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Hawaii at Nevada (11/16/2007)

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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 2:24 PM ET #101

No. 13 Hawaii at Nevada, Friday at 8 p.m. (ESPN2)

For me, rarely ever does a game like this take place... a game on which I've been waiting to wager since I began examining the college football schedule in the middle of the summer. Well, here it is and the line is even better than I expected.

The Hawaii Warriors come into this game, not surprisingly, undefeated and with a legitimate Heisman Trophy-caliber quarterback, Colt Brennan, in tow. Hawaii is coming off a physical, non-covering, win last week vs. Fresno St. while Nevada comes in off a bye, giving them an extra week to prepare and more time to watch film of the Warriors' complex passing schemes.

Having moved from Hawaii, where I lived for eight years, directly to the Reno area, let me tell you the first two things the Warrior football players will notice... the altitude and the weather.

Both of those factors will be of great value to a Nevada team accustomed to both, and that faces a Hawaii team in off a long plane ride and with little time to acclimate. Nevada has been a very solid home team recently and the home team in this series has won the last eight meetings. Brennan suffered a concussion in last week's game and he has struggled in his trips to the mainland this year (9 INTs last two road games).

Nevada is a better team since the rise of quarterback Colin Kaepernick and has an offense, the pistol, that can use running back Luke Lippincott (5.5 yards per carry) to keep the potent Warrior offense on the sideline.

The Wolf Pack will win the battle in the running game and home dogs that out-rush their opponents by fewer than 100 yards are excellent bets. Hawaii is still undefeated, but needed last-minute comebacks to force OT in wins at Louisiana Tech and San Jose State.

This is a tougher road trip, and this Wolf Pack team is better than both of those opponents. Here, we have a two TD underdog with a legitimate shot at winning the game outright, making this an excellent wager.

James Manos

Manos hit 56.9 percent of his college selections last season, producing +11.5 units of profit.  www.vegasinsider.com.

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No. 13 Hawaii at Nevada, Friday at 8 p.m. (ESPN2)

For me, rarely ever does a game like this take place... a game on which I've been waiting to wager since I began examining the college football schedule in the middle of the summer. Well, here it is and the line is even better than I expected.

The Hawaii Warriors come into this game, not surprisingly, undefeated and with a legitimate Heisman Trophy-caliber quarterback, Colt Brennan, in tow. Hawaii is coming off a physical, non-covering, win last week vs. Fresno St. while Nevada comes in off a bye, giving them an extra week to prepare and more time to watch film of the Warriors' complex passing schemes.

Having moved from Hawaii, where I lived for eight years, directly to the Reno area, let me tell you the first two things the Warrior football players will notice... the altitude and the weather.

Both of those factors will be of great value to a Nevada team accustomed to both, and that faces a Hawaii team in off a long plane ride and with little time to acclimate. Nevada has been a very solid home team recently and the home team in this series has won the last eight meetings. Brennan suffered a concussion in last week's game and he has struggled in his trips to the mainland this year (9 INTs last two road games).

Nevada is a better team since the rise of quarterback Colin Kaepernick and has an offense, the pistol, that can use running back Luke Lippincott (5.5 yards per carry) to keep the potent Warrior offense on the sideline.

The Wolf Pack will win the battle in the running game and home dogs that out-rush their opponents by fewer than 100 yards are excellent bets. Hawaii is still undefeated, but needed last-minute comebacks to force OT in wins at Louisiana Tech and San Jose State.

This is a tougher road trip, and this Wolf Pack team is better than both of those opponents. Here, we have a two TD underdog with a legitimate shot at winning the game outright, making this an excellent wager.

James Manos

Manos hit 56.9 percent of his college selections last season, producing +11.5 units of profit.  www.vegasinsider.com.

 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 2:30 PM ET #102

Another thing to add is that for those of you who attended the UNLV game and saw the Hawaii fan base.  Look for another showing by the Hawaiians on the mainland.  Not to mention that many ppl from hawaii are flying up to reno not only to watch the game, but to GAMBLE!  haha!
 
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Another thing to add is that for those of you who attended the UNLV game and saw the Hawaii fan base.  Look for another showing by the Hawaiians on the mainland.  Not to mention that many ppl from hawaii are flying up to reno not only to watch the game, but to GAMBLE!  haha!
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 2:36 PM ET #103

sitting this one out...don't like either side and the total is right around what i came out with!!!  better plays tomorrow...good luck to everyone!!!
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sitting this one out...don't like either side and the total is right around what i came out with!!!  better plays tomorrow...good luck to everyone!!!
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 2:36 PM ET #104

I HOPE, WITH DA TEA LEAF IN HAND, THAT UH TREATS DIS GAME AS IF IT IS THE WAC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. NO SLACKING ON DEFENSE LIKE THE SECOND HALF OF THE FRESNO GAME. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY NO TURNOVERS!!!!!!!!!!! I'M HOPING THE LINE DROPS MORE AND I'LL FADE THE PUBLIC.
 
