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    Grown Men living at home (Generation Y)

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    thegreat30
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 12:56 PM ET #26

    I don't get why some people are so worried about other people's lives, lifestyles, or business. What exactly have you figured out that makes you an authority on when, how, and why someone should move on from living with parents or at home?

    I think the bigger issue here is people that consider themselves to be successful usually become self righteous know-it-all's when they really don't know much of anything.

    Every system in America that allows self righteous know-it-all's too much power and control is messed up. Look at the medical system and judicial system both are failing patients and citizens far too often because they have given the power and control to pill pushers with needles and weaklings with guns and laws to which they can become judge and jury far too often.
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    I don't get why some people are so worried about other people's lives, lifestyles, or business. What exactly have you figured out that makes you an authority on when, how, and why someone should move on from living with parents or at home?

    I think the bigger issue here is people that consider themselves to be successful usually become self righteous know-it-all's when they really don't know much of anything.

    Every system in America that allows self righteous know-it-all's too much power and control is messed up. Look at the medical system and judicial system both are failing patients and citizens far too often because they have given the power and control to pill pushers with needles and weaklings with guns and laws to which they can become judge and jury far too often.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 1:01 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by gold6185:

      Living at home-there's  no real urgency to do anything. Older kids living at home are only delaying their inevitable day of reckoning of surviving in the real world.

     

    More words of wisdom.

    My last couple years of college I dated an older woman (she was 5 years older). We had a very good relationship, came very close to being the one. Along the way I befriended her older brother who was 4 years older than her so he had almost a decade on me. To this day we stay in touch (the brother and I). I invite him to my poker games. That girl is still mooching off her parents. She has stayed under either her parents roof or in one of their investment properties her entire life. Has never paid a bill and has a credit card that parents pay. STILL!

    The brother is an even sadder case. Claims some sort of disability. On the surface he seems normal, but has a mental disorder. So that's his crutch. He collects welfare and the parents pick up the rest of the tab. He had a job delivering pizza's until the car broke down. Now he gambles or sits at home.

    In both of these cases, the parents did those kids a disservice.

    I'm not going to lie to you. My mother begged me to come live at home. Explained to me how much I'd be saving on utilities, food, rent, etc., Seemed logical and enticing. I even took her up on it after my lease ended once and after 6 weeks I was right back out. I got a sense of pride writing a check to FPL or paying for cable tv. Being a real man and not mooching off their parents.

    As a father, sure I probably wont rush out my kids he day they turn 18. But I would be greatly disappointed having a 24 year old living under my roof. Those are suppose to me MY YEARS. After decades of putting up with children, I should see the fruits of my labor blossom into adults not overgrown children.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by gold6185:

      Living at home-there's  no real urgency to do anything. Older kids living at home are only delaying their inevitable day of reckoning of surviving in the real world.

     

    More words of wisdom.

    My last couple years of college I dated an older woman (she was 5 years older). We had a very good relationship, came very close to being the one. Along the way I befriended her older brother who was 4 years older than her so he had almost a decade on me. To this day we stay in touch (the brother and I). I invite him to my poker games. That girl is still mooching off her parents. She has stayed under either her parents roof or in one of their investment properties her entire life. Has never paid a bill and has a credit card that parents pay. STILL!

    The brother is an even sadder case. Claims some sort of disability. On the surface he seems normal, but has a mental disorder. So that's his crutch. He collects welfare and the parents pick up the rest of the tab. He had a job delivering pizza's until the car broke down. Now he gambles or sits at home.

    In both of these cases, the parents did those kids a disservice.

    I'm not going to lie to you. My mother begged me to come live at home. Explained to me how much I'd be saving on utilities, food, rent, etc., Seemed logical and enticing. I even took her up on it after my lease ended once and after 6 weeks I was right back out. I got a sense of pride writing a check to FPL or paying for cable tv. Being a real man and not mooching off their parents.

