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    Degolep
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2016 - 5:07 PM ET #1

    I have just started with horse betting and as far as I know one of the big problems with horse racing is getting limited on bookies. How can I successfully bet on horses without to get limited fast? Which bookies to use? Which bookie to avoid? Or should I use only exchanges? 
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    I have just started with horse betting and as far as I know one of the big problems with horse racing is getting limited on bookies. How can I successfully bet on horses without to get limited fast? Which bookies to use? Which bookie to avoid? Or should I use only exchanges? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2016 - 11:35 PM ET #2

    You are always going to find better prices
    through the exchanges.
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    You are always going to find better prices
    through the exchanges.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 5:41 PM ET #3

    The only way to not get limited is to deposit in a legal horse racing site like Twinspires, Xpressbet, Tvg....

    All wagers at these sites go into the pool at each track.

    Good Luck!
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    The only way to not get limited is to deposit in a legal horse racing site like Twinspires, Xpressbet, Tvg....

    All wagers at these sites go into the pool at each track.

    Good Luck!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2016 - 9:25 PM ET #4

    Hi.
    I never bet on anything other that Betfair, but they say there starting prices are as good as any other bookmaker, is that true?
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    Hi.
    I never bet on anything other that Betfair, but they say there starting prices are as good as any other bookmaker, is that true?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 5:20 AM ET #5

    I presume you're from the UK? The game has changed over here. Bookies no longer want to lay a decent bet especially on horses and are wary of arbers. They just want mug punters wanting to play their FOBTs and sport bettors rather then any betting on horses.

    Quite simply, spread your stake to several bookies. Oddschecker have all the top bookies on there. Every bookie seem different though. I'm restricted with many of them and down to 5 bookies left who are willing to lay a good sized bet. It's a poor state of affairs but it is what it is. I do have Plan B and C in place however!

    I may be restricted with several bookies but there are some good ones out there who take a bet. I'm sure they track you online somehow and I can say they are welcome to. They will know I very rarely lay horses and have absolutely nothing that says I'm an arber. 

    Personally I rarely bet on the day anymore. The value lies in ante-post betting but even now, it's getting harder to find a value punt. For example, Altior was merely confirmed as going chasing last month and incredibly the bookies chopped him from 6/1 to 3/1 favourite for the Arkle on the mere news he was going chasing! Consider that race is 6 months away and you get the idea!

    Cheltenham Festival, Royal Ascot, the truly big Classic races are you best shots. If you're disciplined enough to want to take horse racing on a daily basis sifting through the mundane horses, then that's your prerogative but definitely not for me!

    As for exchange prices vs bookie prices, I'd say on average they're better BUT do not forget to factor in the 5% commission so for example, a 36.0 poke isn't a 35/1 shot but just under 33/1 though at those prices I'm sure you won't be moaning over a few points knocked off! 

    However, it's up to your style of staking. Personally I'm an EW man. I like my insurance. So bookies are good for that whereas if you're going win only, then it's up to you to shop about on Oddschecker and look for the best price. More often then not in the top part of the market, the bookies are as good as the exchanges. However the long shots tend to be much bigger on the exchanges.


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    I presume you're from the UK? The game has changed over here. Bookies no longer want to lay a decent bet especially on horses and are wary of arbers. They just want mug punters wanting to play their FOBTs and sport bettors rather then any betting on horses.

    Quite simply, spread your stake to several bookies. Oddschecker have all the top bookies on there. Every bookie seem different though. I'm restricted with many of them and down to 5 bookies left who are willing to lay a good sized bet. It's a poor state of affairs but it is what it is. I do have Plan B and C in place however!

    I may be restricted with several bookies but there are some good ones out there who take a bet. I'm sure they track you online somehow and I can say they are welcome to. They will know I very rarely lay horses and have absolutely nothing that says I'm an arber. 

    Personally I rarely bet on the day anymore. The value lies in ante-post betting but even now, it's getting harder to find a value punt. For example, Altior was merely confirmed as going chasing last month and incredibly the bookies chopped him from 6/1 to 3/1 favourite for the Arkle on the mere news he was going chasing! Consider that race is 6 months away and you get the idea!

    Cheltenham Festival, Royal Ascot, the truly big Classic races are you best shots. If you're disciplined enough to want to take horse racing on a daily basis sifting through the mundane horses, then that's your prerogative but definitely not for me!

    As for exchange prices vs bookie prices, I'd say on average they're better BUT do not forget to factor in the 5% commission so for example, a 36.0 poke isn't a 35/1 shot but just under 33/1 though at those prices I'm sure you won't be moaning over a few points knocked off! 

    However, it's up to your style of staking. Personally I'm an EW man. I like my insurance. So bookies are good for that whereas if you're going win only, then it's up to you to shop about on Oddschecker and look for the best price. More often then not in the top part of the market, the bookies are as good as the exchanges. However the long shots tend to be much bigger on the exchanges.


     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2016 - 5:22 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by redhook206:

    The only way to not get limited is to deposit in a legal horse racing site like Twinspires, Xpressbet, Tvg....

    All wagers at these sites go into the pool at each track.

    Good Luck!

    spot on. I doubt you'd be limited on American racing as they go into the pool. But if you're British, then you've got the best of betting in my view. No place, show stuff but the good old fashioned Each Way punt incorporating up to 5 places depending on handicap status and number of runners, all for the price of 1 bet and 1/4 odds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhook206:

    The only way to not get limited is to deposit in a legal horse racing site like Twinspires, Xpressbet, Tvg....

    All wagers at these sites go into the pool at each track.

    Good Luck!

    spot on. I doubt you'd be limited on American racing as they go into the pool. But if you're British, then you've got the best of betting in my view. No place, show stuff but the good old fashioned Each Way punt incorporating up to 5 places depending on handicap status and number of runners, all for the price of 1 bet and 1/4 odds!
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