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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 6:54 PM ET #176

    Quote Originally Posted by maldini:

    Texas Tech put up more points on Ole Miss than Florida did.

     

    Oh boy! stop the presses! you just changed my mind with those mind blowing stats. I change my pick. Oklahoma it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by maldini:

    Texas Tech put up more points on Ole Miss than Florida did.

     

    Oh boy! stop the presses! you just changed my mind with those mind blowing stats. I change my pick. Oklahoma it is

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 6:59 PM ET #177

                                   
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 6:59 PM ET #178

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    This game will be won in the trenches, which makes my pick an easy one here. The Sooners offensive front is massive, they will beat on that gator defensive front throughout this contest.
    On the flip side you have 2 elite DT's on the Sooner front line,
    McCoy and Granger, throw in sack man DE English and this has the makings of a Big 12 upset over the SEC. The dog will be barking in the BCS Championship tilt.
    OKLAHOMA - 31              FLORIDA - 24
    SOONERS +3             UNDER 71.5
     
    GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE CAPPERS, WISH EVERYONE A HEALTHY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. HOPEFULLY ALL THE HATCHETS HAVE BEEN BURIED AND WE ARE ALL BACK FOR ANOTHER PROFITABLE 2009 SEASON.
         
     

    i had the same conversation at my local poker game last night, im all over oklahoma but ive decided to lay medium sized play, i went big on tulsa last night due to that line movement that i warned everyone about.  JIM HAPPY NEWYEAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    This game will be won in the trenches, which makes my pick an easy one here. The Sooners offensive front is massive, they will beat on that gator defensive front throughout this contest.
    On the flip side you have 2 elite DT's on the Sooner front line,
    McCoy and Granger, throw in sack man DE English and this has the makings of a Big 12 upset over the SEC. The dog will be barking in the BCS Championship tilt.
    OKLAHOMA - 31              FLORIDA - 24
    SOONERS +3             UNDER 71.5
     
    GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE CAPPERS, WISH EVERYONE A HEALTHY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. HOPEFULLY ALL THE HATCHETS HAVE BEEN BURIED AND WE ARE ALL BACK FOR ANOTHER PROFITABLE 2009 SEASON.
         
     

    i had the same conversation at my local poker game last night, im all over oklahoma but ive decided to lay medium sized play, i went big on tulsa last night due to that line movement that i warned everyone about.  JIM HAPPY NEWYEAR

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 7:02 PM ET #179

    Quote Originally Posted by jackal7130:

    Didnt Bradford have hand surgery? Does anyone know anything about the type of surgery and what the normal recovery time is? Also add to that  winning the Heisman, and I'm guessing he hasn't had ample time to prepare for FLAs DEE.JMO Bol to all

     

    Oklahoma's Bradford back at practice after surgery

    Dec 22, 2008

    NORMAN, Okla. (AP) — Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford has returned to practice after undergoing surgery on his left, nonthrowing hand earlier this month.

    The Heisman Trophy winner tore ligaments in his left thumb during a win over Oklahoma State on Nov. 29. He played despite the injury as the Sooners routed Missouri in the Big 12 title game Dec. 6. He had surgery the next day.

    Bradford said his current crimson cast is smaller than the one he wore during the Heisman ceremony, but that he doesn't know yet when the newer cast will be removed.

    Oklahoma offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson says Bradford is taking shotgun snaps in practice but still isn't able to take snaps directly under center.

    Bradford, voted AP Player of the Year on Monday, doesn't anticipate any problems during the BCS championship game on Jan. 8 against Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal7130:

    Didnt Bradford have hand surgery? Does anyone know anything about the type of surgery and what the normal recovery time is? Also add to that  winning the Heisman, and I'm guessing he hasn't had ample time to prepare for FLAs DEE.JMO Bol to all

     

    Oklahoma's Bradford back at practice after surgery

    Dec 22, 2008

    NORMAN, Okla. (AP) — Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford has returned to practice after undergoing surgery on his left, nonthrowing hand earlier this month.

