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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:40 PM ET #351

    I LIKED FLORDIA FROM THE GET,BUT A 3 POINT MOVE ON A CHAMPIONSHIP BOWL GAME,WOW THATS ALLOT OF CAKE,SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE SICK AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE RICH???

     I DONT SEE ALLOT OF FAVORITES WINNING THIS YEAR OR LAST IN BOWL GAMES, YOU GOT

    TO GROW A PAIR TO BET AGAINST FLORDIA

    BUT 6-7 IS JUST TO MANY POINTS TO GIVE FOR ME, THINK I WILL TAKE THE STORES SIDE IN THIS ONE,GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

     

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    I LIKED FLORDIA FROM THE GET,BUT A 3 POINT MOVE ON A CHAMPIONSHIP BOWL GAME,WOW THATS ALLOT OF CAKE,SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE SICK AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE RICH???

     I DONT SEE ALLOT OF FAVORITES WINNING THIS YEAR OR LAST IN BOWL GAMES, YOU GOT

    TO GROW A PAIR TO BET AGAINST FLORDIA

    BUT 6-7 IS JUST TO MANY POINTS TO GIVE FOR ME, THINK I WILL TAKE THE STORES SIDE IN THIS ONE,GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:48 PM ET #352

    . pennacle saying okla plus 14.5???????????????
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    . pennacle saying okla plus 14.5???????????????
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:49 PM ET #353

    14.5??????????????????
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:50 PM ET #354

    Quote Originally Posted by ThtsGoodKnwldge:

    The line jumped from -4 to -6 now.  But the ML stayed put right around -200. Why?  Im scared the books don’t want to increase the FL ML because that would give more incentive for people to bet OU SU---the sharps bet.  This tells me the books have received more $ on OU and now, after the 2 pt bump in the spread, they will keep the ML the same to entice more $ on FL…to even the ledger.

    How do you interpret this movement???

    The same way you do...there is good value in OK ML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThtsGoodKnwldge:

    The line jumped from -4 to -6 now.  But the ML stayed put right around -200. Why?  Im scared the books don’t want to increase the FL ML because that would give more incentive for people to bet OU SU---the sharps bet.  This tells me the books have received more $ on OU and now, after the 2 pt bump in the spread, they will keep the ML the same to entice more $ on FL…to even the ledger.

    How do you interpret this movement???

    The same way you do...there is good value in OK ML.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:50 PM ET #355

    that has to be an error for sure. but the others dont reflect that line????
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    that has to be an error for sure. but the others dont reflect that line????
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:52 PM ET #356

    I knew you would say that Fpronk.   Betting Okl. win and points is good value play like you meantioned Pats/ Giants.
    You are right anything can happen.
    I am really considering Heisman facts, and SEC facts.
    That counts for something right?
    I saw Florida beat Bama good, we both took money line Bama and under.  We split but watching that game we both saw what Florida did to Bama and Coffee.
    Okl. has run up points lately yes but not up against Florida.
    Do you think Okl. will win or are you taking the points for what they are worth.?.?.?
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    I knew you would say that Fpronk.   Betting Okl. win and points is good value play like you meantioned Pats/ Giants.
    You are right anything can happen.
    I am really considering Heisman facts, and SEC facts.
    That counts for something right?
    I saw Florida beat Bama good, we both took money line Bama and under.  We split but watching that game we both saw what Florida did to Bama and Coffee.
    Okl. has run up points lately yes but not up against Florida.
    Do you think Okl. will win or are you taking the points for what they are worth.?.?.?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:55 PM ET #357

    My two Cents

    Oklahoma has played teams w/ weaker defenses.

    Oklahoma is 0-5 bowl games

    Big 12 kinda crappy this year

    Florida =
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    My two Cents

    Oklahoma has played teams w/ weaker defenses.

    Oklahoma is 0-5 bowl games

    Big 12 kinda crappy this year

    Florida =
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:55 PM ET #358

    Pinnacle 14.5???
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:55 PM ET #359

    Pinnacle 14.5???
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:55 PM ET #360

    Pinnacle 14.5???
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:57 PM ET #361

    the juice is -300 something at pinnacle people
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:58 PM ET #362

    Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

    I knew you would say that Fpronk.   Betting Okl. win and points is good value play like you meantioned Pats/ Giants.
    You are right anything can happen.
    I am really considering Heisman facts, and SEC facts.
    That counts for something right?
    I saw Florida beat Bama good, we both took money line Bama and under.  We split but watching that game we both saw what Florida did to Bama and Coffee.
    Okl. has run up points lately yes but not up against Florida.
    Do you think Okl. will win or are you taking the points for what they are worth.?.?.?

    Here is what else I saw...

    OU lose to Texas on a neutral field in Texas. Florida lost at home to OLE MISS who beat TEXAS TECH by 13. I also saw TEXAS TECH lost to OU by 44 points...sure I don't put much weight into this crap but that's a serious beat down. So who is better? We will all see tonight.

