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#2526
Offensive you're a moron. We aren't telling any stories.name one story we have told and claimed it as absolute fact when it wasn't or evidence of something when it wasn't.
If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity
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#2529
That's as good of an answer as I suspected from an atheist.
So the 8 year old girl randomly painted that painting of Jesus at 8 years old. The boy randomly chose her drawing as the Jesus he recognized from over 75 different portraits and pictures.
A lot of randomness there. Whew, I guess it's just easier to say "stories"
Posted:
#2530
To KK and System, once and for all
Jesus Christ said "love one another as i have loved you"
Jesus also said, "if someone hits on the cheek, turn the other cheek"
Ok, once and for all.......if i went and murdered someone and then i said it is because of these words from Jesus......is just as rational as that Dodgers fan saying he murdered the Giants fan because the Dodgers main message is to kill others if they lose a game...
Complete utter rubbish......You want to somehow draw a rational reason as to why Christians kill but not to the dodgers fan...
Never seen such blind stupidity in my life...
If someone murders someone, it isnt because Christ teaches him to, you want to say that somehow the connection is valid.....
Posted:
#2533
Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:
That's as good of an answer as I suspected from an atheist.
That's as good of an answer as I suspected from an atheist.
So the 8 year old girl randomly painted that painting of Jesus at 8 years old. The boy randomly chose her drawing as the Jesus he recognized from over 75 different portraits and pictures.
A lot of randomness there. Whew, I guess it's just easier to say "stories"
you mean, what people think jesus might have looked like
Posted:
#2534
Quote Originally Posted by offensivestr:
That's as good of an answer as I suspected from an atheist.
That's as good of an answer as I suspected from an atheist.
So the 8 year old girl randomly painted that painting of Jesus at 8 years old. The boy randomly chose her drawing as the Jesus he recognized from over 75 different portraits and pictures.
A lot of randomness there. Whew, I guess it's just easier to say "stories"
Your argument is a variation of the logical fallacy of confusing the currently unexplained with the unexplainable. Just because you cannot provide an answer to why these events happened doesnt mean that the events require a paranormal explaination and were an act of god.
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#2536
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
Holy shit dude, you must be playing dumb. Do you not understand what an analogy is? Why the fuck do you take everything literally?!?
In your next post I want you to define "analogy"...
I'm confident Rostos knows the meaning...it's just that when you use an analogy to make a point, it is very weak and so Rostos brings it to your attention by making another analogy and so why do you take everything he says literally? 
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#2537
all what that guy is trying to do is warn them the implications of their belief.......If i saw a truck about to hit you, i would also warn / save you.....
This is the exact point of my whole discussion......Believers have a reason, even Matt said so, but thete is no reason for the atheist to try and convince others...
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#2538
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
To KK and System, once and for all
Jesus Christ said "love one another as i have loved you"
Jesus also said, "if someone hits on the cheek, turn the other cheek"
Ok, once and for all.......if i went and murdered someone and then i said it is because of these words from Jesus......is just as rational as that Dodgers fan saying he murdered the Giants fan because the Dodgers main message is to kill others if they lose a game...
Complete utter rubbish......You want to somehow draw a rational reason as to why Christians kill but not to the dodgers fan...
Never seen such blind stupidity in my life...
If someone murders someone, it isnt because Christ teaches him to, you want to say that somehow the connection is valid.....
then why are so many christians doing such crappy things?
like I said, they are getting these ideas from somewhere...
Posted:
#2540
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
all what that guy is trying to do is warn them the implications of their belief.......If i saw a truck about to hit you, i would also warn / save you.....
This is the exact point of my whole discussion......Believers have a reason, even Matt said so, but thete is no reason for the atheist to try and convince others...
you either didn't watch the whole thing or don't understand....religion divides people instead of bringing them together...
Posted:
#2543
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
then why are so many christians doing such crappy things?
like I said, they are getting these ideas from somewhere...
I dont know, it isnt because of Christ.
At the end of the day, if i went and murdered half my neighbourhood and when they ask me why i did it, and i say because of the Red Sox.....Does that mean the Red Sox are the cause? the fault?
Why do you believe connections between people saying irrational things, ie, i killed other because of Christ but you will disregard a comment that Dodgers fans kill because there team tell them to?
Posted:
#2544
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
you either didn't watch the whole thing or don't understand....religion divides people instead of bringing them together...
Wealth does the SAME thing.
I see rich people taking advantage of others, and dividing nations, causing wars etc etc, does that meam we should get rid of all rich people?
Posted:
#2545
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
I dont know, it isnt because of Christ.
At the end of the day, if i went and murdered half my neighbourhood and when they ask me why i did it, and i say because of the Red Sox.....Does that mean the Red Sox are the cause? the fault?
Why do you believe connections between people saying irrational things, ie, i killed other because of Christ but you will disregard a comment that Dodgers fans kill because there team tell them to?
we aren't just talking about one person, we are talking about groups of people doing (and have done) immoral things in the name of religion...
Posted:
#2547
Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:
we aren't just talking about one person, we are talking about groups of people doing (and have done) immoral things in the name of religion...
How does one person take a message that says "do not murder" to go around killing people then saying i did it because of the message "do not murder"?
How?
is it the messages fault ? "do not murder?, should it be spelt differently? Is it easy to confuse with "you shoud murder".
All what you are doing is falling for peoples excuses.......
Posted:
#2548
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
How does one person take a message that says "do not murder" to go around killing people then saying i did it because of the message "do not murder"?
How?
is it the messages fault ? "do not murder?, should it be spelt differently? Is it easy to confuse with "you shoud murder".
All what you are doing is falling for peoples excuses.......
No one is saying people kill because Christ said to, but people kill IN THE NAME of religion. We're not talking specifically about christianity. People kill other people FOR their religion.
EXAMPLE: "You believe in something else, so I'll kill you." (Muslims)
EXAMPLE #2: "Believe what I believe, or I'll kill you." (Crusades)
These are just two examples. We're not saying Christ says to kill because he doesn't, but people kill IN THE NAME of their own religion.
Posted:
#2549
Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
How does one person take a message that says "do not murder" to go around killing people then saying i did it because of the message "do not murder"?
How?
is it the messages fault ? "do not murder?, should it be spelt differently? Is it easy to confuse with "you shoud murder".
All what you are doing is falling for peoples excuses.......
you tell me, and we're not just talking about murder. why do you insist on just focusing on murder?
I like how you have nothing to say about the other immoral examples I posted that come from christian groups
Posted:
#2550
Quote Originally Posted by Mikniks:
No one is saying people kill because Christ said to, but people kill IN THE NAME of religion. We're not talking specifically about christianity. People kill other people FOR their religion.
EXAMPLE: "You believe in something else, so I'll kill you." (Muslims)
EXAMPLE #2: "Believe what I believe, or I'll kill you." (Crusades)
These are just two examples. We're not saying Christ says to kill because he doesn't, but people kill IN THE NAME of their own religion.
Thats the key, dont equivocate ereligions
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