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    Florida at Oklahoma (01/08/2009)

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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:22 PM ET #326

    slip, sharp money already bet this game...public is now flooding the books with Florida.
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    slip, sharp money already bet this game...public is now flooding the books with Florida.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:27 PM ET #327

    Ohio coaches: Bob Stoops, Youngstown; Urban Meyer, Astabula; Nick Saban, Kent State Grad Asst; Les Miles, Elyria.  Florida -6, Under
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    Ohio coaches: Bob Stoops, Youngstown; Urban Meyer, Astabula; Nick Saban, Kent State Grad Asst; Les Miles, Elyria.  Florida -6, Under
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:35 PM ET #328

    At this rate the line could be 9 by game time!
    Still like the damn gators.
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    At this rate the line could be 9 by game time!
    Still like the damn gators.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:41 PM ET #329

    Very interesting here......quick and rapid line movement over the last two days in the diriection of Fla.  My rule of thumb is to usually follow that, but I think Vegas might be gambling a bit tonight.  Jacking the line up, knowing that more money and more people are on Urban, Tebow and the SEC defense.  Quite fankly, I think the best bet of the bowl season is on the under tonight.  That is were my big play will be.  I will probably also take Fla for a smaller play and hook the two together in a small two team parlay.......but the under is the play for the pay!!  GL to all of you and I wish you the best until we see one another next August on the threads.  To the old friends and the new, I have enjoyed the insights, conversations and friendships.  Take care and have fun with the game tonight!!  
     
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    Very interesting here......quick and rapid line movement over the last two days in the diriection of Fla.  My rule of thumb is to usually follow that, but I think Vegas might be gambling a bit tonight.  Jacking the line up, knowing that more money and more people are on Urban, Tebow and the SEC defense.  Quite fankly, I think the best bet of the bowl season is on the under tonight.  That is were my big play will be.  I will probably also take Fla for a smaller play and hook the two together in a small two team parlay.......but the under is the play for the pay!!  GL to all of you and I wish you the best until we see one another next August on the threads.  To the old friends and the new, I have enjoyed the insights, conversations and friendships.  Take care and have fun with the game tonight!!  
     
    Fla - 34
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:44 PM ET #330

    Fact:  Oaklahoma has the BEST offensive line in NCAA
     
    Fact: Games are won in the trenches
     
    Fact: Sooners are getting points
     
    Give me the SOONERS +6
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    Fact:  Oaklahoma has the BEST offensive line in NCAA
     
    Fact: Games are won in the trenches
     
    Fact: Sooners are getting points
     
    Give me the SOONERS +6
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:48 PM ET #331

    my prediction r 34/34 overtime
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    my prediction r 34/34 overtime
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:48 PM ET #332

    Thank you Oklahoma backers for keeping this line under 10 so I can still take Florida
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    Thank you Oklahoma backers for keeping this line under 10 so I can still take Florida
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:49 PM ET #333

    i did like fla
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:49 PM ET #334

    This may go-down to the team that has the ball last?
    OU + 6
    OVER 70
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    This may go-down to the team that has the ball last?
    OU + 6
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:54 PM ET #335

    I looked at this game for a long time...I have many friends taking FLA and I was on that side most of the time. I think of these teams as being pretty equal when you look at stats, playmakers, etc. One stat in particular really impressed me...and that was YAC (yards after catch). Most everyone is talking about the player makers for Florida and you don't hear much abut OU. But, OU has 2,525 YAC compared to 1,165 YAC for Florida and I think this combined with a good run game OU get's the slight edge IMO.
     
    As usual I'll get bunch of posters claiming their schedule or this or that...blah blah blah. Fact is OU is being over looked because of the poor conference performance in the Bowl games.
     
    OU lost to Texas on a neutral field in Texas. Florida lost at home to OLE MISS who beat TEXAS TECH by 13. TECH lost to OU by 44 points...sure I don't put much weight into this crap but that's a serious beat down. I'm sure you FLA backers can post the same or similiar but I really believe this team is being overlooked.  I'll put my wager in a little later because I might be able to get another full point here.
     
    *** FINAL PLAY ***
     
    OKLAHOMA +6
     
    Good Luck Everyone  this should be a great game!
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    I looked at this game for a long time...I have many friends taking FLA and I was on that side most of the time. I think of these teams as being pretty equal when you look at stats, playmakers, etc. One stat in particular really impressed me...and that was YAC (yards after catch). Most everyone is talking about the player makers for Florida and you don't hear much abut OU. But, OU has 2,525 YAC compared to 1,165 YAC for Florida and I think this combined with a good run game OU get's the slight edge IMO.
     
    As usual I'll get bunch of posters claiming their schedule or this or that...blah blah blah. Fact is OU is being over looked because of the poor conference performance in the Bowl games.
     
