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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:32 PM ET #1

    I'm changing it up again today. Instead of avoiding the chalk with my 1st pick, I'm picking who I think actually has the best chance to win.  We shall see?


    Gulfstream

    1-  3 5 7

    2-  5 4 3

    3-  3 6 1

    4-  2 7 4

    5-  2 1 7

    6-  1 4 7

    7-  5 1 6

    8-  6 3 2

    9-  7 6 8

    10-  5 1 3

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    I'm changing it up again today. Instead of avoiding the chalk with my 1st pick, I'm picking who I think actually has the best chance to win.  We shall see?


    Gulfstream

    1-  3 5 7

    2-  5 4 3

    3-  3 6 1

    4-  2 7 4

    5-  2 1 7

    6-  1 4 7

    7-  5 1 6

    8-  6 3 2

    9-  7 6 8

    10-  5 1 3

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:38 PM ET #2

    I like that approach, jr, I'll follow and tail where appropriate.  Best of luck today!
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    I like that approach, jr, I'll follow and tail where appropriate.  Best of luck today!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:38 PM ET #3

    Keeneland

    1-  1 5 3

    2-  2 6 3

    3-  8 6 7

    4-  1 6 4

    5-  6 5 9

    6-  3 1 5

    7-  1 2 7

    8-  6 3 2

    9-  1 2

    10-  11 6 4

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    Keeneland

    1-  1 5 3

    2-  2 6 3

    3-  8 6 7

    4-  1 6 4

    5-  6 5 9

    6-  3 1 5

    7-  1 2 7

    8-  6 3 2

    9-  1 2

    10-  11 6 4

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:40 PM ET #4

    Zuck,   What do deem appropriate, longer odds?
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    Zuck,   What do deem appropriate, longer odds?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:42 PM ET #5

    What do "YOU"
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:44 PM ET #6

    Aqueduct

    1-  1 4 8

    2-  5 2 6

    3-  5 6 2

    4-  3 2 4

    5-  6 3 7

    6-  5 6 2

    7-  4 9 8

    8-  4 2 7


    Good Luck all,           

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    Aqueduct

    1-  1 4 8

    2-  5 2 6

    3-  5 6 2

    4-  3 2 4

    5-  6 3 7

    6-  5 6 2

    7-  4 9 8

    8-  4 2 7


    Good Luck all,           

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:46 PM ET #7

    I prefer mid priced horses around to 5-1, especially in exacta wheels where favorite appear to be vulnerable.  As I have said, reward must be worth the risk, I very often stay from small fields with heavy favorite except to sometimes look for minus show pools.  I have seen too often with these short pried horses, you don't make enough in winnings to offset when they lose.  Of course, I really look for horses with what I believe to have a realistic chance to win, but figuring out how to bet them is crucial to any success.
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    I prefer mid priced horses around to 5-1, especially in exacta wheels where favorite appear to be vulnerable.  As I have said, reward must be worth the risk, I very often stay from small fields with heavy favorite except to sometimes look for minus show pools.  I have seen too often with these short pried horses, you don't make enough in winnings to offset when they lose.  Of course, I really look for horses with what I believe to have a realistic chance to win, but figuring out how to bet them is crucial to any success.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 12:49 PM ET #8

    Sorry about my bad typing, doing these between work things...
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    Sorry about my bad typing, doing these between work things...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 1:06 PM ET #9

    Zuck, thanks for the info. I don't think I'd put anything at less than 5/2 on top if I didn't have a decent payer in 2nd.

    I guess I still am a newbie to this game!

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    Zuck, thanks for the info. I don't think I'd put anything at less than 5/2 on top if I didn't have a decent payer in 2nd.

    I guess I still am a newbie to this game!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 1:22 PM ET #10

    Yeah, but I can tell you a good handicapper, you do need the money management skills or you can get hurt chasing losses.  I've seen so many people come and go from site here in the last 5 years. no doubt many gave up or went broke.  I never bet too much on one race, I enjoy the game and puzzle of handicapping....
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    Yeah, but I can tell you a good handicapper, you do need the money management skills or you can get hurt chasing losses.  I've seen so many people come and go from site here in the last 5 years. no doubt many gave up or went broke.  I never bet too much on one race, I enjoy the game and puzzle of handicapping....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 1:40 PM ET #11

    I have zero money management skills and don't bet much either.  I do love the challenge of handicapping. I really enjoy it, win or lose.

    I do not and will not bet every race because I've read somewhere that  " You can beat a race but you can't beat the races".

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    I have zero money management skills and don't bet much either.  I do love the challenge of handicapping. I really enjoy it, win or lose.

    I do not and will not bet every race because I've read somewhere that  " You can beat a race but you can't beat the races".

