• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 6
      NFL Week 6
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Moneyline Picks
      • NFL ATS Picks
      • Survivor Picks
      • Week 6 Odds
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Horse Racing

    Tax Question

    skoda
    howzuck
    hillardoh1
    Jr315
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 1186
    Posts: 23
     
    skoda
    skoda
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 2161
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 12:45 PM ET #1

    Have statement from site I play at Bet America

    Wager - Winnings = total loses

    (?) Can I claim my total loses as a deduction?

    10-7= 3

    is

    H&R said to stop in curious b4 going waiting on a 1095 from Marketplace

    Thanks 
    Reply
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Have statement from site I play at Bet America

    Wager - Winnings = total loses

    (?) Can I claim my total loses as a deduction?

    10-7= 3

    is

    H&R said to stop in curious b4 going waiting on a 1095 from Marketplace

    Thanks 
     
    howzuck
    howzuck
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2005
    Posts: 4705
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 1:32 PM ET #2

    Skoda, in the USA, if you collect $600 or more at odds of 299-1 or greater, you will be issued a 1099-G for your net winnings on that race.  I believe there is mandatory withholding of 20% on winnings of at least $1000 (they may have changed that to $5,000).  If you itemize deductions on Schedule A, you may deduct gambling losses up to the extent of your reported winnings (but no expenses allowed).  If you do not itemize deductions, you can't deduct gambling losses at all unless you can be classified as professional gambler, which is very difficult to do.  Hope this helps.....
    Reply
    Skoda, in the USA, if you collect $600 or more at odds of 299-1 or greater, you will be issued a 1099-G for your net winnings on that race.  I believe there is mandatory withholding of 20% on winnings of at least $1000 (they may have changed that to $5,000).  If you itemize deductions on Schedule A, you may deduct gambling losses up to the extent of your reported winnings (but no expenses allowed).  If you do not itemize deductions, you can't deduct gambling losses at all unless you can be classified as professional gambler, which is very difficult to do.  Hope this helps.....
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 1:34 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:

    Have statement from site I play at Bet America

    Wager - Winnings = total loses

    (?) Can I claim my total loses as a deduction?

    10-7= 3

    is

    H&R said to stop in curious b4 going waiting on a 1095 from Marketplace

    Thanks 
    I actually heard about one of the guys who was in the famous Billy Walters Computer Group tried to claim deductions on his losses and went to court and the I.R.S. said he had to still pay up and the losses had not counted as deductions. Every case is different but I suppose he might have been trying to extend his deductions from previous years to next year filings in which I know you cant do with gambling. 
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:

    Have statement from site I play at Bet America

    Wager - Winnings = total loses

    (?) Can I claim my total loses as a deduction?

    10-7= 3

    is

    H&R said to stop in curious b4 going waiting on a 1095 from Marketplace

    Thanks 
    I actually heard about one of the guys who was in the famous Billy Walters Computer Group tried to claim deductions on his losses and went to court and the I.R.S. said he had to still pay up and the losses had not counted as deductions. Every case is different but I suppose he might have been trying to extend his deductions from previous years to next year filings in which I know you cant do with gambling. 
     
    howzuck
    howzuck
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2005
    Posts: 4705
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 1:39 PM ET #4

    Yes, that's true, you also can't carry forward or back gambling losses to prior years (unlike capital losses and net operating losses)
    Reply
    Yes, that's true, you also can't carry forward or back gambling losses to prior years (unlike capital losses and net operating losses)
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 1:40 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:

    Have statement from site I play at Bet America

    Wager - Winnings = total loses

    (?) Can I claim my total loses as a deduction?

    10-7= 3

    is

    H&R said to stop in curious b4 going waiting on a 1095 from Marketplace

    Thanks 
    did not know what a 1095 was until i looked it up. Question did you pay health insurance last year if not your in big doo doo. the obama mandatory health insurance is still in effect and the I.R.S. will take the money from you if you did not buy health insurance.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:

    Have statement from site I play at Bet America

    Wager - Winnings = total loses

    (?) Can I claim my total loses as a deduction?

    10-7= 3

    is

    H&R said to stop in curious b4 going waiting on a 1095 from Marketplace

    Thanks 
    did not know what a 1095 was until i looked it up. Question did you pay health insurance last year if not your in big doo doo. the obama mandatory health insurance is still in effect and the I.R.S. will take the money from you if you did not buy health insurance.
     
