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    Want to have a civil discussion here bout SEC vs. Everybody else...

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    GoGoplata123
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2014 - 11:31 PM ET #1

    In all honesty I have No bias towards any conference in college football nor do I follow any team seriously. I live in Las Vegas and cheer for yet Rebels lol.
    *Again Trying to be civil here... interested in both sides of spectrum. Not trying to push one side or the other, just my opinion. Im open to new ideas or a different outlook.

    Question: Do SEC teams subconsciously let down in these bowl games, because they play so many "Huge" "Emotional" "Primetime" games during the Year? Therefore making these bowl games an afterthought to a rugged season? Do you think Mississippi St put as much effort, time, or energy into their preparation and play into the match up with Georgia Tech as they did with Auburn, Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss??

    Has Georgia Tech played a game of this most personal importance? ACC Title game maybe?

    Nobody would refute the SEC has the overall best players... I mean, ask the NFL, year in year out SEC has highest # of players drafted. Therefore, Is the NFL biased?

    Happy NYE!


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    In all honesty I have No bias towards any conference in college football nor do I follow any team seriously. I live in Las Vegas and cheer for yet Rebels lol.
    *Again Trying to be civil here... interested in both sides of spectrum. Not trying to push one side or the other, just my opinion. Im open to new ideas or a different outlook.

    Question: Do SEC teams subconsciously let down in these bowl games, because they play so many "Huge" "Emotional" "Primetime" games during the Year? Therefore making these bowl games an afterthought to a rugged season? Do you think Mississippi St put as much effort, time, or energy into their preparation and play into the match up with Georgia Tech as they did with Auburn, Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss??

    Has Georgia Tech played a game of this most personal importance? ACC Title game maybe?

    Nobody would refute the SEC has the overall best players... I mean, ask the NFL, year in year out SEC has highest # of players drafted. Therefore, Is the NFL biased?

    Happy NYE!


     
    WahooS
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2014 - 11:49 PM ET #2

    Good luck having a civilized discussion with the retards in this forum, that was possible around 5 years ago, no chance now

    this will be an argumentative disaster if enough people respond

    TCU should answer any questions you may have regarding the SEC & it's dominance in 2014

    We aren't in 2011 anymore, times have changed & the gap is officially closed

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    Good luck having a civilized discussion with the retards in this forum, that was possible around 5 years ago, no chance now

    this will be an argumentative disaster if enough people respond

    TCU should answer any questions you may have regarding the SEC & it's dominance in 2014

    We aren't in 2011 anymore, times have changed & the gap is officially closed

     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2014 - 11:55 PM ET #3

    I think they have several huge games every week in conference play. its hard to prepare for the triple option if your not used to seeing it much. for years the sec has been dominate & I just wonder if they are trying to get it evened out, so people will continue to watch. im not saying all games are " fixed" but I do think some are, I have been betting on games for over 23 years & seen some strange stuff. when they set these lines they know which teams will draw the money. motivation is a big part of it, ole miss & miss st I feel like when they lost the games when they was undefeated may have took wind out of their sails. im shocked at how the sec has done in some of these games but hard to get up every week
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    I think they have several huge games every week in conference play. its hard to prepare for the triple option if your not used to seeing it much. for years the sec has been dominate & I just wonder if they are trying to get it evened out, so people will continue to watch. im not saying all games are " fixed" but I do think some are, I have been betting on games for over 23 years & seen some strange stuff. when they set these lines they know which teams will draw the money. motivation is a big part of it, ole miss & miss st I feel like when they lost the games when they was undefeated may have took wind out of their sails. im shocked at how the sec has done in some of these games but hard to get up every week
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2015 - 12:05 AM ET #4

    Ole Piss should have been pumped to play TCU if you ask me and got slaughtered.  I can't think LSU was thrilled about the Music City Bowl all things considered.  Miss. State....not so sure.

    TCU is flat very good.  I think Georgia Tech is pretty good (see Oregon line going down).  I don't think LSU is very good.

    I think we have to wait and see how tomorrow goes, but I don't see sheer dominance from top to bottom this year at all.  
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    Ole Piss should have been pumped to play TCU if you ask me and got slaughtered.  I can't think LSU was thrilled about the Music City Bowl all things considered.  Miss. State....not so sure.

    TCU is flat very good.  I think Georgia Tech is pretty good (see Oregon line going down).  I don't think LSU is very good.

