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Sheamus Wins Elimination Chamber -900
Field Wins Elimination Chamber +500
Not sure if Sheamus is the clear cut winner here but you could make a case for a lot of guys in this match. Before Daniel Bryan went down, he was the Champion which means they wanted to have 2 faces as the Intercontinental and US Champs. Cena's title isn't on the line so you can have Ryback win (who is surprisingly on the poster) or have Dolph Ziggler win who is always over with the crowd and is now matched up with Lana. And if Lana is expected to get a huge face push, then teaming her with Ziggler is perfect. They could also have Barrett win to branch off his King of the Ring win and the fact that he never technically lost the title but I think him being "King" is good enough with a title. Rusev is still questionable for this match but if he's involved, I can see he and Ziggler negate each other. I can't see Rusev winning and going from the US Title to another belt so quickly. And R-Truth won't win.

Kofi Kingston & Big E Win Tag Team EC -300
Field Wins Tag Team EC +220
The only real team that could win here for the field option is Kidd and Cesaro and I think it's a possibility. Dare they have 2 heels win BOTH Elimination Chamber matches? I don't know but I see serious odds in blindly taking both fields.

John Cena -260
Kevin Owens +180
This is a tough one. Although Cena had his win against Rusev and has been winning every Raw in his open challenge...he's been putting guys over. He's never been one to dominate an opponent but how far does he go in letting NXT guys and even Ryder take him to the limit every night? He won't dominate Owens, either, but this is a tough one to call with the US Title not on the line and Owens just signing a main-roster contract this week so he'll lose his NXT Title to Finn Balor soon enough. I think Cena wins this match like he has won all of his US Open Challenges.

Seth Rollins -750
Dean Ambrose +450
Ambrose can win by DQ but I don't think they'd go that route. I think that feud ends soon. Rollins keeps the title.

Naomi +170
Nikki Bella or Paige -230
Makes sense to finish the push and make Naomi the champion.

Neville -600
Bo Dallas +400
Neville wins.
 
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I think Owens gets put over in this one. Hit the line when it came out at +220
 
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Sheamus -530/+350

Kofi/Big E -180/+140

Cena -210/+160

Seth -750/+450

Naomi +110/-150

Neville -750/+450
 
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Cena will beat owens.. owens has squashed cena twice already.. ambrose will win MITB probably.. but I look at him like the marty jennetty to seth rollins' toned down version of heel hbk.. 

Which brings me to something I've noticed with booking lately.. It seems Vince and Hunter are just rolling with every attitude era fued/stunt....

Rusev Lana = mero sable 

Ambrose cuffed and arrested by authority=see stone cold steve austin

Heel Rollins = toned down Heel HBK 

Creative is either running out of ideas or heading back towards PG-13 which made it great. 

All we need now is a hogan = Cena heel turn 

 
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Here's all you need to know about why Cena will win: merchandising.

Cena is the WWE's cash cow of merchandizing.

He currently wears a shirt that says "The Champ is Here" and an arrow that points to the US title belt.

It's a popular shirt and the WWE basically just released it since he won the title. Lose the title, that shirt goes down the hopper....along with all the money it makes.

Not only that, but the Cena Open US challenge is quite popular among marks and smarks.

Not only that but Owens squashed him on Raw.

Cena puts a lot of people over...but he is not giving up this belt to Owens.

 

There is one caveat I'd be afraid of: Samoa Joe. He could get involved somehow and have the match result in a DQ of some sort and Owens goes over.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by nikki_santoro:

Cena will beat owens.. owens has squashed cena twice already.. ambrose will win MITB probably.. but I look at him like the marty jennetty to seth rollins' toned down version of heel hbk.. 

Which brings me to something I've noticed with booking lately.. It seems Vince and Hunter are just rolling with every attitude era fued/stunt....

Rusev Lana = mero sable 

Ambrose cuffed and arrested by authority=see stone cold steve austin

Heel Rollins = toned down Heel HBK 

Creative is either running out of ideas or heading back towards PG-13 which made it great. 

All we need now is a hogan = Cena heel turn 


The only problem is that when Ambrose got arrested...the first thing I said is "he's coming back driving the truck." It's TOO predictable. 

Good comparisons, though. They just have no competition so there's no need to fully go that route and doing some of those storylines while having a PG way about it just won't work for me.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

Here's all you need to know about why Cena will win: merchandising.

Cena is the WWE's cash cow of merchandizing.

