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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:53 AM ET #2176

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    The multiverse will be proven now??

    Wait till i prove to you guys that i will be on the Miami Heat roster one day......

    And this information will be delivered for you by electronic media developed by science. Why not go out in the wilderness, and meet your god on her terms, see how long your faith will sustain you. About 24 hours before you start to die of exposure. You are nothing bu a coward afraid to live these christian beliefs you so love to espouse. Do it, stop banding bullshit on a gambling site. You are the biggest hypocrite on this thread.
    I'd rather be playing D&D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    The multiverse will be proven now??

    Wait till i prove to you guys that i will be on the Miami Heat roster one day......

    And this information will be delivered for you by electronic media developed by science. Why not go out in the wilderness, and meet your god on her terms, see how long your faith will sustain you. About 24 hours before you start to die of exposure. You are nothing bu a coward afraid to live these christian beliefs you so love to espouse. Do it, stop banding bullshit on a gambling site. You are the biggest hypocrite on this thread.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:53 AM ET #2177

    *answers or responses. 
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    *answers or responses. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:55 AM ET #2178

    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Will ask again ... the universe is 10-15 billion years old.... human life is 500,000 .... explain that in genesis terms

    Also... which variety of man did god create? I'm guessing it wasn't the neanderthals

    Think of the interbreeding going on back then. Variety is the essence of porn, I'm sure the gene pool is muddied with many of the early primates...
    I'd rather be playing D&D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Will ask again ... the universe is 10-15 billion years old.... human life is 500,000 .... explain that in genesis terms

    Also... which variety of man did god create? I'm guessing it wasn't the neanderthals

    Think of the interbreeding going on back then. Variety is the essence of porn, I'm sure the gene pool is muddied with many of the early primates...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:55 AM ET #2179

    Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:

    And this information will be delivered for you by electronic media developed by science. Why not go out in the wilderness, and meet your god on her terms, see how long your faith will sustain you. About 24 hours before you start to die of exposure. You are nothing bu a coward afraid to live these christian beliefs you so love to espouse. Do it, stop banding bullshit on a gambling site. You are the biggest hypocrite on this thread.



    A guy quoting the bible and then using this guy  

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:

    And this information will be delivered for you by electronic media developed by science. Why not go out in the wilderness, and meet your god on her terms, see how long your faith will sustain you. About 24 hours before you start to die of exposure. You are nothing bu a coward afraid to live these christian beliefs you so love to espouse. Do it, stop banding bullshit on a gambling site. You are the biggest hypocrite on this thread.



    A guy quoting the bible and then using this guy  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:56 AM ET #2180

    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............

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    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:56 AM ET #2181

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    The multiverse will be proven now??

    Wait till i prove to you guys that i will be on the Miami Heat roster one day......


    Why is that funny to you?  I've already stated that there is a satellite that can measure gravitational waves across a great span, and according to scientists, if it matches their calculations, it can essentially prove that theory...  It could be launched in just a few years...

    Why are you laughing at science?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    The multiverse will be proven now??

    Wait till i prove to you guys that i will be on the Miami Heat roster one day......


    Why is that funny to you?  I've already stated that there is a satellite that can measure gravitational waves across a great span, and according to scientists, if it matches their calculations, it can essentially prove that theory...  It could be launched in just a few years...

    Why are you laughing at science?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:57 AM ET #2182

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    It says in the bible that you shouldn't use this guy 


    Sparty makes a bunch of good points and doesn't get any answers responses? 

    Like a multiverse exists?

    The multiverse was only introduced as a THEORY to dodge the ridiolous and stupid odds that our universe is fine tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    It says in the bible that you shouldn't use this guy 


    Sparty makes a bunch of good points and doesn't get any answers responses? 

    Like a multiverse exists?

    The multiverse was only introduced as a THEORY to dodge the ridiolous and stupid odds that our universe is fine tuned.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:58 AM ET #2183

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............


    How dumb are you?  Do you not understand the word alien?  This includes BACTERIA which has been found.  This is proven FACT...  You can't be this ignorant...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............


    How dumb are you?  Do you not understand the word alien?  This includes BACTERIA which has been found.  This is proven FACT...  You can't be this ignorant...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 1:59 AM ET #2184

    Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:

    And this information will be delivered for you by electronic media developed by science. Why not go out in the wilderness, and meet your god on her terms, see how long your faith will sustain you. About 24 hours before you start to die of exposure. You are nothing bu a coward afraid to live these christian beliefs you so love to espouse. Do it, stop banding bullshit on a gambling site. You are the biggest hypocrite on this thread.