    I think we have to wait and see how tomorrow goes, but I don't see sheer dominance from top to bottom this year at all.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2015 - 12:07 AM ET #5

    Arky did pummel TX and Georgia blasted Louisville.  SC won as an outright dog.  

    So it's not like they haven't won some games.  
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    Arky did pummel TX and Georgia blasted Louisville.  SC won as an outright dog.  

    So it's not like they haven't won some games.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2015 - 12:17 AM ET #6

    aggies won!
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    aggies won!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2015 - 1:40 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoplata123:

    In all honesty I have No bias towards any conference in college football nor do I follow any team seriously. I live in Las Vegas and cheer for yet Rebels lol.
    *Again Trying to be civil here... interested in both sides of spectrum. Not trying to push one side or the other, just my opinion. Im open to new ideas or a different outlook.

    Question: Do SEC teams subconsciously let down in these bowl games, because they play so many "Huge" "Emotional" "Primetime" games during the Year? Therefore making these bowl games an afterthought to a rugged season? Do you think Mississippi St put as much effort, time, or energy into their preparation and play into the match up with Georgia Tech as they did with Auburn, Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss??

    Has Georgia Tech played a game of this most personal importance? ACC Title game maybe?

    Nobody would refute the SEC has the overall best players... I mean, ask the NFL, year in year out SEC has highest # of players drafted. Therefore, Is the NFL biased?

    Happy NYE!



    These are some good points. And I think on top of all this every once in a while you have really good teams out of other conferences. TCU is legit and have a great coach. They score a ton of points so nobody ever talks about their defense. But over the years they've always had good D. As for GTech they were pretty good all year and this was their Super Bowl. They brought it and miss st couldn't hang. So what we are seeing is just bad matchups for the sec. Teams that are having amazing years playing sec teams that are average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoplata123:

    In all honesty I have No bias towards any conference in college football nor do I follow any team seriously. I live in Las Vegas and cheer for yet Rebels lol.
    *Again Trying to be civil here... interested in both sides of spectrum. Not trying to push one side or the other, just my opinion. Im open to new ideas or a different outlook.

    Question: Do SEC teams subconsciously let down in these bowl games, because they play so many "Huge" "Emotional" "Primetime" games during the Year? Therefore making these bowl games an afterthought to a rugged season? Do you think Mississippi St put as much effort, time, or energy into their preparation and play into the match up with Georgia Tech as they did with Auburn, Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss??

    Has Georgia Tech played a game of this most personal importance? ACC Title game maybe?

    Nobody would refute the SEC has the overall best players... I mean, ask the NFL, year in year out SEC has highest # of players drafted. Therefore, Is the NFL biased?

    Happy NYE!



    These are some good points. And I think on top of all this every once in a while you have really good teams out of other conferences. TCU is legit and have a great coach. They score a ton of points so nobody ever talks about their defense. But over the years they've always had good D. As for GTech they were pretty good all year and this was their Super Bowl. They brought it and miss st couldn't hang. So what we are seeing is just bad matchups for the sec. Teams that are having amazing years playing sec teams that are average.
     
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    ok i am a  huge bama fan since  many many year,first of all sorry my english is not perfect let me tell you what i think.

     all team who play  sec team in bowl  are much motivate than if they play other team and this is a fact listen player and coach after  game.

      after tcu pass  to 3  to 6 can you imagine the motivation for this team ?  today  it was the national champ for them  and when bo is bad he is very bad.

    for g tech its very tough  to stop  a machine like this when they play with a special qb  maybe the best they have since many years, this year many team  in sec  have to replace  new qb who are in nfl,jonny,zac,murray ,shaw etc....and dont forget bro the media espn said 25 times by game  its  sec the best ,in each power division   at least  one team can beat  best sec any given sathurday !!!

    once again  sorry for my poor english i explain what i think in mi 3 language  !!!


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    ok i am a  huge bama fan since  many many year,first of all sorry my english is not perfect let me tell you what i think.

     all team who play  sec team in bowl  are much motivate than if they play other team and this is a fact listen player and coach after  game.

      after tcu pass  to 3  to 6 can you imagine the motivation for this team ?  today  it was the national champ for them  and when bo is bad he is very bad.

    for g tech its very tough  to stop  a machine like this when they play with a special qb  maybe the best they have since many years, this year many team  in sec  have to replace  new qb who are in nfl,jonny,zac,murray ,shaw etc....and dont forget bro the media espn said 25 times by game  its  sec the best ,in each power division   at least  one team can beat  best sec any given sathurday !!!

    once again  sorry for my poor english i explain what i think in mi 3 language  !!!