    The Heisman Trophy winner tore ligaments in his left thumb during a win over Oklahoma State on Nov. 29. He played despite the injury as the Sooners routed Missouri in the Big 12 title game Dec. 6. He had surgery the next day.

    Bradford said his current crimson cast is smaller than the one he wore during the Heisman ceremony, but that he doesn't know yet when the newer cast will be removed.

    Oklahoma offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson says Bradford is taking shotgun snaps in practice but still isn't able to take snaps directly under center.

    Bradford, voted AP Player of the Year on Monday, doesn't anticipate any problems during the BCS championship game on Jan. 8 against Florida.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 7:02 PM ET #180

    Easy: Oklahoma +5

    Line has moved a full point today alone, everybody is on Florida, Big 12 sucks, no defense, Sam "Heisman" Bradford will stink it up b/c he just won the Heisman, Florida will put too much pressure on Oklahoma, blah, blah, blah

    Everybody's going one way, goe the other - pretty simple. I trust VERY, VERY few of the "experts" on TV, here, or otherwise. I trust the common sense eyeball test and my pretty good pair says that Oklahoma is a damn good football team who scores @ will on everybody who crosses their path and has only gotten better as the year has gone on. As for Texas being better; well I can't argue that they won the game but that's about it. I watched the game and truly feel they were very fortunate to exit the Red River Shootout with a victory.  OK's defense is very, very formidable - why do you think all the blowouts? It wasn't just offense boys - go back & look @ the 1st qrtr and 1st half scores - unreal.  Am I saying Florida won't win? No. Am I saying that Oklahoma is the best thing since sliced bread? No. But..... I am saying that it is insane to not take a gift of +5 with a team as dominant as OK. Think about this scenario: Can you see Oklahoma scoring 1st? If they do which, following trends from the entire year, is very likely, then you are operating with a 12 point cushion the rest of the night! I can see either Oklahoma jumping on Florida 1st or a dogfight all night long - I don't see the Florida blowout scenario as a possibility.  Book it!

    GLTA

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    Easy: Oklahoma +5

    Line has moved a full point today alone, everybody is on Florida, Big 12 sucks, no defense, Sam "Heisman" Bradford will stink it up b/c he just won the Heisman, Florida will put too much pressure on Oklahoma, blah, blah, blah

    Everybody's going one way, goe the other - pretty simple. I trust VERY, VERY few of the "experts" on TV, here, or otherwise. I trust the common sense eyeball test and my pretty good pair says that Oklahoma is a damn good football team who scores @ will on everybody who crosses their path and has only gotten better as the year has gone on. As for Texas being better; well I can't argue that they won the game but that's about it. I watched the game and truly feel they were very fortunate to exit the Red River Shootout with a victory.  OK's defense is very, very formidable - why do you think all the blowouts? It wasn't just offense boys - go back & look @ the 1st qrtr and 1st half scores - unreal.  Am I saying Florida won't win? No. Am I saying that Oklahoma is the best thing since sliced bread? No. But..... I am saying that it is insane to not take a gift of +5 with a team as dominant as OK. Think about this scenario: Can you see Oklahoma scoring 1st? If they do which, following trends from the entire year, is very likely, then you are operating with a 12 point cushion the rest of the night! I can see either Oklahoma jumping on Florida 1st or a dogfight all night long - I don't see the Florida blowout scenario as a possibility.  Book it!

    GLTA

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 7:03 PM ET #181

    posted: 1/7/2009 6:54:30 PM
    QUOTE Originally Posted by maldini:

    Texas Tech put up more points on Ole Miss than Florida did.

     

    I'm confused Maldini. What is ur point if I might ask?

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    posted: 1/7/2009 6:54:30 PM
    QUOTE Originally Posted by maldini:

    Texas Tech put up more points on Ole Miss than Florida did.

     

    I'm confused Maldini. What is ur point if I might ask?