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 2:06 PM ET #12

    That's true, there are many other quips like that:

    "All horseplayers die broke"  (not true, I'm not broke yet)

    Even phrases used in politics like "photo finish" and "going down to the wire" come from racing, the sport of kings and queens.

    Here are some more:  "straight from the horses mouth" and "you can't beat a dead horse"  and some others which I can't think of right now.

    Great stuff, no?
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    That's true, there are many other quips like that:

    "All horseplayers die broke"  (not true, I'm not broke yet)

    Even phrases used in politics like "photo finish" and "going down to the wire" come from racing, the sport of kings and queens.

    Here are some more:  "straight from the horses mouth" and "you can't beat a dead horse"  and some others which I can't think of right now.

    Great stuff, no?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 2:11 PM ET #13

    Yep, good stuff.  But following the sage advice is easier said than done come race time!
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    Yep, good stuff.  But following the sage advice is easier said than done come race time!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 2:25 PM ET #14

    I'm gonna change a few 3 yr. old races today?

    GP

    7-  6 5 1

    9-  4 8 5


    KEE

    7-  1 7 8

    10-  6 2 11


    AQU

    7-  10 4 3


    Good Luck

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    I'm gonna change a few 3 yr. old races today?

    GP

    7-  6 5 1

    9-  4 8 5


    KEE

    7-  1 7 8

    10-  6 2 11


    AQU

    7-  10 4 3


    Good Luck

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 2:39 PM ET #15

    So true, jr.  Right when you are ready to pull the trigger on a bet, you start to think am I betting too much or too little or should play it another way.  There really is no such thing as a sure thing in horse racing even though it seems to many people I used to speak to at the track that their horse couldn't lose.  Of course after the race they seemed to forget how they had thought or had completely disappeared.....


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    So true, jr.  Right when you are ready to pull the trigger on a bet, you start to think am I betting too much or too little or should play it another way.  There really is no such thing as a sure thing in horse racing even though it seems to many people I used to speak to at the track that their horse couldn't lose.  Of course after the race they seemed to forget how they had thought or had completely disappeared.....


     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 3:02 PM ET #16

    I've never been to an actual race track.  I just play online.

    I do know that Delaware Park and Parx are the closest though.

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    I've never been to an actual race track.  I just play online.

    I do know that Delaware Park and Parx are the closest though.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 3:08 PM ET #17

    I used to go to the Meadowlands quite often.  Now I go maybe once or twice a year.  Monmouth every 4 or 5 years.  Lots of reasons, but I really lack the time to kill a night there anymore.
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    I used to go to the Meadowlands quite often.  Now I go maybe once or twice a year.  Monmouth every 4 or 5 years.  Lots of reasons, but I really lack the time to kill a night there anymore.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 3:38 PM ET #18

    I think my biggest problem now is separating tournament play and live plays.  I know the 2 are different but deciding between the 2 is quite difficult.

    At least I cashed a few bets in both today so I didn't go broke yet!

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    I think my biggest problem now is separating tournament play and live plays.  I know the 2 are different but deciding between the 2 is quite difficult.

    At least I cashed a few bets in both today so I didn't go broke yet!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 3:42 PM ET #19

    Hey, if anyone else has some input feel free to join in!   I'd love to learn all I can from anyone.
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    Hey, if anyone else has some input feel free to join in!   I'd love to learn all I can from anyone.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 4:07 PM ET #20

    Yeah, Mr. H hasn't been here in a little while, I have learned much from him and really I've been handicapping now since the mid 1980s.  I enjoy this forum a lot, there's so much nonsense and stupidity in the other forums here.  I've probably won a few bets I wouldn't have because I considered other opinions from here (doesn't mean I always agreed).  There will be good stuff here whm the triple crown comes around for sure, just a couple of weeks away....
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    Yeah, Mr. H hasn't been here in a little while, I have learned much from him and really I've been handicapping now since the mid 1980s.  I enjoy this forum a lot, there's so much nonsense and stupidity in the other forums here.  I've probably won a few bets I wouldn't have because I considered other opinions from here (doesn't mean I always agreed).  There will be good stuff here whm the triple crown comes around for sure, just a couple of weeks away....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2017 - 4:17 PM ET #21

    Wifey says I gotta go, but I AM the king of this castle  not.

     Zuck,  I must be nuts, senile or have Alzheimers but the Derby is just another betting race for me.  Yes, I'll probably spend a little more time on but a 2-1 or a 20-1 pays the same in any race.

      Guess I'm just a Grinch!

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    Wifey says I gotta go, but I AM the king of this castle  not.

     Zuck,  I must be nuts, senile or have Alzheimers but the Derby is just another betting race for me.  Yes, I'll probably spend a little more time on but a 2-1 or a 20-1 pays the same in any race.

      Guess I'm just a Grinch!

     
     
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    We'll chat again real soon....
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    We'll chat again real soon....
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