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by yomh1964:

    ok i am a  huge bama fan since  many many year,first of all sorry my english is not perfect let me tell you what i think. all team who play  sec team in bowl  are much motivate than if they play other team and this is a fact listen player and coach after  game.  after tcu pass  to 3  to 6 can you imagine the motivation for this team ?  today  it was the national champ for them  and when bo is bad he is very bad.for g tech its very tough  to stop  a machine like this when they play with a special qb  maybe the best they have since many years, this year many team  in sec  have to replace  new qb who are in nfl,jonny,zac,murray ,shaw etc....and dont forget bro the media espn said 25 times by game  its  sec the best ,in each power division   at least  one team can beat  best sec any given sathurday !!!once again  sorry for my poor english i explain what i think in mi 3 language  !!!


    Your English is every bit as good as most SEC fans I've met, no worries there bro

    Happy New Year
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    Quote Originally Posted by yomh1964:

    ok i am a  huge bama fan since  many many year,first of all sorry my english is not perfect let me tell you what i think. all team who play  sec team in bowl  are much motivate than if they play other team and this is a fact listen player and coach after  game.  after tcu pass  to 3  to 6 can you imagine the motivation for this team ?  today  it was the national champ for them  and when bo is bad he is very bad.for g tech its very tough  to stop  a machine like this when they play with a special qb  maybe the best they have since many years, this year many team  in sec  have to replace  new qb who are in nfl,jonny,zac,murray ,shaw etc....and dont forget bro the media espn said 25 times by game  its  sec the best ,in each power division   at least  one team can beat  best sec any given sathurday !!!once again  sorry for my poor english i explain what i think in mi 3 language  !!!


    Your English is every bit as good as most SEC fans I've met, no worries there bro

    Happy New Year
     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2015 - 2:10 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:



    Your English is every bit as good as most SEC fans I've met, no worries there bro

    Happy New Year

    HA! Sick burn WahooS Happy New Year lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:



    Your English is every bit as good as most SEC fans I've met, no worries there bro

    Happy New Year

    HA! Sick burn WahooS Happy New Year lol
     
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    ALl Ohio State has to do is win outright (not just cover) and the debate is over. But of course a few SEC teams will pick up late bowl wins, like Florida, to help out the record, so SEC control will go on. Miss St being ranked #7 was a joke all season long, as well as Ol Miss being in the top 5. The media led by ESPN is pulling a great one over the public for money.

    Ohio St covers, but I think the biggest blin the gutters result would be a Wisconsin win over Auburn. Would be huge

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    ALl Ohio State has to do is win outright (not just cover) and the debate is over. But of course a few SEC teams will pick up late bowl wins, like Florida, to help out the record, so SEC control will go on. Miss St being ranked #7 was a joke all season long, as well as Ol Miss being in the top 5. The media led by ESPN is pulling a great one over the public for money.

    Ohio St covers, but I think the biggest blin the gutters result would be a Wisconsin win over Auburn. Would be huge

     
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    After GT abused Miss St, it marked the fifth time this season an ACC team beat a nonconference opponent ranked in the top 10. The rest of the country has just two such wins. For the season so far, the ACC holds a 5-3 record against the mighty SEC.
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    After GT abused Miss St, it marked the fifth time this season an ACC team beat a nonconference opponent ranked in the top 10. The rest of the country has just two such wins. For the season so far, the ACC holds a 5-3 record against the mighty SEC.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoplata123:

    In all honesty I have No bias towards any conference in college football nor do I follow any team seriously. I live in Las Vegas and cheer for yet Rebels lol.
    *Again Trying to be civil here... interested in both sides of spectrum. Not trying to push one side or the other, just my opinion. Im open to new ideas or a different outlook.

    Question: Do SEC teams subconsciously let down in these bowl games, because they play so many "Huge" "Emotional" "Primetime" games during the Year? Therefore making these bowl games an afterthought to a rugged season? Do you think Mississippi St put as much effort, time, or energy into their preparation and play into the match up with Georgia Tech as they did with Auburn, Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss??

    Has Georgia Tech played a game of this most personal importance? ACC Title game maybe?

