Question for Religious Folks

What about people that have been clinically dead... flatlined... they know, and im sure theyll tell its was nothingness becasue there unconcious. Find one that will tell u they were sitting there over their body watching the nurses and doctors work on them.

You said faith will never end earlier, when what you should have said was fear will never end. And this comment right here confirms that!

Well first of all he just threw in some negative language "contradictions and immorality"  there is no verses coming from God telling anyone to do anything immoral.  I guarantee he will reply with "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"  which is always taken wayyy out of contest.

 that is fuckin funny.  Se he is always going out of his way to try and disprove the beliefs of others. 

Once again no one is actually forcing you to believe in God your just a dumbass who can't make a good point about religion.  Why don't you take your dumbass to an intelligent design lecture ? And actually see modern day christian scholars discuss many of the questions of the day.

Why don't you take your dumbass to an intelligent design lecture ? And actually see modern day christian scholars discuss many of the questions of the day.

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I listened to the supreme leader of the Catholic church flat out lie and allow certain people to stay in their parishes and continue to molest children.  God is omnicient....and all powerful.  He is capable of granting ever lasting life, but He can't affect the lives of these children until they die?  What kind of cruel person says, "I can grant you everlasting life, but I will sit back and watch as you are abused by the very people preaching on behalf of me?"

That aint right, my friend. 

By the way, if the devil is doing his work on earth (which many believe is the case), then wouldn't a person who was in line with his beliefs actually welcome going to hell and being with him?  If you murder someone....which is an evil act to say the least....wouldn't you want to go to hell so you and the devil could slap each other on the back and say, "great job" to each other? 

Seems to me that "banished to hell" would be a welcome outcome for someone who has been doing the "devil's work." 

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this fails from ignorance from the outset.  there are not two options.  there are hundreds of options.  if you base this premise on the idea that either God exists or God doesn't exit, you are assuming a single concept of God. is your God and bin laden's God the same such that your beliefs are equal and suitable to get you both the 72 virgins in heaven?  satanists worship a higher power.  is that the same as yours?  many gods are contrary to others just as religions are contrary to other religions.  what of polytheistic religions which make up the majority of religions? 

as i've said over and over, ther are more than a thousand religions.  most are polytheistic.  if you dismiss any of those gods as false you are an atheist.  if you believe in just your god, you go to some version of hell many times over from other religions.  how does that mesh with your ridiculously simplistic proposition? 

how is that God defined?  is your definition of God the same as Bin Laden's such that both of your different beliefs maintain your "safety"?

when this prpposition is characterized in terms of "safe", i am assuming that means in terms of making it into heaven.  if there are different versions of God or gods and different versions of heaven and therefore many different ways to get into heaven, hundreds in fact, there cannot just be two choices, one of which is the safe choice.

How do you figure? His comments clearly show that his faith is driven by fear. Fear of what may happen to him had he continued to live a life without praising god. Read the guys posts, he sounds like robot, or someone who is brain washed. To believe in something because you fear what will happen if you do not is, to me, no way to live your life. He also stated earlier that you cannot truly understand something until you have foud christ, and that is just absurd. I am sure there are thousands of scientist who know more about this world and universe than any of us in here will ever know, and it would shock me if many of them have found jesus. To really think that there is a place known as heaven which is lead by an almighty leader in god, again to me, is where the ignorance lies. To think that christianity is the only right religion is spreading intolerance, and closed minded. I would contest taht if many of you were raised in differnt cultures and were exposed to different relisigions as part of your socialization then whatever religion was accepted by that culture you would follow with just as much passion, and be wrong as well. To believe what the bible says means that MANY MANY good people would be banished to hell because they have not found the path to heaven through jesus. What about all the people in this world who were never exposed to jesus, by default they are banished to enternity in hell? That hardly seems fair coming from an all forgiving god. He basicly says that the 70 or 80 years you spent on earth not praising me can never be forgiven. Not even with an eternity of worship and praise after life, in heaven.

Do you honestly think God wants to save people based on Pascal's wager (ie. they believe in Him because the alternative is a bit scary?)? 

You guys keep talking about Catholic Priests and child molesting.  Im about to really ruffle some feathers, Catholicism is a cult.  Thats not to say that there are no Christian Catholics.  They have made up there own set of rules to live by and dont have a lot to do with the Bible.