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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 9:25 AM ET #1

    be obsolete! Distance learning is here to stay, and IS the wave ot  the future.
     
     Deal with it!  I took online classes myself and I LOVED IT.
     
    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear. 
     
    How do you beat that? 
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    be obsolete! Distance learning is here to stay, and IS the wave ot  the future.
     
     Deal with it!  I took online classes myself and I LOVED IT.
     
    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear. 
     
    How do you beat that? 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 9:39 AM ET #2

    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear.
     
    I did the same thing at the City College of New York.
     
    Is that why I was expelled?
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    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear.
     
    I did the same thing at the City College of New York.
     
    Is that why I was expelled?
     
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    what are you studying?
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    what are you studying?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 11:52 AM ET #4

    Do people laugh when they see that you have a diploma from Devry?
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    Do people laugh when they see that you have a diploma from Devry?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 12:12 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Fugettaboutit:

    Do people laugh when they see that you have a diploma from Devry?

    sorry that was a dickhead comment, I went to a shitty college myself and can't talk.Online might be easier but you're missing out on the best part of college.Parties and getting laid.

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    Do people laugh when they see that you have a diploma from Devry?

    sorry that was a dickhead comment, I went to a shitty college myself and can't talk.Online might be easier but you're missing out on the best part of college.Parties and getting laid.

     
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    I think taking some classes this way is fine, but going to class and interacting, etc. is part of the education.  What about things like group projects?  Traditional colleges just need to adapt and do some classes this way but not everything at all.
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    I think taking some classes this way is fine, but going to class and interacting, etc. is part of the education.  What about things like group projects?  Traditional colleges just need to adapt and do some classes this way but not everything at all.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 12:49 PM ET #7

    and pretty soon companies with telecommuting jobs will only accept resumes from online degree graduates
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    and pretty soon companies with telecommuting jobs will only accept resumes from online degree graduates
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 2:53 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    I think taking some classes this way is fine, but going to class and interacting, etc. is part of the education.  What about things like group projects?  Traditional colleges just need to adapt and do some classes this way but not everything at all.

    It isn't strictly online education, you are also required to go brick and mortar classes.  There is a group requirement in every University of Phoenix class, seems to be a lot of misinformation and or jealously about online learning.    Get over it because it's going to be a common thing in the near future.  Online learning is here to stay.

    There are very few "online universities" that are 100% online learning.  University of Phoenix and Devry have both campus classes and online classes for example.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    I think taking some classes this way is fine, but going to class and interacting, etc. is part of the education.  What about things like group projects?  Traditional colleges just need to adapt and do some classes this way but not everything at all.

    It isn't strictly online education, you are also required to go brick and mortar classes.  There is a group requirement in every University of Phoenix class, seems to be a lot of misinformation and or jealously about online learning.    Get over it because it's going to be a common thing in the near future.  Online learning is here to stay.

    There are very few "online universities" that are 100% online learning.  University of Phoenix and Devry have both campus classes and online classes for example.  

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 2:59 PM ET #9

    Companies will still not view a degree from an online college vs. actually university as equal.

    It is extremely easy to cheat during online classes... Same cannot be said for classes you have to attend.
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    Companies will still not view a degree from an online college vs. actually university as equal.

    It is extremely easy to cheat during online classes... Same cannot be said for classes you have to attend.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 3:08 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

     There is a group requirement in every University of Phoenix class, seems to be a lot of misinformation and or jealously about online learning.   

    what's that, you must have 8 inches?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

     There is a group requirement in every University of Phoenix class, seems to be a lot of misinformation and or jealously about online learning.   

    what's that, you must have 8 inches?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

    be obsolete! Distance learning is here to stay, and IS the wave ot  the future.
     
     Deal with it!  I took online classes myself and I LOVED IT.
     
    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear. 
     
    How do you beat that? 

    What you don't realize is that you are missing the 4 best years of your life by not attending a college. The education you receive is just not in your class or your books. Its the entire experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

    be obsolete! Distance learning is here to stay, and IS the wave ot  the future.
     
     Deal with it!  I took online classes myself and I LOVED IT.
     
    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear. 
     
    How do you beat that? 

    What you don't realize is that you are missing the 4 best years of your life by not attending a college. The education you receive is just not in your class or your books. Its the entire experience.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2009 - 9:29 PM ET #12

    teachers will get fucked in the long run.  damn it dallas just scored.
     
    fuck
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    teachers will get fucked in the long run.  damn it dallas just scored.
     
    fuck
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:06 AM ET #13

    I learned more outside of the classroom during college than I did in it.