    Yes, i am a hypocrite because i am said i am perfect and sin free..

    I have said that everywhere.......i was wondering when someone was going to pick that up........

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagerfury:

    And this information will be delivered for you by electronic media developed by science. Why not go out in the wilderness, and meet your god on her terms, see how long your faith will sustain you. About 24 hours before you start to die of exposure. You are nothing bu a coward afraid to live these christian beliefs you so love to espouse. Do it, stop banding bullshit on a gambling site. You are the biggest hypocrite on this thread.

    Yes, i am a hypocrite because i am said i am perfect and sin free..

    I have said that everywhere.......i was wondering when someone was going to pick that up........

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:00 AM ET #2185

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Like a multiverse exists?

    The multiverse was only introduced as a THEORY to dodge the ridiolous and stupid odds that our universe is fine tuned.


    And making up a supernatural world is a much better way to answer everything...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Like a multiverse exists?

    The multiverse was only introduced as a THEORY to dodge the ridiolous and stupid odds that our universe is fine tuned.


    And making up a supernatural world is a much better way to answer everything...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:00 AM ET #2186

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............


    People like you are the biggest pieces of shit out there. You quote the fucking bible and "only care what it says in the bible" and then you laugh at people and think you're better than people. 

    You're a fucking idiot. 

    Go read it again. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............


    People like you are the biggest pieces of shit out there. You quote the fucking bible and "only care what it says in the bible" and then you laugh at people and think you're better than people. 

    You're a fucking idiot. 

    Go read it again. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:01 AM ET #2187

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Why is that funny to you?  I've already stated that there is a satellite that can measure gravitational waves across a great span, and according to scientists, if it matches their calculations, it can essentially prove that theory...  It could be launched in just a few years...

    Why are you laughing at science?

    There is ZERO evidence of a multiverse.....The multiverse is simply a naturalistic presupposition to get around the fine tuning argument....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Why is that funny to you?  I've already stated that there is a satellite that can measure gravitational waves across a great span, and according to scientists, if it matches their calculations, it can essentially prove that theory...  It could be launched in just a few years...

    Why are you laughing at science?

    There is ZERO evidence of a multiverse.....The multiverse is simply a naturalistic presupposition to get around the fine tuning argument....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:02 AM ET #2188

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    People like you are the biggest pieces of shit out there. You quote the fucking bible and "only care what it says in the bible" and then you laugh at people and think you're better than people. 

    You're a fucking idiot. 

    Go read it again. 

    And the typical ANGRY athestic response....When no rational and logical response can be given, they avert to personal abuse.....

    Just like what you have done

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:


    People like you are the biggest pieces of shit out there. You quote the fucking bible and "only care what it says in the bible" and then you laugh at people and think you're better than people. 

    You're a fucking idiot. 

    Go read it again. 

    And the typical ANGRY athestic response....When no rational and logical response can be given, they avert to personal abuse.....

    Just like what you have done

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:04 AM ET #2189

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    And the typical ANGRY athestic response....When no rational and logical response can be given, they avert to personal abuse.....

    Just like what you have done


    Personal abuse? 

    You fucking kidding me? 

    Pray for a thicker set of skin. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    And the typical ANGRY athestic response....When no rational and logical response can be given, they avert to personal abuse.....

    Just like what you have done


    Personal abuse? 

    You fucking kidding me? 

    Pray for a thicker set of skin. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:06 AM ET #2190

    "People like you are the biggest pieces of shit out there"

    Personal abuse......

     

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    "People like you are the biggest pieces of shit out there"

    Personal abuse......

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:07 AM ET #2191

    Angry? 

    Because i called you a fucking idiot for saying you only believe what the bible says? And then you laugh at people and think you're better than people? 

    I think you kind of missed the point of the book. 
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    Angry? 

    Because i called you a fucking idiot for saying you only believe what the bible says? And then you laugh at people and think you're better than people? 

    I think you kind of missed the point of the book. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:08 AM ET #2192

    Hey ... i was taught to be honest. 

    What can ya do. 



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    Hey ... i was taught to be honest. 

    What can ya do. 



     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:12 AM ET #2193

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    There is ZERO evidence of a multiverse.....The multiverse is simply a naturalistic presupposition to get around the fine tuning argument....


    YOU STUPID IGNORANT ASSHOLE. What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously? How can someone be this DUMB?

    NO ONE IS SAYING THE MULTIVERSE IS 100% TRUE. The question is simply

    WHAT HAPPENS IF THE MULTIVERSE THEORY IS PROVEN TRUE?

