This will be a day off, but only a day or two. The anger, frustration and rant are gone. Whatever happened is in the books and a part of history.
I want to say thanx to friends for absorbing the rant and encouraging me to stay with you. I will. Promise.
Foes are foes and trolls will be trolls. Ignore them long enough and most are intelligent enough to get the drift. The really hard-headed devotees of trolling never laern, but it is best to ignore them anyway.
See you tomorrow, or Friday for sure
Thanx again
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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This will be a day off, but only a day or two. The anger, frustration and rant are gone. Whatever happened is in the books and a part of history.
I want to say thanx to friends for absorbing the rant and encouraging me to stay with you. I will. Promise.
Foes are foes and trolls will be trolls. Ignore them long enough and most are intelligent enough to get the drift. The really hard-headed devotees of trolling never laern, but it is best to ignore them anyway.
The game we grew up with is no longer what they play now, numbers that we thought would always matter are a thing of the past. 300 average not a big deal anymore for money as long as you have 25 to 35 homers, worth 20 million a year now or more if anyone is on base when you hit them. I happened to put on the SA-Minn playoff game as they were showing AROD, shortstop for Yankees, the owner of the Minn TWolves which they mention the value of team at 1.6 billion. My brain went to 1967 or so when Koufax and Drysdale went to Dodgers owner and demanded they get a raise from 100,000 to 125,000 after winning 49 or so games that year and more than likely pitched half the teams innings.
If fact checked on numbers was going by memory, (hate Google) but believe Koufax had 27 wins that year, I still remember a game in 60s when Koufax and Marichal went against each other, 16 innings both pitchers went until the Dodgers won 1-0 after 16 innings. Starters now pitch 4 or 5 innings unless they are doing great and have low pitch count they could go 6 innings. Then I think of the stories we used to hear about the Cards trying to take Gibson out of a game, they used to play for the love of the game now it is to buy a basketball team and get your TV shot on sidelines looking fat and happy.
See you Friday .
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The game we grew up with is no longer what they play now, numbers that we thought would always matter are a thing of the past. 300 average not a big deal anymore for money as long as you have 25 to 35 homers, worth 20 million a year now or more if anyone is on base when you hit them. I happened to put on the SA-Minn playoff game as they were showing AROD, shortstop for Yankees, the owner of the Minn TWolves which they mention the value of team at 1.6 billion. My brain went to 1967 or so when Koufax and Drysdale went to Dodgers owner and demanded they get a raise from 100,000 to 125,000 after winning 49 or so games that year and more than likely pitched half the teams innings.
If fact checked on numbers was going by memory, (hate Google) but believe Koufax had 27 wins that year, I still remember a game in 60s when Koufax and Marichal went against each other, 16 innings both pitchers went until the Dodgers won 1-0 after 16 innings. Starters now pitch 4 or 5 innings unless they are doing great and have low pitch count they could go 6 innings. Then I think of the stories we used to hear about the Cards trying to take Gibson out of a game, they used to play for the love of the game now it is to buy a basketball team and get your TV shot on sidelines looking fat and happy.
You are a treasure my friend. Yeah, Ruth was overpaid at 80K a year and when Mickey, Willie, Stan and Ted broke a hundred grand you would have thought MLB was going to go bankrupt. Then Nolan Ryan becomes the first million dollar baby and the screaming was endless "He only works one out of five days!". MLB found out it was guys like Nolan Ryan and Reggie Jackson that put butts in the seats (and turned televisions on), and the game hasn't been the same since; and it coming back.
We live with what we got, like it or not. Life goes on.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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@JEG53
You are a treasure my friend. Yeah, Ruth was overpaid at 80K a year and when Mickey, Willie, Stan and Ted broke a hundred grand you would have thought MLB was going to go bankrupt. Then Nolan Ryan becomes the first million dollar baby and the screaming was endless "He only works one out of five days!". MLB found out it was guys like Nolan Ryan and Reggie Jackson that put butts in the seats (and turned televisions on), and the game hasn't been the same since; and it coming back.
We live with what we got, like it or not. Life goes on.
There was an article in Sports Illustrated in the mid 80's about a guy who quit his job and moved his family to Vegas. Made over $130k a year (now equivalent to about $425k), betting MLB only, never got cut off and based every wager on starting pitcher.
But I don't have to tell this thread about starters going 7 and a third minimum with a middle reliever going 2/3rds and the closer 1 inning. If your team was up by 2 or 3+ runs when the starter got pulled, IF the starter got pulled, you had an 80% chance of winning that game. Because there wasn't enough time for the other team to come back in only 3 or 4 outs.
The old handicapping ways are long gone. With everything going on, designated hitter rule and especially with the now defunct shift, analytics, and how much weight the pen now factors in to every game, it's almost a full time job. And then every other year teams have 60% of their personnel changed. How do they all gel? Well ya gotta wait and see until week 10 godammit.
I calculate the pen, how they're doing, splits, how many innings pitched last 3 calendar days, almost as much as the starter.
Nobody in their right minds even considered the pen, closers etc... no one even knew the pen except starting with Eckersly is when folks started paying attention.
But peeling back all the changes, roll with them or not, baseball is still the thinking man's game with so many behind the scenes angles, strategies. It's still pure enough for this old timer to still be in love like a horny school boy.
Maybe I'm not so old...
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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There was an article in Sports Illustrated in the mid 80's about a guy who quit his job and moved his family to Vegas. Made over $130k a year (now equivalent to about $425k), betting MLB only, never got cut off and based every wager on starting pitcher.
But I don't have to tell this thread about starters going 7 and a third minimum with a middle reliever going 2/3rds and the closer 1 inning. If your team was up by 2 or 3+ runs when the starter got pulled, IF the starter got pulled, you had an 80% chance of winning that game. Because there wasn't enough time for the other team to come back in only 3 or 4 outs.
The old handicapping ways are long gone. With everything going on, designated hitter rule and especially with the now defunct shift, analytics, and how much weight the pen now factors in to every game, it's almost a full time job. And then every other year teams have 60% of their personnel changed. How do they all gel? Well ya gotta wait and see until week 10 godammit.
I calculate the pen, how they're doing, splits, how many innings pitched last 3 calendar days, almost as much as the starter.
Nobody in their right minds even considered the pen, closers etc... no one even knew the pen except starting with Eckersly is when folks started paying attention.
But peeling back all the changes, roll with them or not, baseball is still the thinking man's game with so many behind the scenes angles, strategies. It's still pure enough for this old timer to still be in love like a horny school boy.
I had forgotten about the 100,000 bashing from then, I grew up in a racist area outside SF and people went crazy that they paid Willie Mays 100 grand to play baseball, a person of color.. Man I cleaned that up.
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@KeyElement
I had forgotten about the 100,000 bashing from then, I grew up in a racist area outside SF and people went crazy that they paid Willie Mays 100 grand to play baseball, a person of color.. Man I cleaned that up.
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