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    Phillies vs Dodgers in NLCS who ya got?

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    Skeet_Skeet
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 9:55 PM ET #1

    Huston Street blows saves back to back now the Phillies are headed to ghetto streets of LA for a NLCS rematch.  Who ya got?
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    Huston Street blows saves back to back now the Phillies are headed to ghetto streets of LA for a NLCS rematch.  Who ya got?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 9:56 PM ET #2

    It's hard to  go against the  phillies,  but I will take the  dodgers     
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    It's hard to  go against the  phillies,  but I will take the  dodgers     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 9:58 PM ET #3

    phillies all the way
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 10:00 PM ET #4

    Doyers


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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 10:23 PM ET #5

    Picking against the Phillies doesnt make a whole lot of sense.  The only advantage the Dodgers have is in the bullpen, but they have that edge on everyone.  The starting rotations are not close, the Phils lineup is much better, and they are the defending champs, and they destroyed the Dodgers in the NLCS last year.
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    Picking against the Phillies doesnt make a whole lot of sense.  The only advantage the Dodgers have is in the bullpen, but they have that edge on everyone.  The starting rotations are not close, the Phils lineup is much better, and they are the defending champs, and they destroyed the Dodgers in the NLCS last year.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 10:24 PM ET #6

    phillies
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 10:26 PM ET #7

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:00 PM ET #8

    Hey Zagsa the only advantage the Dodgers have is the bullpen and Phils dominate in everything else???  haha And they destroyed the Dodgers last year???  Nice reasoning buddy.

    Lets take a closer look and start with the starting rotation, Phils dominates LA pitching???  That is flawed in my opinion. Besides Lee there is no one dominating.  Hamels? Pedro? Blanton? lol  That is not what I call dominating. I been watching Happ this year and he has made me a lot of money but the way he pitched the relief and last night I don't know. Granted LA does not have an ace but our pitchers are solid with Wolf and Kershaw. Padilla was a suprise in game 3 against the Cardinals.  We also have Billingsly in the wings.

    Offense, the edge definitely to Phillies but I do like the fact that we picked up Belliard this year, not a great hitter statistically but the man is CLUTCH.

    Relief and bullepen you know where that edge goes to and this year and I love the fact we picked up Sherrill, however the Phils bullpen are but a skeleton of what they were last year.  When Charlie Manuel is sending in two starting pitchers Happ and Blanton to relief pitch in one game that tells you the confidence he has in the pen.  And the way Lidge closed out last nights game was

    Oh and did I forget to mention WE have home field advantage this year?  So lets do a quick recap.

    Starting Pitching: About Even
    Offense: Phillies
    Bullpen: LA
    Homefield Advantage: LA
    Skipper: LA

    Will be a good series but piece of advice don't bet the house on the Phillies Zagsa or you just might find yourself homeless in the streets of LA.


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    Hey Zagsa the only advantage the Dodgers have is the bullpen and Phils dominate in everything else???  haha And they destroyed the Dodgers last year???  Nice reasoning buddy.

    Lets take a closer look and start with the starting rotation, Phils dominates LA pitching???  That is flawed in my opinion. Besides Lee there is no one dominating.  Hamels? Pedro? Blanton? lol  That is not what I call dominating. I been watching Happ this year and he has made me a lot of money but the way he pitched the relief and last night I don't know. Granted LA does not have an ace but our pitchers are solid with Wolf and Kershaw. Padilla was a suprise in game 3 against the Cardinals.  We also have Billingsly in the wings.

    Offense, the edge definitely to Phillies but I do like the fact that we picked up Belliard this year, not a great hitter statistically but the man is CLUTCH.

    Relief and bullepen you know where that edge goes to and this year and I love the fact we picked up Sherrill, however the Phils bullpen are but a skeleton of what they were last year.  When Charlie Manuel is sending in two starting pitchers Happ and Blanton to relief pitch in one game that tells you the confidence he has in the pen.  And the way Lidge closed out last nights game was

    Oh and did I forget to mention WE have home field advantage this year?  So lets do a quick recap.

