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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 2:16 PM ET #51

    Vermeer,

    Octobers..

    Not the best fill so I am taking it up the nose so far and on 30 contracts that adds up quickly.


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    Vermeer,

    Octobers..

    Not the best fill so I am taking it up the nose so far and on 30 contracts that adds up quickly.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 2:50 PM ET #52

    OK just wondered, keep reading varied estimates of DRYS immediate future (had no idea it was $20  6 months ago..wow)...as usual, some think it is not going to stay under 100 for long, some say it is already way over priced...GL, will keep an eye on it. Are you going on momentum alone or ???
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    OK just wondered, keep reading varied estimates of DRYS immediate future (had no idea it was $20  6 months ago..wow)...as usual, some think it is not going to stay under 100 for long, some say it is already way over priced...GL, will keep an eye on it. Are you going on momentum alone or ???
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 2:57 PM ET #53

    Christ, I am beyond at sea..I looked at this company:

    WuXi Pharmatech (NYSE: WX) was started with a Hold rating and $29 target at Jefferies on valuation. JP Morgan started shares with a Neutral rating and Credit Suisse initiated shares with an Outperform rating.

     The P/E is almost 100...man oh man, are P/Es of 100 typical of anything to do with China?????? I just cannot wrap my mind around this valuation.
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    Christ, I am beyond at sea..I looked at this company:

    WuXi Pharmatech (NYSE: WX) was started with a Hold rating and $29 target at Jefferies on valuation. JP Morgan started shares with a Neutral rating and Credit Suisse initiated shares with an Outperform rating.

     The P/E is almost 100...man oh man, are P/Es of 100 typical of anything to do with China?????? I just cannot wrap my mind around this valuation.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 3:09 PM ET #54

    Vermeer,

    Yep..it was a technical/momentum trade, definately high high risk..nothing more.

    I jumped in too early, thought she would bounce into the last part of the day..not getting killed luckily, plus this is a long expiration period, I have quite some time on the options.

    And yep...that and most any China stock has a high multiple or NO multiple because of no earnings.  

    You know what though? I lived and worked through the biggest bubble in history and they CAN take these suckers and turds higher than anyone can imagine..

    I remember stocks that had no right being public that were run to the stratosphere, higher higher higher...China isnt finished just yet, so that list which Gunners gave us should be analyzed and if used correctly could net some HUGE winners, while on the other side if they decide the party is over, they could all get crushed.

    You get what I am saying...     
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    Vermeer,

    Yep..it was a technical/momentum trade, definately high high risk..nothing more.

    I jumped in too early, thought she would bounce into the last part of the day..not getting killed luckily, plus this is a long expiration period, I have quite some time on the options.

    And yep...that and most any China stock has a high multiple or NO multiple because of no earnings.  

    You know what though? I lived and worked through the biggest bubble in history and they CAN take these suckers and turds higher than anyone can imagine..

    I remember stocks that had no right being public that were run to the stratosphere, higher higher higher...China isnt finished just yet, so that list which Gunners gave us should be analyzed and if used correctly could net some HUGE winners, while on the other side if they decide the party is over, they could all get crushed.

    You get what I am saying...     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 3:40 PM ET #55

    CRDC moving higher today...good volume and a nice move.

    I am going to regret not having 10k of this stock I know it..


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    CRDC moving higher today...good volume and a nice move.

    I am going to regret not having 10k of this stock I know it..


     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 3:54 PM ET #56

    CRDC is going NUTS the last few minutes of the day.
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    CRDC is going NUTS the last few minutes of the day.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 3:55 PM ET #57

    Me likey...

    Go CRDC!!
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    Me likey...

    Go CRDC!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 3:59 PM ET #58

    nice work on CRDC guys.  man i need some cash.  i feel like i'm missing everything.  come on bonus season!
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    nice work on CRDC guys.  man i need some cash.  i feel like i'm missing everything.  come on bonus season!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 4:04 PM ET #59

    I'm just watching too Gun.  Like an idiot, I was waiting for the stock to pull back below $9 cause I'm sooooo smart.  Well, look what that 25 cents per share just cost me not buying this morning............
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    I'm just watching too Gun.  Like an idiot, I was waiting for the stock to pull back below $9 cause I'm sooooo smart.  Well, look what that 25 cents per share just cost me not buying this morning............
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 6:15 PM ET #60

    Stock up even more in after hours, hit 13 actually.

    I need to see what the conference news was, but this move comes because of the conference they attended.
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    Stock up even more in after hours, hit 13 actually.

    I need to see what the conference news was, but this move comes because of the conference they attended.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 6:28 PM ET #61

    Yep, no offense meant, but "waiting to see what happens" means one thing......you'll wait forever.
     
    Cheers, WSC, on CRDC.
     
    Now, time for me to sell 1/2 and let the other half ride.
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    Yep, no offense meant, but "waiting to see what happens" means one thing......you'll wait forever.
     
    Cheers, WSC, on CRDC.
     
    Now, time for me to sell 1/2 and let the other half ride.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 6:35 PM ET #62

    Thanks claycourt,

    Now I need DRYS to hit 105 by next week.


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    Thanks claycourt,

    Now I need DRYS to hit 105 by next week.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 7:12 PM ET #63

    Yep, going to sell 1/2 in AH and let it ride. 
     
    Good luck on DRYS.
     
    Cheers
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    Yep, going to sell 1/2 in AH and let it ride. 
     