He currently wears a shirt that says "The Champ is Here" and an arrow that points to the US title belt.

It's a popular shirt and the WWE basically just released it since he won the title. Lose the title, that shirt goes down the hopper....along with all the money it makes.

Not only that, but the Cena Open US challenge is quite popular among marks and smarks.

Not only that but Owens squashed him on Raw.

Cena puts a lot of people over...but he is not giving up this belt to Owens.

 

There is one caveat I'd be afraid of: Samoa Joe. He could get involved somehow and have the match result in a DQ of some sort and Owens goes over.


Actually...the caveat you should be afraid of is that this isn't a title match 

Cena's matches with these NXT guys have been good showings for the new guys so I'm interested in this one. I only saw the Kevin Owens match at Takeover and that wasn't much of a match.

I think I might just take Cesar/Kidd and the "Field" against Sheamus and hope both heels don't win the titles/chamber matches. Naomi is also the "favorite" so if all of the favorites cash...we'll have 4 heel champions and Cena? That doesn't happen often, does it?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


Actually...the caveat you should be afraid of is that this isn't a title match 

Cena's matches with these NXT guys have been good showings for the new guys so I'm interested in this one. I only saw the Kevin Owens match at Takeover and that wasn't much of a match.

I think I might just take Cesar/Kidd and the "Field" against Sheamus and hope both heels don't win the titles/chamber matches. Naomi is also the "favorite" so if all of the favorites cash...we'll have 4 heel champions and Cena? That doesn't happen often, does it?

Actually...the caveat you should be afraid of is that this isn't a title match.

Not a title match huh? Nice. Ya know, I've been in and out of Raw since WM and now the WWE has the stones to put a non-title match on a PPV. Wonderful. Didn't think they would do that and now you've confirmed it.

Well forget everything I said then. Why put Cena over in a non-title match? The entire point of leaving the title on the shelf is to give the other guy the shot at legitimacy and to get an eventual title shot.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


Actually...the caveat you should be afraid of is that this isn't a title match 

Cena's matches with these NXT guys have been good showings for the new guys so I'm interested in this one. I only saw the Kevin Owens match at Takeover and that wasn't much of a match.

I think I might just take Cesar/Kidd and the "Field" against Sheamus and hope both heels don't win the titles/chamber matches. Naomi is also the "favorite" so if all of the favorites cash...we'll have 4 heel champions and Cena? That doesn't happen often, does it?

I don't know, if Sheamus doesn't win this then what? They must have promised him something with his look revamp. And when lines get to -900 this early, results have typically leaked (except for Brock Taker but that was a switch within an hour or two of the match.).

 
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Yea...they're billing it as a "Champion v Champion" match. And lets not forget that this is the 2nd PPV in 3 Sundays. I guess it doesn't make too much sense for this to be a non-title fight because given he was offered the title match on Raw...but he did decline it because he has his "own title." But it is what it is.

It's true with Sheamus. But I wouldn't look too much into that line right now given history. Sting was another guy who was a big favorite all the way up until shortly before WM. Still too early to let lines dictate the outcome. That'll come around 7 when they all go into the thousands.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

Yea...they're billing it as a "Champion v Champion" match. And lets not forget that this is the 2nd PPV in 3 Sundays. I guess it doesn't make too much sense for this to be a non-title fight because given he was offered the title match on Raw...but he did decline it because he has his "own title." But it is what it is.

It's true with Sheamus. But I wouldn't look too much into that line right now given history. Sting was another guy who was a big favorite all the way up until shortly before WM. Still too early to let lines dictate the outcome. That'll come around 7 when they all go into the thousands.

I said I was out of the Raw loop a bit so I should know what you are telling me.

But now after everything you said, it looks like Owens has tremendous value be it pin or most likely DQ.

An Owens win enhances the NXT brand and if Owens goes over big enough with the crowd, they'll just shift him to the main roster in a few weeks/months after he drops the title.

Plus Cena just won three PPV's in a row against one of the top guys in the company in Rusev so laying down for Owens (and as you noted, Cena is one of the only guys who doesn't mind laying down for younger talent) makes sense.

Actually liking Owens a lot right now at +180.

 
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Owens also signed a main-roster contract this week so he'll be dropping the NXT title and coming up soon.
 
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Owens comes through! Not sure why they'd bring him to the main roster so soon but
 
 
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Ryback finally gets a title. I'm ok with that. And I see the correlation of him on the poster and him winning the title came into play. That's interesting.
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