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    BELMONT 5/10 Picks

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    Knicks950
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    Posted: May. 10, 2017 - 10:38 AM ET #1

    After an exciting derby weekend with a clear and undoubtedly track bias to inside speed (don't let any writers tell you different), we're back to Belmont!

    Before I post my picks and opinions, just a couple comments on the derby. First, I'm so happy for Always Dreaming and the connections. I had a special affinity for this horse going back to the beginning of the year, and particularly after his OC75 win leading up to the Florida Derby where I noticed the capabilities of this colt going forward. Never have I felt this strongly about a derby horse (outside of American Pharaoh) being the much best winner, and I put my money where my mouth was at 30/1 future bet before the Fla derby. Of course it's nice to cash a fat ticket like that, but as we all know this game is about forecasting, particularly for a derby horse where it's not about race dynamics and pace/flow etc, but about the potential and development of a horse, and to foresee this horse's development and be spot on, it's just a great feeling. I think he will have no problem beating the Preakness field with the main threat being Chad Brown's Cloud Computing, and it looks like Always Dreaming came out of the race in great shape, and I honestly don't think he even had to give his best on Saturday with plenty left in the tank. If he does his job, the Belmont will be an extremely tall task, but I will be there rooting for him all the way! 

    Ok, now that I've almost broken my arm patting myself on the back, below are my plays for the Belmont card today.

    GL to all and congrats to Always Dreaming, an impossible horse not to root for, and an impeccable name for a derby winner because let's face it...in life aren't we all ALWAYS DREAMING?! 

    race 1: 3 - AMERICAN PIONEER. process of elimination pretty much brings me to select the 3. He's the horse that could win by a mile. Huge class drop. Crappy race.
    race 2: 3 - VEIL. have a feeling Irad could get the early double. Veil to me has the most eligibility to improve and should be forward second off long layoff and as a 4yo against some younger. not impressed much by the field and in a race like this taking a short price is dangerous, so I will key the 3 in second in exacta as protection, and go deep in the pick 5, almost making the second leg of the early double a little bit of a hedge.  
    race 3: 6 - SADIE BE GOOD. I think this one is better than the rest. horse ran huge in a very fast race against better and I like the post being outside of the other speeds. Could get the lead or just sit right off of Bow town Cat. Lezcano back to ride and like how she got on the track last week. If the 6 doesn't win, you have to think there is a nice little duel between the 3,6 and possibly 2. For pace dynamics, if 6 isn't the speed of speed, have to side with 1 or 4.
    race 4: 5 - IF YOU SAY SO. Chad and Joel second off layoff and since entering his barn. First trip was troubled and she probably needed it anyway. I expect her to be more involved around the far turn since she was steadied in last when attempting that. The extra distance should help and six nice breezes should make her more than fit against a field logical choices that just dont wanna win. Second choice is Empress of the Nile, as I cannot see much speed in here and Rajiv should be able to control things up top. Gonna be tough to get by her if fractions are slow on this inner which should be fast by Wed, but ultimately I think the 5 is the class of the field. 
    race 5: 10 - SCARLET GODDESS. This is a personal redemption play for me. Last summer I was standing at the finish line with a live pick 5 that included her at 50/1 with a will pay of $22,000, and she ran her eyeballs out first time on turf off the claim for Gullo and got nosed on the final stride. Watching live I honestly thought she held on, but was beaten by the favorite with the lowest payout. Longest photo finish of my life! She finally gets back on turf today against a pretty weak field, and although there is more speed signed on today than last summer, I think she is more than capable of a winning effort. I also want to include FAUTIVE at a huge price. Last race was first time Chatterpaul got her on turf since the claim and it was a very wide trip, but she had a good run to her. Second on turf should be an improvement, and if Camacho can save ground this one could run big at a big price. 



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    After an exciting derby weekend with a clear and undoubtedly track bias to inside speed (don't let any writers tell you different), we're back to Belmont!

    Before I post my picks and opinions, just a couple comments on the derby. First, I'm so happy for Always Dreaming and the connections. I had a special affinity for this horse going back to the beginning of the year, and particularly after his OC75 win leading up to the Florida Derby where I noticed the capabilities of this colt going forward. Never have I felt this strongly about a derby horse (outside of American Pharaoh) being the much best winner, and I put my money where my mouth was at 30/1 future bet before the Fla derby. Of course it's nice to cash a fat ticket like that, but as we all know this game is about forecasting, particularly for a derby horse where it's not about race dynamics and pace/flow etc, but about the potential and development of a horse, and to foresee this horse's development and be spot on, it's just a great feeling. I think he will have no problem beating the Preakness field with the main threat being Chad Brown's Cloud Computing, and it looks like Always Dreaming came out of the race in great shape, and I honestly don't think he even had to give his best on Saturday with plenty left in the tank. If he does his job, the Belmont will be an extremely tall task, but I will be there rooting for him all the way! 