    Nick Nolte - GO F YOURSELF! No one here cares about touts or that person...please don't tout yourself. So, that must make you the person....

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiators:

    I knew you would say that Fpronk.   Betting Okl. win and points is good value play like you meantioned Pats/ Giants.
    You are right anything can happen.
    I am really considering Heisman facts, and SEC facts.
    That counts for something right?
    I saw Florida beat Bama good, we both took money line Bama and under.  We split but watching that game we both saw what Florida did to Bama and Coffee.
    Okl. has run up points lately yes but not up against Florida.
    Do you think Okl. will win or are you taking the points for what they are worth.?.?.?

    Here is what else I saw...

    OU lose to Texas on a neutral field in Texas. Florida lost at home to OLE MISS who beat TEXAS TECH by 13. I also saw TEXAS TECH lost to OU by 44 points...sure I don't put much weight into this crap but that's a serious beat down. So who is better? We will all see tonight.

    Nick Nolte - GO F YOURSELF! No one here cares about touts or that person...please don't tout yourself. So, that must make you the person....

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 5:58 PM ET #363

    oh my god....14.5? folks it's time to put the house on oklahoma here ...this is the highest scoring team in the HISTORY of college football need i remind you ...i had been waiting for the line to keep moving in oklahoma's direction but wow....8.5 points the day of the game .....too much value to ignore with oklahoma ml ...but the sure bet is obviously oklahoma+14.5 ....i must be dreaming 
     
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    oh my god....14.5? folks it's time to put the house on oklahoma here ...this is the highest scoring team in the HISTORY of college football need i remind you ...i had been waiting for the line to keep moving in oklahoma's direction but wow....8.5 points the day of the game .....too much value to ignore with oklahoma ml ...but the sure bet is obviously oklahoma+14.5 ....i must be dreaming 
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:02 PM ET #364

    I love my Sooners.....But on paper Florida has most every advantage if not all of them....If you had a computer simulation I would have to think that it would pick Florida to win 90% of the time....
     
    That's what's really scary about picking this game....And I keep remember Pats/Giants....Even Utes/Tide.....Who would have ever thought that Utes would win the game let alone dominate Alabama?
     
    The really smart money is probably no-playing this game.....
    But they did indeed dominate......
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    I love my Sooners.....But on paper Florida has most every advantage if not all of them....If you had a computer simulation I would have to think that it would pick Florida to win 90% of the time....
     
    That's what's really scary about picking this game....And I keep remember Pats/Giants....Even Utes/Tide.....Who would have ever thought that Utes would win the game let alone dominate Alabama?
     
    The really smart money is probably no-playing this game.....
    But they did indeed dominate......
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:02 PM ET #365

    you are dreaming... are you people seriuos asking this question???? the line is 5.5 or 6 at most. the 14.5 is -300 something juice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wake up!!!!!
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    you are dreaming... are you people seriuos asking this question???? the line is 5.5 or 6 at most. the 14.5 is -300 something juice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wake up!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:03 PM ET #366

    Juice at -305 folks, just looked it up. 
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    Juice at -305 folks, just looked it up. 
     
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    But as I meantioned earlier Florida dropped the ball themselves for that loss.  if not than they would be undefeated.
    It sure is nice having that underdog at the start of the game and all of a sudden they are up you feel pretty good.  But I can see Florida running to the endzone here often, but yess I do see Oak. doing the same thing.
    You didnt meantion o/u   whatta you think???
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    But as I meantioned earlier Florida dropped the ball themselves for that loss.  if not than they would be undefeated.
    It sure is nice having that underdog at the start of the game and all of a sudden they are up you feel pretty good.  But I can see Florida running to the endzone here often, but yess I do see Oak. doing the same thing.
    You didnt meantion o/u   whatta you think???
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:08 PM ET #368

    Quote Originally Posted by bert_johnson:

    My two Cents

    Oklahoma has played teams w/ weaker defenses.

    Oklahoma is 0-5 bowl games

    Big 12 kinda crappy this year

    Florida =

    Please try and post accurate infomation.

    Since Stoops has been at OKLAHOMA their bow record is 4-5. They are 1-4 in their last 5. Remember everyone was down on Ohio State for not being able to cover a bowl game let alone win one. Well, they covered and IMO so will OU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bert_johnson:

    My two Cents

    Oklahoma has played teams w/ weaker defenses.

    Oklahoma is 0-5 bowl games

    Big 12 kinda crappy this year

    Florida =

    Please try and post accurate infomation.

