Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:
This is a horrible argument.
You said, God would be better off not coming into our lives. I gave a response to this, to which now you are arguing about proofs? Your initial statement to which I responded to presupposed God exists, otherwise, you wouldn't say what you did. You are now changing the category of the argument which is non sequitur.
This is a completely different argument now in terms of evidence for God' existence.
In terms of what you like about Atheism. 2 responses, firstly, whose business is it to tell you are going to hell? If a Christian says it then they are going against Jesus' words. Secondly, if you like Nihilism, then good luck to you.
Religion would be better off not coming into our lives. The existence of God is still up in the air to me. If I said God then I apologize, that is not what I meant to say.
Religion tells me that if I do not follow their beliefs then I am going to hell. Maybe not every religion, but Islam and Christianity, the two big ones in my part of the world, do. Whether that's against their books of faith, I don't know. I have listened to enough preachers and Imams (I think that is what they are referred to in Islam) to know that is what they believe.
Saying that I like or believe in Hihilism because I don't believe in religion, or even God for that matter, is absurd. People are more than capable of living meaningful lives without believing in God or religion. How about living for the sake of others around you, your family and friends, or just to make the world a better place?
I don't need any book, doctrine, or religious moral beliefs to instill a sense of self worth, nor does anyone else on this planet.
If you want to believe in religion than by all means have at it. I'm not going to stand in your way or anyone else's. What I do see however, and maybe this is different in your part of the world, is people actively trying to get anyone that will listen to convert to their way of living and their belief structure, and threaten the absolute worst if you don't. They knock on doors, stand outside of stadium venues or areas where masses of people will be and hold signs, and chase people down as they are walking down the street minding their own business in an effort to get their message across.
It's not the worst thing that has ever happened to me. However I have had numerous people try and get me to convert to their way of life and belief structure. I have never, ever, once had an athiest or agnostic person try and do that.
I don't see how not believing in religion or a higher being leads automatically leads to nihilism.
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