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    Good article about types of bread

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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 1:39 PM ET #1

    And how corporations try to deceive us into thinking we are buying healthy, nutritional products and in fact we are not-

    link

    Go and tell me that adding some food coloring and a shake of bran isnt intentionally trying to deceive people.

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    And how corporations try to deceive us into thinking we are buying healthy, nutritional products and in fact we are not-

    link

    Go and tell me that adding some food coloring and a shake of bran isnt intentionally trying to deceive people.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 2:07 PM ET #2

    Labeling the breads is quite funny.  Saw one that was making a big deal about "Wheat" flour...... Isn't like all flour wheat

    I think the best way to sort through it is to check out the fiber grams.

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    Labeling the breads is quite funny.  Saw one that was making a big deal about "Wheat" flour...... Isn't like all flour wheat

    I think the best way to sort through it is to check out the fiber grams.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 3:04 PM ET #3

    Eating ryebread is always good
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    Eating ryebread is always good
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 3:19 PM ET #4

    One thing can do is switch from flour to corn tortillas.  But then needs more sour cream to make up for it
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    One thing can do is switch from flour to corn tortillas.  But then needs more sour cream to make up for it
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 3:35 PM ET #5

    Like the article said, enriched and flour are garbage..refined and stuffed with chemical vitamins etc.

    The only kind to choose is whole wheat, not whole grains etc.

    I always read the label and figure out if the bread company is full of sh!t and trying to deceive.
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    Like the article said, enriched and flour are garbage..refined and stuffed with chemical vitamins etc.

    The only kind to choose is whole wheat, not whole grains etc.

    I always read the label and figure out if the bread company is full of sh!t and trying to deceive.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 3:37 PM ET #6

    They probably trick 90% of bread customers with the caramel coloring.  I didn't figure that out until a year or two ago
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    They probably trick 90% of bread customers with the caramel coloring.  I didn't figure that out until a year or two ago
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 3:54 PM ET #7

    bread

    rye bread

    don't make me bring sharpaction in here

    until then, read this

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    bread

    rye bread

    don't make me bring sharpaction in here

    until then, read this

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 4:22 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    bread

    rye bread

    don't make me bring sharpaction in here

    until then, read this


    Just getting started but it looks great so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    bread

    rye bread

    don't make me bring sharpaction in here

    until then, read this


    Just getting started but it looks great so far.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 4:26 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

    Labeling the breads is quite funny.  Saw one that was making a big deal about "Wheat" flour...... Isn't like all flour wheat

    I think the best way to sort through it is to check out the fiber grams.



    Dietary fiber in particular.
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    Labeling the breads is quite funny.  Saw one that was making a big deal about "Wheat" flour...... Isn't like all flour wheat

    I think the best way to sort through it is to check out the fiber grams.



    Dietary fiber in particular.
     
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    I did the low carb diet for a while years ago and it was tough..especially getting off sugars, I have a sweet tooth and it would be very hard to cut out sugars AND flour.

    Not so sure I would enjoy de-evolving back to roots and odd greens that people did thousands of years ago.
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    I did the low carb diet for a while years ago and it was tough..especially getting off sugars, I have a sweet tooth and it would be very hard to cut out sugars AND flour.

    Not so sure I would enjoy de-evolving back to roots and odd greens that people did thousands of years ago.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I did the low carb diet for a while years ago and it was tough..especially getting off sugars, I have a sweet tooth and it would be very hard to cut out sugars AND flour.

    Not so sure I would enjoy de-evolving back to roots and odd greens that people did thousands of years ago.

    For most people, it is easier to cut those two food groups out than other food groops..... like meat, or dairy or something.  Most everybody can go without sugar but cutting out meat would be rough. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I did the low carb diet for a while years ago and it was tough..especially getting off sugars, I have a sweet tooth and it would be very hard to cut out sugars AND flour.

    Not so sure I would enjoy de-evolving back to roots and odd greens that people did thousands of years ago.

    For most people, it is easier to cut those two food groups out than other food groops..... like meat, or dairy or something.  Most everybody can go without sugar but cutting out meat would be rough. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 5:24 PM ET #12

    I can cut out most meats quite easily, never been a huge steak fan and eat fish and moderately chicken..also dont drink a ton of milk, just in ice cream mostly.

    Having a sweet tooth and being a baker makes eliminating grains quite difficult.

    I do agree about corn as a grain though, terrible stuff and quite hard to digest or utilize what it contains.
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    I can cut out most meats quite easily, never been a huge steak fan and eat fish and moderately chicken..also dont drink a ton of milk, just in ice cream mostly.

    Having a sweet tooth and being a baker makes eliminating grains quite difficult.