IF LINE STAYS AT 6 OR LOWER
 
HAWAII    GAME 
OVER                     I THINKING OVERTIME
 
AND
 
TEASER
 
HAWAII     EVEN
OVER    71
 
NOT READY TO PULL TRIGGER YET. UNTIL GET NUMBERS HOUSE. GOOD LUCK TO WHATEVERS U DO. 
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I HOPE, WITH DA TEA LEAF IN HAND, THAT UH TREATS DIS GAME AS IF IT IS THE WAC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. NO SLACKING ON DEFENSE LIKE THE SECOND HALF OF THE FRESNO GAME. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY NO TURNOVERS!!!!!!!!!!! I'M HOPING THE LINE DROPS MORE AND I'LL FADE THE PUBLIC.
 
IF LINE STAYS AT 6 OR LOWER
 
HAWAII    GAME 
OVER                     I THINKING OVERTIME
 
AND
 
TEASER
 
HAWAII     EVEN
OVER    71
 
NOT READY TO PULL TRIGGER YET. UNTIL GET NUMBERS HOUSE. GOOD LUCK TO WHATEVERS U DO. 
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 2:52 PM ET #105

Nevada owns an outstanding 17-5 spread record in its last 22 home games.

--Since 2001, Nevada is 10-6 ATS as a home underdog. This is its first home ‘dog spot of the season.

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Nevada owns an outstanding 17-5 spread record in its last 22 home games.

--Since 2001, Nevada is 10-6 ATS as a home underdog. This is its first home ‘dog spot of the season.

 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:01 PM ET #106

Quote Originally Posted by jdawg07:

Nevada owns an outstanding 17-5 spread record in its last 22 home games.

--Since 2001, Nevada is 10-6 ATS as a home underdog. This is its first home ‘dog spot of the season.

I am thinking Home Dog too....Similar game as Last Night one!

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Quote Originally Posted by jdawg07:

Nevada owns an outstanding 17-5 spread record in its last 22 home games.

--Since 2001, Nevada is 10-6 ATS as a home underdog. This is its first home ‘dog spot of the season.

I am thinking Home Dog too....Similar game as Last Night one!

 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:24 PM ET #107

hmmm, what do u guys think about UNDER 79?????
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hmmm, what do u guys think about UNDER 79?????
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:27 PM ET #108

Nevada and the under.
 
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Nevada and the under.
 
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:28 PM ET #109

[Quote: Originally Posted by 808STEELERS]
HEY, WHAT'S UP PEOPLE? JUS' WANNA SAY DAT AFTER NEVADA WEN PUT UP 67 POINTS @ BOISE I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.SO THE FOLLOWING WEEK I WEN POUND EM' ON NEVADA AGAINST UTAH ST HALF AND GAME- I LOST. DEN THE WEEK AFTA' DAT THEY PLAYED IDAHO AND I SAID, OH NEVADA SHOULD SMOKE EM'- LOST ON DAT TOO. AND DEN THEY PLAYED N.MEXICO ST. AND I SAID, BRAH IF HAWAII CAN PUT UP BIG NUMBA'S ON THEM NEVADA CAN TOO. GUESS WHAT/ LOST ON THAT TOO.  ME SO LOLO. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, "SHOULD I PICK NEVADA SO HAWAII CAN WIN OR WHAT?"LOL!!
 
Dude,  I did the same thing on the New Mexico State/Nevada game.  I figured, Hawaii killed New Mexico State.  My friend and I both liked Nevada in that match up.  Lost some digits on that one
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HEY, WHAT'S UP PEOPLE? JUS' WANNA SAY DAT AFTER NEVADA WEN PUT UP 67 POINTS @ BOISE I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.SO THE FOLLOWING WEEK I WEN POUND EM' ON NEVADA AGAINST UTAH ST HALF AND GAME- I LOST. DEN THE WEEK AFTA' DAT THEY PLAYED IDAHO AND I SAID, OH NEVADA SHOULD SMOKE EM'- LOST ON DAT TOO. AND DEN THEY PLAYED N.MEXICO ST. AND I SAID, BRAH IF HAWAII CAN PUT UP BIG NUMBA'S ON THEM NEVADA CAN TOO. GUESS WHAT/ LOST ON THAT TOO.  ME SO LOLO. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, "SHOULD I PICK NEVADA SO HAWAII CAN WIN OR WHAT?"LOL!!
 
