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    Belmont Stakes Notes and Odds

    Conley12
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    Conley12
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2017 - 5:49 PM ET #1

    I will update this page up until the big race. Feel free to comment your picks below or anything else that I have missed. GL in the Belmont!

    1 Twisted Tom- ML: 20-1

    New York bread colt has so far been in the winners circle 3 times but not against graded stakes fields.

    2 Tapwrit- ML: 6-1

    Had a bad trip in the Derby and broke bad as well in the Bluegrass at Keeneland. He needs to stay out of trouble if he wants to win.

    3 Gormley ML: 8-1

    Speed Figures has declined in every single start ever since he won in January at Santa Anita.

    4 J Boys Echo ML: 15-1

    He has the greatest closing speed in the race. Can he win though?

    5 Hollywood Handsome ML: 30-1

    Seems to be outclassed in this field. I think he is a bust in this race.

    6 Lookin At Lee ML: 5-1

    I don't like his running style but should be used in your exotic plays.

    7 Irish War Cry ML: 7-2* (*-Favourite)

    Curlin's son should rate this field with his "ware-down" speed and pace. A must-have in your picks.

    8 Senior Investment ML: 12-1

    This horse has improved in every race, but his running style may keep him too far back. Your decision if you want to play them.

    9 Meantime ML: 15-1

    Has loads of early speed, but he is not an American Pharoah. Last horse to go wire-to-wire was Da'Tara in 2008.

    10 Multiplier ML: 15-1

    A no show in the Preakness and also has bad pedigree concerns. Both his sire The Factor and his broodmare sire Trippi were both sprint horses.

    11 Epicharis ML: 4-1

    A 2nd Japanese horse to start in the Belmont since Lani came up 3rd in a well deserved race. This horse should have some money bet on him

    12 Patch ML: 12-1

    My favourite longshot play in the Derby and Belmont. He skipped the Preakness just like his sire Union Rags in 2012 and ended up winning the race. Like father like son?


    My Picks are to follow tomorrow morning/afternoon!

    Including Pick4's, Best bets and longshot plays

     



    Reply
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    I will update this page up until the big race. Feel free to comment your picks below or anything else that I have missed. GL in the Belmont!

    1 Twisted Tom- ML: 20-1

    New York bread colt has so far been in the winners circle 3 times but not against graded stakes fields.

    2 Tapwrit- ML: 6-1

    Had a bad trip in the Derby and broke bad as well in the Bluegrass at Keeneland. He needs to stay out of trouble if he wants to win.

    3 Gormley ML: 8-1

    Speed Figures has declined in every single start ever since he won in January at Santa Anita.

    4 J Boys Echo ML: 15-1

    He has the greatest closing speed in the race. Can he win though?

    5 Hollywood Handsome ML: 30-1

    Seems to be outclassed in this field. I think he is a bust in this race.

    6 Lookin At Lee ML: 5-1

    I don't like his running style but should be used in your exotic plays.

    7 Irish War Cry ML: 7-2* (*-Favourite)

    Curlin's son should rate this field with his "ware-down" speed and pace. A must-have in your picks.

    8 Senior Investment ML: 12-1

    This horse has improved in every race, but his running style may keep him too far back. Your decision if you want to play them.

    9 Meantime ML: 15-1

    Has loads of early speed, but he is not an American Pharoah. Last horse to go wire-to-wire was Da'Tara in 2008.

    10 Multiplier ML: 15-1

    A no show in the Preakness and also has bad pedigree concerns. Both his sire The Factor and his broodmare sire Trippi were both sprint horses.

    11 Epicharis ML: 4-1

    A 2nd Japanese horse to start in the Belmont since Lani came up 3rd in a well deserved race. This horse should have some money bet on him

    12 Patch ML: 12-1

    My favourite longshot play in the Derby and Belmont. He skipped the Preakness just like his sire Union Rags in 2012 and ended up winning the race. Like father like son?


    My Picks are to follow tomorrow morning/afternoon!

    Including Pick4's, Best bets and longshot plays

     



     
    vetdrm
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2017 - 8:36 PM ET #2

    I think the in last 1/8 mile you well have 100% of these running on empty. This is anybodys race no matter what you may have heard
    or feel. I see a bomb of a trifecta brewing gents.

    Wish the evil Empire would have run. Would have taken alot of other 
    peoples money.

    Gl Conley..Hope you hit pal
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    I think the in last 1/8 mile you well have 100% of these running on empty. This is anybodys race no matter what you may have heard
    or feel. I see a bomb of a trifecta brewing gents.

    Wish the evil Empire would have run. Would have taken alot of other 
    peoples money.

    Gl Conley..Hope you hit pal
     
    bobboonehater
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    Posted: Jun. 7, 2017 - 11:33 PM ET #3

    Ur wayyyy overating jboys closing. Leave him off
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    Ur wayyyy overating jboys closing. Leave him off
     
    Conley12
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2017 - 7:46 AM ET #4

    vetdrm Thank you sir! Good luck with your wagers! Hope you strike it big! 
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    vetdrm Thank you sir! Good luck with your wagers! Hope you strike it big! 
     