    As a father, sure I probably wont rush out my kids he day they turn 18. But I would be greatly disappointed having a 24 year old living under my roof. Those are suppose to me MY YEARS. After decades of putting up with children, I should see the fruits of my labor blossom into adults not overgrown children.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 1:05 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreat30:

    I don't get why some people are so worried about other people's lives, lifestyles, or business. What exactly have you figured out that makes you an authority on when, how, and why someone should move on from living with parents or at home?

    I think the bigger issue here is people that consider themselves to be successful usually become self righteous know-it-all's when they really don't know much of anything.

    Every system in America that allows self righteous know-it-all's too much power and control is messed up. Look at the medical system and judicial system both are failing patients and citizens far too often because they have given the power and control to pill pushers with needles and weaklings with guns and laws to which they can become judge and jury far too often.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreat30:

    I don't get why some people are so worried about other people's lives, lifestyles, or business. What exactly have you figured out that makes you an authority on when, how, and why someone should move on from living with parents or at home?

    I think the bigger issue here is people that consider themselves to be successful usually become self righteous know-it-all's when they really don't know much of anything.

    Every system in America that allows self righteous know-it-all's too much power and control is messed up. Look at the medical system and judicial system both are failing patients and citizens far too often because they have given the power and control to pill pushers with needles and weaklings with guns and laws to which they can become judge and jury far too often.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 1:35 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreat30:

    I don't get why some people are so worried about other people's lives, lifestyles, or business. What exactly have you figured out that makes you an authority on when, how, and why someone should move on from living with parents or at home?

    I think the bigger issue here is people that consider themselves to be successful usually become self righteous know-it-all's when they really don't know much of anything.

    Every system in America that allows self righteous know-it-all's too much power and control is messed up. Look at the medical system and judicial system both are failing patients and citizens far too often because they have given the power and control to pill pushers with needles and weaklings with guns and laws to which they can become judge and jury far too often.



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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreat30:

    I don't get why some people are so worried about other people's lives, lifestyles, or business. What exactly have you figured out that makes you an authority on when, how, and why someone should move on from living with parents or at home?

    I think the bigger issue here is people that consider themselves to be successful usually become self righteous know-it-all's when they really don't know much of anything.

    Every system in America that allows self righteous know-it-all's too much power and control is messed up. Look at the medical system and judicial system both are failing patients and citizens far too often because they have given the power and control to pill pushers with needles and weaklings with guns and laws to which they can become judge and jury far too often.



     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 1:39 PM ET #30

    For those of you with children....always remember, you CHOSE to have those kids and agreed to sign up for all the crap that goes with it. 

    Not trying to sound like a tool here but if you think that "those years are YOUR YEARS" then you might be mistaken. Maybe you shouldn't of had children if you wanted years to be yours. 
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    For those of you with children....always remember, you CHOSE to have those kids and agreed to sign up for all the crap that goes with it. 

    Not trying to sound like a tool here but if you think that "those years are YOUR YEARS" then you might be mistaken. Maybe you shouldn't of had children if you wanted years to be yours. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 2:24 PM ET #31

    By no means am I an authority or have figured something out. Im not here hiding behind my keyboard pointing at Quasi Moto and his hunchback.

    My point is to bring to light, in a general discussion forum, to a problem that I feel gets unnoticed in America. Every situation is different. I can sympathize with the young man who graduated college and his waiting tables at a steakhouse. But in his warped mind, he thinks its okay to prolong growing up. Its his life and who knows. Maybe at some point he'll catch a break. Ive had several friends who stayed even past college who have done well for themselves. Some on the other hand have been handicapped.

    Here is another specific example. A group of younger adults, about mid 20's are talking around the water cooler. One is showing the other his latest gadget, the newest fancy phone. Now as his boss, I know how much he earns and from hearsay I know he lives at home. This man is 25 years old fcuking around with expensive electronics. That's what is important to him. To have this gadget, which wasn't cheap and his cell phone bill (assuming he pays for it) is through the roof. Meanwhile he lives at home

    Am I the only one who see's a problem with this?