Dude,  I did the same thing on the New Mexico State/Nevada game.  I figured, Hawaii killed New Mexico State.  My friend and I both liked Nevada in that match up.  Lost some digits on that one
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:34 PM ET #110

I am leaning on Hawaii -3.5 at the half and under for the game. Still waiting on BigD's thoughts till I pull the trigger.
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I am leaning on Hawaii -3.5 at the half and under for the game. Still waiting on BigD's thoughts till I pull the trigger.
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:44 PM ET #111

I wrote in my column today....."A man would do pretty good to blindly follow this adage…..…..take Hawaii in the Islands, and go against Hawaii on the Mainland."

That's pretty well how I see this. Even moreso w/ Colt getting thrown and dropped on his melon. So I bought 15 pts. for 'vada, but I really hope Hawaii wins, to finish perfect & watch all the dumbA B.C.S. suits have to do all that hand wringing.


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I wrote in my column today....."A man would do pretty good to blindly follow this adage…..…..take Hawaii in the Islands, and go against Hawaii on the Mainland."

That's pretty well how I see this. Even moreso w/ Colt getting thrown and dropped on his melon. So I bought 15 pts. for 'vada, but I really hope Hawaii wins, to finish perfect & watch all the dumbA B.C.S. suits have to do all that hand wringing.


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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:46 PM ET #112

it seems like UNDER is popular. vegas is reading our comments. watch, it's going to go over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UNDER 79 for me, it is. good luck to all!!!!!!!
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it seems like UNDER is popular. vegas is reading our comments. watch, it's going to go over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UNDER 79 for me, it is. good luck to all!!!!!!!
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:54 PM ET #113

Quote Originally Posted by Backyardpaina:

Quote Originally Posted by 808STEELERS:

HEY, WHAT'S UP PEOPLE? JUS' WANNA SAY DAT AFTER NEVADA WEN PUT UP 67 POINTS @ BOISE I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.SO THE FOLLOWING WEEK I WEN POUND EM' ON NEVADA AGAINST UTAH ST HALF AND GAME- I LOST. DEN THE WEEK AFTA' DAT THEY PLAYED IDAHO AND I SAID, OH NEVADA SHOULD SMOKE EM'- LOST ON DAT TOO. AND DEN THEY PLAYED N.MEXICO ST. AND I SAID, BRAH IF HAWAII CAN PUT UP BIG NUMBA'S ON THEM NEVADA CAN TOO. GUESS WHAT/ LOST ON THAT TOO.  ME SO LOLO. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, "SHOULD I PICK NEVADA SO HAWAII CAN WIN OR WHAT?"LOL!!
 
Dude,  I did the same thing on the New Mexico State/Nevada game.  I figured, Hawaii killed New Mexico State.  My friend and I both liked Nevada in that match up.  Lost some digits on that one

 

SAME HERE  THATS WHY I LIKE UH AT DA GAME

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Quote Originally Posted by Backyardpaina:

Quote Originally Posted by 808STEELERS:

HEY, WHAT'S UP PEOPLE? JUS' WANNA SAY DAT AFTER NEVADA WEN PUT UP 67 POINTS @ BOISE I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED.SO THE FOLLOWING WEEK I WEN POUND EM' ON NEVADA AGAINST UTAH ST HALF AND GAME- I LOST. DEN THE WEEK AFTA' DAT THEY PLAYED IDAHO AND I SAID, OH NEVADA SHOULD SMOKE EM'- LOST ON DAT TOO. AND DEN THEY PLAYED N.MEXICO ST. AND I SAID, BRAH IF HAWAII CAN PUT UP BIG NUMBA'S ON THEM NEVADA CAN TOO. GUESS WHAT/ LOST ON THAT TOO.  ME SO LOLO. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, "SHOULD I PICK NEVADA SO HAWAII CAN WIN OR WHAT?"LOL!!
 
Dude,  I did the same thing on the New Mexico State/Nevada game.  I figured, Hawaii killed New Mexico State.  My friend and I both liked Nevada in that match up.  Lost some digits on that one

 

SAME HERE  THATS WHY I LIKE UH AT DA GAME

 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 3:55 PM ET #114

Just read this mornings paper about this game.  I don't know if you all have over looked this, but if Hawaii wins this game tonight, they will CLINCH a share of the WAC CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE.  That is their main concern before thinking about a BCS game.  The boys really want to bring home a WAC CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE.  They are treating this game as their playoff game.  Lose one and they are done kind of deal.
 
