it was like "Who do you think you are?"
Ah, the Yankees. What can you say? Gotta be the most loved/hated team in baseball-often by their own "fans"
Someone once said rooting for the Yankees "was like rooting for US Steel" such was their dominance. Having the Kansas City A's as your own minor league club in the majors was a nice trick, too.
What's been great has been The Rivalry. Although I don't think it needs to be broadcast on the Every Sox Player Now network, it has been great for baseball. You Cubs/Cards fans know what I'm talking about. It's instilled in you from your parents while you're young. Sometimes, people rebel from the home team. The hell with the Yanks/Cubs, I'm rooting for the Mets! The White Sox!
Even the sportswriters for these teams are great. Check out NYDaily News, Boston Globe, ChiSunTimes, etc., just fabulous!
Bob Ryan and Mike Lupica every Sunday on The Sports Reporters on ESPN News IS MUST SEE TV.
Great to be talking baseball!
A Yankees/RSox thread? Might die this November.............
Hawk great points from a big baseball fan. Cant wait till opening day!
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Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:
I think the Sox won the sentimental vote after all those years of suffering.........many of them Yank-influenced. Then when the Sox start acting like the Yankees, it was like "Who do you think you are?"
Ah, the Yankees. What can you say? Gotta be the most loved/hated team in baseball-often by their own "fans"
Someone once said rooting for the Yankees "was like rooting for US Steel" such was their dominance. Having the Kansas City A's as your own minor league club in the majors was a nice trick, too.
What's been great has been The Rivalry. Although I don't think it needs to be broadcast on the Every Sox Player Now network, it has been great for baseball. You Cubs/Cards fans know what I'm talking about. It's instilled in you from your parents while you're young. Sometimes, people rebel from the home team. The hell with the Yanks/Cubs, I'm rooting for the Mets! The White Sox!
Even the sportswriters for these teams are great. Check out NYDaily News, Boston Globe, ChiSunTimes, etc., just fabulous!
Bob Ryan and Mike Lupica every Sunday on The Sports Reporters on ESPN News IS MUST SEE TV.
Great to be talking baseball!
A Yankees/RSox thread? Might die this November.............
Hawk great points from a big baseball fan. Cant wait till opening day!
It's great to have a storied franchise and all...but I like to live by the "what have you done for me lately" cliche....and this century...We came back from 3-0 down to the yankees, and swept your cardinals in a 4 year span...but i do respect the Cardinals, I just don't respect this idiotic post....and I do respect the Yankees and their desire to win, but as a Sox fan...I'm obligated to hate them, and I do...Thank goodness not all Cardinals fans are as close minded as you are...good day sir
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It's great to have a storied franchise and all...but I like to live by the "what have you done for me lately" cliche....and this century...We came back from 3-0 down to the yankees, and swept your cardinals in a 4 year span...but i do respect the Cardinals, I just don't respect this idiotic post....and I do respect the Yankees and their desire to win, but as a Sox fan...I'm obligated to hate them, and I do...Thank goodness not all Cardinals fans are as close minded as you are...good day sir
I respect and ENVY both. Being a Yankee fan has been easy the past 15 years. I respect the fact that the Yankees have the money to spend. I respect that they go out and spend. If I am not mistaken.......Boston is the only team with a 100+ million dollar payroll that has won the WS. And they did it twice. They have a plan. They stick to it. They are not afraid to spend, either. But they also have young guys like Pedroia, Youk, Lowrie, Ellsbury etc. Boston is a model franchise my opinion. They mix FAs with youngsters. The Yankees are able to "outspend" their mistakes. I wish that I were a fan of EITHER organization.
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I respect and ENVY both. Being a Yankee fan has been easy the past 15 years. I respect the fact that the Yankees have the money to spend. I respect that they go out and spend. If I am not mistaken.......Boston is the only team with a 100+ million dollar payroll that has won the WS. And they did it twice. They have a plan. They stick to it. They are not afraid to spend, either. But they also have young guys like Pedroia, Youk, Lowrie, Ellsbury etc. Boston is a model franchise my opinion. They mix FAs with youngsters. The Yankees are able to "outspend" their mistakes. I wish that I were a fan of EITHER organization.
jack, you don't make any sense. sure the sox got the asses handed to them for 80 years as i can attest...being a longtime red sox fan. but your initial post makes zero sense and seems very childish. we can't hold the yanks jock strap? huh?
i think the sox have done very well the past 9 years thank you very much. i'll take the sox 40 man roster over the yankees and i'll take the sox drafting over the yankees. yankees have a great team don't get me wrong and they very well may win the division. but in my opinion, sox and rays are the teams to beat in the AL.
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jack, you don't make any sense. sure the sox got the asses handed to them for 80 years as i can attest...being a longtime red sox fan. but your initial post makes zero sense and seems very childish. we can't hold the yanks jock strap? huh?
i think the sox have done very well the past 9 years thank you very much. i'll take the sox 40 man roster over the yankees and i'll take the sox drafting over the yankees. yankees have a great team don't get me wrong and they very well may win the division. but in my opinion, sox and rays are the teams to beat in the AL.