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    By no means am I an authority or have figured something out. Im not here hiding behind my keyboard pointing at Quasi Moto and his hunchback.

    My point is to bring to light, in a general discussion forum, to a problem that I feel gets unnoticed in America. Every situation is different. I can sympathize with the young man who graduated college and his waiting tables at a steakhouse. But in his warped mind, he thinks its okay to prolong growing up. Its his life and who knows. Maybe at some point he'll catch a break. Ive had several friends who stayed even past college who have done well for themselves. Some on the other hand have been handicapped.

    Here is another specific example. A group of younger adults, about mid 20's are talking around the water cooler. One is showing the other his latest gadget, the newest fancy phone. Now as his boss, I know how much he earns and from hearsay I know he lives at home. This man is 25 years old fcuking around with expensive electronics. That's what is important to him. To have this gadget, which wasn't cheap and his cell phone bill (assuming he pays for it) is through the roof. Meanwhile he lives at home

    Am I the only one who see's a problem with this?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 2:30 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    For those of you with children....always remember, you CHOSE to have those kids and agreed to sign up for all the crap that goes with it. 

    Not trying to sound like a tool here but if you think that "those years are YOUR YEARS" then you might be mistaken. Maybe you shouldn't of had children if you wanted years to be yours. 

     

    My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.

    Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.

    And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    For those of you with children....always remember, you CHOSE to have those kids and agreed to sign up for all the crap that goes with it. 

    Not trying to sound like a tool here but if you think that "those years are YOUR YEARS" then you might be mistaken. Maybe you shouldn't of had children if you wanted years to be yours. 

     

    My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.

    Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.

    And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 3:10 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by bizkilla:

     

    My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.

    Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.

    And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.


    Much respect bizkilla 

    You are correct. I know ZERO about fatherhood and parenting annnndddd definitely don't want to slip one by the goalie any time soon  That'd be some chit....I already live at home and now my children would live at grandma and grandpas too!  hahahaha I kid I kid.

    But yeah, every situation is different. I do recognize that I need to get my own pad or at least a roommate or something in the fairly near future. Like you said maybe I'll catch a break. We shall see. For now, I am just trying to keep chugging along, saving some coin, and chipping away at my student loan (slowlyyyyyy but surely). 

    By the way, today might be looking up. I have the UNDER 9 in the Jays/Rays game. Looking good so far. 

    Again man, no hard feelings and I look forward to shooting the chit with you here in the GD, MLB, and definitely the NFL forums. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bizkilla:

     

    My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.

    Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.

    And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.


    Much respect bizkilla 

    You are correct. I know ZERO about fatherhood and parenting annnndddd definitely don't want to slip one by the goalie any time soon  That'd be some chit....I already live at home and now my children would live at grandma and grandpas too!  hahahaha I kid I kid.

    But yeah, every situation is different. I do recognize that I need to get my own pad or at least a roommate or something in the fairly near future. Like you said maybe I'll catch a break. We shall see. For now, I am just trying to keep chugging along, saving some coin, and chipping away at my student loan (slowlyyyyyy but surely). 

    By the way, today might be looking up. I have the UNDER 9 in the Jays/Rays game. Looking good so far. 

    Again man, no hard feelings and I look forward to shooting the chit with you here in the GD, MLB, and definitely the NFL forums. 
     
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    Christ. Might of spoke too soon in that Jays game!!! 
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    Christ. Might of spoke too soon in that Jays game!!! 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 3:22 PM ET #35

    NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bart Scott summed it up best

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    I don't really like the whole growing up thing either. Someone might have went out into the world and seen more than there parents who lived in a nice quiet area for all of there years and worked steady jobs. I don't think you can base growing up solely off of being able to hold down a steady job until retirement. A lot of entertainers and athletes don't seem like models for how to grow or live your life but they can have there own material things because of money.

