Further proof that I do not have a Master's!!!! I CAN'T SPELL CURRICULUM !!!!
You've debunked me. Bravo, sir, Bravo.
I didn't think you'd quit so easily. I'm disappointed!
You did indeed provide a number of scientific information in the links you provided, but that's not what I asked for.
I really have 2-3 main points in this thread. All the other stuff is just "supporting cast" for my main points. The supporting cast could be considered: 1.) The Bilderberg Group 2.) No plane crashed in Shanksville 3.) The Pentagon was not hit by a plane, but instead a missile.
What do I really want answers for, and were my main points?
1.) The Towers fell in free fall speed. You, nor anyone else, has showed me a reason for the following contradictions:
A billiard ball, dropped from the roof of the WTC, takes anywhere from 8.79 to 9.22 seconds to hit the ground below. This experiment was done by Columbia University and simply cannot be refuted. The link is here:
https://www.contrarianthinker.com/WTC%20pr1.jpg
The WTC South Tower fell in just over 9 seconds. You can say until you're red in the face the "I can't see when the tower stopped falling" or "Must have been a pancake affect", but you're only kidding yourself. The South Tower fell in just over 9 seconds. One example I gave of this is here, although there are many more videos in which you can see the same thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG7I4UnoBnA
2.) The government released 13 conversations from the passengers of United Flight 93 on 9/11 that they claimed came from the passengers cellular devices. Many other phone calls were made from the air phones, I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the cell phone calls that the government released.
If you look at the time-stamp of the cell phone calls, and coincide those times with the flight trajectory of Flight 93 to see the altitude at which the plane was flying, you will see that Flight 93 was above 20,000 feet for every single one of the cell calls. Someone in this thread claimed that the calls were made at 8,000 feet. This is simply false. -Every- call came above 20,000 feet, and some even at cruising altitude of 32,000 feet.
It is absolutely impossible for a cell phone call to take place at such altitudes.
3.) Why haven't you debunked Operation Northwoods? You seem to not want to go there. The same exact plan was drawn up by a high ranked military general in the 1960's. He wanted to "create a reason" to invade Cuba, before Castro took power. At the time, this was just as important to the United States as removing Hitler from power in Germany. He describes in the report, in very specific details, the EXACT occurances that took place on 9/11.
Do you expect me to believe that human beings are incapable of such astrocities, spiff? You have a military grade report in this thread that shows this idea has been considered before. You are failing to admitt that human nature cannot conduct such acts, but at the same time, we already have attempted. Why should 9/11 be any different?
Oh, just as a "ROFL" sidenote, the military member that drew up the Operation Northwood's report? He was a Bilderberg Member.
Also, this couldn't be further from the truth.
The sole reason I posted this in the first place was because I honestly, truely, deeply want someone to finally put my fears of the government/bilderberg's killing my father, and all the other inocent people, to rest.
No one has unequivocally done that as of yet
Also, this couldn't be further from the truth.
The sole reason I posted this in the first place was because I honestly, truely, deeply want someone to finally put my fears of the government/bilderberg's killing my father, and all the other inocent people, to rest.
No one has unequivocally done that as of yet
I honestly do not believe that comparing the proof of God to that of the reality of the WTC collapse is an equal comparison
I do not think it's impossible to prove or disprove the occurances of 9/11 based on the official reports that were released, video and audio of that particular day, and scientific measures
You cannot prove or disprove the existance of God by official reports, video and audio, or scientific measures. Although some will argue the latter.
Just because we haven't done it doesn't mean it cannot be done. It simply means that we're not smart enough
It either happened as they told us, or didn't happen as they told us. The conclusion -MUST- be one of the two. It cannot be both. Therefore, it can be proven one way or the other. Do I think we'll solve it in this thread? Of course not. But I do feel that by gathering opinions and thoughts that we may not have come across in the past, it might shed some insight on the "other side of the fence" theories
Or maybe not, and I've just pissed people off and made them dislike me 
Just because we haven't done it doesn't mean it cannot be done. It simply means that we're not smart enough
It either happened as they told us, or didn't happen as they told us. The conclusion -MUST- be one of the two. It cannot be both. Therefore, it can be proven one way or the other. Do I think we'll solve it in this thread? Of course not. But I do feel that by gathering opinions and thoughts that we may not have come across in the past, it might shed some insight on the "other side of the fence" theories
Or maybe not, and I've just pissed people off and made them dislike me
You did indeed provide a number of scientific information in the links you provided, but that's not what I asked for.
I really have 2-3 main points in this thread. All the other stuff is just "supporting cast" for my main points. The supporting cast could be considered: 1.) The Bilderberg Group 2.) No plane crashed in Shanksville 3.) The Pentagon was not hit by a plane, but instead a missile.
What do I really want answers for, and were my main points?
1.) The Towers fell in free fall speed. You, nor anyone else, has showed me a reason for the following contradictions:
A billiard ball, dropped from the roof of the WTC, takes anywhere from 8.79 to 9.22 seconds to hit the ground below. This experiment was done by Columbia University and simply cannot be refuted. The link is here:
https://www.contrarianthinker.com/WTC%20pr1.jpg
The WTC South Tower fell in just over 9 seconds. You can say until you're red in the face the "I can't see when the tower stopped falling" or "Must have been a pancake affect", but you're only kidding yourself. The South Tower fell in just over 9 seconds. One example I gave of this is here, although there are many more videos in which you can see the same thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG7I4UnoBnA
2.) The government released 13 conversations from the passengers of United Flight 93 on 9/11 that they claimed came from the passengers cellular devices. Many other phone calls were made from the air phones, I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the cell phone calls that the government released.