    OU lost to Texas on a neutral field in Texas. Florida lost at home to OLE MISS who beat TEXAS TECH by 13. TECH lost to OU by 44 points...sure I don't put much weight into this crap but that's a serious beat down. I'm sure you FLA backers can post the same or similiar but I really believe this team is being overlooked.  I'll put my wager in a little later because I might be able to get another full point here.
     
    *** FINAL PLAY ***
     
    OKLAHOMA +6
     
    Good Luck Everyone  this should be a great game!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:55 PM ET #336

    It's easy to boast the "BEST" offensive line when you don't play against ANY defense!!! ANY!!!
    They will crush that O line tonight!
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    It's easy to boast the "BEST" offensive line when you don't play against ANY defense!!! ANY!!!
    They will crush that O line tonight!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:56 PM ET #337

    During Switzer's glory years the Sooners would kill with great speed on the edge with the triple-option...Opponents knew that and would cheat on the edge so Switzer would open up the game pounding the fullback up the middle for 5-7 yards a pop along with the QB keeper for 3-4 possessions and then wait for the D to respond and play the middle ....Then he would attack the edge and hit the homerun ball...
     
    Listen, Stoops isn't stupid. He knows that Florida knows that they have to pressure Bradford to disrupt the Sooner passing game. And Meyer isn't worried about the Sooner ground game and he really shouldn't be with Murray out..Stoops cannot open up this game playing offense like he has been all year when he knew he would dominate his opponent. If he does Gators will blitz and Bradford won't be as effective. And Gators will have to blitz to get the needed pressure..I was amazed all season that nobody really blitzed Bradford like Texas did...
     
    Therefore, look for Bradford to open up the game reading the blitz early and throwing quick slants over the middle to Gresham or one of the wides and then mixing in jailbreak screens to Brown and Madu out of the backfield....Then look out for wideout Manny Johnson down the middle...Gresham should have a monster night....Florida will get burned and decide to start to play more conventional defense....
     
    If OU can do this and come up with an inspired D effort which they are capable of with the athletes they have then they can keep up with Florida and possibly cover or even win....If they can't or try to throw downfield in the face of the Gator blitz, then Florida wins by 10+ maybe 14....
     
    I do like the Over
     
     
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    During Switzer's glory years the Sooners would kill with great speed on the edge with the triple-option...Opponents knew that and would cheat on the edge so Switzer would open up the game pounding the fullback up the middle for 5-7 yards a pop along with the QB keeper for 3-4 possessions and then wait for the D to respond and play the middle ....Then he would attack the edge and hit the homerun ball...
     
    Listen, Stoops isn't stupid. He knows that Florida knows that they have to pressure Bradford to disrupt the Sooner passing game. And Meyer isn't worried about the Sooner ground game and he really shouldn't be with Murray out..Stoops cannot open up this game playing offense like he has been all year when he knew he would dominate his opponent. If he does Gators will blitz and Bradford won't be as effective. And Gators will have to blitz to get the needed pressure..I was amazed all season that nobody really blitzed Bradford like Texas did...
     
    Therefore, look for Bradford to open up the game reading the blitz early and throwing quick slants over the middle to Gresham or one of the wides and then mixing in jailbreak screens to Brown and Madu out of the backfield....Then look out for wideout Manny Johnson down the middle...Gresham should have a monster night....Florida will get burned and decide to start to play more conventional defense....
     
    If OU can do this and come up with an inspired D effort which they are capable of with the athletes they have then they can keep up with Florida and possibly cover or even win....If they can't or try to throw downfield in the face of the Gator blitz, then Florida wins by 10+ maybe 14....
     
    I do like the Over
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 4:56 PM ET #338

    waiting to see who Corso picks
     
    NOT!!!!
     
     
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    NOT!!!!
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:02 PM ET #339

    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Terps49:

    OKLAHOMA ML

    I was really surprised when I first saw this line...I thought Oklahoma would be the favorite, possibly by as much as a TD...There offense is so sick, I just don't think Florida will be able to keep up with them...Florida's D will need to have the game of their life if they hope to win this one. I know its not all about the offense, and typically D wins games, BUT this is not your typical offense. I also really love that the public favors the Gators as well. 

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    OKLAHOMA ML

    I was really surprised when I first saw this line...I thought Oklahoma would be the favorite, possibly by as much as a TD...There offense is so sick, I just don't think Florida will be able to keep up with them...Florida's D will need to have the game of their life if they hope to win this one. I know its not all about the offense, and typically D wins games, BUT this is not your typical offense. I also really love that the public favors the Gators as well. 

    Smartest quote I've heard so far

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:13 PM ET #340

    Fpronk, You are over thinking again like the Ball St. game. Be carfull. YAC against swiss cheese defenses is exagerated.