    I have heard and seen the tales of the sassy woman getting into a man's face about being a man. The man then decides its time to do whatever it takes even selling dope, robbing, stealing, and killing. I think you have to be careful with all of this stuff which is essentially a challenge to a man's manhood.

    The craziest thing about all of this is that this society has come up with many ways to decide who is a man or man enough. Some say its how you provide for yourself and family. Some say its rather you protect your family and what's yours or not. I am sure if you get with the wrong women hell it will be about how big your penis is or how well you darn her.

    This is a cool discussion but my major point is I am against allowing society to tell a man what makes him a good enough or big enough man. We have given this society and its rules and systems too much power and control is it stands.
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    I don't really like the whole growing up thing either. Someone might have went out into the world and seen more than there parents who lived in a nice quiet area for all of there years and worked steady jobs. I don't think you can base growing up solely off of being able to hold down a steady job until retirement. A lot of entertainers and athletes don't seem like models for how to grow or live your life but they can have there own material things because of money.

    I have heard and seen the tales of the sassy woman getting into a man's face about being a man. The man then decides its time to do whatever it takes even selling dope, robbing, stealing, and killing. I think you have to be careful with all of this stuff which is essentially a challenge to a man's manhood.

    The craziest thing about all of this is that this society has come up with many ways to decide who is a man or man enough. Some say its how you provide for yourself and family. Some say its rather you protect your family and what's yours or not. I am sure if you get with the wrong women hell it will be about how big your penis is or how well you darn her.

    This is a cool discussion but my major point is I am against allowing society to tell a man what makes him a good enough or big enough man. We have given this society and its rules and systems too much power and control is it stands.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 8:06 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by ilovethathook:

    i was 26 when i bought a house... best investment you can make
    I was 26 when I bought a house.....worst investment I could have made.  

    It's funny how a little difference in age can change your perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovethathook:

    i was 26 when i bought a house... best investment you can make
    I was 26 when I bought a house.....worst investment I could have made.  

    It's funny how a little difference in age can change your perspective.

     
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    I barely made it to 17 living with my parents I needed to experience life on my own.

    I think where this is becoming more of the norm is the inability for parents to be parents. The kids have had the control for some time now and will only continue to get worse. I'm not saying there is a problem living with your parents as many have good reasons, but at some point you must become a man and make your own rules.

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    I barely made it to 17 living with my parents I needed to experience life on my own.

    I think where this is becoming more of the norm is the inability for parents to be parents. The kids have had the control for some time now and will only continue to get worse. I'm not saying there is a problem living with your parents as many have good reasons, but at some point you must become a man and make your own rules.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRGIII:

    White men 

    why turn this into a racial thing?  

    you like an idiot
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRGIII:

    White men 

    why turn this into a racial thing?  

    you like an idiot
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:



    Good point, if black men don't know who their fathers are, and/or their fathers are in prison, it is hard to move in with them.



    and you look like an even bigger idiot...

    but whats new?
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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:



    Good point, if black men don't know who their fathers are, and/or their fathers are in prison, it is hard to move in with them.



    and you look like an even bigger idiot...

    but whats new?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 8:53 PM ET #41

    what if a kid left home at 17.5 to go to college and at 24 moves back in. does that make him any worst?

    only god can judge the man right?
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    what if a kid left home at 17.5 to go to college and at 24 moves back in. does that make him any worst?

    only god can judge the man right?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 9:27 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    and you look like an even bigger idiot...

    but whats new?


    In your case nothing, you're the same idiot in the same underwear that you were a couple months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    and you look like an even bigger idiot...

    but whats new?