So look for Hawaii to come out fast and strong.  The half time play looks really good after reading that article in today's paper.
 
On the quarterback situation, as you all know Brennan is a game time decision.  Tyler Graunke is a really good quarterback and I have all the faith in the world if he starts tonight, Hawaii could win this game.  If Graunke starts that would even be better due to the fact that he can get himself into a rhythm with the offense instead of coming off cold from the bench and trying to run the offense
 
Hawaii at the half for 2 units
 
Good Luck to everyone on this game 
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Just read this mornings paper about this game.  I don't know if you all have over looked this, but if Hawaii wins this game tonight, they will CLINCH a share of the WAC CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE.  That is their main concern before thinking about a BCS game.  The boys really want to bring home a WAC CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE.  They are treating this game as their playoff game.  Lose one and they are done kind of deal.
 
So look for Hawaii to come out fast and strong.  The half time play looks really good after reading that article in today's paper.
 
On the quarterback situation, as you all know Brennan is a game time decision.  Tyler Graunke is a really good quarterback and I have all the faith in the world if he starts tonight, Hawaii could win this game.  If Graunke starts that would even be better due to the fact that he can get himself into a rhythm with the offense instead of coming off cold from the bench and trying to run the offense
 
Hawaii at the half for 2 units
 
Good Luck to everyone on this game 
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 4:06 PM ET #115

Same here. I'm going to bite on Hawaii @ the half for a unit. They have been good so far early .Colt may get hurt later, so I'll stay away from the game line. Still scary after watching that hit he took against Fresno.
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Same here. I'm going to bite on Hawaii @ the half for a unit. They have been good so far early .Colt may get hurt later, so I'll stay away from the game line. Still scary after watching that hit he took against Fresno.
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 4:07 PM ET #116

really like a hawaii here...  both game and half.. half looking like the better play.. As mentioned early Hawaii's looking to clinch a WAC tittle  and should come out fired up..  plus the flight to reno is alot shorter than flight to LTech..  the team shouldn't be tired from the trip and should be ready to play.. Tyler is a capable backup should Colt can't go and either or both should have a good game again a bad nevada pass D that tends to give up big plays.. that said.. unfortunately my local closed the HT lines hence will I will got with Hawaii for the game...  Still undecided on the O/U..  leaning toward the under..  79 just looks alittle too high....
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really like a hawaii here...  both game and half.. half looking like the better play.. As mentioned early Hawaii's looking to clinch a WAC tittle  and should come out fired up..  plus the flight to reno is alot shorter than flight to LTech..  the team shouldn't be tired from the trip and should be ready to play.. Tyler is a capable backup should Colt can't go and either or both should have a good game again a bad nevada pass D that tends to give up big plays.. that said.. unfortunately my local closed the HT lines hence will I will got with Hawaii for the game...  Still undecided on the O/U..  leaning toward the under..  79 just looks alittle too high....
 
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Like Lefty says, staying out of this mess, better games tomorrow that you can better figure out.
 
MAUI, on your Avitar.....seems like her cups runneth over, and I bet her saucer do toooooooo.                 
 
DOC,  where were the vegetarians, in that Donner party? 
 
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Like Lefty says, staying out of this mess, better games tomorrow that you can better figure out.
 
MAUI, on your Avitar.....seems like her cups runneth over, and I bet her saucer do toooooooo.                 
 
DOC,  where were the vegetarians, in that Donner party? 
 
 When one Donner party pioneer said to another: "I passed an old friend yesterday,"
he wasn't just whistling dixie bro.
           
 
 
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Posted: Nov. 16, 2007 - 5:01 PM ET #118

Going with Nevada ML at +200.
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Going with Nevada ML at +200.
 
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Wolf Pack (+7) and the M/L (+200) Tonight~!!!!

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Wolf Pack (+7) and the M/L (+200) Tonight~!!!!

 
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Just got my lines for this one...
 
3.5 front
 
6.5 back
 
Am I missing something on this one
 
I was prepared to take the front at 4.5 - 5 the way they been juicing it to me over here and it took me by surprise when I got those numbers.
 
IMHO this could be a close game so I took for granted maybe this one goes into OT like a couple of the other UH road games. The last one who scores win as usual in College OT.
 
 3.5 in the front sounds real juicy to take and If you are taking Hawaii to win the 6.5 on the final also looks good. Less than a TD in a Hawaii game always looks good to me this season cause we never had a single digit spread this season until now.
 
