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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2014 - 2:24 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    that's 100% false, at least your first sentence (your second sentence is partly true).  it does not matter what the charge is.  once an arrest is made, the case belongs to the state.  the state decides whether or not to file charges. 

    now, in that scenario if you punch me in the face, and the police show up, they can ask me if i want to press charges and if i say no, they can decide not to arrest me, but that is 100% the state's decision.  the state is free to follow my wishes or ignore them. 

    now, i've heard some states have a stupid rule where if the police are called out to a domestic violence situation, they have to arrest someone.  but, in practice they don't always follow this and even if they arrest someone, that's not the same as charging someone. 

    but in any case, whether to press charges is always the state's decision.  they can sort of delegate it to the victim if they want, but they make the ultimate decision.
    I should have made my first sentence more clear, I was talking about a victim, not a domestic victim. In NY the state presses charges in domestic situations regardless of the victim's wishes. That is not the case in non domestic "scuffles", at least not when I was a cop in NY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    that's 100% false, at least your first sentence (your second sentence is partly true).  it does not matter what the charge is.  once an arrest is made, the case belongs to the state.  the state decides whether or not to file charges. 

    now, in that scenario if you punch me in the face, and the police show up, they can ask me if i want to press charges and if i say no, they can decide not to arrest me, but that is 100% the state's decision.  the state is free to follow my wishes or ignore them. 

    now, i've heard some states have a stupid rule where if the police are called out to a domestic violence situation, they have to arrest someone.  but, in practice they don't always follow this and even if they arrest someone, that's not the same as charging someone. 

    but in any case, whether to press charges is always the state's decision.  they can sort of delegate it to the victim if they want, but they make the ultimate decision.
    I should have made my first sentence more clear, I was talking about a victim, not a domestic victim. In NY the state presses charges in domestic situations regardless of the victim's wishes. That is not the case in non domestic "scuffles", at least not when I was a cop in NY.
     
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    yeah, i've heard some states have this policy where they either have to arrest someone if the police get called out to a domestic violence call or the state will, as a practice, file charges despite the victim's protests.  i think these blanket policies are ad, but these situations are tough.

    you are right, regular battery cases are treated differently than domestic violence cases.  most people aren't out there punching other unrelated people for no reason so it's easier for the police/state to let it go if the victims wants them to.  on the other hand, there are a lot of people who regularly beat up their wives, girlfriends or baby mommas and know they often have the power over the victim to get them to tell the police they don't want to press charges.  if that's all it took to get the case dropped, that creates a very dangerous situation for a lot of women out there. 
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    yeah, i've heard some states have this policy where they either have to arrest someone if the police get called out to a domestic violence call or the state will, as a practice, file charges despite the victim's protests.  i think these blanket policies are ad, but these situations are tough.

    you are right, regular battery cases are treated differently than domestic violence cases.  most people aren't out there punching other unrelated people for no reason so it's easier for the police/state to let it go if the victims wants them to.  on the other hand, there are a lot of people who regularly beat up their wives, girlfriends or baby mommas and know they often have the power over the victim to get them to tell the police they don't want to press charges.  if that's all it took to get the case dropped, that creates a very dangerous situation for a lot of women out there. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2014 - 3:19 PM ET #28

    Key piece of information missing from here is that he beat up another man in the apartment before throwing him out then turning his fists on the girl.  That is why he was charged twice with some of the crimes. 
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    Key piece of information missing from here is that he beat up another man in the apartment before throwing him out then turning his fists on the girl.  That is why he was charged twice with some of the crimes. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2014 - 4:39 PM ET #29

    Club---have you seen the pictures or read her statement yet?
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    Club---have you seen the pictures or read her statement yet?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2014 - 5:16 PM ET #30

    just read it.  that's pretty brutal.  might have to amend my earlier estimate.

    but to go back to what we were talking about.  let's say for whatever reason (wouldn't be unheard of), in a couple of weeks she tells the state she doesn't want to press charges.  they don't need her.  they have her statement, pictures, medical records and a witness. plus, this war machine idiot basically admitted to at least being there and something happening.  they can make her come to court and answer questions.  how can she explain away all of this.  or, they could prosecute the case without her, although they'd normally go with the first option.


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    just read it.  that's pretty brutal.  might have to amend my earlier estimate.

    but to go back to what we were talking about.  let's say for whatever reason (wouldn't be unheard of), in a couple of weeks she tells the state she doesn't want to press charges.  they don't need her.  they have her statement, pictures, medical records and a witness. plus, this war machine idiot basically admitted to at least being there and something happening.  they can make her come to court and answer questions.  how can she explain away all of this.  or, they could prosecute the case without her, although they'd normally go with the first option.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2014 - 7:24 PM ET #31

    Gotcha ---thanks    No word I heard from third person---so yeah could be interesting.
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    Gotcha ---thanks    No word I heard from third person---so yeah could be interesting.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2014 - 10:25 AM ET #32

    Dog Chapman now sez he's going after War Machine....
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    Dog Chapman now sez he's going after War Machine....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2014 - 11:51 AM ET #33

    I hope Dog nails him. I despise women beaters. ...
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    I hope Dog nails him. I despise women beaters. ...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2014 - 3:46 PM ET #34

    agreed  I loathe them as well
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    agreed  I loathe them as well
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 5:36 PM ET #35

    pretty fawked up garbage...he beat her to a pulp
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    pretty fawked up garbage...he beat her to a pulp
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 8:14 PM ET #36

    Would never argue with CD about legal/prison/religion issues,, why he works in the prison system and assumes the other 97% are just as nasty as the fkd up 3% he works with,,, what a guy
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    Would never argue with CD about legal/prison/religion issues,, why he works in the prison system and assumes the other 97% are just as nasty as the fkd up 3% he works with,,, what a guy
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2014 - 8:51 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by SashimiKid:

    Would never argue with CD about legal/prison/religion issues,, why he works in the prison system and assumes the other 97% are just as nasty as the fkd up 3% he works with,,, what a guy


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    Quote Originally Posted by SashimiKid:

    Would never argue with CD about legal/prison/religion issues,, why he works in the prison system and assumes the other 97% are just as nasty as the fkd up 3% he works with,,, what a guy


     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2014 - 4:45 AM ET #38

    He's the stupidest guy on this site who knows nothing about this.
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    He's the stupidest guy on this site who knows nothing about this.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2014 - 5:57 AM ET #39

    She has a horrendous personality and is a very mediocre performer, When you hang about with the wrong crowd don't be surprised when you get burned from time to time, No sympathy whatsoever for the w-hore.
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    She has a horrendous personality and is a very mediocre performer, When you hang about with the wrong crowd don't be surprised when you get burned from time to time, No sympathy whatsoever for the w-hore.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2014 - 6:00 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by smarterthanyou:

    He's the stupidest guy on this site who knows nothing about this.

    He also happens to be the Lionel Messi of Christian bashers, He's so good when it comes to that, On the other hand J-ews/Muslims bashing? He might be the Jamarcus Russell in that department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarterthanyou:

    He's the stupidest guy on this site who knows nothing about this.

    He also happens to be the Lionel Messi of Christian bashers, He's so good when it comes to that, On the other hand J-ews/Muslims bashing? He might be the Jamarcus Russell in that department.

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