    In your case nothing, you're the same idiot in the same underwear that you were a couple months ago.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotdamn85:

    what if a kid left home at 17.5 to go to college and at 24 moves back in. does that make him any worst?

    only god can judge the man right?
    Any worse then what? I think the only part that living with your parents at that age would be if you're not contributing to the household in any way. We all had those friends in college who worked just for beer money and f*cked around. You know the ones that would stay at your house and mooch off of you as well? Other then that to each his own. If it wasn't for the rules I would have stayed living with my parents at a fraction of the cost for sure. Although, that probably would have made me pretty lazy and not be able to experience some of the things I have. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotdamn85:

    what if a kid left home at 17.5 to go to college and at 24 moves back in. does that make him any worst?

    only god can judge the man right?
    Any worse then what? I think the only part that living with your parents at that age would be if you're not contributing to the household in any way. We all had those friends in college who worked just for beer money and f*cked around. You know the ones that would stay at your house and mooch off of you as well? Other then that to each his own. If it wasn't for the rules I would have stayed living with my parents at a fraction of the cost for sure. Although, that probably would have made me pretty lazy and not be able to experience some of the things I have. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 10:26 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    For those of you with children....always remember, you CHOSE to have those kids and agreed to sign up for all the crap that goes with it. 

    Not trying to sound like a tool here but if you think that "those years are YOUR YEARS" then you might be mistaken. Maybe you shouldn't of had children if you wanted years to be yours. 
    I think this is the attitude that pisses people off the most. He is probably a cool dude and he went to college and is staying with his parents paying off student debt, but he plays into that entitlement era that is becoming all to common these days. You're in your mid 20s thinking your parents owe you this, because they CHOSE to have you. 

    I don't know maybe I look at parenting a little different then most, but if any of my children are over 18 and still living with me I would take it as a personal failure that I didn't raise a man that was able to take care of himself. My daughter I might be a little more lenient with well that's just because even at 31, I still to this day don't understand women. 

    Now the transitional periods in life I will be more then happy to accommodate them, but if you stay with me for more then a year you're just taking advantage. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:

    For those of you with children....always remember, you CHOSE to have those kids and agreed to sign up for all the crap that goes with it. 

    Not trying to sound like a tool here but if you think that "those years are YOUR YEARS" then you might be mistaken. Maybe you shouldn't of had children if you wanted years to be yours. 
    I think this is the attitude that pisses people off the most. He is probably a cool dude and he went to college and is staying with his parents paying off student debt, but he plays into that entitlement era that is becoming all to common these days. You're in your mid 20s thinking your parents owe you this, because they CHOSE to have you. 

    I don't know maybe I look at parenting a little different then most, but if any of my children are over 18 and still living with me I would take it as a personal failure that I didn't raise a man that was able to take care of himself. My daughter I might be a little more lenient with well that's just because even at 31, I still to this day don't understand women. 

    Now the transitional periods in life I will be more then happy to accommodate them, but if you stay with me for more then a year you're just taking advantage. 
     
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    maybe we should blame the baby boomer parents for bankrupting this country. borrowing on their grandparents dime, and causing the subprime mess.
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    maybe we should blame the baby boomer parents for bankrupting this country. borrowing on their grandparents dime, and causing the subprime mess.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 10:40 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by hotdamn85:

    maybe we should blame the baby boomer parents for bankrupting this country. borrowing on their grandparents dime, and causing the subprime mess.
    You can blame whoever you wish, but nothing has really changed with the current generation or my generation as people are still in this free credit phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotdamn85:

    maybe we should blame the baby boomer parents for bankrupting this country. borrowing on their grandparents dime, and causing the subprime mess.
    You can blame whoever you wish, but nothing has really changed with the current generation or my generation as people are still in this free credit phase.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2013 - 11:00 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by bill702:

    I think this is the attitude that pisses people off the most. He is probably a cool dude and he went to college and is staying with his parents paying off student debt, but he plays into that entitlement era that is becoming all to common these days. You're in your mid 20s thinking your parents owe you this, because they CHOSE to have you. 

    I don't know maybe I look at parenting a little different then most, but if any of my children are over 18 and still living with me I would take it as a personal failure that I didn't raise a man that was able to take care of himself. My daughter I might be a little more lenient with well that's just because even at 31, I still to this day don't understand women. 

