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    How you can tell a Straight game from a Vegas trap game?

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    14allall41
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 4:20 AM ET #1

    Lately me, and not only me - stumbled on a very strange Totals lines as well as the Side (but not as much) - released by Vegas. First I thought that the person who was pointing out at the lines calling them a trap and taking impossible outcome pick - was nuts. But after it hit, and then another one did - I became absolutely curious about it. Do you share my feeling about it and if so - which games in last 10 days qualify for that? If we find a pattern - we might first save money avoiding those traps and even make some playing with Vegas. 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Lately me, and not only me - stumbled on a very strange Totals lines as well as the Side (but not as much) - released by Vegas. First I thought that the person who was pointing out at the lines calling them a trap and taking impossible outcome pick - was nuts. But after it hit, and then another one did - I became absolutely curious about it. Do you share my feeling about it and if so - which games in last 10 days qualify for that? If we find a pattern - we might first save money avoiding those traps and even make some playing with Vegas. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 5:22 AM ET #2

    There is not even a day that there aren't any trap games. Yesterday, for example - almost the whole ticket was a trap. Smart capper thou - knows how to cash on it better than a chalk eaters - like Mick960.
    I see you learned your lesson son and today picked less chalky games. 
    No offense 14allall41, but this jumping Irish gets on my nerves.
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    There is not even a day that there aren't any trap games. Yesterday, for example - almost the whole ticket was a trap. Smart capper thou - knows how to cash on it better than a chalk eaters - like Mick960.
    I see you learned your lesson son and today picked less chalky games. 
    No offense 14allall41, but this jumping Irish gets on my nerves.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 5:27 AM ET #3

    Every Sunday night game, go opposite of the play. The Mets game was the perfect trap for the Braves chasers. I was very interested in this game, and picked the Mets in a pick'em thing I do for fun. But I didn't lay the first unit on this game. Sunday night always reeks of trap.
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    Every Sunday night game, go opposite of the play. The Mets game was the perfect trap for the Braves chasers. I was very interested in this game, and picked the Mets in a pick'em thing I do for fun. But I didn't lay the first unit on this game. Sunday night always reeks of trap.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 6:22 AM ET #4

    The line isn't juiced for a heavy public fav. Example: Braves on Sunday, was +100 (?? not sure what line was, but it was a good line). anyways, everyone thinks Braves are the better team, the public will bite, even at -130 (can compare from past lines) and the books don't move it all day, even though public is pounding it.

    there was a capper, hitterno24, most his play were trap game plays, and I don't think he's had a losing year. I haven't seen him post this year.

    It doesn't always work. I'd say it work 66% of the time, enough to squeak out a profit by the end of the season.
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    The line isn't juiced for a heavy public fav. Example: Braves on Sunday, was +100 (?? not sure what line was, but it was a good line). anyways, everyone thinks Braves are the better team, the public will bite, even at -130 (can compare from past lines) and the books don't move it all day, even though public is pounding it.

    there was a capper, hitterno24, most his play were trap game plays, and I don't think he's had a losing year. I haven't seen him post this year.

    It doesn't always work. I'd say it work 66% of the time, enough to squeak out a profit by the end of the season.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 10:02 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by whitewedding:

    Every day there is a commission called LVSC and they are the ones who consult the books about the lines and odds. Why they and not someone else? Because they're closely connected as with the pro sports governing bodies as MLB, NBA, NFL , NHL WNBA etc and the books. Since the Pro sports bodies have one goal only - making more profit every year and they know that without sports betting the interest in games will be lower - they cooperate closely with books through LVSC. So, the games are seaprated ona daily bases between the "let it go as it such is" (LIGASIS) and "special treatment" (ST). The weight of ST can never succeed over 25%. Both sides win: the Books know which games to entrtapment and the PSGB (Pro Sports Governing Bodies) create an extra interest, rating and thus revenues from advertising, merchandising etc. 
    If you have any doubt in what I say - you probably believe in fairy tales and in Santa as well.  