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    I learned more outside of the classroom during college than I did in it.

     
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    I think for undergraduate degrees of just having a college degrees then it is possible...

    But in terms of a real professional post graduate degree that requires accreditation for your degree to be worth something, online schools will not be able to compete with solid programs...

    Also think of it this way, if a job requires a college diploma  "to get a job" it means little...  But if the job requires some type of professional competency to "do the job" , then the degree that you get online will only be as valued as how well it prepares you to "do the job"...

    My wife just got a doctorate from University of Washington through their extended distance learning program...

    But here is where it gets real...

    1. Tests were taken in person, with proctors and ID verified...

    2.  My wife had to go to Seattle to give presentations in person to get credit... If you cannot stand up in front a class and teach it, you probably should not being a getting a doctorate...

    3.  Rotations where she needed to show competency in a clinical setting where she had to develop programs and protocol... If you cannot facilitate actual clinical work, once again you probably should not a get a doctorate...

    I have to admit that I enjoyed the parts that she could do home in her underwear...

    But I also know that her sheep skin is based on proven competency and not because she clicked around on the internet...

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    I think for undergraduate degrees of just having a college degrees then it is possible...

    But in terms of a real professional post graduate degree that requires accreditation for your degree to be worth something, online schools will not be able to compete with solid programs...

    Also think of it this way, if a job requires a college diploma  "to get a job" it means little...  But if the job requires some type of professional competency to "do the job" , then the degree that you get online will only be as valued as how well it prepares you to "do the job"...

    My wife just got a doctorate from University of Washington through their extended distance learning program...

    But here is where it gets real...

    1. Tests were taken in person, with proctors and ID verified...

    2.  My wife had to go to Seattle to give presentations in person to get credit... If you cannot stand up in front a class and teach it, you probably should not being a getting a doctorate...

    3.  Rotations where she needed to show competency in a clinical setting where she had to develop programs and protocol... If you cannot facilitate actual clinical work, once again you probably should not a get a doctorate...

    I have to admit that I enjoyed the parts that she could do home in her underwear...

    But I also know that her sheep skin is based on proven competency and not because she clicked around on the internet...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 9:22 AM ET #15

    When I look at a candidates' resume an "online" degree is considered more of a "GED" version.  It tells me that the person does not understand/have what a traditional college education brings.
     
    If you are just looking for the piece of paper save yourself some time and buy one off craigslist.
     
    One is an experience, one is a result.
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    When I look at a candidates' resume an "online" degree is considered more of a "GED" version.  It tells me that the person does not understand/have what a traditional college education brings.
     
    If you are just looking for the piece of paper save yourself some time and buy one off craigslist.
     
    One is an experience, one is a result.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grego:

    When I look at a candidates' resume an "online" degree is considered more of a "GED" version.  It tells me that the person does not understand/have what a traditional college education brings.
     
    If you are just looking for the piece of paper save yourself some time and buy one off craigslist.
     
    One is an experience, one is a result.

    you're very misinformed...educate yourself... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grego:

    When I look at a candidates' resume an "online" degree is considered more of a "GED" version.  It tells me that the person does not understand/have what a traditional college education brings.
     
    If you are just looking for the piece of paper save yourself some time and buy one off craigslist.
     
    One is an experience, one is a result.

    you're very misinformed...educate yourself... 

     
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    Good luck finding a job.


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    Good luck finding a job.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 11:12 AM ET #18

    There are very few college degrees that are worth much as far as finding a job.  A college degree today is like a high school diploma from 30 years ago. 
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    There are very few college degrees that are worth much as far as finding a job.  A college degree today is like a high school diploma from 30 years ago. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    There are very few college degrees that are worth much as far as finding a job.  A college degree today is like a high school diploma from 30 years ago. 




    College degree proves one of two things

    1.)  You had the money to buy the peice of paper

    2.)  You are more than willing to sacrifice yourself to a lifetime of debt, in order to get that piece of paper

    If i was using college degree as criteria for hiring someone, i would rather have a #2 because they are more likely to keep showing up week after week to exchange their time for my money,,,,,,because imo those that show the willingness to drown in debt and join the never ending chase for more money, are likely saddled with other debts and have not much a choice in the matter of coming to work to try and keep current with their bills
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    There are very few college degrees that are worth much as far as finding a job.  A college degree today is like a high school diploma from 30 years ago. 




