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    Phillies vs Dodgers in NLCS who ya got?

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    Stuckey
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 12:17 AM ET #151

    Your argument has resulted to calling people person?

    What are you 14?
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    Your argument has resulted to calling people person?

    What are you 14?
     
    Skeet_Skeet
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 12:22 AM ET #152

    Paging STUCK-ey.  Question STUCK-ey, how does it feel to be H _ _ _?   Tell us loud and proud. 
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    Paging STUCK-ey.  Question STUCK-ey, how does it feel to be H _ _ _?   Tell us loud and proud. 
     
    Loso
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 11:49 AM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by Loso:



    THANK GOD the game is played on the field and not paper.

    Phillies (World Champions who know what it takes)

    Vs.

    Dodgers (Washed up pitchers-Padilla/Garland-and steroid users)

    /U STAY LOSING.


    Eat a dick skeet skeet.

    Stuckey, great display picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loso:



    THANK GOD the game is played on the field and not paper.

    Phillies (World Champions who know what it takes)

    Vs.

    Dodgers (Washed up pitchers-Padilla/Garland-and steroid users)

    /U STAY LOSING.


    Eat a dick skeet skeet.

    Stuckey, great display picture.
     
    Skeet_Skeet
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 1:36 PM ET #154

    Quote Originally Posted by Loso:



    Eat a dick skeet skeet.

    Stuckey, great display picture.


    Awww now isn't that cute Loso.  STUCK-ey I think Loso is hitting on you. You and STUCK-ey get a room. Better yet you two and Please Push should all get together and make a movie The Gay-Triangle. haha  Touch dicks and you three can all be friends, now that is what I call Gay Power, suck up guys....... suck it real good.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loso:



    Eat a dick skeet skeet.

    Stuckey, great display picture.


    Awww now isn't that cute Loso.  STUCK-ey I think Loso is hitting on you. You and STUCK-ey get a room. Better yet you two and Please Push should all get together and make a movie The Gay-Triangle. haha  Touch dicks and you three can all be friends, now that is what I call Gay Power, suck up guys....... suck it real good.   
     
    DOVJAK
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:08 PM ET #155

    phils in 5  bol to all
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    phils in 5  bol to all
     
    nolemonasses
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:19 PM ET #156

    HAHAHAA. I love sore LOSERS.

    Nice greasy mullet ethier.

    And Lidge getting the win IS absolutley hilarious stuckey.

    Also luv the chant: YOU DID STEROIDS! for dookie roll head ramirez.

    So glad to see LA SUFFER!!!! You deserve it with your weak ass home fans who couldn't care less that they had 2 home playoff games. Hopefully you took notes on how a REAL home crowd attends a game (in much worse weather no less) and how they cheer when an opposing player has 2 strikes on him with 2 outs.

    LA Fraudgers...

     

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    HAHAHAA. I love sore LOSERS.

    Nice greasy mullet ethier.

    And Lidge getting the win IS absolutley hilarious stuckey.

    Also luv the chant: YOU DID STEROIDS! for dookie roll head ramirez.

    So glad to see LA SUFFER!!!! You deserve it with your weak ass home fans who couldn't care less that they had 2 home playoff games. Hopefully you took notes on how a REAL home crowd attends a game (in much worse weather no less) and how they cheer when an opposing player has 2 strikes on him with 2 outs.

    LA Fraudgers...

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:42 PM ET #157

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    HAHAHAA. I love sore LOSERS.

    Nice greasy mullet ethier.

    And Lidge getting the win IS absolutley hilarious stuckey.

    Also luv the chant: YOU DID STEROIDS! for dookie roll head ramirez.

    So glad to see LA SUFFER!!!! You deserve it with your weak ass home fans who couldn't care less that they had 2 home playoff games. Hopefully you took notes on how a REAL home crowd attends a game (in much worse weather no less) and how they cheer when an opposing player has 2 strikes on him with 2 outs.