    Very bold statement Billy Idol! If what you're saying here is true... mamma mia... I would move overseas if I were you... But I guess Madagascar is Overseas already 
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitewedding:

    Every day there is a commission called LVSC and they are the ones who consult the books about the lines and odds. Why they and not someone else? Because they're closely connected as with the pro sports governing bodies as MLB, NBA, NFL , NHL WNBA etc and the books. Since the Pro sports bodies have one goal only - making more profit every year and they know that without sports betting the interest in games will be lower - they cooperate closely with books through LVSC. So, the games are seaprated ona daily bases between the "let it go as it such is" (LIGASIS) and "special treatment" (ST). The weight of ST can never succeed over 25%. Both sides win: the Books know which games to entrtapment and the PSGB (Pro Sports Governing Bodies) create an extra interest, rating and thus revenues from advertising, merchandising etc. 
    If you have any doubt in what I say - you probably believe in fairy tales and in Santa as well.  

    Very bold statement Billy Idol! If what you're saying here is true... mamma mia... I would move overseas if I were you... But I guess Madagascar is Overseas already 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 10:12 AM ET #6

    keep it coming peoples, keep it coming. I really would like to have an intelligent discussion on this subject as what WHITEWEDDING said is very disturbing....
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    keep it coming peoples, keep it coming. I really would like to have an intelligent discussion on this subject as what WHITEWEDDING said is very disturbing....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 10:23 AM ET #7

    Starting with NCAA basketball last season, I've tried paying particular attention to "shady lines".  The lines that just don't add up and look too easy.  I've noticed the same trend in baseball.  From what I can tell, roughly 2 out of 3 shady lines are traps.  So most of the time if it looks too easy, it is. 

    Odds-makers know they can't make EVERY shady line cash in their direction however.  It would be too easy of a pattern for us to pick up on and just bet against it.  They don't want to condition us to correctly avoid the trap.  So they're smart..after raping the public on a couple shady lines, they'll throw a gift back out to the public...a line that looks too easy but it really is just an easy play.  They minimize their losses on these gifts because they know the psyche of a gambler...after getting burned on a couple shady lines the gambling public will hesitate to take the bait again.  And then when the easy pick hits, J.Q. gambler has a sigh of relief and says to himself "see, I do know what I'm doing.  I just got unlucky in those other losses".  And he'll line up at the ticket window to step on the next land mine.

    Telling the real traps from what I call the fake traps isn't easy.  In general though if you've noticed the public getting killed on a couple shady lines in a row, go ahead and bet the next play that looks too easy because it's likely the gift back to the public.  And if that easy play hits, go ahead and go opposite of the easy play the next time or two.  I made a nice profit in college hoops last season doing this.  I wasn't always right and you can definitely over-think things, but I enjoy a challenge and have fun trying to figure them out 

    Good luck
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    Starting with NCAA basketball last season, I've tried paying particular attention to "shady lines".  The lines that just don't add up and look too easy.  I've noticed the same trend in baseball.  From what I can tell, roughly 2 out of 3 shady lines are traps.  So most of the time if it looks too easy, it is. 

    Odds-makers know they can't make EVERY shady line cash in their direction however.  It would be too easy of a pattern for us to pick up on and just bet against it.  They don't want to condition us to correctly avoid the trap.  So they're smart..after raping the public on a couple shady lines, they'll throw a gift back out to the public...a line that looks too easy but it really is just an easy play.  They minimize their losses on these gifts because they know the psyche of a gambler...after getting burned on a couple shady lines the gambling public will hesitate to take the bait again.  And then when the easy pick hits, J.Q. gambler has a sigh of relief and says to himself "see, I do know what I'm doing.  I just got unlucky in those other losses".  And he'll line up at the ticket window to step on the next land mine.