     
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    Posted: 1/7/2009 7:02:32 PM

    Easy: Oklahoma +5

    Line has moved a full point today alone, everybody is on Florida, Big 12 sucks, no defense, Sam "Heisman" Bradford will stink it up b/c he just won the Heisman, Florida will put too much pressure on Oklahoma, blah, blah, blah

    Everybody's going one way, goe the other - pretty simple. I trust VERY, VERY few of the "experts" on TV, here, or otherwise. I trust the common sense eyeball test and my pretty good pair says that Oklahoma is a damn good football team who scores @ will on everybody who crosses their path and has only gotten better as the year has gone on. As for Texas being better; well I can't argue that they won the game but that's about it. I watched the game and truly feel they were very fortunate to exit the Red River Shootout with a victory.  OK's defense is very, very formidable - why do you think all the blowouts? It wasn't just offense boys - go back & look @ the 1st qrtr and 1st half scores - unreal.  Am I saying Florida won't win? No. Am I saying that Oklahoma is the best thing since sliced bread? No. But..... I am saying that it is insane to not take a gift of +5 with a team as dominant as OK. Think about this scenario: Can you see Oklahoma scoring 1st? If they do which, following trends from the entire year, is very likely, then you are operating with a 12 point cushion the rest of the night! I can see either Oklahoma jumping on Florida 1st or a dogfight all night long - I don't see the Florida blowout scenario as a possibility.  Book it!



    Excellent analogy bro, but you forgot the first rule in betting a 'dog. If your not SURE the 'dog WILL WIN the game dont bet on them! How can you cap a game and pick a team and hope it ONLY LOSES by a certain amount? Its hard enuff capping, to try to predict the score too is almost impossible. JMO from an old salty dog himself.


    Excellent points bro, but you forgot the first rule in betting a 'dog

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    Easy: Oklahoma +5

    Line has moved a full point today alone, everybody is on Florida, Big 12 sucks, no defense, Sam "Heisman" Bradford will stink it up b/c he just won the Heisman, Florida will put too much pressure on Oklahoma, blah, blah, blah

    Everybody's going one way, goe the other - pretty simple. I trust VERY, VERY few of the "experts" on TV, here, or otherwise. I trust the common sense eyeball test and my pretty good pair says that Oklahoma is a damn good football team who scores @ will on everybody who crosses their path and has only gotten better as the year has gone on. As for Texas being better; well I can't argue that they won the game but that's about it. I watched the game and truly feel they were very fortunate to exit the Red River Shootout with a victory.  OK's defense is very, very formidable - why do you think all the blowouts? It wasn't just offense boys - go back & look @ the 1st qrtr and 1st half scores - unreal.  Am I saying Florida won't win? No. Am I saying that Oklahoma is the best thing since sliced bread? No. But..... I am saying that it is insane to not take a gift of +5 with a team as dominant as OK. Think about this scenario: Can you see Oklahoma scoring 1st? If they do which, following trends from the entire year, is very likely, then you are operating with a 12 point cushion the rest of the night! I can see either Oklahoma jumping on Florida 1st or a dogfight all night long - I don't see the Florida blowout scenario as a possibility.  Book it!



    Excellent analogy bro, but you forgot the first rule in betting a 'dog. If your not SURE the 'dog WILL WIN the game dont bet on them! How can you cap a game and pick a team and hope it ONLY LOSES by a certain amount? Its hard enuff capping, to try to predict the score too is almost impossible. JMO from an old salty dog himself.