    Jr315
    Jr315
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2014
    Posts: 2433
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 1:43 PM ET #6

    Don't claim squat,  let the IRS figure it out.....     Most likely you won't be audited anyway!
    Reply
    Don't claim squat,  let the IRS figure it out.....     Most likely you won't be audited anyway!
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 1:47 PM ET #7

    you can't deduct gambling losses at all unless you can be classified as professional gambler, which is very difficult to do.  Yep sometimes the I.R.S.  is a pain in the booty. I would probably say that less than 1%  of the people that file taxes that gamble file as a professional gambler status and probably would be hard to find a professional tax accountant that could be hired to do this. 
    Reply
    you can't deduct gambling losses at all unless you can be classified as professional gambler, which is very difficult to do.  Yep sometimes the I.R.S.  is a pain in the booty. I would probably say that less than 1%  of the people that file taxes that gamble file as a professional gambler status and probably would be hard to find a professional tax accountant that could be hired to do this. 
     
    Jr315
    Jr315
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2014
    Posts: 2433
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 1:51 PM ET #8

    Exactly hillardoh1,  best to do ignore the IRS unless they catch you!


    No harm, no foul.........

    Reply

    Exactly hillardoh1,  best to do ignore the IRS unless they catch you!


    No harm, no foul.........

     
    skoda
    skoda
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 2161
    Posted: Mar. 16, 2017 - 5:29 PM ET #9

    If you itemize deductions on Schedule A, Thanks you all got me thinking 

    https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/Taxes-101/Can-You-Claim-Gambling-Losses-on-Your-Taxes-/INF14370.html
    ^^^ good read ^^^

    SD is 6400 my loses less

    good idea on letting IRS do and set up payment plan that day

    I was insurance covered for 11 of 12 months but IRS sent me 1095 showing only 10 months.....  They investigated and straightened out said they'll send updated 1095. was easier than expected i phone call that was a 3 way with my Insurer. No penalty as long as coverd 11 of 12

    This could be helpful?

    Other documentation to prove your losses can include:

    • Form W-2G
    • Form 5754
    • wagering tickets
    • canceled checks or credit records Casino Cash Advance
    • and receipts from the gambling facility

    Thanks you all got me thinking
    Reply
    If you itemize deductions on Schedule A, Thanks you all got me thinking 

    https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/Taxes-101/Can-You-Claim-Gambling-Losses-on-Your-Taxes-/INF14370.html
    ^^^ good read ^^^

    SD is 6400 my loses less

    good idea on letting IRS do and set up payment plan that day

    I was insurance covered for 11 of 12 months but IRS sent me 1095 showing only 10 months.....  They investigated and straightened out said they'll send updated 1095. was easier than expected i phone call that was a 3 way with my Insurer. No penalty as long as coverd 11 of 12

    This could be helpful?

    Other documentation to prove your losses can include:

    • Form W-2G
    • Form 5754
    • wagering tickets
    • canceled checks or credit records Casino Cash Advance
    • and receipts from the gambling facility

    Thanks you all got me thinking
     
    howzuck
    howzuck
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2005
    Posts: 4705
    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 1:09 PM ET #10

    Skoda, I am a CPA (among other things), if you need any clarification or have any other questions, send me a friend request with your phone number and I can help you.  I am funny like that, I love giving out free advice, all you have to do is ask....

    Hard to believe I have been at this site (and its predecessor wagerline.com) since 2005, time flies, I have learned so much myself, this board for the most part is very civil and while I do look at the other sports here (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL and CFL and CBB), I like this one the best.  Lots of thanks to Mr. H, but credit goes to others like pittsburghphil, giant causeway, mikeyp and others, they point out stuff that I don't always agree with, but at least other angles and things to consider....
    Reply
    Skoda, I am a CPA (among other things), if you need any clarification or have any other questions, send me a friend request with your phone number and I can help you.  I am funny like that, I love giving out free advice, all you have to do is ask....

    Hard to believe I have been at this site (and its predecessor wagerline.com) since 2005, time flies, I have learned so much myself, this board for the most part is very civil and while I do look at the other sports here (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL and CFL and CBB), I like this one the best.  Lots of thanks to Mr. H, but credit goes to others like pittsburghphil, giant causeway, mikeyp and others, they point out stuff that I don't always agree with, but at least other angles and things to consider....
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 2:16 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Jr315:

    Exactly hillardoh1,  best to do ignore the IRS unless they catch you!


    No harm, no foul.........

    The problem with that is you better either have some cash on hand to pay or else fight it in the courts with a lawyer. GOOD LUCK FIGHTING IN COURT with that. Its probably easier to get off of  a murder charge than tax evasion.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Jr315:

    Exactly hillardoh1,  best to do ignore the IRS unless they catch you!


    No harm, no foul.........

    The problem with that is you better either have some cash on hand to pay or else fight it in the courts with a lawyer. GOOD LUCK FIGHTING IN COURT with that. Its probably easier to get off of  a murder charge than tax evasion.
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 2:19 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:

    If you itemize deductions on Schedule A, Thanks you all got me thinking 

    https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/Taxes-101/Can-You-Claim-Gambling-Losses-on-Your-Taxes-/INF14370.html
    ^^^ good read ^^^

    SD is 6400 my loses less

    good idea on letting IRS do and set up payment plan that day

    I was insurance covered for 11 of 12 months but IRS sent me 1095 showing only 10 months.....  They investigated and straightened out said they'll send updated 1095. was easier than expected i phone call that was a 3 way with my Insurer. No penalty as long as coverd 11 of 12

    This could be helpful?