If you look at the time-stamp of the cell phone calls, and coincide those times with the flight trajectory of Flight 93 to see the altitude at which the plane was flying, you will see that Flight 93 was above 20,000 feet for every single one of the cell calls. Someone in this thread claimed that the calls were made at 8,000 feet. This is simply false. -Every- call came above 20,000 feet, and some even at cruising altitude of 32,000 feet.
It is absolutely impossible for a cell phone call to take place at such altitudes.
3.) Why haven't you debunked Operation Northwoods? You seem to not want to go there. The same exact plan was drawn up by a high ranked military general in the 1960's. He wanted to "create a reason" to invade Cuba, before Castro took power. At the time, this was just as important to the United States as removing Hitler from power in Germany. He describes in the report, in very specific details, the EXACT occurances that took place on 9/11.
Do you expect me to believe that human beings are incapable of such astrocities, spiff? You have a military grade report in this thread that shows this idea has been considered before. You are failing to admitt that human nature cannot conduct such acts, but at the same time, we already have attempted. Why should 9/11 be any different?
Oh, just as a "ROFL" sidenote, the military member that drew up the Operation Northwood's report? He was a Bilderberg Member.
You took a huge step backwards with this arguement bro. The test happened. They got close enough to the edges. I'm sure multiple billiard balls were used. I'm sure they got permission. I'm sure they cleared the areas of which the balls were dropped. And I'm sure they limited damage by securing the ground site, and making sure no civilians were in the area.
And just because a test was performed by any University does not mean they need to post results on a .edu website.
Almost everything you said here made me shake my head side to side. You appear to have given up. Hopefully someone else hops on bored, as I'm having fun now 
What?! How can you not? The government has claimed that not only did the calls happen, but they also gave word for word dialogue between the passengers and the famlies.
If this is a lie, which it is, why are we to believe anything else? Why lie about something like this? Why wouldn't they just say there were no phone calls!
Because they're hiding something, that's why.
Pardon me, I should have used the word similar instead of exact. I didn't know we were counting pennies.
Everything about Operation Northwoods mirrored 9/11. Use of planes. Create public fear for safety. Make citizens want war. Invade a country for a "made up" reason.
I can go on, but you get the point if you've read the General's proposal.
The sole reason I posted this in the first place was because I honestly, truely, deeply want someone to finally put my fears of the government/bilderberg's killing my father, and all the other inocent people, to rest.
No one has unequivocally done that as of yet
at last, we're finally getting somewhere. the first step in the right direction would be funding a focus group to fully research this matter. of course, the scope of the follow-up investigation would depend entirely on how much of that settlement from the government you're willing to part with. I would imagine even if you had to exhaust every penny without finding anything conclusive it would be worth it to honor the memory of your late father and all the people that were murdered.
the only problem with that is you'd have very little resources left to bail you out of life's little jams should they find you again. this is truly a very real dilemma for a true american patriot
All of the writing in the posts on page 9 goes off to the right side of the page. I can't see anything past the margins of my computer screen. I did everything possible to change the zoom and such on my internet settings, nothing works
It's only in this thread too. I'll have to wait to respond until I get on another computer I guess, which will be later today
at last, we're finally getting somewhere. the first step in the right direction would be funding a focus group to fully research this matter. of course, the scope of the follow-up investigation would depend entirely on how much of that settlement from the government you're willing to part with. I would imagine even if you had to exhaust every penny without finding anything conclusive it would be worth it to honor the memory of your late father and all the people that were murdered.
the only problem with that is you'd have very little resources left to bail you out of life's little jams should they find you again. this is truly a very real dilemma for a true american patriot
I've spent roughly $100,000 on such things that you're referring to. Probably wasted money, as it's gotten me no where.
The settlement funds went to my mother. She needs them badly. She can't work and attends treatment on a daily basis. It's a very, very, very terrible situation
I was hoping for this question.
Right after I hit "submit" for the original post, I realized that I hadn't included where Flight 93 actually went.
Flight 93 landed in Cleveland at roughly 11:15 AM. At approximately 10:45 AM, all people inside the terminal and waiting areas of the airport were told they had to evacuate immediately. They were told they could not drive or take any of their vehicles. They were forced to WALK away from the airport, and not ask any questions.
Some people refused and tried to get back to gather their personal belongings. These people were told that if they did not comply and tried to gain access back to the airport, they would be shot on site.
At 11:15 AM, Flight 93 landed. At 11:45, it was evacuated and the passengers were taken to an inactive NASA hanger. What happened from there? It's anyone's guess. I highly doubt the government would have killed those passengers, but I absolutely believe that if they are capable of staging such attacks as the ones on the WTC, they are more than capable of sitting down 200 people, and giving them an ultimatum:
"You will not contact your famlies ever again. We will give you new lives with unlimited access to whatever you desire. We will place you in a very undisclosed location and give you new identities. We will watch every move you make and monitor every minute of your daily lives. Should you contact your family or speak of this to anyone, we will kill both them, and you."
Would you agree? I don't think you would have a choice..
You took a huge step backwards with this arguement bro. The test happened. They got close enough to the edges. I'm sure multiple billiard balls were used. I'm sure they got permission. I'm sure they cleared the areas of which the balls were dropped. And I'm sure they limited damage by securing the ground site, and making sure no civilians were in the area.
And just because a test was performed by any University does not mean they need to post results on a .edu website.
Almost everything you said here made me shake my head side to side. You appear to have given up. Hopefully someone else hops on bored, as I'm having fun now
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