Yankees haven't done jack in the last decade. And they aren't getting any younger. Lets see how many of these guys actually make it through the season.
And the only high priced player Boston wanted this offseason was Teixeira, and he made it known he wanted to go to New York. So who is Theo supposed to be spending on?
I think the low money risks of Smoltz, Penny, Saito and Baldelli could payoff pretty nicely if they are able to give us a decent amount of games. If anything, the main weak spot of Boston is the catching position where there is currently nobody penciled in to start.
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What a dumb thread.
Yankees haven't done jack in the last decade. And they aren't getting any younger. Lets see how many of these guys actually make it through the season.
And the only high priced player Boston wanted this offseason was Teixeira, and he made it known he wanted to go to New York. So who is Theo supposed to be spending on?
I think the low money risks of Smoltz, Penny, Saito and Baldelli could payoff pretty nicely if they are able to give us a decent amount of games. If anything, the main weak spot of Boston is the catching position where there is currently nobody penciled in to start.
The last time the cubs were in the World Series was 1945. They lost in 7 to the Tigers.
Learn your history there Jake...
Good point thought we were talking last year. I remember 2004 tough year. You probably remember 1946 since we are going back in time and all.
"Enos Slaughter is on first base with two away. Harry Walker at bat. Bob Klinger on the mound. He takes the stretch. Here's the pitch... there goes Slaughter. The ball is swung on, there's a line drive going into left-center field. It's in there for a base hit. Culberson fumbles the ball momentarily and Slaughter charges around second, heads for third. Pesky goes into short left field to take the relay from Culberson... And here comes Enos Slaughter rounding third! He's going to try for home! Here comes the throw and it is not in time! Slaughter scores!!"
The play would forever be known as "Slaughter's Mad Dash." St. Louis fans claimed it was the boldest baserunning feat in history. Red Sox fans blamed Johnny Pesky, claiming that he held onto the ball for a split second too long, and thus allowed the speedy Slaughter to score.
For his part, Slaughter summed up the play as follows:
"When the ball went into left-center, I hit second base and I said to myself, 'I can score.' I didn't know whether the ball had been cut off or not. I didn't know nothin'. It was a gutsy play. But, you know, two men out and the winning run, you can't let the grass grow under your feet."
The Ninth Inning
In the top of the ninth inning, Brecheen surrendered singles to the first two hitters, Rudy York and Bobby Doerr. But Boston's Pinky Higgins hit into a force out that moved pinch runner Paul Campbell to third. With one out, Boston's tying run was now just ninety feet from home plate.
Reserve catcher Roy Partee came up next, but he promptly popped out to Stan Musial, leaving the entire World Series up to pinch hitter Tom McBride. But the reserve outfielder hit a sharp grounder to Schoendienst at second base, who tossed the ball to shortstop Marty Marion for a game-ending force out.
The game was over. Cardinals win, 4-3.
The World Series was over. Cardinals win 4-3!
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Quote Originally Posted by redsoxwin:
Umm Jake... the Red Sox swept the Cards in 2004.
Renteria was the last at bat at Busch...
And you say Red Sox don't give respect.
The last time the cubs were in the World Series was 1945. They lost in 7 to the Tigers.
Learn your history there Jake...
Good point thought we were talking last year. I remember 2004 tough year. You probably remember 1946 since we are going back in time and all.
"Enos Slaughter is on first base with two away. Harry Walker at bat. Bob Klinger on the mound. He takes the stretch. Here's the pitch... there goes Slaughter. The ball is swung on, there's a line drive going into left-center field. It's in there for a base hit. Culberson fumbles the ball momentarily and Slaughter charges around second, heads for third. Pesky goes into short left field to take the relay from Culberson... And here comes Enos Slaughter rounding third! He's going to try for home! Here comes the throw and it is not in time! Slaughter scores!!"
The play would forever be known as "Slaughter's Mad Dash." St. Louis fans claimed it was the boldest baserunning feat in history. Red Sox fans blamed Johnny Pesky, claiming that he held onto the ball for a split second too long, and thus allowed the speedy Slaughter to score.
For his part, Slaughter summed up the play as follows:
"When the ball went into left-center, I hit second base and I said to myself, 'I can score.' I didn't know whether the ball had been cut off or not. I didn't know nothin'. It was a gutsy play. But, you know, two men out and the winning run, you can't let the grass grow under your feet."
The Ninth Inning
In the top of the ninth inning, Brecheen surrendered singles to the first two hitters, Rudy York and Bobby Doerr. But Boston's Pinky Higgins hit into a force out that moved pinch runner Paul Campbell to third. With one out, Boston's tying run was now just ninety feet from home plate.
