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    sun mar26 sunland derby, kty derby stuff

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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 8:39 AM ET #1

    almost  april and the kty derby  is coming fast... today the 800k sunland derby  is  offering 50/20/10/5 ..   first four finishers  gaining  on a chance to make the first sat in may...full field of now 11  ,#7 kimbear was scratched.. go 1/1/8  in the  race9  today at  sunland park..  having bet only a handful of races in new mexico in my life ,i can preview this a bit  and maybe  take a stab  much later  in the day...  it is the last of the 50 /20/10/5  races..  next week  the fla derby and louisiana derby  both  for 1 mill are 100/40/20/10 pointers..that will be april  1st   next sat.  following  will be four more  of that magnitude. 3 races on april 8 and the ark derby  april 15..  so the racing should be pretty good..  its a tricky time for growing 3 yr olds,  looking at todays field  we have  6 that are eligible for nw of two  races, one maiden  irap the 5  who  has 8 points in standings.. only horse who has any in todays race..   the 1  shareholder value  has won twice as a two yr old .was 5th in a muddy lecomte with a bump to go with a very wide  break.. his 6th of 10 in the risen star  he didnt appear to have an excuse..  today  amoss  put  javier castellano  on board in a last ditch effort to get to derby.  they did team to win ohio deby last summer..  i kinda  like him....to at least run better..  #2  hedge fund  for pletcher and jose ortiz  come off a maiden win at gulfstream, the super saver colt had castellano on board in that win..  #3bronze age   for baffert and garcia,doesnt look like a real  bb  first stringer  but its hard to doubt  baffert..  he broke his maiden feb 18..#4  oxford lane  ,for kenny mcpeek and richard eramia, 4-1-2-1  life..  i will use  , a strong hunch  mcpeek on the right path to a good summer,  2nd yesterday in spiral, 3 rumored to be enterd in blue grass and ark.. and this one today... certainly  trying with some ok stock...5  irap  a maiden for  mario and doug o neill  has faced some quality, should be near pace..6  dillittante  nw of two in 9 tries, stevens and  lukas will try  anybody for a spot, check  for meds and  electrical  devices..7 is out   8  wine and devine  a sunland horse  10-1-6-0  life  i know nothing about.. 9   hence   ,asmussen runner was buzzing after a very green and troubled maiden win in hot springs ,got back to earth a bit  in southwest, in a wide journey..  do like his  future ,dont like  the cowboy steve put on him today... more in a few.  
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    almost  april and the kty derby  is coming fast... today the 800k sunland derby  is  offering 50/20/10/5 ..   first four finishers  gaining  on a chance to make the first sat in may...full field of now 11  ,#7 kimbear was scratched.. go 1/1/8  in the  race9  today at  sunland park..  having bet only a handful of races in new mexico in my life ,i can preview this a bit  and maybe  take a stab  much later  in the day...  it is the last of the 50 /20/10/5  races..  next week  the fla derby and louisiana derby  both  for 1 mill are 100/40/20/10 pointers..that will be april  1st   next sat.  following  will be four more  of that magnitude. 3 races on april 8 and the ark derby  april 15..  so the racing should be pretty good..  its a tricky time for growing 3 yr olds,  looking at todays field  we have  6 that are eligible for nw of two  races, one maiden  irap the 5  who  has 8 points in standings.. only horse who has any in todays race..   the 1  shareholder value  has won twice as a two yr old .was 5th in a muddy lecomte with a bump to go with a very wide  break.. his 6th of 10 in the risen star  he didnt appear to have an excuse..  today  amoss  put  javier castellano  on board in a last ditch effort to get to derby.  they did team to win ohio deby last summer..  i kinda  like him....to at least run better..  #2  hedge fund  for pletcher and jose ortiz  come off a maiden win at gulfstream, the super saver colt had castellano on board in that win..  #3bronze age   for baffert and garcia,doesnt look like a real  bb  first stringer  but its hard to doubt  baffert..  he broke his maiden feb 18..#4  oxford lane  ,for kenny mcpeek and richard eramia, 4-1-2-1  life..  i will use  , a strong hunch  mcpeek on the right path to a good summer,  2nd yesterday in spiral, 3 rumored to be enterd in blue grass and ark.. and this one today... certainly  trying with some ok stock...5  irap  a maiden for  mario and doug o neill  has faced some quality, should be near pace..6  dillittante  nw of two in 9 tries, stevens and  lukas will try  anybody for a spot, check  for meds and  electrical  devices..7 is out   8  wine and devine  a sunland horse  10-1-6-0  life  i know nothing about.. 9   hence   ,asmussen runner was buzzing after a very green and troubled maiden win in hot springs ,got back to earth a bit  in southwest, in a wide journey..  do like his  future ,dont like  the cowboy steve put on him today... more in a few.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 8:52 AM ET #2