    Excellent points bro, but you forgot the first rule in betting a 'dog

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 7:23 PM ET #183

    These two teams are a combined 19-5 on the over!!!   Sounds too easy to just take the big.......O/U only one under this year.......Hell, they went over the 70's the last five or six games of the year if I'm correct!?!?    That's unreal.......but that's also the Big 12........and as a group, they haven't played the greatest defense in the bowls.  The SEC always brings the poundings in the bowls.  I think I have to stick to the under.......but that spread keep climbing.  I have been all over Florida, but I'm gonna sleep on it.  I've split the last two nights being on the wrong side, but hitting the totals(both unders).  Seems to be a very strong trend this bowl season.......lots of unders, especially the games that everybody thinks goes over???  Fla and the under is my lean right now. 
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    These two teams are a combined 19-5 on the over!!!   Sounds too easy to just take the big.......O/U only one under this year.......Hell, they went over the 70's the last five or six games of the year if I'm correct!?!?    That's unreal.......but that's also the Big 12........and as a group, they haven't played the greatest defense in the bowls.  The SEC always brings the poundings in the bowls.  I think I have to stick to the under.......but that spread keep climbing.  I have been all over Florida, but I'm gonna sleep on it.  I've split the last two nights being on the wrong side, but hitting the totals(both unders).  Seems to be a very strong trend this bowl season.......lots of unders, especially the games that everybody thinks goes over???  Fla and the under is my lean right now. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2009 - 7:31 PM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by Macallanlover:

    Bigdaddy, I agree 100% of the sadness that will hit on Friday, and I too will disappear until late August after this game.  I was surprised to see you not taking a side on this one as it looks verey compelling from my anlysis.  I thried to save you on last year's Sugar Bowl in the UGA/Hawaii game.  This one will not be that one-sided, Florida will use their starters until the last few minutes.  My New Year's gift to you would be to ask you relook this one.  Bet Florida BIGGGG, and end the year with a comfortable victory.
     
    No SEC team has EVER lost a BCS finale, and this one has mismatch all over it.  At first I thought this would be a 4-7 point game for UF, and that would make that a one play, small bet for me.  Now I think it is a 2-3 TD game and a Ten unit play for me.  My view switched when Oklahoma lost Murray as a RB and a DT, and Bradford had surgery on his hand.  Then came the bowl matchups with the Big 12.  What made OU look competitive was the media halo over the Big 12 as they played each other.  Facing no defenses they looked powerful enough to outscore, or hang with anyone, despite having weak defenses.
     
    In the bowls, Oklahoma State goes down to an Oregon team that lost at home to Boise State, Texas Tech gets drilled by Old Miss, Mizzou has to go to overtime to beat Northwestern,  These were OU's best wins unless you count Cincy who should have lost to Hawaii.  Now their one loss, Texas struggled and was fortunate to win in the last seconds to Ohio State who not only lost to every decent team it played this year, they haven't beaten a quality opponent in three years.  In other words, OU has a lot of sizzle by runningup the score against weak defenses, but there is no proof they can prevail against a solid defense like Florida has.
     
    Now add the problems OU will have stopping  the balance of a UF attack that can beat you with the pass, the run, or through Special Teams.  Harvin is healthy, and Tebow is motivated to prove he should have won the Heisman.  It was Big 12 country where he was left totally off their ballots.  This guy is a warrior, and he doesn't lose focus or hang out late at night.  The last BCS game Florida won was with Leak as the QB, so he wants one of his own.
     
    The reason I am not sure about the over is if UF gets a lead early, they may try to slow the game down to keep the OU offense off the field.  I also feel Meyer thinks he can out physical Oklahoma and wants to wear them down.  Just thinking he would rather drive it methodically and not resort to hurry up offense.  With the new clock rules it is easy to limit the number of possessions  the other team gets.  Turnovers and STs could make the score inflate though.  I feel the over and the under are riskier bets than taking UF.  Whatever you decide, good luck and have a great Spring and Summer.  I am playing with house money and am letting all my winnings ride on this one.  Florida----big.
     
     

     thanks for the tip bro but I am going heavier on these last few college games but there is still the NFL left and I don't want to blow my bankroll on 1 game  I normally play prop bets like crazy during the Super Bowl among sides & totals, so I need to save some for that

    I do like Florida due to Oklahoma choking in Big Bowl games , but I have a feeling that Oklahoma might come out and put up a fight in this one. That's why I'd rather take my chances on the over.