    Good luck on DRYS.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 7:39 PM ET #64

    CRDC is going to be a wild ride tomorrow.....no doubt.
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    CRDC is going to be a wild ride tomorrow.....no doubt.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 7:45 PM ET #65

    claycourt,

    Nice trade..congrats at booking some profits. I will just slide a stop behind the trade..so I dont give up too much of the gains, yet if she busts over the high for the year, who knows where it goes.
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    claycourt,

    Nice trade..congrats at booking some profits. I will just slide a stop behind the trade..so I dont give up too much of the gains, yet if she busts over the high for the year, who knows where it goes.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 8:25 PM ET #66


     Yeah CRDC!!!!! Just got home to read this...keep on keeping on!!! 

     And yes, I get what ya mean WSS...I just am amazed at P/E ratios like that and higher (or as you said, no earnings=no P/E)...

     I look at that drug stock in the Caymans/China, and then I think, I think GE will be around in 5 years, will these guys?!!! Oh well, let it roll...and all hope that we are seated when the music stops!!

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     Yeah CRDC!!!!! Just got home to read this...keep on keeping on!!! 

     And yes, I get what ya mean WSS...I just am amazed at P/E ratios like that and higher (or as you said, no earnings=no P/E)...

     I look at that drug stock in the Caymans/China, and then I think, I think GE will be around in 5 years, will these guys?!!! Oh well, let it roll...and all hope that we are seated when the music stops!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 9:08 PM ET #67

    Riding SUF Sulphco
     
    Sounds to good to be true probably is.. Worth a look.  Good story. thats about it.
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    Riding SUF Sulphco
     
    Sounds to good to be true probably is.. Worth a look.  Good story. thats about it.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 9:36 PM ET #68

    Toadyrock,

    I looked over SUF real quick..I see a 4 cent book value and selling at huge muliples..

    What is the hook? I see they process oil, but didnt look further..what do you know about these guys?
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    Toadyrock,

    I looked over SUF real quick..I see a 4 cent book value and selling at huge muliples..

    What is the hook? I see they process oil, but didnt look further..what do you know about these guys?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 10:12 PM ET #69

    Yeah, man, CRDC could go 15ish over the next few months, or go 5ish.
     
    ALL depends on whether the market makers (I mean ticker price manipulators) want it higher or lower in this hideous game of liar's poker.
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    Yeah, man, CRDC could go 15ish over the next few months, or go 5ish.
     
    ALL depends on whether the market makers (I mean ticker price manipulators) want it higher or lower in this hideous game of liar's poker.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 10:18 PM ET #70

    The big problem with CRDC, though, is there is such a little short position to terrorize.  Therefore, there really isn't enough gas to really get the flame out of control.  And it has no earnings, so the mutual money ain't going to keep it rolling, either.
     
    Really will come down to panic long buying, or it won't go anywhere.
     
    Why is FSLR moving?  One reason........HUHE SHORT INTEREST.
     
    I've said it before and will say it again......FSLR is a short seller's worst fucking nightmare.
     
    Oh yeah, years from now, the shorts will be right, but shorting it now takes a shitload of balls, cash reserves to weather the storm, and the patience to wait it out.
     
    But in the interim, the manipulators could run dry a lot of accounts before they call off the dogs.
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    The big problem with CRDC, though, is there is such a little short position to terrorize.  Therefore, there really isn't enough gas to really get the flame out of control.  And it has no earnings, so the mutual money ain't going to keep it rolling, either.
     
    Really will come down to panic long buying, or it won't go anywhere.
     
    Why is FSLR moving?  One reason........HUHE SHORT INTEREST.
     
    I've said it before and will say it again......FSLR is a short seller's worst fucking nightmare.
     
    Oh yeah, years from now, the shorts will be right, but shorting it now takes a shitload of balls, cash reserves to weather the storm, and the patience to wait it out.
     
    But in the interim, the manipulators could run dry a lot of accounts before they call off the dogs.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 10:28 PM ET #71

    Yep that is true on stocks like FSLR, they will keep getting pushed and pushed and pushed.

    CRDC is a different animal, now if there was a large short position then it would probably go to 25, but somtimes companies go up based on POTENTIAL, not on market maker short smashing..

    Stocks like IMCL, ONXX, HANS etc moved because of growth, same goes for RIMM..

    I dont look at CRDC as a short squeeze as to why I am in the stocks...  
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    Yep that is true on stocks like FSLR, they will keep getting pushed and pushed and pushed.

    CRDC is a different animal, now if there was a large short position then it would probably go to 25, but somtimes companies go up based on POTENTIAL, not on market maker short smashing..

    Stocks like IMCL, ONXX, HANS etc moved because of growth, same goes for RIMM..

    I dont look at CRDC as a short squeeze as to why I am in the stocks...  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2007 - 11:27 PM ET #72

    Depeche--RE: OVTI
     
    I like that sector.  I'm into SWKS which has also been very good
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    Depeche--RE: OVTI
     
    I like that sector.  I'm into SWKS which has also been very good
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2007 - 12:28 AM ET #73

    I bought some Kong and Noec today.   Gonna hold and wait and see. I think I will buy some Drys if its down tommorow
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    I bought some Kong and Noec today.   Gonna hold and wait and see. I think I will buy some Drys if its down tommorow
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2007 - 8:31 AM ET #74


     This may be a stupid question: but can someone tell me a specific instance of a short squeeze, the stock and the result? Thanks...

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     This may be a stupid question: but can someone tell me a specific instance of a short squeeze, the stock and the result? Thanks...

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2007 - 10:27 AM ET #75

    bought slw.to at 13.60 yesterday before it jumped. Buy this stock on the dips. Silver mining company in Canada
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    bought slw.to at 13.60 yesterday before it jumped. Buy this stock on the dips. Silver mining company in Canada
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