    Starting Pitching: About Even
    Offense: Phillies
    Bullpen: LA
    Homefield Advantage: LA
    Skipper: LA

    Will be a good series but piece of advice don't bet the house on the Phillies Zagsa or you just might find yourself homeless in the streets of LA.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:05 PM ET #9

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:13 PM ET #10

    Starting pitching even is comical.

    You say all we have is Lee.  You guys have nothing.

    Hamels, our clear cut second, is better than any one of your starters and absolutely kills the Dodgers.

    Blanton, Pedro and Happ have been consistent all year.

    You guys have ZERO consistency in your rotation.

    Starting pitching: HUGE Phillies advantage
    Starting lineup: COMICAL Phillies advantage
    Bullpen: BIG TIME Dodgers advantage
    Intangibles/Experience: Phillies advantage
    Home field: Yes, you have it, but the Phils are the best road team in baseball

    Phils in six.
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    Starting pitching even is comical.

    You say all we have is Lee.  You guys have nothing.

    Hamels, our clear cut second, is better than any one of your starters and absolutely kills the Dodgers.

    Blanton, Pedro and Happ have been consistent all year.

    You guys have ZERO consistency in your rotation.

    Starting pitching: HUGE Phillies advantage
    Starting lineup: COMICAL Phillies advantage
    Bullpen: BIG TIME Dodgers advantage
    Intangibles/Experience: Phillies advantage
    Home field: Yes, you have it, but the Phils are the best road team in baseball

    Phils in six.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #11

    And, I don't think there is such thing as a Dodgers home field advantage lmao.

    Citizens Bank....now thats a homefield advantage
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    And, I don't think there is such thing as a Dodgers home field advantage lmao.

    Citizens Bank....now thats a homefield advantage
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:38 PM ET #12

    phillies in 6, but did you expect anything else out of me or anyone from pennsylvania...   goodluck dodger fans, it should be entertaining... 
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    phillies in 6, but did you expect anything else out of me or anyone from pennsylvania...   goodluck dodger fans, it should be entertaining... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:53 PM ET #13

    Blue in 6.
     
    Hamels has been far from impressive. Wolf could go head to head with him.
     
    Lee is dominant...nothing around that...but Kershaw is pretty good in his own right.
     
    Wolf and Kershaw...2 lefties v the Phillies is a problem.
     
    As noted...big advantage for the Dodgers bullpen.
     
    Manny, Ethier, Kemp, Hudson, Blake, Furcal...thats not that bad of a lineup.
     
     
    And didn't the Cardinals have a "HUGE" starting pitching advantage over the Dodgers? I'm just saying.
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    Blue in 6.
     
    Hamels has been far from impressive. Wolf could go head to head with him.
     
    Lee is dominant...nothing around that...but Kershaw is pretty good in his own right.
     
    Wolf and Kershaw...2 lefties v the Phillies is a problem.
     
    As noted...big advantage for the Dodgers bullpen.
     
    Manny, Ethier, Kemp, Hudson, Blake, Furcal...thats not that bad of a lineup.
     
     
    And didn't the Cardinals have a "HUGE" starting pitching advantage over the Dodgers? I'm just saying.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2009 - 11:59 PM ET #14

    Lol Stuckey reading your remarks tells what an _ _ _ _ _  you are.  My answer was to what Zagsa said that Phillies DOMINATE LA pitching which is false and I gave my opinion. It's not like you have a Carpenter and Wainwright starting combo 1-2 punch..... but I bet u wish u did. And again genius, Lee is the only dominate pitcher in your staff, a true ace.  Your other starters as I've stated are not dominant.  Happ is good but who in your staff in the playoffs besides Lee has been dominant? Uh yeah.

    To your comment "You Guys Have Nothing" and "You guys have ZERO consistency in your rotation" is a boneheaded comment.  Check our starters pitching stats since the All Star break and in the playoffs. 

    Bonehead comment number #3 "Hamels, our clear cut second, is better than any one of your starters and absolutely kills the Dodgers" lol  Are you smoking something? I'm not even gonna respond to that one. 