    Telling the real traps from what I call the fake traps isn't easy.  In general though if you've noticed the public getting killed on a couple shady lines in a row, go ahead and bet the next play that looks too easy because it's likely the gift back to the public.  And if that easy play hits, go ahead and go opposite of the easy play the next time or two.  I made a nice profit in college hoops last season doing this.  I wasn't always right and you can definitely over-think things, but I enjoy a challenge and have fun trying to figure them out 

    Good luck
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 10:29 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Pasteur:

    Starting with NCAA basketball last season, I've tried paying particular attention to "shady lines".  The lines that just don't add up and look too easy.  I've noticed the same trend in baseball.  From what I can tell, roughly 2 out of 3 shady lines are traps.  So most of the time if it looks too easy, it is. 

    Odds-makers know they can't make EVERY shady line cash in their direction however.  It would be too easy of a pattern for us to pick up on and just bet against it.  They don't want to condition us to correctly avoid the trap.  So they're smart..after raping the public on a couple shady lines, they'll throw a gift back out to the public...a line that looks too easy but it really is just an easy play.  They minimize their losses on these gifts because they know the psyche of a gambler...after getting burned on a couple shady lines the gambling public will hesitate to take the bait again.  And then when the easy pick hits, J.Q. gambler has a sigh of relief and says to himself "see, I do know what I'm doing.  I just got unlucky in those other losses".  And he'll line up at the ticket window to step on the next land mine.

    Telling the real traps from what I call the fake traps isn't easy.  In general though if you've noticed the public getting killed on a couple shady lines in a row, go ahead and bet the next play that looks too easy because it's likely the gift back to the public.  And if that easy play hits, go ahead and go opposite of the easy play the next time or two.  I made a nice profit in college hoops last season doing this.  I wasn't always right and you can definitely over-think things, but I enjoy a challenge and have fun trying to figure them out 

    Good luck

    Now, that's an amazing observation and analysis. Thanks man. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pasteur:

    Starting with NCAA basketball last season, I've tried paying particular attention to "shady lines".  The lines that just don't add up and look too easy.  I've noticed the same trend in baseball.  From what I can tell, roughly 2 out of 3 shady lines are traps.  So most of the time if it looks too easy, it is. 

    Odds-makers know they can't make EVERY shady line cash in their direction however.  It would be too easy of a pattern for us to pick up on and just bet against it.  They don't want to condition us to correctly avoid the trap.  So they're smart..after raping the public on a couple shady lines, they'll throw a gift back out to the public...a line that looks too easy but it really is just an easy play.  They minimize their losses on these gifts because they know the psyche of a gambler...after getting burned on a couple shady lines the gambling public will hesitate to take the bait again.  And then when the easy pick hits, J.Q. gambler has a sigh of relief and says to himself "see, I do know what I'm doing.  I just got unlucky in those other losses".  And he'll line up at the ticket window to step on the next land mine.

    Telling the real traps from what I call the fake traps isn't easy.  In general though if you've noticed the public getting killed on a couple shady lines in a row, go ahead and bet the next play that looks too easy because it's likely the gift back to the public.  And if that easy play hits, go ahead and go opposite of the easy play the next time or two.  I made a nice profit in college hoops last season doing this.  I wasn't always right and you can definitely over-think things, but I enjoy a challenge and have fun trying to figure them out 

    Good luck

    Now, that's an amazing observation and analysis. Thanks man. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 10:40 AM ET #9

    One other thing..if it's going to be a game that draws heavy action, like a nationally televised Sunday night game, and the line looks too easy, go the opposite way.  Out of the last 4 Sunday night games, the public lost 3 of them.  The only one the public won was August 5th when the Cardinals beat the Brewers, and the line was juiced enough to get some action on the Brewers.

    But when I saw the line for the Braves/Mets game a couple nights ago, I pounded the Mets and didn't think twice about it, especially after the public won the previous Sunday night game.  
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    One other thing..if it's going to be a game that draws heavy action, like a nationally televised Sunday night game, and the line looks too easy, go the opposite way.  Out of the last 4 Sunday night games, the public lost 3 of them.  The only one the public won was August 5th when the Cardinals beat the Brewers, and the line was juiced enough to get some action on the Brewers.

