On the MLB Network, they keep scrolling Nolan Arenado's awesome stats. He's a really good player no doubt, especially defensively. He has a killer glove and turns plays that the average guy probably doesn't.
But, why isn't any one talking about the Coors field factor? Here is the pudding.
Would we be shocked if by the end of the year people start saying, "this guy is not living up to his contract"?
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On the MLB Network, they keep scrolling Nolan Arenado's awesome stats. He's a really good player no doubt, especially defensively. He has a killer glove and turns plays that the average guy probably doesn't.
But, why isn't any one talking about the Coors field factor? Here is the pudding.
Also, he struck out less at home. We know that making a baseball break or cut in the thin air is hard for a pitcher.
At Coors he struck out once for every 7.29 PA's
On the road, 6.13.
That is very good plate discipline in today's mlb, non the less.
I can't poo poo the guy, plays hard nosed D and has good plate discipline. You don't see those types much anymore. But I got to think that playing at Coors helped him catch this monster deal.
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Also, he struck out less at home. We know that making a baseball break or cut in the thin air is hard for a pitcher.
At Coors he struck out once for every 7.29 PA's
On the road, 6.13.
That is very good plate discipline in today's mlb, non the less.
I can't poo poo the guy, plays hard nosed D and has good plate discipline. You don't see those types much anymore. But I got to think that playing at Coors helped him catch this monster deal.
That has always been the case for players that spent a decent amount of years at Coors Field, of course the ball carries much more but I think its the pitcher not being able to get the movement on the ball, you throw 95 with a flat ball major league players can hit that, remember the old saying on kids coming up, :Can He Hit A Curveball:.An example is Billy Bean, killer hitter growing up, hit everything in high school and I assume he hit in minors, but was not able to hit the major league curve, short career playing.
On the radio today they said some former Rookie of the year in baseball was retiring, anyone hear who it was? The radio never said who, just that it happened.
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@undermysac
That has always been the case for players that spent a decent amount of years at Coors Field, of course the ball carries much more but I think its the pitcher not being able to get the movement on the ball, you throw 95 with a flat ball major league players can hit that, remember the old saying on kids coming up, :Can He Hit A Curveball:.An example is Billy Bean, killer hitter growing up, hit everything in high school and I assume he hit in minors, but was not able to hit the major league curve, short career playing.
On the radio today they said some former Rookie of the year in baseball was retiring, anyone hear who it was? The radio never said who, just that it happened.
Dustin Pedroia is the guy, who officially retired today.
We'll see how Arenado will do, the talent is there, I guess the closest example we have, on how a good baseball hitter did, after leaving Coors Fields is DJ LeMahieu, his numbers didn't suffer with the Yankees, although DJ might be a more complete hitter, as opposed to Arenado.
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@JEG53
Dustin Pedroia is the guy, who officially retired today.
We'll see how Arenado will do, the talent is there, I guess the closest example we have, on how a good baseball hitter did, after leaving Coors Fields is DJ LeMahieu, his numbers didn't suffer with the Yankees, although DJ might be a more complete hitter, as opposed to Arenado.
Keep in mind, Arenado's road numbers were no secret. It is not like the Cardinals were unaware of his road numbers and didn't take that into consideration. So, if WE or SOMEONE, at the end of the year say, "he was a disappointment", that may be only a personal perspective and the Cardinals may well be satisfied. Major league franchise personnel do not look at prior years home-away numbers and expect that to rule the new performance. They are well aware of the Coors factor and are taking it into consideration.
Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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Keep in mind, Arenado's road numbers were no secret. It is not like the Cardinals were unaware of his road numbers and didn't take that into consideration. So, if WE or SOMEONE, at the end of the year say, "he was a disappointment", that may be only a personal perspective and the Cardinals may well be satisfied. Major league franchise personnel do not look at prior years home-away numbers and expect that to rule the new performance. They are well aware of the Coors factor and are taking it into consideration.
Chris Archer agreed to a one-year deal with the Rays worth $6.5 million on Tuesday. This one is interesting, can the Rays revive Archer?
Yesterday MLB proposed that the season should be pushed 1 month, because of Covid, but MLBPA refused... MLB wanted the regular season to start on the 29th of April with the teams playing a 154-game schedule, that would pay players in full as if playing 162 games.
I'm gonna call it now, spring training is gonna be a mess, with teams going in and out off quarantine...
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Chris Archer agreed to a one-year deal with the Rays worth $6.5 million on Tuesday. This one is interesting, can the Rays revive Archer?
Yesterday MLB proposed that the season should be pushed 1 month, because of Covid, but MLBPA refused... MLB wanted the regular season to start on the 29th of April with the teams playing a 154-game schedule, that would pay players in full as if playing 162 games.
I'm gonna call it now, spring training is gonna be a mess, with teams going in and out off quarantine...