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I looked at this game for a long time...I have many friends taking FLA and I was on that side most of the time. I think of these teams as being pretty equal when you look at stats, playmakers, etc. One stat in particular really impressed me...and that was YAC (yards after catch). Most everyone is talking about the player makers for Florida and you don't hear much abut OU. But, OU has 2,525 YAC compared to 1,165 YAC for Florida and I think this combined with a good run game OU get's the slight edge IMO.
     
    As usual I'll get bunch of posters claiming their schedule or this or that...blah blah blah. Fact is OU is being over looked because of the poor conference performance in the Bowl games.
     
    OU lost to Texas on a neutral field in Texas. Florida lost at home to OLE MISS who beat TEXAS TECH by 13. TECH lost to OU by 44 points...sure I don't put much weight into this crap but that's a serious beat down. I'm sure you FLA backers can post the same or similiar but I really believe this team is being overlooked.  I'll put my wager in a little later because I might be able to get another full point here.
     
    *** FINAL PLAY ***
     
    OKLAHOMA +6
     
    Good Luck Everyone  this should be a great game!
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    Fpronk, You are over thinking again like the Ball St. game. Be carfull. YAC against swiss cheese defenses is exagerated.

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

    I looked at this game for a long time...I have many friends taking FLA and I was on that side most of the time. I think of these teams as being pretty equal when you look at stats, playmakers, etc. One stat in particular really impressed me...and that was YAC (yards after catch). Most everyone is talking about the player makers for Florida and you don't hear much abut OU. But, OU has 2,525 YAC compared to 1,165 YAC for Florida and I think this combined with a good run game OU get's the slight edge IMO.
     
    As usual I'll get bunch of posters claiming their schedule or this or that...blah blah blah. Fact is OU is being over looked because of the poor conference performance in the Bowl games.
     
    OU lost to Texas on a neutral field in Texas. Florida lost at home to OLE MISS who beat TEXAS TECH by 13. TECH lost to OU by 44 points...sure I don't put much weight into this crap but that's a serious beat down. I'm sure you FLA backers can post the same or similiar but I really believe this team is being overlooked.  I'll put my wager in a little later because I might be able to get another full point here.
     
    *** FINAL PLAY ***
     
    OKLAHOMA +6
     
    Good Luck Everyone  this should be a great game!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:22 PM ET #341

    good luck all. but im rollin with florida. this line should easily be 7 gators win by at least 7. tebow is fired up OK has been talkin some smack. and urban meyer is an unbelievable coach and even a better big game coach. the gators wil think they r the dogs by the time urban gets done with them. and they wil take care of business.
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    good luck all. but im rollin with florida. this line should easily be 7 gators win by at least 7. tebow is fired up OK has been talkin some smack. and urban meyer is an unbelievable coach and even a better big game coach. the gators wil think they r the dogs by the time urban gets done with them. and they wil take care of business.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:22 PM ET #342

    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

     Funny thing is I actually won money betting on OSU this year and they did beat Michigan again..I hear its no longer a rivalry game. In a rivalry game both teams are suppose come and play. Did you enjoy the TOILET BOWL that BIG BROWN pile of horse shit Michgian played in...

    hahahhahahahahaha... this might be the best thing said yet today...

    BIG 10 football...joke compared to the other conferences...

    tonights game looks like an NFL matchup:
    PATS vs MIAMI...you tell me the winner of that matchup

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fpronk:

     Funny thing is I actually won money betting on OSU this year and they did beat Michigan again..I hear its no longer a rivalry game. In a rivalry game both teams are suppose come and play. Did you enjoy the TOILET BOWL that BIG BROWN pile of horse shit Michgian played in...

    hahahhahahahahaha... this might be the best thing said yet today...

    BIG 10 football...joke compared to the other conferences...

    tonights game looks like an NFL matchup:
    PATS vs MIAMI...you tell me the winner of that matchup

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:23 PM ET #343

    sorry for typos. in a hurry

     

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    sorry for typos. in a hurry

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:27 PM ET #344

    The line jumped from -4 to -6 now.  But the ML stayed put right around -200. Why?  Im scared the books don’t want to increase the FL ML because that would give more incentive for people to bet OU SU---the sharps bet.  This tells me the books have received more $ on OU and now, after the 2 pt bump in the spread, they will keep the ML the same to entice more $ on FL…to even the ledger.

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    The line jumped from -4 to -6 now.  But the ML stayed put right around -200. Why?  Im scared the books don’t want to increase the FL ML because that would give more incentive for people to bet OU SU---the sharps bet.  This tells me the books have received more $ on OU and now, after the 2 pt bump in the spread, they will keep the ML the same to entice more $ on FL…to even the ledger.

