Kinda funny how you said you would answer my quesiton after I answered yours. So I answered yours, and now you wont answer mine.
That might be considered a lie, or it might be seen that you are really worried about what answering the simple question I posed to you might do to your position.
Well Rostos - I would say it is pretty shitty that you said you would answer my question, and then ran.
I think it really weakens your whole position to anybody who reads this.
If you choose to come back, the simple questions are:
1. Is murder morally worse than a lie?
2. Has the morality regarding women changed since the new testament?
I really think you are doing yourself and your god a disservice by not addressing those questions. Up until this point, I have addressed all of your questions tongiht, and I felt the conversation was civil (except for you calling me dumb on multiple occasions).
They are BOTH BELIEF systems....
Morals arent tangible, are proven...They are a belief system, like Belief in God......
I answered your questions. All of them.
Dont make yourself to be a liar. Answer mine.
1. Is murder morally worse than a lie?
2. Has the morality regarding women changed since the new testament?
They are BOTH BELIEF systems....
Morals arent tangible, are proven...They are a belief system, like Belief in God......
So saying that water is made up of 2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen is a belief?
I am glad you asked this.....
My belief as backed in the bible is that GOD;s moral law is encrypted in our hearts.......That is why the bible states that no one has an excuse.......if a child was born in the wild and wasnt taught anything by society or his parents, he will KNOW IN HIS heart that it is wrong to murder, lie etc etc, ie, Gods laws are enternched in his heart...he doesnt have to read the bible to know the moral law.........
Knowing the law and supressing the law are 2 different things.
My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie....
Well Rostos - I would say it is pretty shitty that you said you would answer my question, and then ran.
I think it really weakens your whole position to anybody who reads this.
If you choose to come back, the simple questions are:
1. Is murder morally worse than a lie?
2. Has the morality regarding women changed since the new testament?
I really think you are doing yourself and your god a disservice by not addressing those questions. Up until this point, I have addressed all of your questions tongiht, and I felt the conversation was civil (except for you calling me dumb on multiple occasions).
I have answered the 1st question.
Secondly, i suggest you look up the law regarding the Theocracy and the inplications of Christ filling the mosaic law......
I am glad you asked this.....
My belief as backed in the bible is that GOD;s moral law is encrypted in our hearts.......That is why the bible states that no one has an excuse.......if a child was born in the wild and wasnt taught anything by society or his parents, he will KNOW IN HIS heart that it is wrong to murder, lie etc etc, ie, Gods laws are enternched in his heart...he doesnt have to read the bible to know the moral law.........
Knowing the law and supressing the law are 2 different things.
My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie....
Sorry Rostos - what I bolded above is the definition of subjective morality.
Game. Set. Match.
This is not meant to be Condesending or downgrading, but i am also on another forum debating with others.
The forum is with people doing philosophy majors, and have been debating for years and years.....The standard is of a much higher sophistication, the arguments that get raised here dont even get a breath of air...The arguments here are more anti religious, based on emotion, looking at the actions of individuals as some sort of way to confirm God doesnt exist.
This is not meant to be Condesending or downgrading, but i am also on another forum debating with others.
The forum is with people doing philosophy majors, and have been debating for years and years.....The standard is of a much higher sophistication, the arguments that get raised here dont even get a breath of air...The arguments here are more anti religious, based on emotion, looking at the actions of individuals as some sort of way to confirm God doesnt exist.
Rostos "My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie...."
Subjective morality.
Sorry Rostos - what I bolded above is the definition of subjective morality.
Game. Set. Match.
Sorry bud, it isnt , because i said BOTH ARE WRONG...I never said 1 is right and 1 is wrong.
Furthermore, Jesus specifically states, you commit one sin, you have committed all of them....So are all treated the same? it is open to intrepetation what is worse...But, Jesus also says there is only 1 judge....SO it isnt upto us to determine what is worse...
Does this mean God doesnt exist?
Of course not. Neither does the catholic church systematic rape and cover up of little boys.
Just observations about reality.
Dont you find it funny that bachman, cain, and Perry all said god told them to run for president - and then all 3 lost? Dont get too deep on this one, just laugh at the obvious irony.
Moral subjectivism dictates WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG....
Just because i think murder is worse than lying, that is my opinion, doesnt mean it is right.....
For the 10th time, you dont get to make these rules.
That is not a logical rule, that is a rostos rule. You made up that rule. I do not abide by it.
The fact that you say yourself that you judge degree of moral issues mean that morality is subjective.
Rostos "My heart tells me that murdering is worse than a lie...."
Subjective morality.
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