    College degree proves one of two things

    1.)  You had the money to buy the peice of paper

    2.)  You are more than willing to sacrifice yourself to a lifetime of debt, in order to get that piece of paper

    If i was using college degree as criteria for hiring someone, i would rather have a #2 because they are more likely to keep showing up week after week to exchange their time for my money,,,,,,because imo those that show the willingness to drown in debt and join the never ending chase for more money, are likely saddled with other debts and have not much a choice in the matter of coming to work to try and keep current with their bills
     
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    As far as the thread title,

    Topic: Traditional colleges and Universities will soon be obsolete,,,

    thank goodness, couldn't happen soon enough.

    but it won't happen, gov't funded universities are a keystone to the flow of money from the gov't to it's citizenry,,,,,,look at any healthy local economy, and the number one reason they state for why, is because of local universities
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    As far as the thread title,

    Topic: Traditional colleges and Universities will soon be obsolete,,,

    thank goodness, couldn't happen soon enough.

    but it won't happen, gov't funded universities are a keystone to the flow of money from the gov't to it's citizenry,,,,,,look at any healthy local economy, and the number one reason they state for why, is because of local universities
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 12:42 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    There are very few college degrees that are worth much as far as finding a job.  A college degree today is like a high school diploma from 30 years ago. 


    Exactly.  I high school diploma was a pretty important criteria for finding a job in 1979.

    be easy - You are so far off base, it isn't even funny.  A college education isn't about a fucking piece of paper or debt, it's about the education you receive - something that becomes you, not something material or superficial. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    There are very few college degrees that are worth much as far as finding a job.  A college degree today is like a high school diploma from 30 years ago. 


    Exactly.  I high school diploma was a pretty important criteria for finding a job in 1979.

    be easy - You are so far off base, it isn't even funny.  A college education isn't about a fucking piece of paper or debt, it's about the education you receive - something that becomes you, not something material or superficial. 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 1:15 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

    you're very misinformed...educate yourself... 

    I hire a lot of people.  You rank as follows:  Real, Online, none....

    You don't have to agree or like it but it is what it is.

    From your first post... whom do you think I am more likely to hire, whom do you think is going to care more about my company:

    a) The person who got themselves up at 8am and made it through a day of classes, socially interracted on campus.  Experienced more than just classrooms like getting along with roommates etc

    b) person so driven by laziness that they somehow have convinced themselves that going to class in their underwear is the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

    you're very misinformed...educate yourself... 

    I hire a lot of people.  You rank as follows:  Real, Online, none....

    You don't have to agree or like it but it is what it is.

    From your first post... whom do you think I am more likely to hire, whom do you think is going to care more about my company:

    a) The person who got themselves up at 8am and made it through a day of classes, socially interracted on campus.  Experienced more than just classrooms like getting along with roommates etc

    b) person so driven by laziness that they somehow have convinced themselves that going to class in their underwear is the same thing

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 5:50 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

    be obsolete! Distance learning is here to stay, and IS the wave ot  the future.
     
     Deal with it!  I took online classes myself and I LOVED IT.
     
    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear. 
     
    How do you beat that? 

    Do you know why people who go to Ivy League schools tend to get higher paying, more sought after jobs? Two main reasons would be nepotism and networking.

    If you were to interview for a job with a Fortune 500 company, and the postion for which you were applying was going to be filled by you or one other candidate who had attended Notre Dame, the chances that one of the people from that company being a Notre Dame alum is pretty good, and that person would push for "his guy", which is a form of nepotism.

    As for networking ... for people who attend more prestigious colleges, they make many friends while in school. Some of those friends will get great jobs because of what was stated in the paragraph above. There are endless business opportunities created by who you know, as opposed to what yu know or where you get your degree.

    Bottom line is that for most people, paying the huge tuition at a prestigious college is well worth it.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipper21:

    be obsolete! Distance learning is here to stay, and IS the wave ot  the future.
     
     Deal with it!  I took online classes myself and I LOVED IT.
     
    Took quizzes, midterms and finals in my underwear. 
     
    How do you beat that? 

    Do you know why people who go to Ivy League schools tend to get higher paying, more sought after jobs? Two main reasons would be nepotism and networking.

    If you were to interview for a job with a Fortune 500 company, and the postion for which you were applying was going to be filled by you or one other candidate who had attended Notre Dame, the chances that one of the people from that company being a Notre Dame alum is pretty good, and that person would push for "his guy", which is a form of nepotism.