    But when I saw the line for the Braves/Mets game a couple nights ago, I pounded the Mets and didn't think twice about it, especially after the public won the previous Sunday night game.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 10:44 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by kinggeorge27:

    Every Sunday night game, go opposite of the play. The Mets game was the perfect trap for the Braves chasers. I was very interested in this game, and picked the Mets in a pick'em thing I do for fun. But I didn't lay the first unit on this game. Sunday night always reeks of trap.

    King George is absolutely right, i've been doing the same thing. I've been taking the less sensible pick every sunday night and think it has hit like 12 of 14 times for me. Sheets on fire vs a shitty mets team, but the mets win. Kuroda on fire vs queen felix doubront and the sox win...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kinggeorge27:

    Every Sunday night game, go opposite of the play. The Mets game was the perfect trap for the Braves chasers. I was very interested in this game, and picked the Mets in a pick'em thing I do for fun. But I didn't lay the first unit on this game. Sunday night always reeks of trap.

    King George is absolutely right, i've been doing the same thing. I've been taking the less sensible pick every sunday night and think it has hit like 12 of 14 times for me. Sheets on fire vs a shitty mets team, but the mets win. Kuroda on fire vs queen felix doubront and the sox win...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 10:49 AM ET #11

    i think some of you guys are exaggerating or overanalyzing there simply aren't enough consistent bettors for vegas and lvsc to put out shady lines for baseball season

    nfl is another story, its loaded with shady lines and public entrapments
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    i think some of you guys are exaggerating or overanalyzing there simply aren't enough consistent bettors for vegas and lvsc to put out shady lines for baseball season

    nfl is another story, its loaded with shady lines and public entrapments
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 11:58 AM ET #12

    I suggest we start running a notebook on that in this thread starting today with the NYM@CIN as it is a a nationally televised game and second most popular game betwise. It is on ESPN here in Vienna so I assume it is a central game of today. CIN is a huge favorite.
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    I suggest we start running a notebook on that in this thread starting today with the NYM@CIN as it is a a nationally televised game and second most popular game betwise. It is on ESPN here in Vienna so I assume it is a central game of today. CIN is a huge favorite.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 12:00 PM ET #13

     It's a trap
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     It's a trap
     
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    straight games:  they're straight alright.
    trap games: nonsense

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    straight games:  they're straight alright.
    trap games: nonsense

     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 12:10 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by KktdocT:

    straight games:  they're straight alright.
    trap games: nonsense


    You're saying everything is straight and there are no trap games??? Ohohoh.... How old are you? Until what time are you allowed to use your computer? WAKE UP.  Those are PROFESSIONAL SPORTS!  Also there no fixes, point shaving, wise guys or any criminal activities, white collar or not to get your money using your weaknesses for gambling... Get outta here you dummy
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    Quote Originally Posted by KktdocT:

    straight games:  they're straight alright.
    trap games: nonsense


    You're saying everything is straight and there are no trap games??? Ohohoh.... How old are you? Until what time are you allowed to use your computer? WAKE UP.  Those are PROFESSIONAL SPORTS!  Also there no fixes, point shaving, wise guys or any criminal activities, white collar or not to get your money using your weaknesses for gambling... Get outta here you dummy
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tahrir2011:


    You're saying everything is straight and there are no trap games??? Ohohoh.... How old are you? Until what time are you allowed to use your computer? WAKE UP.  Those are PROFESSIONAL SPORTS!  Also there no fixes, point shaving, wise guys or any criminal activities, white collar or not to get your money using your weaknesses for gambling... Get outta here you dummy

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    i admit defeat, you win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tahrir2011:


    You're saying everything is straight and there are no trap games??? Ohohoh.... How old are you? Until what time are you allowed to use your computer? WAKE UP.  Those are PROFESSIONAL SPORTS!  Also there no fixes, point shaving, wise guys or any criminal activities, white collar or not to get your money using your weaknesses for gambling... Get outta here you dummy

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    i admit defeat, you win.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 12:15 PM ET #17