    Nobody would refute the SEC has the overall best players... I mean, ask the NFL, year in year out SEC has highest # of players drafted. Therefore, Is the NFL biased?

    Happy NYE!



    Good thought and I personally could see a lot of validity in it.  Think about it from an SEC West perspective.  I'm sure those teams are buying into their own hype (whether legit or not) so when you are hailing from the "best division in college football ever" you are really playing for the National championship or at least the playoff.  When you don't get in there, how easy is it to get up for any other team, especially one from a perceived far lessor conference i.e. Georgia Tech who didn't even WIN their conference.  If you believe in letdown, trap games at all I would argue this is the ultimate trap situation.  

    Do these teams really care about beating Georgia Tech?  TCU?  Probably not.  They shot their load, it wasn't enough, now they just want to enjoy the Bowl perks and partying.  Win or lose, who cares?  all that matters is next year and winning the SEC.  Winning or losing the Fiesta bowl and such ultimately does NOTHING for them next year except maybe a higher preseason ranking which in reality only makes it harder (target on your back type situation).  Unless an SEC team somehow felt slighted about not getting into the NC picture, then that'd be a different story...much more to prove, way more hungry.  TCU had that motivation, Miss didn't.  Neither did Miss St. I think.  For the elite SEC teams, any bowl outside of the playoffs is a glorified preseason game in my opinion.

      
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoplata123:

    In all honesty I have No bias towards any conference in college football nor do I follow any team seriously. I live in Las Vegas and cheer for yet Rebels lol.
    *Again Trying to be civil here... interested in both sides of spectrum. Not trying to push one side or the other, just my opinion. Im open to new ideas or a different outlook.

    Question: Do SEC teams subconsciously let down in these bowl games, because they play so many "Huge" "Emotional" "Primetime" games during the Year? Therefore making these bowl games an afterthought to a rugged season? Do you think Mississippi St put as much effort, time, or energy into their preparation and play into the match up with Georgia Tech as they did with Auburn, Bama, LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss??

    Has Georgia Tech played a game of this most personal importance? ACC Title game maybe?

    Nobody would refute the SEC has the overall best players... I mean, ask the NFL, year in year out SEC has highest # of players drafted. Therefore, Is the NFL biased?

    Happy NYE!



    Good thought and I personally could see a lot of validity in it.  Think about it from an SEC West perspective.  I'm sure those teams are buying into their own hype (whether legit or not) so when you are hailing from the "best division in college football ever" you are really playing for the National championship or at least the playoff.  When you don't get in there, how easy is it to get up for any other team, especially one from a perceived far lessor conference i.e. Georgia Tech who didn't even WIN their conference.  If you believe in letdown, trap games at all I would argue this is the ultimate trap situation.  

    Do these teams really care about beating Georgia Tech?  TCU?  Probably not.  They shot their load, it wasn't enough, now they just want to enjoy the Bowl perks and partying.  Win or lose, who cares?  all that matters is next year and winning the SEC.  Winning or losing the Fiesta bowl and such ultimately does NOTHING for them next year except maybe a higher preseason ranking which in reality only makes it harder (target on your back type situation).  Unless an SEC team somehow felt slighted about not getting into the NC picture, then that'd be a different story...much more to prove, way more hungry.  TCU had that motivation, Miss didn't.  Neither did Miss St. I think.  For the elite SEC teams, any bowl outside of the playoffs is a glorified preseason game in my opinion.

      
     
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    If any team had an excuse for a letdown, that would be TCU, who dropped from 3 to 6 in the final committee rankings..... For no apparent reason. Did they whine and cry about it and act like they were going through the motions in their "meaningless" bowl?? Nope. Cut the excuse crap about the SEC teams getting their azzez spanked in bowls. They lost because they sucked and were overranked and overhyped. Nothing else.
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    If any team had an excuse for a letdown, that would be TCU, who dropped from 3 to 6 in the final committee rankings..... For no apparent reason. Did they whine and cry about it and act like they were going through the motions in their "meaningless" bowl?? Nope. Cut the excuse crap about the SEC teams getting their azzez spanked in bowls. They lost because they sucked and were overranked and overhyped. Nothing else.
     
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    Coaching explains bowl game results-both Miss teams coaches weren't as good as Patterson in motivating their teams..SEC teams let down like LSU all the time when it's not for big stakes-that's all they hear about year round and TCU had a mission to prove the committee wrong...