    Since Stoops has been at OKLAHOMA their bow record is 4-5. They are 1-4 in their last 5. Remember everyone was down on Ohio State for not being able to cover a bowl game let alone win one. Well, they covered and IMO so will OU.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:11 PM ET #369

    For you trend lovers:
    Certain bowl faves of 1.5-8.5 points are a PERFECT 0-19 ATS since 2004 when playing on less than 43 days rest - Rutgers, East Carolina and Clemson failed to cover under this angle. Meanwhile, certain bowl dogs of more than 2 points are a PERFECT 13-0 ATS since 1992 when coming off a SU conference championship win - Va. Tech covered under this angle.
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    For you trend lovers:
    Certain bowl faves of 1.5-8.5 points are a PERFECT 0-19 ATS since 2004 when playing on less than 43 days rest - Rutgers, East Carolina and Clemson failed to cover under this angle. Meanwhile, certain bowl dogs of more than 2 points are a PERFECT 13-0 ATS since 1992 when coming off a SU conference championship win - Va. Tech covered under this angle.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:

    I love my Sooners.....But on paper Florida has most every advantage if not all of them....If you had a computer simulation I would have to think that it would pick Florida to win 90% of the time....
     
    That's what's really scary about picking this game....And I keep remember Pats/Giants....Even Utes/Tide.....Who would have ever thought that Utes would win the game let alone dominate Alabama?
     
    The really smart money is probably no-playing this game.....
    But they did indeed dominate......

    Here are the computer simulations you wanted....

    https://accuscore.com/option,com_acc_ncaaf_game_preview/tab,stats/Itemid,212/game_id,717/

    Through 10,00 simulations Florida wins 56% of the time...

    Average score is Gators 39.1 Sooners 36.4.

    This really means nothing..these simulations are off more than they are on. Here is a list of all bowl games...

    https://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/pickcenter?gameId=290080201

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    Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:

    I love my Sooners.....But on paper Florida has most every advantage if not all of them....If you had a computer simulation I would have to think that it would pick Florida to win 90% of the time....
     
    That's what's really scary about picking this game....And I keep remember Pats/Giants....Even Utes/Tide.....Who would have ever thought that Utes would win the game let alone dominate Alabama?
     
    The really smart money is probably no-playing this game.....
    But they did indeed dominate......

    Here are the computer simulations you wanted....

    https://accuscore.com/option,com_acc_ncaaf_game_preview/tab,stats/Itemid,212/game_id,717/

    Through 10,00 simulations Florida wins 56% of the time...

    Average score is Gators 39.1 Sooners 36.4.

    This really means nothing..these simulations are off more than they are on. Here is a list of all bowl games...

    https://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/pickcenter?gameId=290080201

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:13 PM ET #371

    Big 12 = Choke Artist
    Okla   = Gator Bait
     
    All over the Tebow Cooper Connection.. Riley Coopers last College Football game as he will be preparing for the MLB. Expect even better numbers than the SEC championship game from him.
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    All over the Tebow Cooper Connection.. Riley Coopers last College Football game as he will be preparing for the MLB. Expect even better numbers than the SEC championship game from him.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:15 PM ET #372

    Accuscore also had Notre Dame losing
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2009 - 6:18 PM ET #373

    I think it is funny how so many peope need to bet on this game and bet it big just because it is the championship game. to me that is not a good reason. I have done pretty well with the past few bowl games and personally see no reason what so ever to throw my money away on this game where clearly I havent the slightest clue what could happen. Originally i thought florida and the over but now im not sure. Why throw a few 100 away on a guess and i have a feeling so much money on florida they are going to get burned. I'll hold onto my winnings and wait for a better game than this one.
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    I think it is funny how so many peope need to bet on this game and bet it big just because it is the championship game. to me that is not a good reason. I have done pretty well with the past few bowl games and personally see no reason what so ever to throw my money away on this game where clearly I havent the slightest clue what could happen. Originally i thought florida and the over but now im not sure. Why throw a few 100 away on a guess and i have a feeling so much money on florida they are going to get burned. I'll hold onto my winnings and wait for a better game than this one.
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by NFLGURUX]
    For you trend lovers:
    Certain bowl faves of 1.5-8.5 points are a PERFECT 0-19 ATS since 2004 when playing on less than 43 days rest - Rutgers, East Carolina and Clemson failed to cover under this angle. Meanwhile, certain bowl dogs of more than 2 points are a PERFECT 13-0 ATS since 1992 when coming off a SU conference championship win - Va. Tech covered under this angle.
    [/Quotewow if thats right those are pretty strong stats.
    Oklahoma has done well in Florida and at Dolphin stadium.
    Called it home away from home in Norman
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by NFLGURUX]
    For you trend lovers:
    Certain bowl faves of 1.5-8.5 points are a PERFECT 0-19 ATS since 2004 when playing on less than 43 days rest - Rutgers, East Carolina and Clemson failed to cover under this angle. Meanwhile, certain bowl dogs of more than 2 points are a PERFECT 13-0 ATS since 1992 when coming off a SU conference championship win - Va. Tech covered under this angle.
    [/Quotewow if thats right those are pretty strong stats.
    Oklahoma has done well in Florida and at Dolphin stadium.
    Called it home away from home in Norman
     
     
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    The Syndicate took Oklahoma HUGE
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