    Now the transitional periods in life I will be more then happy to accommodate them, but if you stay with me for more then a year you're just taking advantage. 

    I can see how this approach would piss people off. I am not trying to piss people off however. You are right, people of my generation are succumbed to the "entitlement era" and to an extent it has rubbed off on me...tough to avoid in reality. But I made the above comment in response to what the OP had said about wanting to have "his time" or whatever. Not trying to be confrontational at all here. It's an interesting topic/debate/discussion and there are a plethora of acceptable views/approaches to it, all that have limitless amounts of factors. Each situation is tailored differently I'd say. 

    But yes, like I mentioned before...I plan on and want to get out of my parents house in the very near future. I'll probably start a thread the day that happens 

    Nonetheless---I'm enjoying the convo 

    PS----come on Red Sox RL  blowing it here in the 7th
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill702:

    I think this is the attitude that pisses people off the most. He is probably a cool dude and he went to college and is staying with his parents paying off student debt, but he plays into that entitlement era that is becoming all to common these days. You're in your mid 20s thinking your parents owe you this, because they CHOSE to have you. 

    I don't know maybe I look at parenting a little different then most, but if any of my children are over 18 and still living with me I would take it as a personal failure that I didn't raise a man that was able to take care of himself. My daughter I might be a little more lenient with well that's just because even at 31, I still to this day don't understand women. 

    Now the transitional periods in life I will be more then happy to accommodate them, but if you stay with me for more then a year you're just taking advantage. 

    I can see how this approach would piss people off. I am not trying to piss people off however. You are right, people of my generation are succumbed to the "entitlement era" and to an extent it has rubbed off on me...tough to avoid in reality. But I made the above comment in response to what the OP had said about wanting to have "his time" or whatever. Not trying to be confrontational at all here. It's an interesting topic/debate/discussion and there are a plethora of acceptable views/approaches to it, all that have limitless amounts of factors. Each situation is tailored differently I'd say. 

    But yes, like I mentioned before...I plan on and want to get out of my parents house in the very near future. I'll probably start a thread the day that happens 

    Nonetheless---I'm enjoying the convo 

    PS----come on Red Sox RL  blowing it here in the 7th
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:


    I can see how this approach would piss people off. I am not trying to piss people off however. You are right, people of my generation are succumbed to the "entitlement era" and to an extent it has rubbed off on me...tough to avoid in reality. But I made the above comment in response to what the OP had said about wanting to have "his time" or whatever. Not trying to be confrontational at all here. It's an interesting topic/debate/discussion and there are a plethora of acceptable views/approaches to it, all that have limitless amounts of factors. Each situation is tailored differently I'd say. 

    But yes, like I mentioned before...I plan on and want to get out of my parents house in the very near future. I'll probably start a thread the day that happens 

    Nonetheless---I'm enjoying the convo 

    PS----come on Red Sox RL  blowing it here in the 7th
    Yea, I will definitely say it's tailored to the individual and wouldn't question that at all. I would say from personal experiences with friends/colleagues that you're the exception to the rule and with you currently working in the service field I'm sure you have seen the ones I am talking about. The 20 and 30 year olds that the server job is going to be the best they get in life, unfortunately I probably generalize to much and speak towards the majority.You do have that entitlement ideology, but you still worked for that degree and you're working towards finding what you actually want to do in life. You're the one that was trying to be a teacher right? I probably associate people's avatar and what they say too much so it might not even be you.

    I was just using your comment to demonstrate my point and wasn't speaking directly towards you. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:


    I can see how this approach would piss people off. I am not trying to piss people off however. You are right, people of my generation are succumbed to the "entitlement era" and to an extent it has rubbed off on me...tough to avoid in reality. But I made the above comment in response to what the OP had said about wanting to have "his time" or whatever. Not trying to be confrontational at all here. It's an interesting topic/debate/discussion and there are a plethora of acceptable views/approaches to it, all that have limitless amounts of factors. Each situation is tailored differently I'd say. 