    LA Fraudgers...

     



    Well well all of sudden now that Philly is winning the sidebusters are showing up.  Another LA Dodger hater.  Nolemonasses u being from Pakistan talking about real home crowds? I'm sure your countries home crowds are great, probably launch rocket propelled grenades at opposing teams.  Do you even have a baseball team in Pakistan lol   What kind of sports do yall play anyway?  Tip the cow?  Be cool before we drop a bomb on your country hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    HAHAHAA. I love sore LOSERS.

    Nice greasy mullet ethier.

    And Lidge getting the win IS absolutley hilarious stuckey.

    Also luv the chant: YOU DID STEROIDS! for dookie roll head ramirez.

    So glad to see LA SUFFER!!!! You deserve it with your weak ass home fans who couldn't care less that they had 2 home playoff games. Hopefully you took notes on how a REAL home crowd attends a game (in much worse weather no less) and how they cheer when an opposing player has 2 strikes on him with 2 outs.

    LA Fraudgers...

     



    Well well all of sudden now that Philly is winning the sidebusters are showing up.  Another LA Dodger hater.  Nolemonasses u being from Pakistan talking about real home crowds? I'm sure your countries home crowds are great, probably launch rocket propelled grenades at opposing teams.  Do you even have a baseball team in Pakistan lol   What kind of sports do yall play anyway?  Tip the cow?  Be cool before we drop a bomb on your country hahaha
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:52 PM ET #158

    The Phils have too much heart for LA.Broxton was scared too death to throw a strike to Stairs for God's sakes.

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    The Phils have too much heart for LA.Broxton was scared too death to throw a strike to Stairs for God's sakes.

     
    Loso
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 3:24 PM ET #159

    Skeet, you should just STOP, you're making yourself look REALLY dumb.
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    Skeet, you should just STOP, you're making yourself look REALLY dumb.
     
    DaBone
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 3:32 PM ET #160

    My advice to Skeet is just to be quiet and take his medicine.  Sometimes your wrong my man.  Take it like a man and shh.... Nobody likes a sore loser. And by the way..  it has become evident that not only are you the biggest homer I have ever seen, you couldnt have been more WRONG about this series.  Enjoy your medicine.

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    My advice to Skeet is just to be quiet and take his medicine.  Sometimes your wrong my man.  Take it like a man and shh.... Nobody likes a sore loser. And by the way..  it has become evident that not only are you the biggest homer I have ever seen, you couldnt have been more WRONG about this series.  Enjoy your medicine.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 4:02 PM ET #161

    I would agree.  I really cannot stand homers and he is one of them.  I don't know how many times he would pop up during the course of the season this fall and post crap about how great LAD was.  Never fails every time the frickin Dodgers would fall apart.  I stopped even betting the Dodgers due to this guy.  Yeah, yeah I know he ha nothing to do with it, but still if you are not going to post something of value then don't post.  Instead they are mere biased homer views.  BOL with your LAD.
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    I would agree.  I really cannot stand homers and he is one of them.  I don't know how many times he would pop up during the course of the season this fall and post crap about how great LAD was.  Never fails every time the frickin Dodgers would fall apart.  I stopped even betting the Dodgers due to this guy.  Yeah, yeah I know he ha nothing to do with it, but still if you are not going to post something of value then don't post.  Instead they are mere biased homer views.  BOL with your LAD.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 4:20 PM ET #162

    Quote Originally Posted by Loso:

    Skeet, you should just STOP, you're making yourself look REALLY dumb.

    Some people just can't admit when they're wrong but atleast he's one of the few Dodgers backers that is still showing his face.....albeit with a foot inserted in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loso:

    Skeet, you should just STOP, you're making yourself look REALLY dumb.

    Some people just can't admit when they're wrong but atleast he's one of the few Dodgers backers that is still showing his face.....albeit with a foot inserted in it

     
    Stuckey
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 10:46 PM ET #163

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerPawsSC:



    It looks like I'm going to have to make someone look silly for the second straight week.