Chris Archer agreed to a one-year deal with the Rays worth $6.5 million on Tuesday. This one is interesting, can the Rays revive Archer? Yesterday MLB proposed that the season should be pushed 1 month, because of Covid, but MLBPA refused... MLB wanted the regular season to start on the 29th of April with the teams playing a 154-game schedule, that would pay players in full as if playing 162 games. I'm gonna call it now, spring training is gonna be a mess, with teams going in and out off quarantine...
Playing in Arizona and Florida, two states with the highest covid rates, what could go wrong?
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Quote Originally Posted by yaongingy:
Chris Archer agreed to a one-year deal with the Rays worth $6.5 million on Tuesday. This one is interesting, can the Rays revive Archer? Yesterday MLB proposed that the season should be pushed 1 month, because of Covid, but MLBPA refused... MLB wanted the regular season to start on the 29th of April with the teams playing a 154-game schedule, that would pay players in full as if playing 162 games. I'm gonna call it now, spring training is gonna be a mess, with teams going in and out off quarantine...
Playing in Arizona and Florida, two states with the highest covid rates, what could go wrong?
Archer, 32, had been a disappointment since being traded from the Rays, with whom he was a two-time All-Star selection, to the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for Tyler Glasnow, Austin Meadows and Shane Baz in 2018. Archer, who signed a six-year, $25.5 million deal in 2014, went 6-12 with a 4.92 ERA in 33 starts for the Pirates, including a 3-9 mark with a 5.19 ERA in 2019.
I do not know why they removed the headlines from above post that the Players turn down the Owners plan to start the season later, maybe because I got it from ESPN??
If it stays on I have Archer's numbers after being traded from the Rays to Pirates,6 years he makes 25.5 million, tanks terrible with Pittsburgh and what happens to him,
Rays resign him for 6.5 million for one year, which makes his pay 32 million for 7 years and I am guessing he took last year off, not to bad.
@TIPOF-THE-SWORD
As far as your Reds if you look at them not doing much yet to improve the team and last year being about a 500 team, figure for a full season with staying healthy you will win more that they lose but still end up as a third place team. Might be some free agents still that could help them but as of now they have not gotten involved, couple minor trades, I do not see them as being one of my favorite teams this year.
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Archer, 32, had been a disappointment since being traded from the Rays, with whom he was a two-time All-Star selection, to the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for Tyler Glasnow, Austin Meadows and Shane Baz in 2018. Archer, who signed a six-year, $25.5 million deal in 2014, went 6-12 with a 4.92 ERA in 33 starts for the Pirates, including a 3-9 mark with a 5.19 ERA in 2019.
I do not know why they removed the headlines from above post that the Players turn down the Owners plan to start the season later, maybe because I got it from ESPN??
If it stays on I have Archer's numbers after being traded from the Rays to Pirates,6 years he makes 25.5 million, tanks terrible with Pittsburgh and what happens to him,
Rays resign him for 6.5 million for one year, which makes his pay 32 million for 7 years and I am guessing he took last year off, not to bad.
@TIPOF-THE-SWORD
As far as your Reds if you look at them not doing much yet to improve the team and last year being about a 500 team, figure for a full season with staying healthy you will win more that they lose but still end up as a third place team. Might be some free agents still that could help them but as of now they have not gotten involved, couple minor trades, I do not see them as being one of my favorite teams this year.
You could be right, just looking over things last few days and that lousy year 2020 season and could not see why Cards and Brewers would not stay 1 and 2 again with St. Louis having the best shot at first, know you have this Reds thing but would not bother me to be rooting for my Reds.
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@undermysac
You could be right, just looking over things last few days and that lousy year 2020 season and could not see why Cards and Brewers would not stay 1 and 2 again with St. Louis having the best shot at first, know you have this Reds thing but would not bother me to be rooting for my Reds.
@undermysac You could be right, just looking over things last few days and that lousy year 2020 season and could not see why Cards and Brewers would not stay 1 and 2 again with St. Louis having the best shot at first, know you have this Reds thing but would not bother me to be rooting for my Reds.
The Cubs won the Central last year. Cards 2, Reds 3, then YOUR Brewers 4, Pirates last
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Quote Originally Posted by JEG53:
@undermysac You could be right, just looking over things last few days and that lousy year 2020 season and could not see why Cards and Brewers would not stay 1 and 2 again with St. Louis having the best shot at first, know you have this Reds thing but would not bother me to be rooting for my Reds.
The Cubs won the Central last year. Cards 2, Reds 3, then YOUR Brewers 4, Pirates last
That Archer trade for Glasnow, Meadows, and Baz has a shot at being being the best/worst deal in sports history. Archer straight up for Glasnow alone would have made the top 50.
I hope Archer bounces back for the Rays though. He should, given the way they limit their starters' pitches. If he flirts with .500 pitching in the 4 spot this will be another great year for the Rays.
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That Archer trade for Glasnow, Meadows, and Baz has a shot at being being the best/worst deal in sports history. Archer straight up for Glasnow alone would have made the top 50.
I hope Archer bounces back for the Rays though. He should, given the way they limit their starters' pitches. If he flirts with .500 pitching in the 4 spot this will be another great year for the Rays.
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