    #10  balandeen  for chris hartman and channing hill,was a decent 2nd to mccraken in oct finishing ahead of guest suite the lecomte winner.. that in itself  along with two wins  may  put this bernadini colt  ahead of some of these, and  might get over looked..  11  total tap  for asmussen again and  geroux..  fresh off the gun runner 2nd in dubai  sat.  this guy is promising  having won on turf long and also in his last at the  big easy.. he looks  versatile to sit or  come from behind. his future  im  guessing  is  bright..  i will bounce  he and the 1 around to see who i would select to win today..  12  conquest mo money  the ny bred  3 for 3  at sunland  for jock  carreno and 21 percent  trainer hernandez , if he doesnt  get outclassed and bothered on the engine today  we might have  our pace in kty,,  but you can have  him.. i wont...  
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    #10  balandeen  for chris hartman and channing hill,was a decent 2nd to mccraken in oct finishing ahead of guest suite the lecomte winner.. that in itself  along with two wins  may  put this bernadini colt  ahead of some of these, and  might get over looked..  11  total tap  for asmussen again and  geroux..  fresh off the gun runner 2nd in dubai  sat.  this guy is promising  having won on turf long and also in his last at the  big easy.. he looks  versatile to sit or  come from behind. his future  im  guessing  is  bright..  i will bounce  he and the 1 around to see who i would select to win today..  12  conquest mo money  the ny bred  3 for 3  at sunland  for jock  carreno and 21 percent  trainer hernandez , if he doesnt  get outclassed and bothered on the engine today  we might have  our pace in kty,,  but you can have  him.. i wont...  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 8:59 AM ET #3

      i will box 1,4,10,11..  guessing on big and improving efforts   for these  four.  but it is certain grab bag  race.. 
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      i will box 1,4,10,11..  guessing on big and improving efforts   for these  four.  but it is certain grab bag  race.. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 9:27 AM ET #4

    kty  derby point  standings  

    thunder snow   uae derby  winner  sat.  100
    gunnevera  headed to fla derby  seems safe at 64
    tapwrit   maybe  the buegrass,  tampa star at 54
    j boys echo  romans charge headed to blue grass  53
    malagacy the rebel winner might try ark derby  50
    girvin  risen star winner for sharp will try  la  derby  50
    epicharis ,japan bred , sneaky ,well bred  in with 40 
    practical  joke ,brown runner  sitting on one.  fla derby ? 34
    untrapped asmussen got a few good ones, ark derby  34
    classsic empire , b cup champ has issues,blue grass will tell 32
    el areeb, lynch and trevor  headed to wood memorial 30
    gormley, shireffs and espinoza ,ok  s anita  derby  25 
    state of honor ,casse  ships tampa  to fla derby   22
    mc craken was 3 for 3 at churchill, continued sam davis win,  had a set back, will try  blue grass, hope hes ok  he sits on 20 

    the rest of the list  i hope to add  a little later... 