    Perhaps that's why your name is Stuckey because still Stuck in 2008.  Flash Bulletin for Stuckey it's 2009

    Another comical remark "Intangibles/Experience: Phillies advantage"  you changed the wording from Skipper/Manager.  Why? Is it because you got experience from winning 1 championship last year?  Hmmm lets see our manager Torre has led teams over a decade without fail to the playoffs experience.  Manny Ramirez WS ringss (that's plural) with Boston, Belliard with 06' Cardinals shall I go on?

    Oh and by the way this just in Hamels is to start pitching Game 1 against Wolf     Welcome to the mean streets of LA.

    And Stuckey just say no to drugs and maybe you should go read a book and edu-ma-cate yourself. 

    To everyone else should be a good tough series and am excited.  I predict Dodgers in 7.


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    Lol Stuckey reading your remarks tells what an _ _ _ _ _  you are.  My answer was to what Zagsa said that Phillies DOMINATE LA pitching which is false and I gave my opinion. It's not like you have a Carpenter and Wainwright starting combo 1-2 punch..... but I bet u wish u did. And again genius, Lee is the only dominate pitcher in your staff, a true ace.  Your other starters as I've stated are not dominant.  Happ is good but who in your staff in the playoffs besides Lee has been dominant? Uh yeah.

    To your comment "You Guys Have Nothing" and "You guys have ZERO consistency in your rotation" is a boneheaded comment.  Check our starters pitching stats since the All Star break and in the playoffs. 

    Bonehead comment number #3 "Hamels, our clear cut second, is better than any one of your starters and absolutely kills the Dodgers" lol  Are you smoking something? I'm not even gonna respond to that one. 

    Perhaps that's why your name is Stuckey because still Stuck in 2008.  Flash Bulletin for Stuckey it's 2009

    Another comical remark "Intangibles/Experience: Phillies advantage"  you changed the wording from Skipper/Manager.  Why? Is it because you got experience from winning 1 championship last year?  Hmmm lets see our manager Torre has led teams over a decade without fail to the playoffs experience.  Manny Ramirez WS ringss (that's plural) with Boston, Belliard with 06' Cardinals shall I go on?

    Oh and by the way this just in Hamels is to start pitching Game 1 against Wolf     Welcome to the mean streets of LA.

    And Stuckey just say no to drugs and maybe you should go read a book and edu-ma-cate yourself. 

    To everyone else should be a good tough series and am excited.  I predict Dodgers in 7.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:03 AM ET #15

    Belliard's experience?  Wow, I'm petrified.  Our whole team has rings.


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    Belliard's experience?  Wow, I'm petrified.  Our whole team has rings.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:03 AM ET #16

    We smoked you last year without Lee.
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    We smoked you last year without Lee.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:09 AM ET #17

    "We smoked you last year without Lee" You just proved my point STUCKey. Enough said lol
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    "We smoked you last year without Lee" You just proved my point STUCKey. Enough said lol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:13 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Blue in 6.
     
    Hamels has been far from impressive. Wolf could go head to head with him.
     
    Lee is dominant...nothing around that...but Kershaw is pretty good in his own right.
     
    Wolf and Kershaw...2 lefties v the Phillies is a problem.
     
    As noted...big advantage for the Dodgers bullpen.
     
    Manny, Ethier, Kemp, Hudson, Blake, Furcal...thats not that bad of a lineup.
     
     
    And didn't the Cardinals have a "HUGE" starting pitching advantage over the Dodgers? I'm just saying.



    Stuck in Yankee Land?

    Utley is better against lefties (.288 compared to .279 vs righties)

    Werth KILLS lefties (.302 compared to .256)

    Ibanez is better against lefties (.285 compared to .267)

    Victorino smokes lefties (.314 vs .280)

    Ruiz is much better against lefties too (.293 to .242)

    5 of our 8 are better against lefties.  Also got Francisco in the Lee deal to bring pop off the bench against lefties in late game situations

    Howard struggles, but he is smoking everything right now.  He couldn't hit a lefty to save his life in the first half. 

    Rollins and Feliz are better against righties

    Just because Utley and Ibanez are lefties, doesn't mean they can't hit them.  In fact, theyre better against lefties.  Add that to two of the better hitters in the league against lefties (Vic and Werth) and I'd say that's not much of a problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Blue in 6.
     