    I do agree about corn as a grain though, terrible stuff and quite hard to digest or utilize what it contains.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 5:51 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I can cut out most meats quite easily, never been a huge steak fan and eat fish and moderately chicken..also dont drink a ton of milk, just in ice cream mostly.

    Having a sweet tooth and being a baker makes eliminating grains quite difficult.

    I do agree about corn as a grain though, terrible stuff and quite hard to digest or utilize what it contains.

    if you look into that website i posted and do some research into the paleo diet, they say meats are fine.  i like desserts too but i just try to limit them and then stay away from other carbs.  no need to drink any of these sugra drinks or eat a lot of bread, etc. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I can cut out most meats quite easily, never been a huge steak fan and eat fish and moderately chicken..also dont drink a ton of milk, just in ice cream mostly.

    Having a sweet tooth and being a baker makes eliminating grains quite difficult.

    I do agree about corn as a grain though, terrible stuff and quite hard to digest or utilize what it contains.

    if you look into that website i posted and do some research into the paleo diet, they say meats are fine.  i like desserts too but i just try to limit them and then stay away from other carbs.  no need to drink any of these sugra drinks or eat a lot of bread, etc. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    if you look into that website i posted and do some research into the paleo diet, they say meats are fine.  i like desserts too but i just try to limit them and then stay away from other carbs.  no need to drink any of these sugra drinks or eat a lot of bread, etc. 


    I will check that out, I read the article in full detail.

    So do you work around things with the diet, meaning when I was on the Atkins long ago they had work arounds for sweets. And what has been your results since changing?
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    if you look into that website i posted and do some research into the paleo diet, they say meats are fine.  i like desserts too but i just try to limit them and then stay away from other carbs.  no need to drink any of these sugra drinks or eat a lot of bread, etc. 


    I will check that out, I read the article in full detail.

    So do you work around things with the diet, meaning when I was on the Atkins long ago they had work arounds for sweets. And what has been your results since changing?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I will check that out, I read the article in full detail.

    So do you work around things with the diet, meaning when I was on the Atkins long ago they had work arounds for sweets. And what has been your results since changing?

    Any diet is better than eating sweets.  It's empty calories.  Meat has nutrients.

    I can't go 36 hours without craving meat.  Can go 6 months without noticing sugar.  Your body just doesn't need it.

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    I will check that out, I read the article in full detail.

    So do you work around things with the diet, meaning when I was on the Atkins long ago they had work arounds for sweets. And what has been your results since changing?

    Any diet is better than eating sweets.  It's empty calories.  Meat has nutrients.

    I can't go 36 hours without craving meat.  Can go 6 months without noticing sugar.  Your body just doesn't need it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2011 - 6:52 PM ET #16

    And then you got your meat sub groups.....

    Pork, beef, chicken

    Gotta hit pork once a week and beef at least every 48 hours.  Your body will actually tell you it wants meat.

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    And then you got your meat sub groups.....

    Pork, beef, chicken

    Gotta hit pork once a week and beef at least every 48 hours.  Your body will actually tell you it wants meat.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I will check that out, I read the article in full detail.

    So do you work around things with the diet, meaning when I was on the Atkins long ago they had work arounds for sweets. And what has been your results since changing?

    i usually eat my best from march to september, when there are races i want to participate in because i can definitely tell the difference.  if i understand you correctly, i don't really work around sweets.  i just cut them out as a general practice and sort of reward myself with a nice dessert every now and then.  i view sugar calories like money.  i'm not going to spend a few every day or two on small things.  if i'm going to spend that money, or consume sugar calories, i'm going to do it rarely but only on something i like, like ice cream with my kids or a nice dessert at a nice restaurant. but outside of those instances, i try to avoid them.  so, no sugar drinks, no cereals, no cookies, no low fat or fat free shit with sugar.  i always read ingednients.  it's scary how many products have some type of sugar.    

    but if anything could be considered a work around for sugar, i guess it would be fruit.  many fruits are high in carbs so you don't want to go crazy with things like grapes, watermelon, bananas and pears, but i make a smoothies every morning with a berry mix (raspberries, bluberries and blackberries) and an apple after lunch and maybe some apricots or a few grapes after dinner.  that's more than enough carbs

    when i'm not eating as well (oct - feb), i still try and stick to the same plan (i.e. i'm not going to nickel and dime myself with smaller things that have sugar), but i'll get a dessert that counts a little more often.  

    outside of the occasional rum and coke at a bar for lack of a better option, i can't remember the last sugar drink i had.  i probably couldn't even finish a sprite or coke.  

    as for results, i'm almost 40 and my metabolism has definitely slowed down.  it became noticeable about 5 years ago.  so, i'm not really looking to get great results but rather maintain what came pretty easy in my 20's and early 30's.  my exercising stays pretty steady throughout the year but i definitely get softer when i'm allowing a few more desserts a month and eat more bread than i should.  