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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:28 PM ET #345

    Quote Originally Posted by jgenti:

    im off florida for now. i will wait to see how high i can get oklahoma at and MAYBE shoot 4 a middle. i think oklahoma will be able to move the ball and move it effectively.  there o line will give sam b time to throw. there last 4 or 5 games where they put up 60 plus points is what really has me on the fence. will wait to see how much bang i can get on oklahoma. be back later

     

    Florida will win this game by atleast a TD bro. . .

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    im off florida for now. i will wait to see how high i can get oklahoma at and MAYBE shoot 4 a middle. i think oklahoma will be able to move the ball and move it effectively.  there o line will give sam b time to throw. there last 4 or 5 games where they put up 60 plus points is what really has me on the fence. will wait to see how much bang i can get on oklahoma. be back later

     

    Florida will win this game by atleast a TD bro. . .

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:30 PM ET #346

    Sharps on OU???
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:31 PM ET #347

    no one seems to realize that the big 12 has such good offense because the teams are stacked with huge offensive lines. if florida cant get to bradford and cant stop brown oklahoma will score. the real question will be how surgery on his left hand will affect bradford, i think this is more incentive for the offensive line to play even better.  the coaches dont play on the field. i expect a close game with florida passing and oklahoma running. the over under is the tougher pick but scoring in the 30's for these two teams is slowing them down. let the line go up and the total go down. oklahoma and the over, both being close.
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    no one seems to realize that the big 12 has such good offense because the teams are stacked with huge offensive lines. if florida cant get to bradford and cant stop brown oklahoma will score. the real question will be how surgery on his left hand will affect bradford, i think this is more incentive for the offensive line to play even better.  the coaches dont play on the field. i expect a close game with florida passing and oklahoma running. the over under is the tougher pick but scoring in the 30's for these two teams is slowing them down. let the line go up and the total go down. oklahoma and the over, both being close.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:31 PM ET #348

    Out of all the bowl games, only 3 games went over 70pts and out of the 6 teams that played in those 3 games, Notre Dame had the best defense, which is the 43rd ranked Defense in the nation.

    Tonight you have the 4th ranked Defense in Florida and there is NO WAY this game is going over 70pts.

    and yes, I know these teams are some of the highest scoring offenses in the nation, but 10 Touch Downs is a lot to ask for with the 4th ranked defense being involved.

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    Out of all the bowl games, only 3 games went over 70pts and out of the 6 teams that played in those 3 games, Notre Dame had the best defense, which is the 43rd ranked Defense in the nation.

    Tonight you have the 4th ranked Defense in Florida and there is NO WAY this game is going over 70pts.

    and yes, I know these teams are some of the highest scoring offenses in the nation, but 10 Touch Downs is a lot to ask for with the 4th ranked defense being involved.

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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:35 PM ET #349

    Quote Originally Posted by ThtsGoodKnwldge:

    The line jumped from -4 to -6 now.  But the ML stayed put right around -200. Why?  Im scared the books don’t want to increase the FL ML because that would give more incentive for people to bet OU SU---the sharps bet.  This tells me the books have received more $ on OU and now, after the 2 pt bump in the spread, they will keep the ML the same to entice more $ on FL…to even the ledger.

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    Sharps on OU???

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    The line jumped from -4 to -6 now.  But the ML stayed put right around -200. Why?  Im scared the books don’t want to increase the FL ML because that would give more incentive for people to bet OU SU---the sharps bet.  This tells me the books have received more $ on OU and now, after the 2 pt bump in the spread, they will keep the ML the same to entice more $ on FL…to even the ledger.

    How do you interpret this movement???

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    Sharps on OU???

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:39 PM ET #350

    I LIKED FLORDIA FROM THE GET,BUT A 3 POINT MOVE ON A CHAMPIONSHIP BOWL GAME,WOW THATS ALLOT OF CAKE,SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE SICK AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE RICH???

     I DONT SEE ALLOT OF FAVORITES WINNING THIS YEAR OR LAST IN BOWL GAMES, YOU GOT

    TO GROW A PAIR TO BET AGAINST FLORDIA

    BUT 6-7 IS JUST TO MANY POINTS TO GIVE FOR ME, THINK I WILL TAKE THE STORES SIDE IN THIS ONE,GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

     

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    I LIKED FLORDIA FROM THE GET,BUT A 3 POINT MOVE ON A CHAMPIONSHIP BOWL GAME,WOW THATS ALLOT OF CAKE,SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE SICK AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE RICH???

     I DONT SEE ALLOT OF FAVORITES WINNING THIS YEAR OR LAST IN BOWL GAMES, YOU GOT

    TO GROW A PAIR TO BET AGAINST FLORDIA

    BUT 6-7 IS JUST TO MANY POINTS TO GIVE FOR ME, THINK I WILL TAKE THE STORES SIDE IN THIS ONE,GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

     

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