    Alabama will show enough tonight...
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    Coaching explains bowl game results-both Miss teams coaches weren't as good as Patterson in motivating their teams..SEC teams let down like LSU all the time when it's not for big stakes-that's all they hear about year round and TCU had a mission to prove the committee wrong...

    Alabama will show enough tonight...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    If any team had an excuse for a letdown, that would be TCU, who dropped from 3 to 6 in the final committee rankings..... For no apparent reason. Did they whine and cry about it and act like they were going through the motions in their "meaningless" bowl?? Nope. Cut the excuse crap about the SEC teams getting their azzez spanked in bowls. They lost because they sucked and were overranked and overhyped. Nothing else.

    Um.  No.  Getting slighted and going out and proving the committe wrong is completely different than being on the cusp of reaching the NC game and failing on your own then having a let down.  Like you said, TCU did everything they were supposed to and dropped through NO FAULT of their own.  That's chip on the shoulder territory.  But when a team like Ole Miss and Miss St. don't make the Playoffs because THEY lost their opportunity themselves?  completely different.  They have NO ONE to prove wrong when THEY THEMSELVES are the reason they are not in the CFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:

    If any team had an excuse for a letdown, that would be TCU, who dropped from 3 to 6 in the final committee rankings..... For no apparent reason. Did they whine and cry about it and act like they were going through the motions in their "meaningless" bowl?? Nope. Cut the excuse crap about the SEC teams getting their azzez spanked in bowls. They lost because they sucked and were overranked and overhyped. Nothing else.

    Um.  No.  Getting slighted and going out and proving the committe wrong is completely different than being on the cusp of reaching the NC game and failing on your own then having a let down.  Like you said, TCU did everything they were supposed to and dropped through NO FAULT of their own.  That's chip on the shoulder territory.  But when a team like Ole Miss and Miss St. don't make the Playoffs because THEY lost their opportunity themselves?  completely different.  They have NO ONE to prove wrong when THEY THEMSELVES are the reason they are not in the CFP.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Coaching explains bowl game results-both Miss teams coaches weren't as good as Patterson in motivating their teams..SEC teams let down like LSU all the time when it's not for big stakes-that's all they hear about year round and TCU had a mission to prove the committee wrong...

    Alabama will show enough tonight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Coaching explains bowl game results-both Miss teams coaches weren't as good as Patterson in motivating their teams..SEC teams let down like LSU all the time when it's not for big stakes-that's all they hear about year round and TCU had a mission to prove the committee wrong...

    Alabama will show enough tonight...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2015 - 8:35 AM ET #18

    I would recommend focusing on specific matchups and not the conferences, but public betting $ probably have (incorrectly) favored SEC teams based on reputation (not matchups) in some cases.
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    I would recommend focusing on specific matchups and not the conferences, but public betting $ probably have (incorrectly) favored SEC teams based on reputation (not matchups) in some cases.
     
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    Hey GoGo... I will chime in here.


    The excuse that " SEC " don't care about bowl games is the biggest lie every told. This is where they like to pump their chests. I hear it time and time again how " they don't want to be there "........Please stop it with the BS.

    Perfect example of EsecPN pulling their garbage was yesterday. Does Ole Miss " want " to be there? Stop it! If you believe that you're a moron who doesn't understand much about this game. Let me ask you this...... When was the last time Ole Piss and Miss st been meaningful games like they were yesterday? I'll give you a hint...Most of you weren't even born. The Mississippi are traditionally poor programs. They done a great job this year and deserve to be treated like good teams, but let's not stretch this thing anymore than it is. Both were " SEC OVERRATED " .... Old Piss like I have been telling you guys ALL YEAR is nothing like EsecPN would make them out to be.

    Point is, As I have said over and over and over and over.... The SEC IMO is the best overall conference right now.... but not by the margin that you're being led to believe. The proof is in the pudding....


    Good morning naesiy    
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    Hey GoGo... I will chime in here.


    The excuse that " SEC " don't care about bowl games is the biggest lie every told. This is where they like to pump their chests. I hear it time and time again how " they don't want to be there "........Please stop it with the BS.