    there's nothing like cutting out sugar.  so, when i stick to the nuts, vegetables, meat and fruit diet, i can tell the difference in my training, the way i feel and my body fat.  i think these concepts are undeniable.  i fluctate.  when i'm eating just right, there's a big difference.  but it's hard to do it continually.  one, becuse it's hard and i like desserts and bread.  and two, my wife isn't exactly on board 100% and she does the cooking and also likes to go out to eat so there are definitely setbacks and i feel them.

    i probably eat better than the overwhelming majority of people but it's all relative.  and if this is new to someone, i think you have to ease into it.  but some stuff, like sugar drinks and fast food, you'll leave behind and neve miss them.

    july is usually a bad month for a few reasons.  on august 7, i'm going to clean things up and incorporate a little detox.  i'll let you know how it goes.  

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    I will check that out, I read the article in full detail.

    So do you work around things with the diet, meaning when I was on the Atkins long ago they had work arounds for sweets. And what has been your results since changing?

    i usually eat my best from march to september, when there are races i want to participate in because i can definitely tell the difference.  if i understand you correctly, i don't really work around sweets.  i just cut them out as a general practice and sort of reward myself with a nice dessert every now and then.  i view sugar calories like money.  i'm not going to spend a few every day or two on small things.  if i'm going to spend that money, or consume sugar calories, i'm going to do it rarely but only on something i like, like ice cream with my kids or a nice dessert at a nice restaurant. but outside of those instances, i try to avoid them.  so, no sugar drinks, no cereals, no cookies, no low fat or fat free shit with sugar.  i always read ingednients.  it's scary how many products have some type of sugar.    

    but if anything could be considered a work around for sugar, i guess it would be fruit.  many fruits are high in carbs so you don't want to go crazy with things like grapes, watermelon, bananas and pears, but i make a smoothies every morning with a berry mix (raspberries, bluberries and blackberries) and an apple after lunch and maybe some apricots or a few grapes after dinner.  that's more than enough carbs

    when i'm not eating as well (oct - feb), i still try and stick to the same plan (i.e. i'm not going to nickel and dime myself with smaller things that have sugar), but i'll get a dessert that counts a little more often.  

    outside of the occasional rum and coke at a bar for lack of a better option, i can't remember the last sugar drink i had.  i probably couldn't even finish a sprite or coke.  

    as for results, i'm almost 40 and my metabolism has definitely slowed down.  it became noticeable about 5 years ago.  so, i'm not really looking to get great results but rather maintain what came pretty easy in my 20's and early 30's.  my exercising stays pretty steady throughout the year but i definitely get softer when i'm allowing a few more desserts a month and eat more bread than i should.  

    there's nothing like cutting out sugar.  so, when i stick to the nuts, vegetables, meat and fruit diet, i can tell the difference in my training, the way i feel and my body fat.  i think these concepts are undeniable.  i fluctate.  when i'm eating just right, there's a big difference.  but it's hard to do it continually.  one, becuse it's hard and i like desserts and bread.  and two, my wife isn't exactly on board 100% and she does the cooking and also likes to go out to eat so there are definitely setbacks and i feel them.

    i probably eat better than the overwhelming majority of people but it's all relative.  and if this is new to someone, i think you have to ease into it.  but some stuff, like sugar drinks and fast food, you'll leave behind and neve miss them.

    july is usually a bad month for a few reasons.  on august 7, i'm going to clean things up and incorporate a little detox.  i'll let you know how it goes.  

     
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    i usually eat my best from march to september, when there are races i want to participate in because i can definitely tell the difference.  if i understand you correctly, i don't really work around sweets.  i just cut them out as a general practice and sort of reward myself with a nice dessert every now and then.  i view sugar calories like money.  i'm not going to spend a few every day or two on small things.  if i'm going to spend that money, or consume sugar calories, i'm going to do it rarely but only on something i like, like ice cream with my kids or a nice dessert at a nice restaurant. but outside of those instances, i try to avoid them.  so, no sugar drinks, no cereals, no cookies, no low fat or fat free shit with sugar.  i always read ingednients.  it's scary how many products have some type of sugar.    

    but if anything could be considered a work around for sugar, i guess it would be fruit.  many fruits are high in carbs so you don't want to go crazy with things like grapes, watermelon, bananas and pears, but i make a smoothies every morning with a berry mix (raspberries, bluberries and blackberries) and an apple after lunch and maybe some apricots or a few grapes after dinner.  that's more than enough carbs

    when i'm not eating as well (oct - feb), i still try and stick to the same plan (i.e. i'm not going to nickel and dime myself with smaller things that have sugar), but i'll get a dessert that counts a little more often.  

