First installment of Crazy Christians for 2013

Sorry, kk, but you cannot say objective morality does not exist, if you can't prove God doesn't exist.

Objective morality does not exist, only if God doesn't exist.

Objective moral values, I mean values which are valid and binding whether people believe in them or not and so it is independent of human opinion.

Actions like rape, cruelty, racial hatred, and child abuse aren't just socially unacceptable behavior. They are truly evil.

The man who says it is morally acceptable to murder innocent children is just as mistaken as the man who says 2+2=5, and the man who says it is morally acceptable to rape little children.

Some things, at least, are truly evil.

But, if that is the case, then it follows logically and inescapably that

Therefore God exists.

Some people think that evil in the world provides "overwhelming evidence" against the existence of God.

I think the exact opposite is true. Real evil in the world actually serves to prove the existence of God, since without God to ground objective moral values, good and evil as such would not exist.

Ooops sorry I forgot my mic...lol

Every single person has faith. I dont care what anyone says, every single person has faith. Faith is the belief of all things unseen.

We draw out faith from evidences around us and deductive logically from these evidences. Here are some examples.

There are 2 airline companies, Company A and Company B

Comapny A has a 100% safety record, Company B has a 60% safety record.

Which ever plane you hop on, there is no guarantee, 100% proof/evidence that the plane wont crash, including plane A.

When looking which plane to fly, it would take less faith to hop on plane A than plane B, however, it still requires faith.

If you want to marry a girl, it requires a greater leap of faith to marry a girl who has had 10 divorces in her life as opposed to another girl who has never been married before. However, it still requires faith to marry the girl as no one can give you evidence, proof that if you marry the firl who has never been married , you will not break up with her.

Every single person practices faith every day in a variety of things they do. When you bet on a team, you have faith that the team will play hard, etc etc. Nevertheless, you dont have evidence that they will play hard, you have faith they do.

Remember, examine the evidences around you and reasonably deduct where you put your evidences.

Look at the world, did the universe pop into existence from nothing? did the constants of the universe just so happen to sit exactly where they are to the millionth degree to allow life permitting conditions? Did a lightning rod happen to just hit a pond somewhere for life to start occuring?  You see, their is a ridicolous amount of luck for all this to happen. We dont even have to go that far.

Here is the deal breaker, all the evidence we have is that the universe began to exist, space time and matter began to exist, that is, prior to this, space, time and matter did not exist. Did these create itself out of nothing?

I have been told by Atheists when explaining this argument, you see, you dont know something cant come from nothing. You see how the Atheists are completely changing their level of epistomology here. No way in their daily lives they would ever believe something can come from nothing, but when this argument comes up, they resort to "how do you know it coant happen".

It takes an enormous amount of faith, actually, you would be called ridicolous if you believe something can come from nothing.

That is a logical contradiction, you simply described yourself as a married bachelor......

Right, just like i am Christian that doesnt believe in God......

System, you think you can bull$hit your way around here......?

O yes they are...

Faith is the belief if things UNSEEN.....

Have you seen that you will land safely when you fly next time? No

Have you seen that you will wake up the next day? No

Have you seen that the chef wont poison you the next time you go out and eat? No

Have you seen that a drunk driver will not crash into you next time you drive? No

You see System, these are the faiths that you have every day in your life. You havent seen that none of the above will happen to you, you dont know for a fact, you have a BELIEF based on evidences around you.

What do you believe caused the universe? Natural or supernatural?

Atheist - Natural

Agnostic - I dont know

Systeme - Natural and i dont know......

Married bachelor............

So prior knowledge / experience means you know for a 100% fact that the same will be repeated?