    Perfect example of EsecPN pulling their garbage was yesterday. Does Ole Miss " want " to be there? Stop it! If you believe that you're a moron who doesn't understand much about this game. Let me ask you this...... When was the last time Ole Piss and Miss st been meaningful games like they were yesterday? I'll give you a hint...Most of you weren't even born. The Mississippi are traditionally poor programs. They done a great job this year and deserve to be treated like good teams, but let's not stretch this thing anymore than it is. Both were " SEC OVERRATED " .... Old Piss like I have been telling you guys ALL YEAR is nothing like EsecPN would make them out to be.

    Point is, As I have said over and over and over and over.... The SEC IMO is the best overall conference right now.... but not by the margin that you're being led to believe. The proof is in the pudding....


    Good morning naesiy    
     
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    And like I told another poster yesterday...

    Alabama may well win this thing. I think they may, im not sure about it...but they may. But the point is, what Alabama does isn't a reflection on the other 13 teams in that conference.

    Let's not forget that Old Piss beat Bama..... Think about that for a second.

    Plus, last time I saw a trevor knight led Oklahoma team that played Bama.....they took them to the woodshed.


    What G.T has done or what FSU has done or what Clemson has done in bowl games this year...... has nothing to do with the other.


     
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    And like I told another poster yesterday...

    Alabama may well win this thing. I think they may, im not sure about it...but they may. But the point is, what Alabama does isn't a reflection on the other 13 teams in that conference.

    Let's not forget that Old Piss beat Bama..... Think about that for a second.

    Plus, last time I saw a trevor knight led Oklahoma team that played Bama.....they took them to the woodshed.


    What G.T has done or what FSU has done or what Clemson has done in bowl games this year...... has nothing to do with the other.


     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    Hey GoGo... I will chime in here.The excuse that " SEC " don't care about bowl games is the biggest lie every told. This is where they like to pump their chests. I hear it time and time again how " they don't want to be there "........Please stop it with the BS.Perfect example of EsecPN pulling their garbage was yesterday. Does Ole Miss " want " to be there? Stop it! If you believe that you're a moron who doesn't understand much about this game. Let me ask you this...... When was the last time Ole Piss and Miss st been meaningful games like they were yesterday? I'll give you a hint...Most of you weren't even born. The Mississippi are traditionally poor programs. They done a great job this year and deserve to be treated like good teams, but let's not stretch this thing anymore than it is. Both were " SEC OVERRATED " .... Old Piss like I have been telling you guys ALL YEAR is nothing like EsecPN would make them out to be.Point is, As I have said over and over and over and over.... The SEC IMO is the best overall conference right now.... but not by the margin that you're being led to believe. The proof is in the pudding.... Good morning naesiy

    Those games yesterday were meaningless when it comes to a National Champion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    Hey GoGo... I will chime in here.The excuse that " SEC " don't care about bowl games is the biggest lie every told. This is where they like to pump their chests. I hear it time and time again how " they don't want to be there "........Please stop it with the BS.Perfect example of EsecPN pulling their garbage was yesterday. Does Ole Miss " want " to be there? Stop it! If you believe that you're a moron who doesn't understand much about this game. Let me ask you this...... When was the last time Ole Piss and Miss st been meaningful games like they were yesterday? I'll give you a hint...Most of you weren't even born. The Mississippi are traditionally poor programs. They done a great job this year and deserve to be treated like good teams, but let's not stretch this thing anymore than it is. Both were " SEC OVERRATED " .... Old Piss like I have been telling you guys ALL YEAR is nothing like EsecPN would make them out to be.Point is, As I have said over and over and over and over.... The SEC IMO is the best overall conference right now.... but not by the margin that you're being led to believe. The proof is in the pudding.... Good morning naesiy

    Those games yesterday were meaningless when it comes to a National Champion.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:


    Those games yesterday were meaningless when it comes to a National Champion.


    Meaningless..............unless they won and then it's chest pumping time, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:


    Those games yesterday were meaningless when it comes to a National Champion.


    Meaningless..............unless they won and then it's chest pumping time, right?