    Ok, now that I've almost broken my arm patting myself on the back, below are my plays for the Belmont card today.

    GL to all and congrats to Always Dreaming, an impossible horse not to root for, and an impeccable name for a derby winner because let's face it...in life aren't we all ALWAYS DREAMING?! 

    race 1: 3 - AMERICAN PIONEER. process of elimination pretty much brings me to select the 3. He's the horse that could win by a mile. Huge class drop. Crappy race.
    race 2: 3 - VEIL. have a feeling Irad could get the early double. Veil to me has the most eligibility to improve and should be forward second off long layoff and as a 4yo against some younger. not impressed much by the field and in a race like this taking a short price is dangerous, so I will key the 3 in second in exacta as protection, and go deep in the pick 5, almost making the second leg of the early double a little bit of a hedge.  
    race 3: 6 - SADIE BE GOOD. I think this one is better than the rest. horse ran huge in a very fast race against better and I like the post being outside of the other speeds. Could get the lead or just sit right off of Bow town Cat. Lezcano back to ride and like how she got on the track last week. If the 6 doesn't win, you have to think there is a nice little duel between the 3,6 and possibly 2. For pace dynamics, if 6 isn't the speed of speed, have to side with 1 or 4.
    race 4: 5 - IF YOU SAY SO. Chad and Joel second off layoff and since entering his barn. First trip was troubled and she probably needed it anyway. I expect her to be more involved around the far turn since she was steadied in last when attempting that. The extra distance should help and six nice breezes should make her more than fit against a field logical choices that just dont wanna win. Second choice is Empress of the Nile, as I cannot see much speed in here and Rajiv should be able to control things up top. Gonna be tough to get by her if fractions are slow on this inner which should be fast by Wed, but ultimately I think the 5 is the class of the field. 
    race 5: 10 - SCARLET GODDESS. This is a personal redemption play for me. Last summer I was standing at the finish line with a live pick 5 that included her at 50/1 with a will pay of $22,000, and she ran her eyeballs out first time on turf off the claim for Gullo and got nosed on the final stride. Watching live I honestly thought she held on, but was beaten by the favorite with the lowest payout. Longest photo finish of my life! She finally gets back on turf today against a pretty weak field, and although there is more speed signed on today than last summer, I think she is more than capable of a winning effort. I also want to include FAUTIVE at a huge price. Last race was first time Chatterpaul got her on turf since the claim and it was a very wide trip, but she had a good run to her. Second on turf should be an improvement, and if Camacho can save ground this one could run big at a big price. 



     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2017 - 10:39 AM ET #2

    race 6: 1 - PRIVY COUNCIL. Horse hasn't raced in over a year, but in Todd we trust. Could be Javy's free cherry of the day returning to this one. Last time he had a long layoff he improved over 40 beyer points, so back to what he's bred for in this 6f sprint and if ready to rock, could just be too good for a field full of firsters, many who might be looking for turf. Chad horses and the 6 obviously the threats if the 1 needs one. Watch if heavy steam anywhere and try to get info on firsters. 
    race 7: 6 - SHADOW RIDER/ 7 - ARE WE NOT MEN. Broke horribly when trying a higher level, and this is my best shot to go against the 7 who is clearly the most likely winner. I just hate taking favorites like this in the claiming ranks. Rudy and Irad going for 3 in a row and not much in here, although there are plenty off claim or two off claim which makes it tricky cause of potential form/running style changes. I think the three works since last and extra 1/2f should improve his form which has been solid since coming on dirt. My method of thinking is essentially a procss of elimination: I dont trust claiming off Linda Rice and winning, so that kills the 1 and 8. The 2 and 3 look a bit out-classed and out of form. The 4,5,6 are all taking somewhat desperate plunges in class with poor recent form. And that leaves the 7, who also has a nice tactical advantage looking to sit off the 1 on the front end. 
    race 8: 1 - AWESOME SONG. Love Lynch taking the blinkers off here and Javy picking up the ride. I think this horse is steadily improving and now we hit third start off long layoff with new trainer, and I think he can sit a nice forward trip maybe a bit more relaxed with the blinkers off and have more punch late. Doesn't need the lead but if Javy feels that's best then its a possibility, especially with not much early foot signed on. Most likely sitting forward and saving ground. I'm gonna take a stand against the favorites here and trust they need one off their respected layoffs. Vagabond missed his start in Keeneland due to a foot issue, and War Queen also had a minor setback. Penjade is back for her first start this year so maybe she isn't her tightest today. My second choice and must use in exotics and sequences is the 5 SCHEME. He was troubled in last just when making his move, and couldve needed that off the 3 month layoff. That race to me is very strong and he could prove to have a class edge over this field if improved.
    race 9: 5 - DOUBLE DOSE. Jacobson off the claim looks to be live here going back to turf. Like how he worked three times and also beyer fig down cause of slow fractions in last where he won very convincingly and looks to be in sharp form. Should be forwardly placed not far off the lead and provide a nice price in this tricky turf sprint. Play the favorite FIVE HEARTS defensively as he looks well meant and towers over the field beyer figure wise, and also the 7 off the claim. 