    People who don't know much about baseball should stop pretending that they do. I'd also like to hear a response from someone who doesn't a picture of a green bird or the location "Pennsylvania" in their avatar.

    Now, let's get to the facts.

    Starting pitching even is comical.

    I agree! The Dodgers' pitching outclasses the Philly pitching in pretty much every regard.

    Starting pitchers ERA:

    Dodgers: 3.58
    Phillies: 4.29

    And because ERA is a pretty incomplete stat, FIP for SP:

    Dodgers (3rd in baseball): 3.83
    Phillies (20th in baseball): 4.46

    Strikeouts/9 innings

    Dodgers: 7.54
    Phillies: 6.87

    Batting average against:

    Dodgers: .235
    Phillies: .273

    Swings outside of the strike zone induced:

    Dodgers: 26.9%
    Phillies: 24.5%

    Contact on outside swings:

    Dodgers: 62.5%
    Phillies: 65.4%

    So, as we see, the Dodgers pitching staff outclassed the Phillies pitching staff in a big way this year in a ton of different categories. Phillies play in a tough ballpark, obviously, but even the park-adjusted stats like the Dodgers' staff a ton more than the Phillies' staff.

    You say all we have is Lee.  You guys have nothing.

    I wouldn't say that Lee is all but that's pretty close to being right.

    Oh, and on to the other point.

    FIP:

    Clayton Kershaw: 3.08

    Cliff Lee: 3.11

    It's a wash.

    ERA

    Kershaw: 2.8

    Lee: 3.2

    Kershaw strikes out 50% more guys, Lee walks way less guys. Once again, it's a wash.

    These are two lefties who were, for all intents and purposes, exactly as effective this season. They did it in different ways, but according to FIP (Fielding independent pitching), they were the same amount of good.

    Hamels, our clear cut second, is better than any one of your starters and absolutely kills the Dodgers.

    No. He's not.

    Hamels FIP:

    3.72

    Clayton Kershaw FIP: 3.08, Billingsley FIP: 3.82, Wolf FIP: 3.96, Vicente Padilla FIP (in 7 starts): 3.40

    Hamels ERA:

    4.32

    Kershaw ERA: 2.8, Bills ERA: 4.03, Wolf ERA: 3.23, Padilla ERA: 3.20, Kuroda: 3.76

    Hamels GB %: 40.4

    Kuroda: 49.5%, Padilla: 46.7%, Billingsley: 45.3%, Kershaw: 39.4%, WolfL 39.6%

    I've given you 5 starters with an ERA lower than Hamels' ERA. I've given you guys with better FIP numbers. I've given you a laundry list of guys who get more ground balls.

    So, like I said, you're clearly wrong about Cole Hamels.

    Blanton, Pedro and Happ have been consistent all year.

    Inconsequential. They've been consistent enough to be a part of a starting rotation that ranks 20th out of 30 ML teams in FIP.

    You guys have ZERO consistency in your rotation.

    This doesn't even make sense. The Dodgers led the big leagues in ERA this year by like .3. They were a third of a run better than every other team in the majors.

    "Consistency"? I'll just take being good.

    Here you once again prove that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. If the Phillies were "consistent" in their pitching staff, it was "consistently" mediocre.

    You don't post the majors' lowest ERA (by a ton) without being consistently GOOD.

    Starting pitching: HUGE Phillies advantage

    ERA: Phillies: 4.29, Dodgers: 3.58
    FIP: Phillies: 4.46, Dodgers: 3.83

    I think we've proven that this is a blatant lie. If anything the Dodgers pitching is an advantage in this series.

    Starting lineup: COMICAL Phillies advantage

    wOBA:

    Phillies: .340
    Dodgers: .331

    OBP

    Phillies: .334
    Dodgers: .346

    The Phillies have the better offense...slightly. When you take into account park effects, it's pretty close. This is hardly what you'd call a "comical" advantage.