    Hamels has been far from impressive. Wolf could go head to head with him.
     
    Lee is dominant...nothing around that...but Kershaw is pretty good in his own right.
     
    Wolf and Kershaw...2 lefties v the Phillies is a problem.
     
    As noted...big advantage for the Dodgers bullpen.
     
    Manny, Ethier, Kemp, Hudson, Blake, Furcal...thats not that bad of a lineup.
     
     
    And didn't the Cardinals have a "HUGE" starting pitching advantage over the Dodgers? I'm just saying.



    Stuck in Yankee Land?

    Utley is better against lefties (.288 compared to .279 vs righties)

    Werth KILLS lefties (.302 compared to .256)

    Ibanez is better against lefties (.285 compared to .267)

    Victorino smokes lefties (.314 vs .280)

    Ruiz is much better against lefties too (.293 to .242)

    5 of our 8 are better against lefties.  Also got Francisco in the Lee deal to bring pop off the bench against lefties in late game situations

    Howard struggles, but he is smoking everything right now.  He couldn't hit a lefty to save his life in the first half. 

    Rollins and Feliz are better against righties

    Just because Utley and Ibanez are lefties, doesn't mean they can't hit them.  In fact, theyre better against lefties.  Add that to two of the better hitters in the league against lefties (Vic and Werth) and I'd say that's not much of a problem.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:17 AM ET #19

    I like Dodgers in six:
     
    Reasons why:
     
    1. Starting pitching is in Dodgers favor and bullpen has been dominant. Padilla,garland and billingsley are solid and can eat innings to get to bullpen. Happ is very green and though he pitched well overall this season he did look good at all last night.
    2. Hitting - Yeah we all know phillies can hit and steal some bases. But they can't hit for average and can be shut down when pitchers can hit their spots. Also the phillies don't hit as well against left handers as righties. Could be big advantage Dodgers with 2 top lefties.
    3. Bench - I think this gets left out of the equation quite a bit but the dodgers have 3 decent players off the bench in pierre, thome and hudson. Stairs is good , but dobbs is awful.
    4. Manager - Torre over manuel -
     
    Will Manny hit like he did in the first of the year? If he does no doubt Dodgers win however, if he doesn't phils can win this.
     
    Dodgers in six -
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    I like Dodgers in six:
     
    Reasons why:
     
    1. Starting pitching is in Dodgers favor and bullpen has been dominant. Padilla,garland and billingsley are solid and can eat innings to get to bullpen. Happ is very green and though he pitched well overall this season he did look good at all last night.
    2. Hitting - Yeah we all know phillies can hit and steal some bases. But they can't hit for average and can be shut down when pitchers can hit their spots. Also the phillies don't hit as well against left handers as righties. Could be big advantage Dodgers with 2 top lefties.
    3. Bench - I think this gets left out of the equation quite a bit but the dodgers have 3 decent players off the bench in pierre, thome and hudson. Stairs is good , but dobbs is awful.
    4. Manager - Torre over manuel -
     
    Will Manny hit like he did in the first of the year? If he does no doubt Dodgers win however, if he doesn't phils can win this.
     
    Dodgers in six -
     
    rzagza
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:17 AM ET #20

    The Dodgers are trotting out Phils REJECTS Randy Wolf and Vicente Padilla has 2 of their top 3 starters.  These guys couldnt even stick with the Phillies when the Phils sucked.  Then Wolf couldnt stick with the Padres.  Or the Astros.  Then Padilla gets dumped by the pitching starved Rangers.

    There is no way the magic ride is gonna continue for those guys.  Wolf was brutal in his one start and will be lucky to see the 5th inning.  I have no idea how Padilla is doing it right now but let's see how he does vs all the Phils lefties: Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Ibanez.
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    The Dodgers are trotting out Phils REJECTS Randy Wolf and Vicente Padilla has 2 of their top 3 starters.  These guys couldnt even stick with the Phillies when the Phils sucked.  Then Wolf couldnt stick with the Padres.  Or the Astros.  Then Padilla gets dumped by the pitching starved Rangers.

