Of course not. Neither does the catholic church systematic rape and cover up of little boys.
Just observations about reality.
Dont you find it funny that bachman, cain, and Perry all said god told them to run for president - and then all 3 lost? Dont get too deep on this one, just laugh at the obvious irony.
Vaz' logic......
Priets molesting a few boys > Stalin and Pot murdering 100 mill people....
Atheistic logic...
For the 10th time, you dont get to make these rules.
That is not a logical rule, that is a rostos rule. You made up that rule. I do not abide by it.
The fact that you say yourself that you judge degree of moral issues mean that morality is subjective.
Rostos "My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie...."
Subjective morality.
They ARE NOTH WRONG AND BOTH A SIN.
\Moral relativism dictates what is right and wrong....
Oh dear
Vaz' logic......
Priets molesting a few boys > Stalin and Pot murdering 100 mill people....
Atheistic logic...
Alright, you want a Stalin joke? Would that make you feel better?
I specialize in god jokes. Find a stalinist humorist.
Alright, you want a Stalin joke? Would that make you feel better?
I specialize in god jokes. Find a stalinist humorist.
hey lets laugh at a few preists who have molested a few boys, or even preists that have stolen money from the church , that is soooo bad, that is much much much worse than stalin and pot murdering 100 mill people.
Atheistic logic......
Rostos -
You are wrong based on my subjective morality.
That is a perfectly logical statement. You cant tell me I cant say that statement. Stop trying.
Your opinion that right and wrong are determined by objective morality does not preclude me from my opinion that right and wrong are determined by subjective morality.
Read it again. And quit with the strawman.
hey lets laugh at a tons of preists who have molested many many boys, or even preists that have stolen money from the church , that is soooo bad, that is much much much worse than stalin and pot murdering 100 mill people.
Atheistic logic......
You have no sense of humor? How about we laugh at all of it.
Tell me a funny joke about Stalin.
Is it subjective that you arrived at the conclusion that murder is worse than a lie?
JESUS SAID, you commit one, you commit them all.
The bible does not state what is worse..
I was wrong in my conclusion, the bible proves me incorrect, the bible does not tell me to make a judgement...I was wrong to make a judgement...
The bible does not conflucy this......
Rostos -
You are wrong based on my subjective morality.
That is a perfectly logical statement. You cant tell me I cant say that statement. Stop trying.
Your opinion that right and wrong are determined by objective morality does not preclude me from my opinion that right and wrong are determined by subjective morality.
Read it again. And quit with the strawman.
Go and have a look at the definition of subjectivism.Look at it, look at what it means.....Then you shoulkd figure out THAT THE definition does NOT change when applied to morality.....
Until you do that, i will come back here
One interesting thing about absolute morality.
If there really is such a thing - wouldnt it be abundantly clear what that morality is?
Why are there so many different opinions about what it is - even amongst people of the same religion? By definition, absolute morality should be totally transparent - and therefore absolute.
Where are these rules that everyone agrees on?
JESUS SAID, you commit one, you commit them all.
The bible does not state what is worse..
I was wrong in my conclusion, the bible proves me incorrect, the bible does not tell me to make a judgement...I was wrong to make a judgement...
The bible does not conflucy this......
So wait. I want to clarify.
Earlier you said "My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie....".
But now you are saying that you do not believe that murder is worse than a lie - that they are equal?
It is a very simple question. Either you feel that murder is worse than a lie, or not.
I posted new testament scripture detailing misogynistic attitudes.
Can you clarify your point please?
Rostos "My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie...."
When Rostos realizes that this means he subscribes to subjective morality, he changes course.....
Rostos "I was wrong in my conclusion, the bible proves me incorrect, the bible does not tell me to make a judgement...I was wrong to make a judgement..."
So now Rostos is saying that he believes that murder is the same morality as a lie.
Funny.
Go and have a look at the definition of subjectivism.Look at it, look at what it means.....Then you shoulkd figure out THAT THE definition does NOT change when applied to morality.....
Until you do that, i will come back here
Stop telling me to go do things.
Just tell me the definition.
Rostos on subjective morality:
Rostos "My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie...."
When Rostos realizes that this means he subscribes to subjective morality, he changes course.....
Rostos "I was wrong in my conclusion, the bible proves me incorrect, the bible does not tell me to make a judgement...I was wrong to make a judgement..."
So now Rostos is saying that he believes that murder is the same morality as a lie.
Funny.
Rostos on subjective morality:
Rostos "My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie...."
When Rostos realizes that this means he subscribes to subjective morality, he changes course.....
Rostos "I was wrong in my conclusion, the bible proves me incorrect, the bible does not tell me to make a judgement...I was wrong to make a judgement..."
So now Rostos is saying that he believes that murder is the same morality as a lie.
Funny.
Rostos -
If you believe the above, you should spend a lot of your energy fighting the criminal code that punishes murders harsher than purgerors.
Under your statement above - the fact that a murderer gets life in prison and a purgeror gets 1 month in prison is totally unjust.
You should do something about this on behalf of your god and absolute morality.
....If you don't understand this then how can you understand something written 1500 yr's before any of my knowledgable intellect??? God is christian and the other 70% of the planet are clearly mistaken, guess I'll see them all in hell
According to Rostos:
1. Stealing someones IPOD is the same as murdering someone. They are both absolutely morally wrong, and thats all you can say about it.
2. You will go to hell for using the brain that god gave you. Yes, in an incredibly cruel twist of fate, the more you use your brain in a quest for truth and evidence - the more you are punished with eternal hellfire. The more you turn off the brain god gave you and use faith, the more you will be rewarded.
It all makes perfect sense.
....If you don't understand this then how can you understand something written 1500 yr's before any of my knowledgable intellect??? God is christian and the other 70% of the planet are clearly mistaken, guess I'll see them all in hell Turn off the brain that god gave you, and turn off that free will that god gave you. You need to ignore all evidence and advancements of knowledge. Faith is the only way to heaven, and that means those pesky replicable results you get from experiments just need to be ignored.
Put your fingers in your ears and chant "nah nah nah".
The all knowing and all loving god sent his son, even though you never asked for him in the first place - and he loves you - and unless you love him back and soothe his insecurities by telling him over and over how great he is - you are going to hell.
Sorry, but thems the rules!
Rostos - it was fun. I gotta get some z's before I win money on soccer in a few hours so I leave you with this quote from Zack Galafanakis:
"I like to read the bible in public places, so when people are watching me, I murmur out to myself BULLSHIT!"
Now, tell me how I tried to make that proof that there is no god.
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