    Other documentation to prove your losses can include:

    • Form W-2G
    • Form 5754
    • wagering tickets
    • canceled checks or credit records Casino Cash Advance
    • and receipts from the gambling facility

    Thanks you all got me thinking
    I would say that thinks to the OBAMA HEALTH CARE and you did not pay for the full year you may wind up owing something to the I.R.S.  
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by skoda:

    If you itemize deductions on Schedule A, Thanks you all got me thinking 

    https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/Taxes-101/Can-You-Claim-Gambling-Losses-on-Your-Taxes-/INF14370.html
    ^^^ good read ^^^

    SD is 6400 my loses less

    good idea on letting IRS do and set up payment plan that day

    I was insurance covered for 11 of 12 months but IRS sent me 1095 showing only 10 months.....  They investigated and straightened out said they'll send updated 1095. was easier than expected i phone call that was a 3 way with my Insurer. No penalty as long as coverd 11 of 12

    This could be helpful?

    Other documentation to prove your losses can include:

    • Form W-2G
    • Form 5754
    • wagering tickets
    • canceled checks or credit records Casino Cash Advance
    • and receipts from the gambling facility

    Thanks you all got me thinking
    I would say that thinks to the OBAMA HEALTH CARE and you did not pay for the full year you may wind up owing something to the I.R.S.  
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 2:26 PM ET #13

    GAMBLERS really are treated unfairly by the I.R.S. THE BEST ADVICE  say what you owe and just pay it.If you cant pay just ask for an extension and a payment plan. 
    Reply
    GAMBLERS really are treated unfairly by the I.R.S. THE BEST ADVICE  say what you owe and just pay it.If you cant pay just ask for an extension and a payment plan. 
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 17, 2017 - 2:27 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by hillardoh1:

    I would say that thinks to the OBAMA HEALTH CARE and you did not pay for the full year you may wind up owing something to the I.R.S.  
    Trump said he was going to change this but it will be an up hill battle and maybe a long time before it changes.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by hillardoh1:

    I would say that thinks to the OBAMA HEALTH CARE and you did not pay for the full year you may wind up owing something to the I.R.S.  
    Trump said he was going to change this but it will be an up hill battle and maybe a long time before it changes.
     
    skoda
    skoda
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 2161
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 2:48 PM ET #15

    Zuck only way is by the books as you know. Once i get it all organized may give you a PM but I'm going to IRS and let them sign it so if.....

    This is interesting so their saying my advances at Casino with time stamp are valid. No actual record of my putting $$ in Video Poker but I'm sure they have video of my playing right after withdrawal....

    What you say...... Thanks  

    Other documentation to prove your losses can include:

    • Form W-2G
    • Form 5754
    • wagering tickets
    • canceled checks or credit records Casino Cash Advance
    • and receipts from the gambling facility
    Reply
    Zuck only way is by the books as you know. Once i get it all organized may give you a PM but I'm going to IRS and let them sign it so if.....

    This is interesting so their saying my advances at Casino with time stamp are valid. No actual record of my putting $$ in Video Poker but I'm sure they have video of my playing right after withdrawal....

    What you say...... Thanks  

    Other documentation to prove your losses can include:

    • Form W-2G
    • Form 5754
    • wagering tickets
    • canceled checks or credit records Casino Cash Advance
    • and receipts from the gambling facility
     
    skoda
    skoda
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 2161
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 2:52 PM ET #16



    My receipt is my Bank Statement???
    Reply


    My receipt is my Bank Statement???
     
    howzuck
    howzuck
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2005
    Posts: 4705
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 4:22 PM ET #17

    Bank statement won't help unless it clearly state that ATM withdrawals were at the casino.  Those documents you list are the normal ones.  You could take trips to racetracks during year you win and try to collect losing tickets form the floor (no footprints allowed, if you get my drift).  Even here though, you need a log, IRS knows people like to do this and want to make sure people don't abuse this.  It's tough to get around these rules, I know, but it can be done....
    Reply
    Bank statement won't help unless it clearly state that ATM withdrawals were at the casino.  Those documents you list are the normal ones.  You could take trips to racetracks during year you win and try to collect losing tickets form the floor (no footprints allowed, if you get my drift).  Even here though, you need a log, IRS knows people like to do this and want to make sure people don't abuse this.  It's tough to get around these rules, I know, but it can be done....
     
    skoda
    skoda
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 2161
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 4:31 PM ET #18

    Bank statement won't help unless it clearly state that ATM withdrawals were at the casino.