    But yes, like I mentioned before...I plan on and want to get out of my parents house in the very near future. I'll probably start a thread the day that happens 

    Nonetheless---I'm enjoying the convo 

    PS----come on Red Sox RL  blowing it here in the 7th
    Yea, I will definitely say it's tailored to the individual and wouldn't question that at all. I would say from personal experiences with friends/colleagues that you're the exception to the rule and with you currently working in the service field I'm sure you have seen the ones I am talking about. The 20 and 30 year olds that the server job is going to be the best they get in life, unfortunately I probably generalize to much and speak towards the majority.You do have that entitlement ideology, but you still worked for that degree and you're working towards finding what you actually want to do in life. You're the one that was trying to be a teacher right? I probably associate people's avatar and what they say too much so it might not even be you.

    I was just using your comment to demonstrate my point and wasn't speaking directly towards you. 
     
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    bill702----yes, I am the one attempting to become a teacher (much tougher than one would think) the job market for teachers in my area is flooded. So I am open to almost anything that might get me started in a career. I actually had an interview for an assistant managers position at Hollister yesterday (yes, the same Hollister that is owned by Abercrombie and Fitch and that is super DOUCHEY). Hahahahahaha I by no means wear their clothes (mainly because they are designed for freaking teenagers lmao....I love the 40 year old men that still don't realize this . Seemed semi promising so I will see where that leads. 

    And yeah, being in the service industry you learn that it is full of deadbeats, drug addicts, alcoholics, the list could go on and on. However, there are some good people that wait tables (I like to think of myself as one of them)....it's definitely a tough job but there is ZERO gratification in it. But it can be entertaining and for the most part, my coworkers are cool (despite their slew of problems). But it's time for me to get real, I need something with more substance...I've been waiting tables almost 2 years now and I can say I've just about had my fill 

    I'm young and open to anything that comes my way. I love to sports bet (especially football and baseball, mainly football) and love to play poker..traits i learned from my grandpa whom was a bookie. It'll probably always be in my blood for sure. My dream would be to be a pro gambler living in Vegas lmao but I am a very realistic person and that probably won't happen. At least not in the next 10 years haha. Some times I go check out the "Las Vegas" forum and read all the horror stories of people that are trying to do that. Instant reality check.

    On a lighter night come on SOX RL! Big Papi up to bat in the 8th 2 on 1 out....
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    bill702----yes, I am the one attempting to become a teacher (much tougher than one would think) the job market for teachers in my area is flooded. So I am open to almost anything that might get me started in a career. I actually had an interview for an assistant managers position at Hollister yesterday (yes, the same Hollister that is owned by Abercrombie and Fitch and that is super DOUCHEY). Hahahahahaha I by no means wear their clothes (mainly because they are designed for freaking teenagers lmao....I love the 40 year old men that still don't realize this . Seemed semi promising so I will see where that leads. 

    And yeah, being in the service industry you learn that it is full of deadbeats, drug addicts, alcoholics, the list could go on and on. However, there are some good people that wait tables (I like to think of myself as one of them)....it's definitely a tough job but there is ZERO gratification in it. But it can be entertaining and for the most part, my coworkers are cool (despite their slew of problems). But it's time for me to get real, I need something with more substance...I've been waiting tables almost 2 years now and I can say I've just about had my fill 

    I'm young and open to anything that comes my way. I love to sports bet (especially football and baseball, mainly football) and love to play poker..traits i learned from my grandpa whom was a bookie. It'll probably always be in my blood for sure. My dream would be to be a pro gambler living in Vegas lmao but I am a very realistic person and that probably won't happen. At least not in the next 10 years haha. Some times I go check out the "Las Vegas" forum and read all the horror stories of people that are trying to do that. Instant reality check.

    On a lighter night come on SOX RL! Big Papi up to bat in the 8th 2 on 1 out....
     
     
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