    I might change my mind on Thursday but for now I'm on the total.

    I love the speed of Florida......but sometimes speed kills

    Good Luck

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    Bigdaddy, I agree 100% of the sadness that will hit on Friday, and I too will disappear until late August after this game.  I was surprised to see you not taking a side on this one as it looks verey compelling from my anlysis.  I thried to save you on last year's Sugar Bowl in the UGA/Hawaii game.  This one will not be that one-sided, Florida will use their starters until the last few minutes.  My New Year's gift to you would be to ask you relook this one.  Bet Florida BIGGGG, and end the year with a comfortable victory.
     
    No SEC team has EVER lost a BCS finale, and this one has mismatch all over it.  At first I thought this would be a 4-7 point game for UF, and that would make that a one play, small bet for me.  Now I think it is a 2-3 TD game and a Ten unit play for me.  My view switched when Oklahoma lost Murray as a RB and a DT, and Bradford had surgery on his hand.  Then came the bowl matchups with the Big 12.  What made OU look competitive was the media halo over the Big 12 as they played each other.  Facing no defenses they looked powerful enough to outscore, or hang with anyone, despite having weak defenses.
     
    In the bowls, Oklahoma State goes down to an Oregon team that lost at home to Boise State, Texas Tech gets drilled by Old Miss, Mizzou has to go to overtime to beat Northwestern,  These were OU's best wins unless you count Cincy who should have lost to Hawaii.  Now their one loss, Texas struggled and was fortunate to win in the last seconds to Ohio State who not only lost to every decent team it played this year, they haven't beaten a quality opponent in three years.  In other words, OU has a lot of sizzle by runningup the score against weak defenses, but there is no proof they can prevail against a solid defense like Florida has.
     
    Now add the problems OU will have stopping  the balance of a UF attack that can beat you with the pass, the run, or through Special Teams.  Harvin is healthy, and Tebow is motivated to prove he should have won the Heisman.  It was Big 12 country where he was left totally off their ballots.  This guy is a warrior, and he doesn't lose focus or hang out late at night.  The last BCS game Florida won was with Leak as the QB, so he wants one of his own.
     
    The reason I am not sure about the over is if UF gets a lead early, they may try to slow the game down to keep the OU offense off the field.  I also feel Meyer thinks he can out physical Oklahoma and wants to wear them down.  Just thinking he would rather drive it methodically and not resort to hurry up offense.  With the new clock rules it is easy to limit the number of possessions  the other team gets.  Turnovers and STs could make the score inflate though.  I feel the over and the under are riskier bets than taking UF.  Whatever you decide, good luck and have a great Spring and Summer.  I am playing with house money and am letting all my winnings ride on this one.  Florida----big.
     
     

     thanks for the tip bro but I am going heavier on these last few college games but there is still the NFL left and I don't want to blow my bankroll on 1 game  I normally play prop bets like crazy during the Super Bowl among sides & totals, so I need to save some for that

    I do like Florida due to Oklahoma choking in Big Bowl games , but I have a feeling that Oklahoma might come out and put up a fight in this one. That's why I'd rather take my chances on the over.

    I might change my mind on Thursday but for now I'm on the total.

