Quote Originally Posted by GSP10:
1. Yes he does because something is possible within come from natures laws it doesn't mean that is what happened. You are taking faith in the big bang THEORY.
2. You haven't seen the big bang or any scientist hasn't seen the big bang themselves. Doing an re-enactment proves empirically that it happened? So i go to a Christian play that re-an acts there particular god. I can say I've seen how the world began....
3.No basis for your ad homem attack here. The religious percan say if you don't believe in god than Hahahaha too. Seriously explain how do you know empirically that an electron exists? Because you have FAiTH in science? You have been told that at school? Have you ever seen an electron?
1. No I don't. I'm not the one making extraordinary claims. As the great Christopher Hitchens once said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". I'm not the one making any claims at all. I don't know what happened to kick start this big thing or what happens after we die. I know what side I lean towards but I don't know for sure. Neither side has provided solid, empirical evidence.
However, to say that there is a Heaven/Hell but to not give the same probability of the Big Bang theory happening is a fallacy. Rostos clearly believes in one and not the other without any evidence proving either side. I readily admit that I do not know because I have not been presented with enough evidence.
2. If you're looking for re-enactments, then so am I. I want to see Noah's Ark recreated, then I want to see how all the animals that weren't on the ark came to be. To paraphrase the hilarious Jim Jeffries, I'm pretty sure he didn't have kangaroos on the ark since they weren't known to exist. How did they survive the flood? Or were they created afterwards through some process, probably similar to evolution? I don't know, maybe you can help me out with that one?
I would also like to see a virgin birth, someone walk on water, and someone live in the belly of a whale for a few days while we are at it. You're referencing a book that was written a few thousand years ago, during a team in which barely anyone could read or write and has had to have been translated a few times into different languages.
I'm pretty sure you might be able to see where my skepticism in the bible might come from.
3. As far as electrons, from the little that I do know about them, they are all around us. I'm going to trust a few hundred years of science that has been scrutinized and retested countless times over a book that seems closer to fairy tale than truth. Sorry, I'm just a logical type of person I guess.
That's what I like about science though. It readily admits that there is no absolute truth and that its results and methods can always be improved upon.
Unlike religion which makes no attempts to improve the probability of it's conclusions and relies on dated stories which seem extremely far fetched. On top of that, it essentially threatens non believers with eternal damnation for not believing in its thoughts and statements without providing any evidence that non believers should have faith in its thoughts and ideas.
Convincing people through fear is not faith.
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