    The surrest way to identify a so-called "trap line" is to create your own line.....

    compare the two and bet when there is +EV

    ....pretty simple, actually

     

     

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    The surrest way to identify a so-called "trap line" is to create your own line.....

    compare the two and bet when there is +EV

    ....pretty simple, actually

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 12:48 PM ET #18

    The trap lines have nothing to do with the LVSC or shady mobsters making back door deals. Its a matter of PERCEPTION people and the statistics behind it all. Our perception as observers of the game tell us ATL and the red-hot Ben Sheets should crush a lowly and struggling Mets team. You can thank ESPN and social media for that folks. Moving on, if you had done your research properly, whether it be historical situations, trends, market data, or just hard cold facts, you would've viewed this game as a toss up. By Golly, the Mets won by 1 run, huh? I am not saying that you can't use these "trap lines" to analyze and ultimately help your own cause as a sports bettor, but enough with the conspiracies. Vegas wins no matter what. They create a product and we consume it.
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    The trap lines have nothing to do with the LVSC or shady mobsters making back door deals. Its a matter of PERCEPTION people and the statistics behind it all. Our perception as observers of the game tell us ATL and the red-hot Ben Sheets should crush a lowly and struggling Mets team. You can thank ESPN and social media for that folks. Moving on, if you had done your research properly, whether it be historical situations, trends, market data, or just hard cold facts, you would've viewed this game as a toss up. By Golly, the Mets won by 1 run, huh? I am not saying that you can't use these "trap lines" to analyze and ultimately help your own cause as a sports bettor, but enough with the conspiracies. Vegas wins no matter what. They create a product and we consume it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreaminPain:

    The surrest way to identify a so-called "trap line" is to create your own line.....

    compare the two and bet when there is +EV

    ....pretty simple, actually

      

    How dare you bring logic into this thread.  


    Really, people, if there was anything to this, someone would have invented a way to exploit a LONG time ago.  Seen many, many "fade the public" losers come and go on this forum.  None of them ever stick around long because it just doesn't work.  

    When will people ever come to terms that there are no short cuts.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreaminPain:

    The surrest way to identify a so-called "trap line" is to create your own line.....

    compare the two and bet when there is +EV

    ....pretty simple, actually

      

    How dare you bring logic into this thread.  


    Really, people, if there was anything to this, someone would have invented a way to exploit a LONG time ago.  Seen many, many "fade the public" losers come and go on this forum.  None of them ever stick around long because it just doesn't work.  

    When will people ever come to terms that there are no short cuts.  

     
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    One other thing..if it's going to be a game that draws heavy action, like a nationally televised Sunday night game, and the line looks too easy, go the opposite way.  
    ________________

    Blows me away.  So if you could get +200 on Texas tonight, you'd turn that down because it "looks too easy?"

    Where do these people come from?  
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    One other thing..if it's going to be a game that draws heavy action, like a nationally televised Sunday night game, and the line looks too easy, go the opposite way.  
    ________________

    Blows me away.  So if you could get +200 on Texas tonight, you'd turn that down because it "looks too easy?"

    Where do these people come from?  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    How dare you bring logic into this thread.  


    Really, people, if there was anything to this, someone would have invented a way to exploit a LONG time ago.  Seen many, many "fade the public" losers come and go on this forum.  None of them ever stick around long because it just doesn't work.  

    When will people ever come to terms that there are no short cuts.  

     With all due respect, there is no connection between the statement you'tr so eager to make about how smarter and more knowledgable than many of us you are - your highness - and between the subject of my thread. Read before you react. Read good. I didn't create this thread as a fade the public thread as you so anxious to prove. This thread is about finding a high probability tool to recognize TRAP LINE when it comes along and the only trap line I recognized among the comments examples is the Under on SF vs COL as someone has stated rightly so. 
    Comprehension of a material you read should be a priority before your desire to get a smart ass reaction
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    How dare you bring logic into this thread.  