    There is no way the magic ride is gonna continue for those guys.  Wolf was brutal in his one start and will be lucky to see the 5th inning.  I have no idea how Padilla is doing it right now but let's see how he does vs all the Phils lefties: Rollins, Victorino, Utley, Howard, Ibanez.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:18 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeet_Skeet:

    Lol Stuckey reading your remarks tells what an homer  you are.  My answer was to what Zagsa said that Phillies DOMINATE LA pitching which is false and I gave my opinion. It's not like you have a Carpenter and Wainwright starting combo 1-2 punch..... but I bet u wish u did. And again genius, Lee is the only dominate pitcher in your staff, a true ace.  Your other starters as I've stated are not dominant.  Happ is good but who in your staff in the playoffs besides Lee has been dominant? Uh yeah.



    I filled in the blank.   I can't talk because I am too...just pointing that out. However...I give credit where credit is due.

     

    Dodgers didn't have Kershaw in the postseason rotation last season.

    Dodgers didn't have Wolf last season.

    Phillies bullpen was much better than the Dodgers' last season. That has now changed.

    Kershaw can go head to head with Lee any day of the week. And, being a lefty, will probably dominate that lineup.

    Like I mentioned...Wolf(as a lefty) will probably face off against Hamels(who has been garbage). and the advantage, with the Dodgers at home, will obviously go to the Dodgers.

    Padilla has pitched well as a Dodger. Do the Phillies even know who they're starting Games 3 and 4?

     

    Dodgers shall win this series because the Phillies are not better than they are. At the worst...it's evenly matched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeet_Skeet:

    Lol Stuckey reading your remarks tells what an homer  you are.  My answer was to what Zagsa said that Phillies DOMINATE LA pitching which is false and I gave my opinion. It's not like you have a Carpenter and Wainwright starting combo 1-2 punch..... but I bet u wish u did. And again genius, Lee is the only dominate pitcher in your staff, a true ace.  Your other starters as I've stated are not dominant.  Happ is good but who in your staff in the playoffs besides Lee has been dominant? Uh yeah.



    I filled in the blank.   I can't talk because I am too...just pointing that out. However...I give credit where credit is due.

     

    Dodgers didn't have Kershaw in the postseason rotation last season.

    Dodgers didn't have Wolf last season.

    Phillies bullpen was much better than the Dodgers' last season. That has now changed.

    Kershaw can go head to head with Lee any day of the week. And, being a lefty, will probably dominate that lineup.

    Like I mentioned...Wolf(as a lefty) will probably face off against Hamels(who has been garbage). and the advantage, with the Dodgers at home, will obviously go to the Dodgers.

    Padilla has pitched well as a Dodger. Do the Phillies even know who they're starting Games 3 and 4?

     

    Dodgers shall win this series because the Phillies are not better than they are. At the worst...it's evenly matched.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:21 AM ET #22

    And, living in 2008?  You really are clueless.

    Hamels has two starts against the Dodgers in 2009

    LAD MAY 14th: 7 IP 1 ER 9 K 1 BB ND

    AT LAD JUNE 4TH:  CG SHUTOUT WIN 3-0 5 K 0 BB

    ON THE YEAR (2009): 2 GS 1-0 .56 ERA .81 WHIP 14 K 1 BB

    And, I won't even get into last years splits



    Wolf pitched against us twice this year and his ERA is 5.23.  He looked awful in his last start.  Wasn't even sniffing the strike zone.  Disaster against the patient Phils lineup.


    Good night


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    And, living in 2008?  You really are clueless.

    Hamels has two starts against the Dodgers in 2009

    LAD MAY 14th: 7 IP 1 ER 9 K 1 BB ND

    AT LAD JUNE 4TH:  CG SHUTOUT WIN 3-0 5 K 0 BB

    ON THE YEAR (2009): 2 GS 1-0 .56 ERA .81 WHIP 14 K 1 BB

    And, I won't even get into last years splits



    Wolf pitched against us twice this year and his ERA is 5.23.  He looked awful in his last start.  Wasn't even sniffing the strike zone.  Disaster against the patient Phils lineup.