    GRADE A BETS:
    RACE 4: WIN - 5 - IF YOU SAY SO.   EXACTA: 1,2/5
    RACE 8: WIN/PLACE - 1 - AWESOME SONG.

    GRADE B BETS:
    RACE 3: WIN - 6 - SADIE BE GOOD. 
    RACE 5: WIN/PLACE - 10 - SCARLET GODDESS. 
    RACE 9: WIN/PLACE - 5 - DOUBLE DOSE.  EXACTA: 4/5,7

    SEQUENCES:
    RACE 1: PICK 5: 3/ALL/6/5/2,4,6,7,8,9,10,11  $32
                 DOUBLE: 3/3
    RACE 6: PICK 4: 1,5,6,8/ALL/1/1,4,5,7  $64
                 PICK 4: 1,5,6,8/6,7/1,4,5,9/4,5  $32
                 PICK 4: 1/6,7/1,4,5,9/1,4,5,7     $16
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    race 6: 1 - PRIVY COUNCIL. Horse hasn't raced in over a year, but in Todd we trust. Could be Javy's free cherry of the day returning to this one. Last time he had a long layoff he improved over 40 beyer points, so back to what he's bred for in this 6f sprint and if ready to rock, could just be too good for a field full of firsters, many who might be looking for turf. Chad horses and the 6 obviously the threats if the 1 needs one. Watch if heavy steam anywhere and try to get info on firsters. 
    race 7: 6 - SHADOW RIDER/ 7 - ARE WE NOT MEN. Broke horribly when trying a higher level, and this is my best shot to go against the 7 who is clearly the most likely winner. I just hate taking favorites like this in the claiming ranks. Rudy and Irad going for 3 in a row and not much in here, although there are plenty off claim or two off claim which makes it tricky cause of potential form/running style changes. I think the three works since last and extra 1/2f should improve his form which has been solid since coming on dirt. My method of thinking is essentially a procss of elimination: I dont trust claiming off Linda Rice and winning, so that kills the 1 and 8. The 2 and 3 look a bit out-classed and out of form. The 4,5,6 are all taking somewhat desperate plunges in class with poor recent form. And that leaves the 7, who also has a nice tactical advantage looking to sit off the 1 on the front end. 
    race 8: 1 - AWESOME SONG. Love Lynch taking the blinkers off here and Javy picking up the ride. I think this horse is steadily improving and now we hit third start off long layoff with new trainer, and I think he can sit a nice forward trip maybe a bit more relaxed with the blinkers off and have more punch late. Doesn't need the lead but if Javy feels that's best then its a possibility, especially with not much early foot signed on. Most likely sitting forward and saving ground. I'm gonna take a stand against the favorites here and trust they need one off their respected layoffs. Vagabond missed his start in Keeneland due to a foot issue, and War Queen also had a minor setback. Penjade is back for her first start this year so maybe she isn't her tightest today. My second choice and must use in exotics and sequences is the 5 SCHEME. He was troubled in last just when making his move, and couldve needed that off the 3 month layoff. That race to me is very strong and he could prove to have a class edge over this field if improved.
    race 9: 5 - DOUBLE DOSE. Jacobson off the claim looks to be live here going back to turf. Like how he worked three times and also beyer fig down cause of slow fractions in last where he won very convincingly and looks to be in sharp form. Should be forwardly placed not far off the lead and provide a nice price in this tricky turf sprint. Play the favorite FIVE HEARTS defensively as he looks well meant and towers over the field beyer figure wise, and also the 7 off the claim. 

    GRADE A BETS:
    RACE 4: WIN - 5 - IF YOU SAY SO.   EXACTA: 1,2/5
    RACE 8: WIN/PLACE - 1 - AWESOME SONG.

    GRADE B BETS:
    RACE 3: WIN - 6 - SADIE BE GOOD. 
    RACE 5: WIN/PLACE - 10 - SCARLET GODDESS. 
    RACE 9: WIN/PLACE - 5 - DOUBLE DOSE.  EXACTA: 4/5,7

    SEQUENCES:
    RACE 1: PICK 5: 3/ALL/6/5/2,4,6,7,8,9,10,11  $32
                 DOUBLE: 3/3
    RACE 6: PICK 4: 1,5,6,8/ALL/1/1,4,5,7  $64
                 PICK 4: 1,5,6,8/6,7/1,4,5,9/4,5  $32
                 PICK 4: 1/6,7/1,4,5,9/1,4,5,7     $16
     
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