Reserve catcher Roy Partee came up next, but he promptly popped out to Stan Musial, leaving the entire World Series up to pinch hitter Tom McBride. But the reserve outfielder hit a sharp grounder to Schoendienst at second base, who tossed the ball to shortstop Marty Marion for a game-ending force out.
Even I will admit my 1946 post was pretty lame...just trying to start some light hearted shit with Sox fans. The truth is the Redsox are a great organization and Theo is probably the best baseball mind in the game. I will admit my comments were over the top. Also I am guilty of trying to fire up the Rivalry between NYY and the Redsox.(As if thats needed.) The season series btwn these two are still my favorite games in all of sport. Good luck Redsox fans and am sorry if I offended anyone. I am probably still sore abt getting smoked in 04. So I will shut my .
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Quote Originally Posted by slimjim511:
lol..this guy is funny
Even I will admit my 1946 post was pretty lame...just trying to start some light hearted shit with Sox fans. The truth is the Redsox are a great organization and Theo is probably the best baseball mind in the game. I will admit my comments were over the top. Also I am guilty of trying to fire up the Rivalry between NYY and the Redsox.(As if thats needed.) The season series btwn these two are still my favorite games in all of sport. Good luck Redsox fans and am sorry if I offended anyone. I am probably still sore abt getting smoked in 04. So I will shut my .
We can take this one final step. Ask the question, "Who are the most knowledgeable baseball fans in the country". There is no doubt in my mind that St Louis and Boston are the two best baseball cities in the entire USA. Fans from St Louis and Boston can probably give you the exact starting line-up an hour before LaRussa and Francona release it. Yankees fans? Shit, they have no idea why Robinson Cano is sitting today's game against Scott Kazmir. St Louis and Boston fans recognize the critical points of the game. The successful sacrifice in a 9th inning tied game will get a standing ovation in St Louis. A late inning 12 pitch AB that finally draws a home team walk in Boston will do the same. Yankees fans? They haven't a clue and are more concerned with getting out of the parking lot before the rest of the crowd. St Louis and Boston are real baseball cities.
~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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Diamondjake:
We can take this one final step. Ask the question, "Who are the most knowledgeable baseball fans in the country". There is no doubt in my mind that St Louis and Boston are the two best baseball cities in the entire USA. Fans from St Louis and Boston can probably give you the exact starting line-up an hour before LaRussa and Francona release it. Yankees fans? Shit, they have no idea why Robinson Cano is sitting today's game against Scott Kazmir. St Louis and Boston fans recognize the critical points of the game. The successful sacrifice in a 9th inning tied game will get a standing ovation in St Louis. A late inning 12 pitch AB that finally draws a home team walk in Boston will do the same. Yankees fans? They haven't a clue and are more concerned with getting out of the parking lot before the rest of the crowd. St Louis and Boston are real baseball cities.
We can take this one final step. Ask the question, "Who are the most knowledgeable baseball fans in the country". There is no doubt in my mind that St Louis and Boston are the two best baseball cities in the entire USA. Fans from St Louis and Boston can probably give you the exact starting line-up an hour before LaRussa and Francona release it. Yankees fans? Shit, they have no idea why Robinson Cano is sitting today's game against Scott Kazmir. St Louis and Boston fans recognize the critical points of the game. The successful sacrifice in a 9th inning tied game will get a standing ovation in St Louis. A late inning 12 pitch AB that finally draws a home team walk in Boston will do the same. Yankees fans? They haven't a clue and are more concerned with getting out of the parking lot before the rest of the crowd. St Louis and Boston are real baseball cities.
fuck off man. Im from ny and have been to plenty of yankee games. Nobody rushes out early to beat traffic unless its like 12-0 and at that point you should. Even if some do, have you seen where the stadium is located? Yanks fans are very knowledgable. Im fairly certain they would know why cano was being benched against kazmir
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Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:
Diamondjake:
We can take this one final step. Ask the question, "Who are the most knowledgeable baseball fans in the country". There is no doubt in my mind that St Louis and Boston are the two best baseball cities in the entire USA. Fans from St Louis and Boston can probably give you the exact starting line-up an hour before LaRussa and Francona release it. Yankees fans? Shit, they have no idea why Robinson Cano is sitting today's game against Scott Kazmir. St Louis and Boston fans recognize the critical points of the game. The successful sacrifice in a 9th inning tied game will get a standing ovation in St Louis. A late inning 12 pitch AB that finally draws a home team walk in Boston will do the same. Yankees fans? They haven't a clue and are more concerned with getting out of the parking lot before the rest of the crowd. St Louis and Boston are real baseball cities.
fuck off man. Im from ny and have been to plenty of yankee games. Nobody rushes out early to beat traffic unless its like 12-0 and at that point you should. Even if some do, have you seen where the stadium is located? Yanks fans are very knowledgable. Im fairly certain they would know why cano was being benched against kazmir
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