     
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    I hope I can provide a little insight as I am a huge sec homer, but I also follow all college football from the Mac to the pac(12). The most important factor in all this sec fandom is simple. Teams like tcu, oregon, and even ohst, could without a doubt beat every  team in the sec in a one game matchup. Here's what all the hoopla is about from the fans. tcu is very good, but when playing for example, Alabama at Tuscaloosa, followed by Arkansas at home, followed by ole miss at Oxford,then play south Carolina at home etc etc etc. The problem is when you play great team after great team that is also fueled by 40,50,60 years of rivalrys and disappointments, and huge emotional wins and losses, it makes each game every week the biggest game of the year. Teams like (this year) fsu, and ohst while having their own rivalry games seem to get a little more time between huge games to prepare. For example if say Arkansas who is a really good team this year, played ohst schedule you could make a strong case that they would be undefeated. Not 100% for a fact but you could argue that they run the table. The 6th or 7th best team in the sec!! Conversely if ohst played Arkansas schedule you can say that they would probably have at least 2 losses if not more. So I don't think that "we" think all of "our" are better than all other teams, it's just that the regular season is so much more of a grind week in and week out. Hope my rambling helps. Just make my take on things. Trying to put in words what most get all bent outta shape about.
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    I hope I can provide a little insight as I am a huge sec homer, but I also follow all college football from the Mac to the pac(12). The most important factor in all this sec fandom is simple. Teams like tcu, oregon, and even ohst, could without a doubt beat every  team in the sec in a one game matchup. Here's what all the hoopla is about from the fans. tcu is very good, but when playing for example, Alabama at Tuscaloosa, followed by Arkansas at home, followed by ole miss at Oxford,then play south Carolina at home etc etc etc. The problem is when you play great team after great team that is also fueled by 40,50,60 years of rivalrys and disappointments, and huge emotional wins and losses, it makes each game every week the biggest game of the year. Teams like (this year) fsu, and ohst while having their own rivalry games seem to get a little more time between huge games to prepare. For example if say Arkansas who is a really good team this year, played ohst schedule you could make a strong case that they would be undefeated. Not 100% for a fact but you could argue that they run the table. The 6th or 7th best team in the sec!! Conversely if ohst played Arkansas schedule you can say that they would probably have at least 2 losses if not more. So I don't think that "we" think all of "our" are better than all other teams, it's just that the regular season is so much more of a grind week in and week out. Hope my rambling helps. Just make my take on things. Trying to put in words what most get all bent outta shape about.
     
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    diehard seminole here. hows this for civil:

    SEC is unquestionably overrated after winning 6 natty champs in a row and dominating the NFL draft numbers for years. But can you really blame the media for this reaction?  Their JOB is to hype up stories and blow them out of proportion to increase interest. So that's a fairly easy diagnosis IMO..

    The better, more-important question is whether the SEC is actually the BEST conference. While the gap has been significantly narrowed in recent years, I just don't see how you can name a better conference with any confidence. The secret is out on the SEC's goldmine of sun-belt recruiting, and this is leading to a more balanced dispersion of these recruits. 

    Best example of this is the Noles. While we struggled mightily from 05-09, bringing in Jimbo (from the SEC) was the turning point. Not only did he regain FSU's in-state recruiting dominance, but he started snagging talent from georgia and alabama that we had failed to do for the past 10 years. This is clear to see now, and its happening more and more. If Clemson can ever shed their big-game-loser label, they'll be another prime example. 

    So basically, sec is overrated as FCK but still (unfortunately) the best in CFB. But enjoy it while you can sec-fanboys, cause its not going to be this way for much longer. 




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    diehard seminole here. hows this for civil:

    SEC is unquestionably overrated after winning 6 natty champs in a row and dominating the NFL draft numbers for years. But can you really blame the media for this reaction?  Their JOB is to hype up stories and blow them out of proportion to increase interest. So that's a fairly easy diagnosis IMO..

    The better, more-important question is whether the SEC is actually the BEST conference. While the gap has been significantly narrowed in recent years, I just don't see how you can name a better conference with any confidence. The secret is out on the SEC's goldmine of sun-belt recruiting, and this is leading to a more balanced dispersion of these recruits. 

    Best example of this is the Noles. While we struggled mightily from 05-09, bringing in Jimbo (from the SEC) was the turning point. Not only did he regain FSU's in-state recruiting dominance, but he started snagging talent from georgia and alabama that we had failed to do for the past 10 years. This is clear to see now, and its happening more and more. If Clemson can ever shed their big-game-loser label, they'll be another prime example. 

    So basically, sec is overrated as FCK but still (unfortunately) the best in CFB. But enjoy it while you can sec-fanboys, cause its not going to be this way for much longer. 




     
     
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    Kind of like Mizzou running sh it in the sec now just shows it's just another conference.
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    Kind of like Mizzou running sh it in the sec now just shows it's just another conference.
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