    I love the speed of Florida......but sometimes speed kills

    Good Luck

     
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    Got in w/ the Gaters -4.
    I really see a SEC Championship here.
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    Guys and Gals - I hear people talk about how good Oklahoma's offense is and how good Florida's defense is... but how do we know this?  Florida hasn't faced a really good offense this year, they have faced some good defenses and put up alot of points against them... Oklahoma faced 1 really good defense (TCU @ home) and scored 35.   So to me those numbers are somewhat skewed for both sides.  I see a tighter game than most I guess 7-13 points.  I'm going with Florida because of Tebow's ability to run, experience, special teams, and the Florida speed.  To me - this is worth the 7 - 13 point difference.  Oklahoma's allowing 31ppg since Reynolds went out, while scoring 60+ points the last 5 games.... and Florida last 9 games was avg score was 49-13.  Good Luck with whatever side you guys take.... this is how I see it, whether you agree or not.  I will go into my state of depression after this game for the next 6 months... but I'll be back in August god willing.  Sharp 
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    Guys and Gals - I hear people talk about how good Oklahoma's offense is and how good Florida's defense is... but how do we know this?  Florida hasn't faced a really good offense this year, they have faced some good defenses and put up alot of points against them... Oklahoma faced 1 really good defense (TCU @ home) and scored 35.   So to me those numbers are somewhat skewed for both sides.  I see a tighter game than most I guess 7-13 points.  I'm going with Florida because of Tebow's ability to run, experience, special teams, and the Florida speed.  To me - this is worth the 7 - 13 point difference.  Oklahoma's allowing 31ppg since Reynolds went out, while scoring 60+ points the last 5 games.... and Florida last 9 games was avg score was 49-13.  Good Luck with whatever side you guys take.... this is how I see it, whether you agree or not.  I will go into my state of depression after this game for the next 6 months... but I'll be back in August god willing.  Sharp 
     
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    im with u on this one sharp. i dont know if u saw last nite thread on tulsa in last few minutes of game. but i was sayin that i at least split as i took the under and bsu. u were right nice job. wish i had listened to u. but luckily i got that under to offset the loss. good luck tomorrow.
     
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    im with u on this one sharp. i dont know if u saw last nite thread on tulsa in last few minutes of game. but i was sayin that i at least split as i took the under and bsu. u were right nice job. wish i had listened to u. but luckily i got that under to offset the loss. good luck tomorrow.
     
     
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    Guy and Ladies - thanks for all the information this year - I appreciate all that goes into your posts and finding the information that we need to help put a dent in the books wallets.  I hope the information I've provided this year was a help to everyone - I have had a good year - although I wish I could change 4 or 5 weekends - I hate when I lose.  Anywho - before I get all teary eyed - everyone be safe in the offseason and I'll see you guys in the fall - I'll spend my time at the Louisiana casinos and Vegas on the blackjack table - and if any of you'll ever go to Louisiana or Vegas to play blackjack or enter a blackjack tournament - let me know - I might be there and get a chance to meet a few of you.   Again - thanks for the year and may all your wagers be sound ones.  Sharp 
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    Guy and Ladies - thanks for all the information this year - I appreciate all that goes into your posts and finding the information that we need to help put a dent in the books wallets.  I hope the information I've provided this year was a help to everyone - I have had a good year - although I wish I could change 4 or 5 weekends - I hate when I lose.  Anywho - before I get all teary eyed - everyone be safe in the offseason and I'll see you guys in the fall - I'll spend my time at the Louisiana casinos and Vegas on the blackjack table - and if any of you'll ever go to Louisiana or Vegas to play blackjack or enter a blackjack tournament - let me know - I might be there and get a chance to meet a few of you.   Again - thanks for the year and may all your wagers be sound ones.  Sharp 
     
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    vvv - a split is alot better than 2 losses any day... I didn't get a chance to read anyones posts last night, I was in Louisiana.  We can't win em all... or else I wouldn't need a job.  Sharp 
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    vvv - a split is alot better than 2 losses any day... I didn't get a chance to read anyones posts last night, I was in Louisiana.  We can't win em all... or else I wouldn't need a job.  Sharp 
     
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    Texas Tech put up more points on Ole Miss than Florida did.

     

    I'm confused Maldini. What is ur point if I might ask?



    Sure, I thought Flying Dutchman was making over-simplified points about how crappy the Big 12 is and that the conference has awful defenses. So I made an equally stupid argument back to him: The Ole Miss and its SEC defense did worse against Tech than it did against Florida. So maybe there's some pretty good offenses in the Big 12...