    Intangibles/Experience: Phillies advantage

    Leave it to someone who doesn't really know what they're talking about to think that intangibles play a role in who wins baseball games.

    Honestly, what the hell does this even mean?

    I also don't think the fact that Jimmy Rollins played in the World Series last year is going to have anything to do with how well he plays in the NLCS this year.

    Do you also believe in the Easter bunny? Santa Claus? Ferries? Dragons?

    Home field: Yes, you have it, but the Phils are the best road team in baseball

    True, until you consider that they were 35-13 against:

    Florida, Cincy, Mets, Pirates, Zona, San Diego, Toronto, and Washington.

    Sweet, they piled up a ton of road wins against the worst teams in the NL and an AL East bottom feeder.

    Phils in six.

    Fitting. When all evidence shows that the Dodgers are the better team overall here, choose the other side. It makes sense.

    The Dodgers win the most games in the NL in the toughest division in the NL. They've got better starting pitching AT THE TOP and top to bottom, they've got an offense that's only slightly worse, and they've got a bullpen that's markedly better...oh yeah, plus they get to play at home. But pick the Phillies. It makes about as much sense as betting your house on St. Louis, as some schlub wanted us to do last week.

    /I win.



    Loser!  Kershaw gets lit up again
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerPawsSC:



    It looks like I'm going to have to make someone look silly for the second straight week.

    People who don't know much about baseball should stop pretending that they do. I'd also like to hear a response from someone who doesn't a picture of a green bird or the location "Pennsylvania" in their avatar.

    Now, let's get to the facts.

    Starting pitching even is comical.

    I agree! The Dodgers' pitching outclasses the Philly pitching in pretty much every regard.

    Starting pitchers ERA:

    Dodgers: 3.58
    Phillies: 4.29

    And because ERA is a pretty incomplete stat, FIP for SP:

    Dodgers (3rd in baseball): 3.83
    Phillies (20th in baseball): 4.46

    Strikeouts/9 innings

    Dodgers: 7.54
    Phillies: 6.87

    Batting average against:

    Dodgers: .235
    Phillies: .273

    Swings outside of the strike zone induced:

    Dodgers: 26.9%
    Phillies: 24.5%

    Contact on outside swings:

    Dodgers: 62.5%
    Phillies: 65.4%

    So, as we see, the Dodgers pitching staff outclassed the Phillies pitching staff in a big way this year in a ton of different categories. Phillies play in a tough ballpark, obviously, but even the park-adjusted stats like the Dodgers' staff a ton more than the Phillies' staff.

    You say all we have is Lee.  You guys have nothing.

    I wouldn't say that Lee is all but that's pretty close to being right.

    Oh, and on to the other point.

    FIP:

    Clayton Kershaw: 3.08

    Cliff Lee: 3.11

    It's a wash.

    ERA

    Kershaw: 2.8

    Lee: 3.2

    Kershaw strikes out 50% more guys, Lee walks way less guys. Once again, it's a wash.

    These are two lefties who were, for all intents and purposes, exactly as effective this season. They did it in different ways, but according to FIP (Fielding independent pitching), they were the same amount of good.

    Hamels, our clear cut second, is better than any one of your starters and absolutely kills the Dodgers.

    No. He's not.

    Hamels FIP:

    3.72

    Clayton Kershaw FIP: 3.08, Billingsley FIP: 3.82, Wolf FIP: 3.96, Vicente Padilla FIP (in 7 starts): 3.40

    Hamels ERA:

    4.32

    Kershaw ERA: 2.8, Bills ERA: 4.03, Wolf ERA: 3.23, Padilla ERA: 3.20, Kuroda: 3.76

    Hamels GB %: 40.4

    Kuroda: 49.5%, Padilla: 46.7%, Billingsley: 45.3%, Kershaw: 39.4%, WolfL 39.6%

    I've given you 5 starters with an ERA lower than Hamels' ERA. I've given you guys with better FIP numbers. I've given you a laundry list of guys who get more ground balls.

