First installment of Crazy Christians for 2013

Pretty solid? Against what standard? Dont you get it? Under Atheism there is no objective morality, so how can you say you are solid when there is no standard to measure it against? Your view of your own morality under Atheism is nothing more an illusion.

but i tell you i'm not a hypocrite like family values politicians or religious leader who go on and on about happy people and then get divorced or ignore domestic violence and child molestation and many things the bible says are abominations.  i have no problrm with imperfect people, hypocrites are a different story because they are all about manipulating the lesser people to suit their agendas which usually results in more money and power for them.

I agree with you, but who goes around proclaiming that are morally perfect beings? Do religious leaders do it? I havent heard it. It is something you assume in your head. Where has a religious leader said they are better than anyone else. Sure they can communicate what is written in scripture, but that doesnt automatically they are practising it. Just because someone is communicating a message, does mean they are self proclaiming a message that they do it. If they werent sinners themselves, then their would be no reason for them to be Chrsitian.

If i go and rape a woman and i am a Catholic, can a link be established between my belief in a doctrine which teaches the acts as i laid out above and my actions?

we'll try this one more time.  brother system and kk have tried to explain this to you.  if you are a catholic and rape some chick, it would not come under the scrutiny of the Church of ClubDirt et al.  now, if you did it and tried to justtify it with your religion, that would be different.  or, when it happens in hardcore muslim countries and the perpetrator gets away with it or gets a slap on the wrist because they interpret islam as marginalizing women, that's different.  when the victim is a little boy and the church covefrs it up, that's different.

What does the Catholic Church have to do with me raping? They arent a law enforcing agency. Furthermore, i dont care about Islam. This is about your bashing of Christians which comes about from your insecurities.

so when a person commits a crime and he happens to be christian, muslim, black, white skinhead or whatever group, so be it,.  it happens all of the time.  but when the person uses his group's "values" to justify it or uses his group to manipulate victims or cover up the crime or to justify the crime or the racism or the bigotry, then that's when the person and the group needs to be called out.

This is non sequter. The christian Doctrine clearly teaches to love each other, not to murder, steal lie and rape. How can one use these values to justify there actions? I am at a loss. Sure they can cover up, but this is a completely different issue.

Why do you believe them? because they say so? Again, i am a Catholic, if i go and murder someone and say i did it because of Christianity, you will believe me? Or am i saying it as an excuse to take the blame off myself? My question is, instead of just being gullable and believing everything they say, why dont you read the Doctrine and see if its true. Where is Christianity does it instruct you to do bad things? Where?

Club........Seeing as though as soon as a Christian does something bad, and you jump all over it....why didnt you post this story? It was all over the news / web when it came up? Oh, it might put a Christian in a good light, but thats not your thing is it?

In explaining why he didn't keep the ring, Harris said he had a religious upbringing.

"My grandfather was a reverend," Harris said.

"He raised me from the time I was six months old and thank the good Lord, it's a blessing, but I do still have some character."

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/homeless-man-rewarded-by-kindness-of-strangers/story-fnejo58q-1226586286621

Your problem here is your presupposition of naturalism. IF God exists and he willed Noahs arc etc, why isnt it possible?

In regards to the flood. God is the giver of life and he has the right to take llife. He isnt under anyone obligation to extend life. If he wants to take it, he has authority to take it.

WHy didnt you post it? You seem to have an eye on the news and latest events.......You seem to have only posted the negatives...this was a simple search / eye on things...You wouldnt want to be accused if biased would you?

Why do you believe them? because they say so? Again, i am a Catholic, if i go and murder someone and say i did it because of Christianity, you will believe me? Or am i saying it as an excuse to take the blame off myself? My question is, instead of just being gullable and believing everything they say, why dont you read the Doctrine and see if its true. Where is Christianity does it instruct you to do bad things? Where?

Thats my point, if Jesus says my main message is to love each other and forgive each other, then i go out and murder someone...Is it Christianity's message and motive making me murder?

If i turned around and said Jesus made me do it...I mean seriously......Would you believe me? No you wouldnt, so why bring it up? 

This is your presupposition of naturalism.....

If God exists, isnt it possible someone rises fromn the dead? if God doesnt exist, then someone cannot rise from the dead.

If God exists , isnt it possible for the story of Noah to be true? If God doesnt exist, then the story cannot be true.

See how your presuppositions of naturalism affects your way of thinking?

Thats my point, if Jesus says my main message is to love each other and forgive each other, then i go out and murder someone...Is it Christianity's message and motive making me murder?

If i turned around and said Jesus made me do it...I mean seriously......Would you believe me? No you wouldnt, so why bring it up?