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    kty  derby point  standings  

    thunder snow   uae derby  winner  sat.  100
    gunnevera  headed to fla derby  seems safe at 64
    tapwrit   maybe  the buegrass,  tampa star at 54
    j boys echo  romans charge headed to blue grass  53
    malagacy the rebel winner might try ark derby  50
    girvin  risen star winner for sharp will try  la  derby  50
    epicharis ,japan bred , sneaky ,well bred  in with 40 
    practical  joke ,brown runner  sitting on one.  fla derby ? 34
    untrapped asmussen got a few good ones, ark derby  34
    classsic empire , b cup champ has issues,blue grass will tell 32
    el areeb, lynch and trevor  headed to wood memorial 30
    gormley, shireffs and espinoza ,ok  s anita  derby  25 
    state of honor ,casse  ships tampa  to fla derby   22
    mc craken was 3 for 3 at churchill, continued sam davis win,  had a set back, will try  blue grass, hope hes ok  he sits on 20 

    the rest of the list  i hope to add  a little later... 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 11:40 AM ET #5

    Phil, almost that time of year again bud.   Good Luck today.  
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    Phil, almost that time of year again bud.   Good Luck today.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 11:41 AM ET #6

    This 4 horse Oxford lane quite intriguing at a price. Alot of speed in this race and he should be off it I'd think. Put him in for a show spot or your super at a decent number.
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    This 4 horse Oxford lane quite intriguing at a price. Alot of speed in this race and he should be off it I'd think. Put him in for a show spot or your super at a decent number.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 1:54 PM ET #7

    rob   good luck always..  good time of year 

    continuing my point list ...  adding one i forgot  
     fast and accurate ,the maker spiral winner sat will be supplemented and be in the field..he got 50 points  

    master plan. 3rd in dubai  sat uae  race, doubt  pletcher will try the derby trail  ..  20
    iliad  once  bafferts, now in oneill barn.. s anita derby bound  20
    sonneteer ,maybe  both desormeauxs in ark derby  20
    blueridge traveler , 2nd in spiral for mcpeek   20
    cloud computing,2nd in gotham for c.brown...  the  wood 20
    wild shot ,failed at tampa, rusty arnold  .. 17
    guest suite  lecomte  winner  for neil howard, shoots higher in la derby  15
    petrov ,will try 4th hot spring stake ark derby  for moquett  13
    looking at lee,ashmussen runner might get respect in blue grass 12
    term of art..  o neill runner going to s anita derby  with  11
    one liner 3 for 3  pletcher runner  looks for points in the wood maybe  10
    irish war cry..  motion trys to rebound in wood  10
    mo town  ..  dutrow  trying wood also for needed points 10 
    three rules ..speedball  will try and steal fla derby  10
    royal  mo  shireffs  is not sure yet  sits at 10
    local  hero  ,asmussen again deserves a look in la derby 10

    others have  less ,others off the trail... here are a few  likely to get some points  soon......
        pletchers  always  dreaming  in fla derby, and  battalion runner  mentioned for s.anita derby   bafferts  reach the world  will need best  for s.anita  derby.  resiliency  1 for 2  asmussen guy  trying la derby
    mcpeek  looking for spots  for its your nickel,senior investment and pat on the back
    dale romans  might try  impressive edge in fla derby..
     should be interesting april..



               

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    rob   good luck always..  good time of year 

    continuing my point list ...  adding one i forgot  
     fast and accurate ,the maker spiral winner sat will be supplemented and be in the field..he got 50 points  