    Does......Maybe my loses on VP at Mohegan plus won/loss statement @ BA will help?

    Just ponies in 2017

     
    Reply
    Bank statement won't help unless it clearly state that ATM withdrawals were at the casino.

    Does......Maybe my loses on VP at Mohegan plus won/loss statement @ BA will help?

    Just ponies in 2017

     
     
    howzuck
    howzuck
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2005
    Posts: 4705
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 4:43 PM ET #19

    Any documentation could help, just remember claim your losses on Schedule A (Other Itemized Deductions, non 2% items), you would have to be audited (1% chance maybe), keep good records.

    In 2017, just keep log of days you go to the track and losing tickets and how you did by the day, make quick notes that night or next day.  I have a preferred customer card at the meadowlands, they can retrieve my activity as long as I uses the card every time I bet.
    Reply
    Any documentation could help, just remember claim your losses on Schedule A (Other Itemized Deductions, non 2% items), you would have to be audited (1% chance maybe), keep good records.

    In 2017, just keep log of days you go to the track and losing tickets and how you did by the day, make quick notes that night or next day.  I have a preferred customer card at the meadowlands, they can retrieve my activity as long as I uses the card every time I bet.
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 4:56 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by howzuck:

    Any documentation could help, just remember claim your losses on Schedule A (Other Itemized Deductions, non 2% items), you would have to be audited (1% chance maybe), keep good records.

    In 2017, just keep log of days you go to the track and losing tickets and how you did by the day, make quick notes that night or next day.  I have a preferred customer card at the meadowlands, they can retrieve my activity as long as I uses the card every time I bet.
    I understand about the preffered cards I do know at that from casinos the current rules are that the gamblers cant use this as for tax purposes. As a matter of fact the casinos had some kind of lawsuit with the I.R.S. stating they do not want these tracking cards the accounts to be used to check the casinos. Thats pretty much means the casinos are hiding money from the I.R.S. or got something to hide.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by howzuck:

    Any documentation could help, just remember claim your losses on Schedule A (Other Itemized Deductions, non 2% items), you would have to be audited (1% chance maybe), keep good records.

    In 2017, just keep log of days you go to the track and losing tickets and how you did by the day, make quick notes that night or next day.  I have a preferred customer card at the meadowlands, they can retrieve my activity as long as I uses the card every time I bet.
    I understand about the preffered cards I do know at that from casinos the current rules are that the gamblers cant use this as for tax purposes. As a matter of fact the casinos had some kind of lawsuit with the I.R.S. stating they do not want these tracking cards the accounts to be used to check the casinos. Thats pretty much means the casinos are hiding money from the I.R.S. or got something to hide.
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 5:00 PM ET #21

    heres an article stating the shady casinos

    https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/business/irs-wants-to-use-casino-comp-cards-to-track-taxes/article_8731359a-147c-11e5-9b5f-5baa3de96d01.html
    Reply
    heres an article stating the shady casinos

    https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/business/irs-wants-to-use-casino-comp-cards-to-track-taxes/article_8731359a-147c-11e5-9b5f-5baa3de96d01.html
     
    hillardoh1
    hillardoh1
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2013
    Posts: 2669
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 5:03 PM ET #22

    heres  what happened  the casinos won

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/dec/30/gaming-lobbyists-claim-victory-on-irs-rules-for-sl/
    Reply
    heres  what happened  the casinos won

    https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/dec/30/gaming-lobbyists-claim-victory-on-irs-rules-for-sl/
     
     
    skoda
    skoda
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2006
    Posts: 2161
    Posted: Mar. 21, 2017 - 5:06 PM ET #23

    Only play @ BA..... Live at Pocono means Casino, eventually.

    Napo Jr.here Not high on Ford as trainer was but not lately? Morrill has the chalks tonight
     
    Pocono tonight
     
    8 in 5th

    2 in 9th

    Dover 3rd 7 stays trotting wins 8yr. old should..........

    7/134
    Reply
    Only play @ BA..... Live at Pocono means Casino, eventually.

    Napo Jr.here Not high on Ford as trainer was but not lately? Morrill has the chalks tonight
     
    Pocono tonight
     
    8 in 5th

    2 in 9th

    Dover 3rd 7 stays trotting wins 8yr. old should..........

    7/134
    All Forums | Horse Racing

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 461,535
    • Serious Streak Survivor Strategies 1,918,425
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 275,487
    • PART DEUX 209
    • All About streak Survivor! 6,012
    • I'm embarrassed for Trump supporters 61,408
    • NFL LOCKED IN! 107,522
    • NCAA FOOTBALL. 151 43,845
    • Seahawks vs Broncos in-game live 1,179
    • Friday 10/16/2026 419

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Privacy Choices Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Covers Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.