I'm ready to lay the hammer on this play but still wondering what in the hell am I missing for the house to keep the lines this way.
 
Back up QB for Hawaii not that bad
 
Defense not that bad
 
Hawaii should be fired up in this game to prove their ranking
 
Are the oddsmakers stating that this is the game Hawaii needs to win to finally move from the 16th ranking position
 
Odds makers thinking UH is looking ahead at Boise St
 
 
I'm busy at work but will be back. Just wish I brought my stats with me to look at.
 
 
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Just got my lines for this one...
 
3.5 front
 
6.5 back
 
Am I missing something on this one
 
I was prepared to take the front at 4.5 - 5 the way they been juicing it to me over here and it took me by surprise when I got those numbers.
 
IMHO this could be a close game so I took for granted maybe this one goes into OT like a couple of the other UH road games. The last one who scores win as usual in College OT.
 
 3.5 in the front sounds real juicy to take and If you are taking Hawaii to win the 6.5 on the final also looks good. Less than a TD in a Hawaii game always looks good to me this season cause we never had a single digit spread this season until now.
 
I'm ready to lay the hammer on this play but still wondering what in the hell am I missing for the house to keep the lines this way.
 
Back up QB for Hawaii not that bad
 
Defense not that bad
 
Hawaii should be fired up in this game to prove their ranking
 
Are the oddsmakers stating that this is the game Hawaii needs to win to finally move from the 16th ranking position
 
Odds makers thinking UH is looking ahead at Boise St
 
 
I'm busy at work but will be back. Just wish I brought my stats with me to look at.
 
 
 
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I've looked and looked at this game and can see reasons to bet on both teams, but nothing solid enough for me to make a play. I'll sit on the sideline for this one and root for Big Daddy's UH Warriors to stay undefeated in hopes that they can meet West Virginia in a BCS game that could have an O/U of 140. 
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I've looked and looked at this game and can see reasons to bet on both teams, but nothing solid enough for me to make a play. I'll sit on the sideline for this one and root for Big Daddy's UH Warriors to stay undefeated in hopes that they can meet West Virginia in a BCS game that could have an O/U of 140. 
 
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I like the UNDER on this one both these teams can lite it up but 78 is a lot and COLT got rattled against FRESNO last week he could be a little sketchy tonight JMO

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I like the UNDER on this one both these teams can lite it up but 78 is a lot and COLT got rattled against FRESNO last week he could be a little sketchy tonight JMO

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Damn, my guy went up to -7 HA game and is still stuck on -4 Half. I need to heve someone lay some wood on NV.
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Damn, my guy went up to -7 HA game and is still stuck on -4 Half. I need to heve someone lay some wood on NV.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Fish Naked:

I've looked and looked at this game and can see reasons to bet on both teams, but nothing solid enough for me to make a play. I'll sit on the sideline for this one and root for Big Daddy's UH Warriors to stay undefeated in hopes that they can meet West Virginia in a BCS game that could have an O/U of 140. 

It's so ironic that how I would feel better if the Warriors would be giving up more points  

It's 1:00pm here and this game is at 6:00pm here Hawaii time. Still got some time but I just cannot see why this is such a hard decision for me to give up the 3.5 in the 1st half.

Is there a snow storm in Nevada that I don't know about 

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Quote Originally Posted by Fish Naked:

I've looked and looked at this game and can see reasons to bet on both teams, but nothing solid enough for me to make a play. I'll sit on the sideline for this one and root for Big Daddy's UH Warriors to stay undefeated in hopes that they can meet West Virginia in a BCS game that could have an O/U of 140. 

It's so ironic that how I would feel better if the Warriors would be giving up more points  

It's 1:00pm here and this game is at 6:00pm here Hawaii time. Still got some time but I just cannot see why this is such a hard decision for me to give up the 3.5 in the 1st half.

Is there a snow storm in Nevada that I don't know about 

 
 
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No. 13 Hawaii (9-0) at Nevada (5-4)
What I'm predicting to be a weekend chock full of BCS-bending upsets will begin Friday night in Reno, where battered Warriors QB Colt Brennan is attempting to play on two days' practice. Nevada has averaged 43.2 points in its five WAC contests, and Hawaii has struggled on the road.
Nevada 42, Hawaii 37
 
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No. 13 Hawaii (9-0) at Nevada (5-4)
What I'm predicting to be a weekend chock full of BCS-bending upsets will begin Friday night in Reno, where battered Warriors QB Colt Brennan is attempting to play on two days' practice. Nevada has averaged 43.2 points in its five WAC contests, and Hawaii has struggled on the road.
Nevada 42, Hawaii 37
 
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