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#101
I agree...did NOT see this one.
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Best pitcher right now in the majors = Jair Jurrjens
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#102
Quote Originally Posted by philthy15:
first of all the experts didn't tell me anything. i already know the phillies are the best team in baseball. funny thing is phils NEVER have division leads this time of year and ALWAYS hit their stride in late august. happens every year where the braves fans talk shit throughout the summer but don't fret your team will soon drift away into obscurity. 
Seriously? Is that all you have? In a thread about individual pitchers all you have is pathetic attempts at insults like “your team is a joke.” 
What are you? 10 years old? Keep it down, kid. The adults are talking. 
Also most knowledgeable Braves and Phillies fans know that the teams are the two best in the NL and both teams will most likely make the playoffs.
Keep on being a homer that is incapable of looking at anything related to your team objectively and keep on making as ass of yourself. 
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#106
I hate baseball but have been an ATL Braves fan since I was a kid. The Braves have always had great scouts for pitching. A solid bullpen through the 90's won them a bunch of division titles and championships.
Watching a guy like Jair pitch the other day was actually entertaining. He's very methodical with his pitches and mixing it up. Can't say much about his progression because I don't get to see a lot of Braves games anymore in Colorado. However when I have seen him he has shown some real flashes of greatness. He definitely has a skill set that other pitchers in the league envy.
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#109
didn't bother reading all 5 pages of this post, but what about Ryan Vogelsong? Better than everyone on that list right now, imo.
Hasn't even given up more than 8 hits in a game all season long.
Pretty damn good record (9-1) considering he's on a team that averages like 2.5 runs a game. Not once this year has he given up more than 3 ER
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#110
Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
6-1 with a 1.56 ERA and in every start so far this season he has gone at least 6 innings and has never given up more than 2 earned runs.
I got to admit I didn’t see that one coming.
Tigers could use em instead of someone like fister tonight....
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#112
Straight Shooter, try to tell us something we don't know. You might be the only person in this forum to think Roy is overrated. 
QUOTE
IMO,
he is overrated. He is great pitcher no doubt, but the way some people
talk about him you’d think every time he stepped on the mound it was a
guarantee he was throwing a complete game shutout. Originally Posted by mylife23:
I have always liked Halladay but I don't think he's the end all be all
for pitchers in this age. There are lots of good arms that are actually
younger and just as effective. The Giants beat him last postseason with a
subpar offense. Look at Cain and LIncecum and they completely shut down
Philadelphia's more potent offense. Lots of options these days in the
MLB for studs on the mound.
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#114
Quote Originally Posted by dimndimn:
didn't bother reading all 5 pages of this post, but what about Ryan Vogelsong? Better than everyone on that list right now, imo.
didn't bother reading all 5 pages of this post, but what about Ryan Vogelsong? Better than everyone on that list right now, imo.
Hasn't even given up more than 8 hits in a game all season long.
Pretty damn good record (9-1) considering he's on a team that averages like 2.5 runs a game. Not once this year has he given up more than 3 ER
Yup, he is putting together a very good year.
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#115
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
Straight Shooter, try to tell us something we don't know. You might be the only person in this forum to think Roy is overrated.
Straight Shooter, try to tell us something we don't know. You might be the only person in this forum to think Roy is overrated.
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Originally Posted by mylife23:
I have always liked Halladay but I don't think he's the end all be all for pitchers in this age. There are lots of good arms that are actually younger and just as effective. The Giants beat him last postseason with a subpar offense. Look at Cain and LIncecum and they completely shut down Philadelphia's more potent offense. Lots of options these days in the MLB for studs on the mound.
IMO, he is overrated. He is great pitcher no doubt, but the way some people talk about him you’d think every time he stepped on the mound it was a guarantee he was throwing a complete game shutout.
Halladay is probably the best pitcher in baseball, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be overrated when the media acts like he is a god that can’t be touched.
Let me try and explain this in a way someone of your intelligence can understand.
Take Kate Upton. She is a very attractive young lady, but if the media crowned her hottest woman who ever lived she would be overrated.
Wise up.
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#116
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
From the mouth of Straight Shooter.
IMO, he is overrated. He is great pitcher no doubt, but the way some people talk about him you’d think every time he stepped on the mound it was a guarantee he was throwing a complete game shutout.
Straight Shooter
From the mouth of Straight Shooter.
IMO, he is overrated. He is great pitcher no doubt, but the way some people talk about him you’d think every time he stepped on the mound it was a guarantee he was throwing a complete game shutout.
Straight ShooterSame post two minutes later.
Keep at it, kid. 
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#117
Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Halladay is probably the best pitcher in baseball, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be overrated when the media acts like he is a god that can’t be touched.
Let me try and explain this in a way someone of your intelligence can understand.
Take Kate Upton. She is a very attractive young lady, but if the media crowned her hottest woman who ever lived she would be overrated.
Wise up.
Who is Kate Upton? You speak of her as if every guy knows who she is. So your comparison is not easy to understand. Everyone that reads this board is going to know who Roy is, so try another comparison if you want to seem like a smart as$.
Next, the media has not been, nor have they been touting Roy as the greatest pitcher.
You need to understand how to use "overrated". Overrated has nothing to do with what the media portrays. They need to report so they will say anything. Over rated should be defined by how much money a player makes, compared to the numbers they actually produce.
For example an over rated player might get paid 10million a year to hit in the 4 hole. At the end of the year, if they only hit 15 home runs and are very close to the bottom of the league for that position in HRs, the also happen to be near the top pay wise, they are probably overrated. Just because the media says a player is good, doesn't mean they are overrated. No matter how much media hype they have.
your list of "overrated" players so far.