    As for networking ... for people who attend more prestigious colleges, they make many friends while in school. Some of those friends will get great jobs because of what was stated in the paragraph above. There are endless business opportunities created by who you know, as opposed to what yu know or where you get your degree.

    Bottom line is that for most people, paying the huge tuition at a prestigious college is well worth it.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 6:23 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Grego:

    I hire a lot of people.  You rank as follows:  Real, Online, none....

    You don't have to agree or like it but it is what it is.

    From your first post... whom do you think I am more likely to hire, whom do you think is going to care more about my company:

    a) The person who got themselves up at 8am and made it through a day of classes, socially interracted on campus.  Experienced more than just classrooms like getting along with roommates etc

    b) person so driven by laziness that they somehow have convinced themselves that going to class in their underwear is the same thing

    wow, are you clueless. 

    First of all, I wouldn't want to work for someone so out of touch with the modern age, that he thinks that people who go to school online are "lazy"....lmfao...you fool, online education is really designed for people who are ALREADY working, i:e working adults who don't have the time to go to school full-time but want to continue their education the most efficient way possible.

    Online education is a godsend to people like this, and there are tens of thousands who fall into that category.  I'm not talking about just 18 -20 year olds, i'm talking to people 18-60 who want to keep pursuing their educational goals for a variety of reasons.  

    Yes, I am am fortunate enough to be able to test in my underwear at 2AM, instead of getting up and going to class at 8AM.  But this is the future of education........DEAL WITH IT, BELIEVE ME IT'S HERE TO STAY...and i'm not talking about just a handful of colleges and universities...i'm talking about EVERY MAJOR COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY...some now, some later.  

     Do some research and you''ll see that top-tier colleges are now offering online classes...

    Welcome to the 21st Century   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grego:

    I hire a lot of people.  You rank as follows:  Real, Online, none....

    You don't have to agree or like it but it is what it is.

    From your first post... whom do you think I am more likely to hire, whom do you think is going to care more about my company:

    a) The person who got themselves up at 8am and made it through a day of classes, socially interracted on campus.  Experienced more than just classrooms like getting along with roommates etc

    b) person so driven by laziness that they somehow have convinced themselves that going to class in their underwear is the same thing

    wow, are you clueless. 

    First of all, I wouldn't want to work for someone so out of touch with the modern age, that he thinks that people who go to school online are "lazy"....lmfao...you fool, online education is really designed for people who are ALREADY working, i:e working adults who don't have the time to go to school full-time but want to continue their education the most efficient way possible.

    Online education is a godsend to people like this, and there are tens of thousands who fall into that category.  I'm not talking about just 18 -20 year olds, i'm talking to people 18-60 who want to keep pursuing their educational goals for a variety of reasons.  

    Yes, I am am fortunate enough to be able to test in my underwear at 2AM, instead of getting up and going to class at 8AM.  But this is the future of education........DEAL WITH IT, BELIEVE ME IT'S HERE TO STAY...and i'm not talking about just a handful of colleges and universities...i'm talking about EVERY MAJOR COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY...some now, some later.  

     Do some research and you''ll see that top-tier colleges are now offering online classes...

    Welcome to the 21st Century   

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2009 - 6:25 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:





    College degree proves one of two things

    1.)  You had the money to buy the peice of paper

    2.)  You are more than willing to sacrifice yourself to a lifetime of debt, in order to get that piece of paper

    If i was using college degree as criteria for hiring someone, i would rather have a #2 because they are more likely to keep showing up week after week to exchange their time for my money,,,,,,because imo those that show the willingness to drown in debt and join the never ending chase for more money, are likely saddled with other debts and have not much a choice in the matter of coming to work to try and keep current with their bills

    this would be funny if it wasn't so sad. you are a disgrace. I hope you don't have any children.  You are a poor example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:





    College degree proves one of two things

    1.)  You had the money to buy the peice of paper

    2.)  You are more than willing to sacrifice yourself to a lifetime of debt, in order to get that piece of paper

    If i was using college degree as criteria for hiring someone, i would rather have a #2 because they are more likely to keep showing up week after week to exchange their time for my money,,,,,,because imo those that show the willingness to drown in debt and join the never ending chase for more money, are likely saddled with other debts and have not much a choice in the matter of coming to work to try and keep current with their bills

    this would be funny if it wasn't so sad. you are a disgrace. I hope you don't have any children.  You are a poor example.

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