    Tomorrow night's game is all about matchups. And I'm sick of hearing blanket statements from people that one conference is better than another conference, no questions asked. Obviously if that were the case than Alabama wouldn't have been embarrassed by Utah, Georgia wouldn't have given up 45 points to G Tech, South Carolina wouldn't have been spanked by Iowa, Tennessee wouldn't have lost to Wyoming and Duke wouldn't have beat Vanderbilt.

    If you're going to bet on Florida because they're from the SEC, great. Knock yourself out. But that's the kind of gambling logic that bookies love.
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    Texas Tech put up more points on Ole Miss than Florida did.

     

    I'm confused Maldini. What is ur point if I might ask?



    Sure, I thought Flying Dutchman was making over-simplified points about how crappy the Big 12 is and that the conference has awful defenses. So I made an equally stupid argument back to him: The Ole Miss and its SEC defense did worse against Tech than it did against Florida. So maybe there's some pretty good offenses in the Big 12...

    Tomorrow night's game is all about matchups. And I'm sick of hearing blanket statements from people that one conference is better than another conference, no questions asked. Obviously if that were the case than Alabama wouldn't have been embarrassed by Utah, Georgia wouldn't have given up 45 points to G Tech, South Carolina wouldn't have been spanked by Iowa, Tennessee wouldn't have lost to Wyoming and Duke wouldn't have beat Vanderbilt.

    If you're going to bet on Florida because they're from the SEC, great. Knock yourself out. But that's the kind of gambling logic that bookies love.
     
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    See you in the fall Sharp, always enjoy your posts on this site.  Good luck to us both on Florida tomorrow night.  One comment about the TCU game, I read Patterson's comments about this game in SI.  He said they got caught trying to make defensive substitutions against the hurry up offense early in the game.  They fell behind early because of this.  In the middle of the 2nd Qtr he changed stratagies and left his players in.  Oklahoma only scored 7 points after that. 

    Florida has been doing extra conditioning to keep their starters in longer for this game.  If TCU can shut the OU offense down with their players, you can believe Florida can.  That is another reason why I am strong on UF, and now considering an under play.   Have a great off season.  (BigDaddy--didn't mean you should put all yours on this one, just meant that I was.  Still feel Florida giving points is a more likely outcome than the over/under play.) 

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    Guys and Gals - I hear people talk about how good Oklahoma's offense is and how good Florida's defense is... but how do we know this?  Florida hasn't faced a really good offense this year, they have faced some good defenses and put up alot of points against them... Oklahoma faced 1 really good defense (TCU @ home) and scored 35.   So to me those numbers are somewhat skewed for both sides.  I see a tighter game than most I guess 7-13 points.  I'm going with Florida because of Tebow's ability to run, experience, special teams, and the Florida speed.  To me - this is worth the 7 - 13 point difference.  Oklahoma's allowing 31ppg since Reynolds went out, while scoring 60+ points the last 5 games.... and Florida last 9 games was avg score was 49-13.  Good Luck with whatever side you guys take.... this is how I see it, whether you agree or not.  I will go into my state of depression after this game for the next 6 months... but I'll be back in August god willing.  Sharp 
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    See you in the fall Sharp, always enjoy your posts on this site.  Good luck to us both on Florida tomorrow night.  One comment about the TCU game, I read Patterson's comments about this game in SI.  He said they got caught trying to make defensive substitutions against the hurry up offense early in the game.  They fell behind early because of this.  In the middle of the 2nd Qtr he changed stratagies and left his players in.  Oklahoma only scored 7 points after that. 

    Florida has been doing extra conditioning to keep their starters in longer for this game.  If TCU can shut the OU offense down with their players, you can believe Florida can.  That is another reason why I am strong on UF, and now considering an under play.   Have a great off season.  (BigDaddy--didn't mean you should put all yours on this one, just meant that I was.  Still feel Florida giving points is a more likely outcome than the over/under play.) 