Roy Halladay
Brian Wilson
Please tell us who else would you like to add so we can have a little laugh.
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#118
Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
Same post two minutes later.
Keep at it, kid.
Yes 2 posts. I did not quote your phrase right so the first time so I made another post to clear it up. I wanted to make it easy for people to understand that sentence came from you. I would not want people to think those thoughts were associated with myself.
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#119
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
Who is Kate Upton? You speak of her as if every guy knows who she is. So your comparison is not easy to understand. Everyone that reads this board is going to know who Roy is, so try another comparison if you want to seem like a smart as$.
Next, the media has not been, nor have they been touting Roy as the greatest pitcher.
You need to understand how to use "overrated". Overrated has nothing to do with what the media portrays. They need to report so they will say anything. Over rated should be defined by how much money a player makes, compared to the numbers they actually produce.
For example an over rated player might get paid 10million a year to hit in the 4 hole. At the end of the year, if they only hit 15 home runs and are very close to the bottom of the league for that position in HRs, the also happen to be near the top pay wise, they are probably overrated. Just because the media says a player is good, doesn't mean they are overrated. No matter how much media hype they have.
your list of "overrated" players so far.
Roy Halladay
Brian Wilson
Please tell us who else would you like to add so we can have a little laugh.
Who is Kate Upton? You speak of her as if every guy knows who she is. So your comparison is not easy to understand. Everyone that reads this board is going to know who Roy is, so try another comparison if you want to seem like a smart as$.
Next, the media has not been, nor have they been touting Roy as the greatest pitcher.
You need to understand how to use "overrated". Overrated has nothing to do with what the media portrays. They need to report so they will say anything. Over rated should be defined by how much money a player makes, compared to the numbers they actually produce.
For example an over rated player might get paid 10million a year to hit in the 4 hole. At the end of the year, if they only hit 15 home runs and are very close to the bottom of the league for that position in HRs, the also happen to be near the top pay wise, they are probably overrated. Just because the media says a player is good, doesn't mean they are overrated. No matter how much media hype they have.
your list of "overrated" players so far.
Roy Halladay
Brian Wilson
Please tell us who else would you like to add so we can have a little laugh.
I can’t really say I’m surprised you don’t know who Kate Upton is. Perhaps Justin Bieber would be more up your ally.
Do yourself a favor and look up the word “overrated.” It doesn’t mean something isn’t good. It means something has been rated too high. Like I said: Doc is probably the best pitcher in baseball, but doesn’t mean he can’t be overrated if people think he is better than he is.
Do you really not understand this or are you just trolling?
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#120
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
Yes 2 posts. I did not quote your phrase right so the first time so I made another post to clear it up. I wanted to make it easy for people to understand that sentence came from you. I would not want people to think those thoughts were associated with myself.
Yes 2 posts. I did not quote your phrase right so the first time so I made another post to clear it up. I wanted to make it easy for people to understand that sentence came from you. I would not want people to think those thoughts were associated with myself.
Despite your use of the English language I think most people got what you were attempting to say.
I’d also like to point out that you are arguing with someone over a post they made that started with “IMO.”
You do know what “IMO” stands for, right?
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Posted:
#121
Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
I can’t really say I’m surprised you don’t know who Kate Upton is. Perhaps Justin Bieber would be more up your ally.
Do yourself a favor and look up the word “overrated.” It doesn’t mean something isn’t good. It means something has been rated too high. Like I said: Doc is probably the best pitcher in baseball, but doesn’t mean he can’t be overrated if people think he is better than he is.
Do you really not understand this or are you just trolling?
So now the media is the only place that has the ability to "rate" a player? You are contradicting yourself here. You say he may be the best in the game, but yet you also say hes overrated?
Do you expect him to be a god? Where is the middle with you? IMO your opinion is a bit off scale and whack. IMO overrated means it is not good, hence they are rated higher then what they are performing ( do we not compare players based on their contracts and what performance is expected with their pay?). Why would you assume the media is the only matter when it comes to rating a player? I would think overrated has more to do with performance compared to pay.
You think overrated has more to do with what the media and public think compared to...... what??
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Posted:
#122
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
So now the media is the only place that has the ability to "rate" a player? You are contradicting yourself here. You say he may be the best in the game, but yet you also say hes overrated? Do you expect him to be a god? Where is the middle with you? IMO your opinion is a bit off scale and whack. IMO overrated means it is not good, hence they are rated higher then what they are performing ( do we not compare players based on their contracts and what performance is expected with their pay?). Why would you assume the media is the only matter when it comes to rating a player?
I would think overrated has more to do with performance compared to pay.
You think overrated has more to do with what the media and public think compared to...... what??
So now the media is the only place that has the ability to "rate" a player? You are contradicting yourself here. You say he may be the best in the game, but yet you also say hes overrated?
Do you expect him to be a god? Where is the middle with you? IMO your opinion is a bit off scale and whack. IMO overrated means it is not good, hence they are rated higher then what they are performing ( do we not compare players based on their contracts and what performance is expected with their pay?). Why would you assume the media is the only matter when it comes to rating a player? I would think overrated has more to do with performance compared to pay.
You think overrated has more to do with what the media and public think compared to...... what??
How are you still not understanding that a player can be great, but still be overrated?
I think Roy Halladay is probably the best pitcher in the NL right now, but because a lot of people act like every time he takes the mound it’s a guarantee he is going at least 8 innings and giving up no more than a single earned run it is MY OPINION that he is overrated.
I’ve explained it as simply as I possibly can.
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Posted:
#125
And she stars in one of the hottest commercials to ever air nationally on US television:
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