    outside of the occasional rum and coke at a bar for lack of a better option, i can't remember the last sugar drink i had.  i probably couldn't even finish a sprite or coke.  

    as for results, i'm almost 40 and my metabolism has definitely slowed down.  it became noticeable about 5 years ago.  so, i'm not really looking to get great results but rather maintain what came pretty easy in my 20's and early 30's.  my exercising stays pretty steady throughout the year but i definitely get softer when i'm allowing a few more desserts a month and eat more bread than i should.  

    there's nothing like cutting out sugar.  so, when i stick to the nuts, vegetables, meat and fruit diet, i can tell the difference in my training, the way i feel and my body fat.  i think these concepts are undeniable.  i fluctate.  when i'm eating just right, there's a big difference.  but it's hard to do it continually.  one, becuse it's hard and i like desserts and bread.  and two, my wife isn't exactly on board 100% and she does the cooking and also likes to go out to eat so there are definitely setbacks and i feel them.

    i probably eat better than the overwhelming majority of people but it's all relative.  and if this is new to someone, i think you have to ease into it.  but some stuff, like sugar drinks and fast food, you'll leave behind and neve miss them.

    july is usually a bad month for a few reasons.  on august 7, i'm going to clean things up and incorporate a little detox.  i'll let you know how it goes.  

    Only 2 reasons for sugar is right there

     

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    i usually eat my best from march to september, when there are races i want to participate in because i can definitely tell the difference.  if i understand you correctly, i don't really work around sweets.  i just cut them out as a general practice and sort of reward myself with a nice dessert every now and then.  i view sugar calories like money.  i'm not going to spend a few every day or two on small things.  if i'm going to spend that money, or consume sugar calories, i'm going to do it rarely but only on something i like, like ice cream with my kids or a nice dessert at a nice restaurant. but outside of those instances, i try to avoid them.  so, no sugar drinks, no cereals, no cookies, no low fat or fat free shit with sugar.  i always read ingednients.  it's scary how many products have some type of sugar.    

    but if anything could be considered a work around for sugar, i guess it would be fruit.  many fruits are high in carbs so you don't want to go crazy with things like grapes, watermelon, bananas and pears, but i make a smoothies every morning with a berry mix (raspberries, bluberries and blackberries) and an apple after lunch and maybe some apricots or a few grapes after dinner.  that's more than enough carbs

    when i'm not eating as well (oct - feb), i still try and stick to the same plan (i.e. i'm not going to nickel and dime myself with smaller things that have sugar), but i'll get a dessert that counts a little more often.  

    outside of the occasional rum and coke at a bar for lack of a better option, i can't remember the last sugar drink i had.  i probably couldn't even finish a sprite or coke.  

    as for results, i'm almost 40 and my metabolism has definitely slowed down.  it became noticeable about 5 years ago.  so, i'm not really looking to get great results but rather maintain what came pretty easy in my 20's and early 30's.  my exercising stays pretty steady throughout the year but i definitely get softer when i'm allowing a few more desserts a month and eat more bread than i should.  

    there's nothing like cutting out sugar.  so, when i stick to the nuts, vegetables, meat and fruit diet, i can tell the difference in my training, the way i feel and my body fat.  i think these concepts are undeniable.  i fluctate.  when i'm eating just right, there's a big difference.  but it's hard to do it continually.  one, becuse it's hard and i like desserts and bread.  and two, my wife isn't exactly on board 100% and she does the cooking and also likes to go out to eat so there are definitely setbacks and i feel them.

    i probably eat better than the overwhelming majority of people but it's all relative.  and if this is new to someone, i think you have to ease into it.  but some stuff, like sugar drinks and fast food, you'll leave behind and neve miss them.

    july is usually a bad month for a few reasons.  on august 7, i'm going to clean things up and incorporate a little detox.  i'll let you know how it goes.  

    Only 2 reasons for sugar is right there

     

     
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    Unless running Marathons............ body ain't wanting or needing sugar.  May need some glycogen here and there but people sit around drink sugar drinks all day is

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    i don't think sugar is as bad as you are making it out to be

    get sharpaction in here to explain the difference between consuming sucrose, glucose, fructose (HFCS )


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    get sharpaction in here to explain the difference between consuming sucrose, glucose, fructose (HFCS )


     
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    Having a sweet tooth and being a baker makes eliminating grains quite difficult. 

    you want some perspective, bake youself up some medicinal cookies or brownies
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    you want some perspective, bake youself up some medicinal cookies or brownies
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:

    Having a sweet tooth and being a baker makes eliminating grains quite difficult. 

    you want some perspective, bake youself up some medicinal cookies or brownies

    I think you know my answer there.

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    Having a sweet tooth and being a baker makes eliminating grains quite difficult. 

    you want some perspective, bake youself up some medicinal cookies or brownies

    I think you know my answer there.

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