    Here, let me help you define words you don't understand.

    if
    noun
    6.
    a supposition; uncertain possibility: The future is full of ifs.
    7.
    a condition, requirement, or stipulation: There are too many ifs in his agreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    There is ZERO evidence of a multiverse.....The multiverse is simply a naturalistic presupposition to get around the fine tuning argument....


    YOU STUPID IGNORANT ASSHOLE. What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously? How can someone be this DUMB?

    NO ONE IS SAYING THE MULTIVERSE IS 100% TRUE. The question is simply

    WHAT HAPPENS IF THE MULTIVERSE THEORY IS PROVEN TRUE?

    Here, let me help you define words you don't understand.

    if
    noun
    6.
    a supposition; uncertain possibility: The future is full of ifs.
    7.
    a condition, requirement, or stipulation: There are too many ifs in his agreement.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:15 AM ET #2194

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............


    Alien: definition: of another world

    IT IS 100% FACT that bacteria and microorganisms have been discovered that have arrived via comet/meteor/asteroid, etc. This establishes that somewhere, someplace else, there is life. Is there sentient life? I don't know. The odds are surely in favor of it, but at this point we have no evidence of it. Is there microbic life? Absolutely. No one can dispute that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Covers members now saying Aliens have been PROVEN to EXIST...

    What am i doing on here............


    Alien: definition: of another world

    IT IS 100% FACT that bacteria and microorganisms have been discovered that have arrived via comet/meteor/asteroid, etc. This establishes that somewhere, someplace else, there is life. Is there sentient life? I don't know. The odds are surely in favor of it, but at this point we have no evidence of it. Is there microbic life? Absolutely. No one can dispute that.
     
    Mikniks
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:39 AM ET #2195

    I've never encountered a person who attempts to turn around EVERYTHING the other person says...  The problem here is that there can only be two reasons why:

    1) you really don't understand and therefore misinterpret everything

    OR

    2) you do it intentionally because you think it is a good way to argue a point


    Either way, it isn't good...
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    I've never encountered a person who attempts to turn around EVERYTHING the other person says...  The problem here is that there can only be two reasons why:

    1) you really don't understand and therefore misinterpret everything

    OR

    2) you do it intentionally because you think it is a good way to argue a point


    Either way, it isn't good...
     
    NorthOf49Sports
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:48 AM ET #2196

    Instead of seeking answers at your local church/mosque/synagogue, you spiritual types need to expand your horizons.

    First, take a drive out to Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, OH, and question/bribe/truth serum people about the little grey humanoids from Roswell, NM...

    Next go to Bentwater-Woodbridge AFBs in Suffolk, England, and question/bribe/truth serum people about that little incident back in 1980.

    Next, go talk to a couple of USAF astronauts on the Apollo mission who are still alive, get them to tell you about what they saw and transmitted (in code) on the Moon.

    Come back for your next lesson.

    Aim high... 



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    Instead of seeking answers at your local church/mosque/synagogue, you spiritual types need to expand your horizons.

    First, take a drive out to Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, OH, and question/bribe/truth serum people about the little grey humanoids from Roswell, NM...

    Next go to Bentwater-Woodbridge AFBs in Suffolk, England, and question/bribe/truth serum people about that little incident back in 1980.

    Next, go talk to a couple of USAF astronauts on the Apollo mission who are still alive, get them to tell you about what they saw and transmitted (in code) on the Moon.

    Come back for your next lesson.

    Aim high... 



     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 2:49 AM ET #2197

    I cannot believe that this is even a real thread
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    I cannot believe that this is even a real thread
     
    SirJohnDrake
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 3:26 AM ET #2198

    What...multiverses, aliens (bacteria), harry porter, santa, toothfairy, zeus...what else is next?...lol  

    Isn't miknik aware that we have bacteria on earth so they can't be aliens?...lol

    I think I'll stick with Almighty God, the Creator of the universe and everything else that exist....

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    What...multiverses, aliens (bacteria), harry porter, santa, toothfairy, zeus...what else is next?...lol  

    Isn't miknik aware that we have bacteria on earth so they can't be aliens?...lol

    I think I'll stick with Almighty God, the Creator of the universe and everything else that exist....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 3:38 AM ET #2199

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Clearly you're not educated enough to understand, so I'll try again...  The "evidence" you are submitting is based solely on OPINION so it cannot be used as evidence.  Using the bible to prove god is called circular logic.  Now I know I'll have to explain that to you too SJD...