    Good night


     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:21 AM ET #23

    Hey Sparky your Yankees are looking good and with A-Rod finally breaking out in the postseason not like in the past.  A lot changing this year, Angels finally beating Boston.  Worried to see your team if they make the WS as it's hard to keep your homerun happy offense in check haha  Your starting pitching looked good too in the first series.  At least if Angels win home field advantage is negated but wow the TV ratings would be off the hook in a Dodgers vs Yanks series.

    T-Dog, Psantana, Mac 

    Angel and Phillyfan may the best team win, either way will be a good series!
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    Hey Sparky your Yankees are looking good and with A-Rod finally breaking out in the postseason not like in the past.  A lot changing this year, Angels finally beating Boston.  Worried to see your team if they make the WS as it's hard to keep your homerun happy offense in check haha  Your starting pitching looked good too in the first series.  At least if Angels win home field advantage is negated but wow the TV ratings would be off the hook in a Dodgers vs Yanks series.

    T-Dog, Psantana, Mac 

    Angel and Phillyfan may the best team win, either way will be a good series!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:22 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by scuzzy:

    I like Dodgers in six:
     
    Reasons why:
     
    1. Starting pitching is in Dodgers favor and bullpen has been dominant. Padilla,garland and billingsley are solid and can eat innings to get to bullpen. Happ is very green and though he pitched well overall this season he did look good at all last night.
    2. Hitting - Yeah we all know phillies can hit and steal some bases. But they can't hit for average and can be shut down when pitchers can hit their spots. Also the phillies don't hit as well against left handers as righties. Could be big advantage Dodgers with 2 top lefties.
    3. Bench - I think this gets left out of the equation quite a bit but the dodgers have 3 decent players off the bench in pierre, thome and hudson. Stairs is good , but dobbs is awful.
    4. Manager - Torre over manuel -
     
    Will Manny hit like he did in the first of the year? If he does no doubt Dodgers win however, if he doesn't phils can win this.
     
    Dodgers in six -


    Garland and Billingsley are solid?  Since WHEN?  The DBacks dumped Garland like a piece of trash and Billingsley has been a trainwreck in the last month.  I'm sure they suffice against the stinkin Padres and Giants' putrid offenses.  This aint the Padres or Giants.  Not even close.

    Torre over Manuel?  Just like last season?

    You are reaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scuzzy:

    I like Dodgers in six:
     
    Reasons why:
     
    1. Starting pitching is in Dodgers favor and bullpen has been dominant. Padilla,garland and billingsley are solid and can eat innings to get to bullpen. Happ is very green and though he pitched well overall this season he did look good at all last night.
    2. Hitting - Yeah we all know phillies can hit and steal some bases. But they can't hit for average and can be shut down when pitchers can hit their spots. Also the phillies don't hit as well against left handers as righties. Could be big advantage Dodgers with 2 top lefties.
    3. Bench - I think this gets left out of the equation quite a bit but the dodgers have 3 decent players off the bench in pierre, thome and hudson. Stairs is good , but dobbs is awful.
    4. Manager - Torre over manuel -
     
    Will Manny hit like he did in the first of the year? If he does no doubt Dodgers win however, if he doesn't phils can win this.
     
    Dodgers in six -


    Garland and Billingsley are solid?  Since WHEN?  The DBacks dumped Garland like a piece of trash and Billingsley has been a trainwreck in the last month.  I'm sure they suffice against the stinkin Padres and Giants' putrid offenses.  This aint the Padres or Giants.  Not even close.

    Torre over Manuel?  Just like last season?

    You are reaching.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2009 - 12:22 AM ET #25

    Stuckey -
     
    I agree with your stats however you forgot to include the HR totals aginst LHP vs. RHP
     
    68 vs 156 whcih equates to 30% of total not good when you  depend on HR to manufactuer your runs. Since the Phils can't hit for average overall .258 for the year 10th in the league might be a small issue.
     
     
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    Stuckey -
     
    I agree with your stats however you forgot to include the HR totals aginst LHP vs. RHP
     
    68 vs 156 whcih equates to 30% of total not good when you  depend on HR to manufactuer your runs. Since the Phils can't hit for average overall .258 for the year 10th in the league might be a small issue.
     
     
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