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    Guys and Gals - I hear people talk about how good Oklahoma's offense is and how good Florida's defense is... but how do we know this?  Florida hasn't faced a really good offense this year, they have faced some good defenses and put up alot of points against them... Oklahoma faced 1 really good defense (TCU @ home) and scored 35.   So to me those numbers are somewhat skewed for both sides.  I see a tighter game than most I guess 7-13 points.  I'm going with Florida because of Tebow's ability to run, experience, special teams, and the Florida speed.  To me - this is worth the 7 - 13 point difference.  Oklahoma's allowing 31ppg since Reynolds went out, while scoring 60+ points the last 5 games.... and Florida last 9 games was avg score was 49-13.  Good Luck with whatever side you guys take.... this is how I see it, whether you agree or not.  I will go into my state of depression after this game for the next 6 months... but I'll be back in August god willing.  Sharp 
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    TY Maldini. And I agree with you. Bet the strength of the TEAM. If everyone prescribed to that logic and it was true then Utah would have gotten beat by 100!
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    See you in the fall Sharp, always enjoy your posts on this site.  Good luck to us both on Florida tomorrow night.  One comment about the TCU game, I read Patterson's comments about this game in SI.  He said they got caught trying to make defensive substitutions against the hurry up offense early in the game.  They fell behind early because of this.  In the middle of the 2nd Qtr he changed stratagies and left his players in.  Oklahoma only scored 7 points after that. 

    Florida has been doing extra conditioning to keep their starters in longer for this game.  If TCU can shut the OU offense down with their players, you can believe Florida can.  That is another reason why I am strong on UF, and now considering an under play.   Have a great off season.  (BigDaddy--didn't mean you should put all yours on this one, just meant that I was.  Still feel Florida giving points is a more likely outcome than the over/under play.) 


     I'm not hatin here but that TCU/OK game is misleading. OK led 21-0 after the first QTR! If you look at the box score to that game OK DOMINATED TCU before calling off the dogs. Just some info I found when I looked at the box score.Bol to all

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    See you in the fall Sharp, always enjoy your posts on this site.  Good luck to us both on Florida tomorrow night.  One comment about the TCU game, I read Patterson's comments about this game in SI.  He said they got caught trying to make defensive substitutions against the hurry up offense early in the game.  They fell behind early because of this.  In the middle of the 2nd Qtr he changed stratagies and left his players in.  Oklahoma only scored 7 points after that. 

    Florida has been doing extra conditioning to keep their starters in longer for this game.  If TCU can shut the OU offense down with their players, you can believe Florida can.  That is another reason why I am strong on UF, and now considering an under play.   Have a great off season.  (BigDaddy--didn't mean you should put all yours on this one, just meant that I was.  Still feel Florida giving points is a more likely outcome than the over/under play.) 


     I'm not hatin here but that TCU/OK game is misleading. OK led 21-0 after the first QTR! If you look at the box score to that game OK DOMINATED TCU before calling off the dogs. Just some info I found when I looked at the box score.Bol to all

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    hey sharp. i was in vegas in october at the hilton for a craps tournament.  recently recieved the invitation to come back for a blackjack tourney. i love craps but do play some blackjack also. not sure if im going to the blackjack tourney. but hey maybe ill run into u there. best of luck in all ur gambling.  talk to u guys tomorrow. and i think we all appreciate any insight we get on here, or we probably wouldnt be here day in and day out. so thanks
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    Florida wins convincingly.  There is probably a good chance that Oklahoma will start slow and fall behind early, and the game will be out of control in the first quarter. 
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    Whats suppose to happen is the Heisman is to look bad and the other runner up guy is to perform well.
    Going on this Oaklahoma is the play

    If you go on this.........
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    Whats suppose to happen is the Heisman is to look bad and the other runner up guy is to perform well.
    Going on this Oaklahoma is the play

    If you go on this.........
     
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    i think i saw a stat heisman winners are 1-5 in there last 6 bowl games can anyone confirm that? Just thought it was an interesting fact
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