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    Classic Empire !!!!! Who is with me on this Champion

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    Gavinnick
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 5:05 PM ET #1

    Year of the true champion !!!!!!

    Going large on the win at 5-1 odds
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    Year of the true champion !!!!!!

    Going large on the win at 5-1 odds
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 5:52 PM ET #2

    At the moment, I have a bit of a lean toward Classic Empire, but let's see post draws and who ends up in the field, plus track conditions on race day. Just one key horse in the field or one key horse out of the field might make a big difference this year.

    There are so many people who are totally confused with this field, so I am going to guess that most of the marks, and maybe a few sharps too, will gravitate to Empire.

    No way he goes off at 5-1. I think his backers would be happy with 5-2/ 3-1 range and pray for underlings.

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    At the moment, I have a bit of a lean toward Classic Empire, but let's see post draws and who ends up in the field, plus track conditions on race day. Just one key horse in the field or one key horse out of the field might make a big difference this year.

    There are so many people who are totally confused with this field, so I am going to guess that most of the marks, and maybe a few sharps too, will gravitate to Empire.

    No way he goes off at 5-1. I think his backers would be happy with 5-2/ 3-1 range and pray for underlings.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 7:04 PM ET #3

    I gotta disagree Mikey and I don't take doing so lightly. 

    Absent injury or post position disaster, I predict Classic Empire will be the no better than 5-1 and may not be the favorite. 

    I see Always Dreaming, Irish War Cry at 5-1, Classic Empire all in the 5-1 range and McCraken at 7-1.

    Then I see no one else under 10-1 with Gunnevera the next choice in the 12-1 area. 




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    I gotta disagree Mikey and I don't take doing so lightly. 

    Absent injury or post position disaster, I predict Classic Empire will be the no better than 5-1 and may not be the favorite. 

    I see Always Dreaming, Irish War Cry at 5-1, Classic Empire all in the 5-1 range and McCraken at 7-1.

    Then I see no one else under 10-1 with Gunnevera the next choice in the 12-1 area. 




     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 7:40 PM ET #4

    No horse imo should be less then 5-1,but right now CE is 4-1 live odds.
    Its really a crap shoot guys.But I see better value on a few others
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    No horse imo should be less then 5-1,but right now CE is 4-1 live odds.
    Its really a crap shoot guys.But I see better value on a few others
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 8:44 PM ET #5

    If Gunnervera goes off at 12-1 I might have to take the rubber band off.
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    If Gunnervera goes off at 12-1 I might have to take the rubber band off.
     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 9:04 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Tygermyke:

    If Gunnervera goes off at 12-1 I might have to take the rubber band off.

    Rubber band off AND my Bar Mistvah money at 12-1 for me, Myke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tygermyke:

    If Gunnervera goes off at 12-1 I might have to take the rubber band off.

    Rubber band off AND my Bar Mistvah money at 12-1 for me, Myke

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 9:06 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    I gotta disagree Mikey and I don't take doing so lightly. 

    Absent injury or post position disaster, I predict Classic Empire will be the no better than 5-1 and may not be the favorite. 

    I see Always Dreaming, Irish War Cry at 5-1, Classic Empire all in the 5-1 range and McCraken at 7-1.

    Then I see no one else under 10-1 with Gunnevera the next choice in the 12-1 area. 





    AHHHHHH Brow....that's why they call it ParaMutual wagering! Side bet....I'll go 4-1 or better for a Covers handshake to the winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    I gotta disagree Mikey and I don't take doing so lightly. 

    Absent injury or post position disaster, I predict Classic Empire will be the no better than 5-1 and may not be the favorite. 

    I see Always Dreaming, Irish War Cry at 5-1, Classic Empire all in the 5-1 range and McCraken at 7-1.

    Then I see no one else under 10-1 with Gunnevera the next choice in the 12-1 area. 





    AHHHHHH Brow....that's why they call it ParaMutual wagering! Side bet....I'll go 4-1 or better for a Covers handshake to the winner.

     
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    Posted: May. 2, 2017 - 9:26 PM ET #8

    So many Good Horses in this years edition of the DERBY ...
    Classic Empire should be Chalky ... 



    He is  in my Top 4 choices , but I would not Back him at the ODDS I expect ( 4-1???) 





    Will use him the Exotics for sure ( along with 13+ others horses )



    BEST OF LUCK BROTHER 

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    So many Good Horses in this years edition of the DERBY ...
    Classic Empire should be Chalky ... 



    He is  in my Top 4 choices , but I would not Back him at the ODDS I expect ( 4-1???) 





    Will use him the Exotics for sure ( along with 13+ others horses )



    BEST OF LUCK BROTHER 

     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2017 - 7:11 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:


    AHHHHHH Brow....that's why they call it ParaMutual wagering! Side bet....I'll go 4-1 or better for a Covers handshake to the winner.


    Its a deal! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:


    AHHHHHH Brow....that's why they call it ParaMutual wagering! Side bet....I'll go 4-1 or better for a Covers handshake to the winner.


    Its a deal! 
     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2017 - 9:28 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Tygermyke:

    If Gunnervera goes off at 12-1 I might have to take the rubber band off.

    Gunnevera a 15-1!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tygermyke:

    If Gunnervera goes off at 12-1 I might have to take the rubber band off.

    Gunnevera a 15-1!!!!

     
     
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    Posted: May. 4, 2017 - 10:12 AM ET #11

    Gunnevera hasn't looked good since shipping to CD, I thought that watching him work and the a couple on track clockers made similar comments. He clearly is talented and has run fast enough previously to win this race. But take into account running style and a probable moderate pace and he's gonna have to run by CE and IWC. Tall task IMO.
    GL to ALL
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    Gunnevera hasn't looked good since shipping to CD, I thought that watching him work and the a couple on track clockers made similar comments. He clearly is talented and has run fast enough previously to win this race. But take into account running style and a probable moderate pace and he's gonna have to run by CE and IWC. Tall task IMO.
    GL to ALL
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