    master plan. 3rd in dubai  sat uae  race, doubt  pletcher will try the derby trail  ..  20
    iliad  once  bafferts, now in oneill barn.. s anita derby bound  20
    sonneteer ,maybe  both desormeauxs in ark derby  20
    blueridge traveler , 2nd in spiral for mcpeek   20
    cloud computing,2nd in gotham for c.brown...  the  wood 20
    wild shot ,failed at tampa, rusty arnold  .. 17
    guest suite  lecomte  winner  for neil howard, shoots higher in la derby  15
    petrov ,will try 4th hot spring stake ark derby  for moquett  13
    looking at lee,ashmussen runner might get respect in blue grass 12
    term of art..  o neill runner going to s anita derby  with  11
    one liner 3 for 3  pletcher runner  looks for points in the wood maybe  10
    irish war cry..  motion trys to rebound in wood  10
    mo town  ..  dutrow  trying wood also for needed points 10 
    three rules ..speedball  will try and steal fla derby  10
    royal  mo  shireffs  is not sure yet  sits at 10
    local  hero  ,asmussen again deserves a look in la derby 10

    others have  less ,others off the trail... here are a few  likely to get some points  soon......
        pletchers  always  dreaming  in fla derby, and  battalion runner  mentioned for s.anita derby   bafferts  reach the world  will need best  for s.anita  derby.  resiliency  1 for 2  asmussen guy  trying la derby
    mcpeek  looking for spots  for its your nickel,senior investment and pat on the back
    dale romans  might try  impressive edge in fla derby..
     should be interesting april..



               

     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 2:16 PM ET #8

    fai rgrounds  weather ok  today... 225est  
    race1  1,2,3  tri bx   all chalk
    race2   2,3,5  p4
    race3   3,5,6,7
    race4   3,7,8
    race5   3,7  
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    fai rgrounds  weather ok  today... 225est  
    race1  1,2,3  tri bx   all chalk
    race2   2,3,5  p4
    race3   3,5,6,7
    race4   3,7,8
    race5   3,7  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 2:19 PM ET #9

    phil
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 2:32 PM ET #10

    sunland  race  7 p4  50 cent
    r7  1,3,4
    r8  1,3
    r9  1,3,4,10,11
    r10  1,3

    golden gate  345est
    r1  1,2  dd
    r2   1,2,5  p4
    r3  1,5
    r4   2,4,6
    r5   4,5,6
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    sunland  race  7 p4  50 cent
    r7  1,3,4
    r8  1,3
    r9  1,3,4,10,11
    r10  1,3

    golden gate  345est
    r1  1,2  dd
    r2   1,2,5  p4
    r3  1,5
    r4   2,4,6
    r5   4,5,6
     
    vetdrm
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 2:34 PM ET #11

    Hi Phil
    Did  Castellano opt for Shareholder today or did Pletcher just find a better rider in Ortiz.
    Not sure what to make of it.
    Thanks
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    Hi Phil
    Did  Castellano opt for Shareholder today or did Pletcher just find a better rider in Ortiz.
    Not sure what to make of it.
    Thanks
     
    mikeyp1
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 2:47 PM ET #12

    Philly...really good analysis. I think you and I are on the same page with Shareholder Value. Now or never for him!
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    Philly...really good analysis. I think you and I are on the same page with Shareholder Value. Now or never for him!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 3:19 PM ET #13

    vetdrm ...  either way  pletcher   got  the gold with these  three, ortiz on tapwrit, johnny v  on anybody he wants probably. .. javier  might not move from gunnevera in  derby  ?  today  im gonna  guess  javier commited  before  pletcher  entered. this guy.  but i do believe its the jocks  that know  how good a horse is and whats under  them...  not agent  or middle of road trainers... real good trainers  just  fit them to a t and  tell them  ,heres how i want u to ride them
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    vetdrm ...  either way  pletcher   got  the gold with these  three, ortiz on tapwrit, johnny v  on anybody he wants probably. .. javier  might not move from gunnevera in  derby  ?  today  im gonna  guess  javier commited  before  pletcher  entered. this guy.  but i do believe its the jocks  that know  how good a horse is and whats under  them...  not agent  or middle of road trainers... real good trainers  just  fit them to a t and  tell them  ,heres how i want u to ride them
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2017 - 4:58 PM ET #14

    Good analogy. gl  pal
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    Good analogy. gl  pal
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