    Conley12
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2017 - 7:47 AM ET #5

    bobboonehater this is just my opinion so I can say whatever I want 
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    bobboonehater this is just my opinion so I can say whatever I want 
     
    rm990
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2017 - 9:21 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Conley12:

    I will update this page up until the big race. Feel free to comment your picks below or anything else that I have missed. GL in the Belmont!

    1 Twisted Tom- ML: 20-1

    New York bread colt has so far been in the winners circle 3 times but not against graded stakes fields.

    2 Tapwrit- ML: 6-1

    Had a bad trip in the Derby and broke bad as well in the Bluegrass at Keeneland. He needs to stay out of trouble if he wants to win.

    3 Gormley ML: 8-1

    Speed Figures has declined in every single start ever since he won in January at Santa Anita.

    4 J Boys Echo ML: 15-1

    He has the greatest closing speed in the race. Can he win though?

    5 Hollywood Handsome ML: 30-1

    Seems to be outclassed in this field. I think he is a bust in this race.

    6 Lookin At Lee ML: 5-1

    I don't like his running style but should be used in your exotic plays.

    7 Irish War Cry ML: 7-2* (*-Favourite)

    Curlin's son should rate this field with his "ware-down" speed and pace. A must-have in your picks.

    8 Senior Investment ML: 12-1

    This horse has improved in every race, but his running style may keep him too far back. Your decision if you want to play them.

    9 Meantime ML: 15-1

    Has loads of early speed, but he is not an American Pharoah. Last horse to go wire-to-wire was Da'Tara in 2008.

    10 Multiplier ML: 15-1

    A no show in the Preakness and also has bad pedigree concerns. Both his sire The Factor and his broodmare sire Trippi were both sprint horses.

    11 Epicharis ML: 4-1

    A 2nd Japanese horse to start in the Belmont since Lani came up 3rd in a well deserved race. This horse should have some money bet on him

    12 Patch ML: 12-1

    My favourite longshot play in the Derby and Belmont. He skipped the Preakness just like his sire Union Rags in 2012 and ended up winning the race. Like father like son?


    My Picks are to follow tomorrow morning/afternoon!

    Including Pick4's, Best bets and longshot plays

     




    Not saying I like Gormley but depending on which figures you use, he's either declining or he's circling back to a top.... I respect Beyer and he's a legend but for my money, the Thoro-graph figures are the absolute best tool for any serious handicapper. 

    Tapwrit seems very likely to "trip out" and he could even be ready for a career best. To me it's a 2 horse race between he and IWC.

    Good luck this weekend 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley12:

    I will update this page up until the big race. Feel free to comment your picks below or anything else that I have missed. GL in the Belmont!

    1 Twisted Tom- ML: 20-1

    New York bread colt has so far been in the winners circle 3 times but not against graded stakes fields.

    2 Tapwrit- ML: 6-1

    Had a bad trip in the Derby and broke bad as well in the Bluegrass at Keeneland. He needs to stay out of trouble if he wants to win.

    3 Gormley ML: 8-1

    Speed Figures has declined in every single start ever since he won in January at Santa Anita.

    4 J Boys Echo ML: 15-1

    He has the greatest closing speed in the race. Can he win though?

    5 Hollywood Handsome ML: 30-1

    Seems to be outclassed in this field. I think he is a bust in this race.

    6 Lookin At Lee ML: 5-1

    I don't like his running style but should be used in your exotic plays.

    7 Irish War Cry ML: 7-2* (*-Favourite)

    Curlin's son should rate this field with his "ware-down" speed and pace. A must-have in your picks.

    8 Senior Investment ML: 12-1

    This horse has improved in every race, but his running style may keep him too far back. Your decision if you want to play them.

    9 Meantime ML: 15-1

    Has loads of early speed, but he is not an American Pharoah. Last horse to go wire-to-wire was Da'Tara in 2008.

    10 Multiplier ML: 15-1

    A no show in the Preakness and also has bad pedigree concerns. Both his sire The Factor and his broodmare sire Trippi were both sprint horses.

    11 Epicharis ML: 4-1

    A 2nd Japanese horse to start in the Belmont since Lani came up 3rd in a well deserved race. This horse should have some money bet on him

    12 Patch ML: 12-1

    My favourite longshot play in the Derby and Belmont. He skipped the Preakness just like his sire Union Rags in 2012 and ended up winning the race. Like father like son?


    My Picks are to follow tomorrow morning/afternoon!

    Including Pick4's, Best bets and longshot plays

     




    Not saying I like Gormley but depending on which figures you use, he's either declining or he's circling back to a top.... I respect Beyer and he's a legend but for my money, the Thoro-graph figures are the absolute best tool for any serious handicapper. 

    Tapwrit seems very likely to "trip out" and he could even be ready for a career best. To me it's a 2 horse race between he and IWC.

    Good luck this weekend 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 8, 2017 - 9:32 AM ET #7

    Agree completely rm on top 2, the more I look at it.
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    Agree completely rm on top 2, the more I look at it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2017 - 10:29 AM ET #8

    7/8/12
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    7/8/12
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2017 - 3:20 PM ET #9


    As reported on this race is wide open 127/326/413/457/614/27-12 $2 win #12 for $20 
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    As reported on this race is wide open 127/326/413/457/614/27-12 $2 win #12 for $20 
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