    No, you're not entirely right. The Gospels in the New Testament are not opinions from the authors but rather they represent first-hand witness accounts.

    They are testimonies depitcting the life and ministry of Jesus Christ. This is how we get all the quotes coming from Jesus as noted in their writings by these first-hand witnesses.

    So these Gospels can't be catergorized as opinions from the authors. So its a form of evidence based on personal experiences.

    Additionally, outside the Bible, Jesus is also mentioned by his near-contemporaries. Extra-Biblical and secular writers (many hostile) point to Jesus' existence, including the Roman writings of Tacitus, Seutonius, Thallus and Pliny, and the Jewish writings of Josephus and the Talmud. Gary Habermas has cited a total of 39 ancient extra-Biblical sources, including 17 non-Christian, that witness from outside the New Testament to over 100 details of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection

    Biblical archaeological are not opinions but rather its the scientific study of the life and cultures of ancient peoples, as by excavation of ancient cities, relics, artifacts, etc.

    The fascinating study has furnished background material for illustrating, illuminating and in many cases authenticating of the message and meaning of the Old and New Testament Scriptures. Archaeologists studying ancient civilizations by uncovering ruins and examining artifacts, are with increasing success confirming the accuracy of the Biblical texts.

    Scientific discoveries like the big bang supports the claim that the universe had a beginning, likewise the second law of thermodynamics also supports this claim and so we know that the universe had a beginning.

    So either the universe was popped into existence from nothing with absolutely no cause or the universe was caused to exist by something outside it. In chapter one of Genesis of the Holy Bible we read that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"

    So your argument in stating that my evidences are soley based on opinions is not a totally accurate one. Philosophical reasons are basicly opinions so you are right in regards to it being opinions.

    So there are evidences outside of the bible, you have to do your research and seek them and don't just come to this thread thinking oneday somebody is going to hand over to you the concrete proof you seek...stop being foolish and start being realistic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Clearly you're not educated enough to understand, so I'll try again...  The "evidence" you are submitting is based solely on OPINION so it cannot be used as evidence.  Using the bible to prove god is called circular logic.  Now I know I'll have to explain that to you too SJD...

    No, you're not entirely right. The Gospels in the New Testament are not opinions from the authors but rather they represent first-hand witness accounts.

    They are testimonies depitcting the life and ministry of Jesus Christ. This is how we get all the quotes coming from Jesus as noted in their writings by these first-hand witnesses.

    So these Gospels can't be catergorized as opinions from the authors. So its a form of evidence based on personal experiences.

    Additionally, outside the Bible, Jesus is also mentioned by his near-contemporaries. Extra-Biblical and secular writers (many hostile) point to Jesus' existence, including the Roman writings of Tacitus, Seutonius, Thallus and Pliny, and the Jewish writings of Josephus and the Talmud. Gary Habermas has cited a total of 39 ancient extra-Biblical sources, including 17 non-Christian, that witness from outside the New Testament to over 100 details of Jesus' life, death, and resurrection

    Biblical archaeological are not opinions but rather its the scientific study of the life and cultures of ancient peoples, as by excavation of ancient cities, relics, artifacts, etc.

    The fascinating study has furnished background material for illustrating, illuminating and in many cases authenticating of the message and meaning of the Old and New Testament Scriptures. Archaeologists studying ancient civilizations by uncovering ruins and examining artifacts, are with increasing success confirming the accuracy of the Biblical texts.

    Scientific discoveries like the big bang supports the claim that the universe had a beginning, likewise the second law of thermodynamics also supports this claim and so we know that the universe had a beginning.

    So either the universe was popped into existence from nothing with absolutely no cause or the universe was caused to exist by something outside it. In chapter one of Genesis of the Holy Bible we read that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"

    So your argument in stating that my evidences are soley based on opinions is not a totally accurate one. Philosophical reasons are basicly opinions so you are right in regards to it being opinions.

    So there are evidences outside of the bible, you have to do your research and seek them and don't just come to this thread thinking oneday somebody is going to hand over to you the concrete proof you seek...stop being foolish and start being realistic!

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2011 - 3:46 AM ET #2200

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Why is that funny to you?  I've already stated that there is a satellite that can measure gravitational waves across a great span, and according to scientists, if it matches their calculations, it can essentially prove that theory...  It could be launched in just a few years...

    Why are you laughing at science?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:


    Why is that funny to you?  I've already stated that there is a satellite that can measure gravitational waves across a great span, and according to scientists, if it matches their calculations, it can essentially prove that theory...  It could be launched in just a few years...

    Why are you laughing at science?

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