    So, like I said, you're clearly wrong about Cole Hamels.

    Blanton, Pedro and Happ have been consistent all year.

    Inconsequential. They've been consistent enough to be a part of a starting rotation that ranks 20th out of 30 ML teams in FIP.

    You guys have ZERO consistency in your rotation.

    This doesn't even make sense. The Dodgers led the big leagues in ERA this year by like .3. They were a third of a run better than every other team in the majors.

    "Consistency"? I'll just take being good.

    Here you once again prove that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. If the Phillies were "consistent" in their pitching staff, it was "consistently" mediocre.

    You don't post the majors' lowest ERA (by a ton) without being consistently GOOD.

    Starting pitching: HUGE Phillies advantage

    ERA: Phillies: 4.29, Dodgers: 3.58
    FIP: Phillies: 4.46, Dodgers: 3.83

    I think we've proven that this is a blatant lie. If anything the Dodgers pitching is an advantage in this series.

    Starting lineup: COMICAL Phillies advantage

    wOBA:

    Phillies: .340
    Dodgers: .331

    OBP

    Phillies: .334
    Dodgers: .346

    The Phillies have the better offense...slightly. When you take into account park effects, it's pretty close. This is hardly what you'd call a "comical" advantage.

    Intangibles/Experience: Phillies advantage

    Leave it to someone who doesn't really know what they're talking about to think that intangibles play a role in who wins baseball games.

    Honestly, what the hell does this even mean?

    I also don't think the fact that Jimmy Rollins played in the World Series last year is going to have anything to do with how well he plays in the NLCS this year.

    Do you also believe in the Easter bunny? Santa Claus? Ferries? Dragons?

    Home field: Yes, you have it, but the Phils are the best road team in baseball

    True, until you consider that they were 35-13 against:

    Florida, Cincy, Mets, Pirates, Zona, San Diego, Toronto, and Washington.

    Sweet, they piled up a ton of road wins against the worst teams in the NL and an AL East bottom feeder.

    Phils in six.

    Fitting. When all evidence shows that the Dodgers are the better team overall here, choose the other side. It makes sense.

    The Dodgers win the most games in the NL in the toughest division in the NL. They've got better starting pitching AT THE TOP and top to bottom, they've got an offense that's only slightly worse, and they've got a bullpen that's markedly better...oh yeah, plus they get to play at home. But pick the Phillies. It makes about as much sense as betting your house on St. Louis, as some schlub wanted us to do last week.

    /I win.



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    Stuckey
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    Start watching baseball and stop memorizing sabermetrics. 
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    Start watching baseball and stop memorizing sabermetrics. 
     
    angelobruno
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 11:13 PM ET #165

     stucky are you as happy as i am right now???  i know you are
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     stucky are you as happy as i am right now???  i know you are
     
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    Blake is terrible,will swing and miss
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    Blake is terrible,will swing and miss
     
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    thats it typical dodgers,load em up and leave em there.yes
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    thats it typical dodgers,load em up and leave em there.yes
     
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    C'mon Baby. Finish him
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    C'mon Baby. Finish him
     
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    And he did!!!

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

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    And he did!!!

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 11:52 PM ET #171

    Thanks for the wild pitch that got me my huge win on live betting

    PHI -5 +155

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    Thanks for the wild pitch that got me my huge win on live betting

    PHI -5 +155

     
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    I win
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    I win
     
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    By the way, thanks Brad for not fucking this up
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    By the way, thanks Brad for not fucking this up
     
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    You've been holding that post on your desktop Stuckey?

    Congrats-

    (lived in Philly for 9 years) 87-95

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    You've been holding that post on your desktop Stuckey?

    Congrats-

    (lived in Philly for 9 years) 87-95

     
     
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