    Really, people, if there was anything to this, someone would have invented a way to exploit a LONG time ago.  Seen many, many "fade the public" losers come and go on this forum.  None of them ever stick around long because it just doesn't work.  

    When will people ever come to terms that there are no short cuts.  

     With all due respect, there is no connection between the statement you'tr so eager to make about how smarter and more knowledgable than many of us you are - your highness - and between the subject of my thread. Read before you react. Read good. I didn't create this thread as a fade the public thread as you so anxious to prove. This thread is about finding a high probability tool to recognize TRAP LINE when it comes along and the only trap line I recognized among the comments examples is the Under on SF vs COL as someone has stated rightly so. 
    Comprehension of a material you read should be a priority before your desire to get a smart ass reaction
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2012 - 1:08 PM ET #22

    I mean theb trap was to make us to take Over while the right bet was Under - correction to above comment of mine
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    I mean theb trap was to make us to take Over while the right bet was Under - correction to above comment of mine
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    One other thing..if it's going to be a game that draws heavy action, like a nationally televised Sunday night game, and the line looks too easy, go the opposite way.  
    ________________

    Blows me away.  So if you could get +200 on Texas tonight, you'd turn that down because it "looks too easy?"

    Where do these people come from?  


    I think you're over simplifying it.  I've studied lines for about a year and half and have probably put over 200+ hours into analyzing the trends in vegas payouts and vegas rakes.  It's situational, and won't be as obvious as your +200 Texas idea you conjured up.  I've had several people who put about 5 minutes of thought into it up against my hundreds of hours of research tell me I'm crazy. 

    The idea that vegas is inducing action on the games they'll make the most profit on isn't that much of a stretch, is it?

    Believe what you want to believe and do what works for you.  I'm doing what works for me, and doing well at it.  BOL 
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    One other thing..if it's going to be a game that draws heavy action, like a nationally televised Sunday night game, and the line looks too easy, go the opposite way.  
    ________________

    Blows me away.  So if you could get +200 on Texas tonight, you'd turn that down because it "looks too easy?"

    Where do these people come from?  


    I think you're over simplifying it.  I've studied lines for about a year and half and have probably put over 200+ hours into analyzing the trends in vegas payouts and vegas rakes.  It's situational, and won't be as obvious as your +200 Texas idea you conjured up.  I've had several people who put about 5 minutes of thought into it up against my hundreds of hours of research tell me I'm crazy. 

    The idea that vegas is inducing action on the games they'll make the most profit on isn't that much of a stretch, is it?

    Believe what you want to believe and do what works for you.  I'm doing what works for me, and doing well at it.  BOL 
     
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    If you ask me, the total in the Boston/Baltimore game of 8.5 looks shady to me.  Beckett has been a gas can lately and the Red Sox can put up runs, especially against lefties.  So a total of 8.5?  The public is hammering the over with over 90% of the action on it, and the line is holding steady at 8.5.  So is it a vegas gift or a vegas trap?  I'm wrong plenty but I say trap.  I think Beckett's back is feeling better and both pitchers are looking to bounce back from sub-par outings last game.

    This is an example of what I'm talking about.
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    If you ask me, the total in the Boston/Baltimore game of 8.5 looks shady to me.  Beckett has been a gas can lately and the Red Sox can put up runs, especially against lefties.  So a total of 8.5?  The public is hammering the over with over 90% of the action on it, and the line is holding steady at 8.5.  So is it a vegas gift or a vegas trap?  I'm wrong plenty but I say trap.  I think Beckett's back is feeling better and both pitchers are looking to bounce back from sub-par outings last game.

    This is an example of what I'm talking about.
     
     
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    This thread

    The old trap theory hahahahahah..... how about they know way more than you. The lines makers are not dumb like you either.  I guess the braves were never gonna lose again? Public perception makes it easy for Vegas to set lines.

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    The old trap theory hahahahahah..... how about they know way more than you. The lines makers are not dumb like you either.  I guess the braves were never gonna lose again? Public perception makes it easy for Vegas to set lines.

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