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    Taking Ole Miss to the Bank

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    Smoke_O
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 2:18 PM ET #26

    Snead is overrated IMO....he misses way too many passes and is not effective throwing on the move. SC will blitz the hell out of him and make him make quick decisions and or move him out of the pocket. Ole Miss has in my opinion 1 dynamic player on offense (his name eludes me right now) but he returns kicks, does the reverses, and plays WR. If SC keys on him and keeps the run game at bay this will be a tough one. One thing I do know is if the line is in the high 40s Im on the Under because both defenses are stout and aggressive. But the oddsmakers are telling us this will be a tough game. The #4 team in the land "only" laying 3 at a supposed middle tier SEC school. That screams SC but thats not enough for me to back them.
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    Snead is overrated IMO....he misses way too many passes and is not effective throwing on the move. SC will blitz the hell out of him and make him make quick decisions and or move him out of the pocket. Ole Miss has in my opinion 1 dynamic player on offense (his name eludes me right now) but he returns kicks, does the reverses, and plays WR. If SC keys on him and keeps the run game at bay this will be a tough one. One thing I do know is if the line is in the high 40s Im on the Under because both defenses are stout and aggressive. But the oddsmakers are telling us this will be a tough game. The #4 team in the land "only" laying 3 at a supposed middle tier SEC school. That screams SC but thats not enough for me to back them.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 3:40 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr803:

    SC moneyline --->  Snead is a good QB don't get me wrong, but the Gamecocks have a tough pass defense and they have been battle tested facing NC St. and Georgia...Ole Miss's first road game of the year comes at a bad time; on a Thursday Night versus a home dog with the better defense and better run game...gimme the upset....

    Pretty sure I watched Ole Miss play Memphis in Memphis...

    ps, SC has a better defense? Do you even watch football? SC has given 20 pts/g this year while Ole Miss has given 10 pts/g...

    Better run game? Who the eff are you?  Ole Miss avg 215/g while SC has avg 169/g...

    tough pass defense?  SC gave up over 200 yds passing to FL Atlantic... dumbass

     

    quit posting facts that are wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr803:

    SC moneyline --->  Snead is a good QB don't get me wrong, but the Gamecocks have a tough pass defense and they have been battle tested facing NC St. and Georgia...Ole Miss's first road game of the year comes at a bad time; on a Thursday Night versus a home dog with the better defense and better run game...gimme the upset....

    Pretty sure I watched Ole Miss play Memphis in Memphis...

    ps, SC has a better defense? Do you even watch football? SC has given 20 pts/g this year while Ole Miss has given 10 pts/g...

    Better run game? Who the eff are you?  Ole Miss avg 215/g while SC has avg 169/g...

    tough pass defense?  SC gave up over 200 yds passing to FL Atlantic... dumbass

     

    quit posting facts that are wrong...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 5:08 PM ET #28

    havent posted in a while.. recovering from some pretty bad beats.. but SC hasnt been battle tested either?? SC beat a NC st team who shouldve won that game anyway.. so youre telling me putting up a whopping 7 pts against NC st and letting UGA throw all over the damn field on you makes you battle tested?! It was 17-16 at halftime against FLA ATL at home!! let me guess, SC was looking past them and waiting on Ole Miss..SC scored 14 of the 21 pts in the second half off of TO's..yes home dogs do cover alot on Thursday nights, but alot of them are huge + pts and most are in conference games such as this.. Sure SC can win SU, but are you willing to hope SC can contain Ole Miss' offense and hope to outscore them?!
    Dont get things twisted and play games just cause all of last year home dogs covered.. this is a new year and a whole new beast.. and since you guys love stats and trends, in big time games, home dogs on weekdays are an 1-5 ats this season(Oregon, NC St, Clemson, Colorodo on fri, Fresno on fri with only Utah St covering)
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    havent posted in a while.. recovering from some pretty bad beats.. but SC hasnt been battle tested either?? SC beat a NC st team who shouldve won that game anyway.. so youre telling me putting up a whopping 7 pts against NC st and letting UGA throw all over the damn field on you makes you battle tested?! It was 17-16 at halftime against FLA ATL at home!! let me guess, SC was looking past them and waiting on Ole Miss..SC scored 14 of the 21 pts in the second half off of TO's..yes home dogs do cover alot on Thursday nights, but alot of them are huge + pts and most are in conference games such as this.. Sure SC can win SU, but are you willing to hope SC can contain Ole Miss' offense and hope to outscore them?!
    Dont get things twisted and play games just cause all of last year home dogs covered.. this is a new year and a whole new beast.. and since you guys love stats and trends, in big time games, home dogs on weekdays are an 1-5 ats this season(Oregon, NC St, Clemson, Colorodo on fri, Fresno on fri with only Utah St covering)
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 5:10 PM ET #29

    Sorry 1-6.. forgot the whooping Miami layed on all the GT backers taking home dogs
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    Sorry 1-6.. forgot the whooping Miami layed on all the GT backers taking home dogs
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 5:25 PM ET #30

    GT/miami was home fav -4?
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    GT/miami was home fav -4?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 5:26 PM ET #31

    sorry, misread something... i agree
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    sorry, misread something... i agree
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 5:30 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by donthate808:

    Sorry 1-6.. forgot the whooping Miami layed on all the GT backers taking home dogs

    Miami was favored in that game by 5 points... that makes them a favorite, not a "dog"... just because a certain poll thinks one team is ranked higher than the other, doesnt make them a favorite or a dog... its the point spread that makes them an underdog or a favorite... how long have you gambled? one year?

    Home DOGS that covered this year during the week:
    Bowling Green(Thursday)
    Toledo(Friday)

    Home DOGS that didnt cover this year during the week:
    Tulane(Friday)
    Fresno(Friday)

    You see, home dogs are UNDERDOGS at HOME during the week... and they are 2-2 ATS, 1-0 on Thursdays... Get your facts straight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by donthate808:

    Sorry 1-6.. forgot the whooping Miami layed on all the GT backers taking home dogs

    Miami was favored in that game by 5 points... that makes them a favorite, not a "dog"... just because a certain poll thinks one team is ranked higher than the other, doesnt make them a favorite or a dog... its the point spread that makes them an underdog or a favorite... how long have you gambled? one year?

    Home DOGS that covered this year during the week:
    Bowling Green(Thursday)
    Toledo(Friday)

    Home DOGS that didnt cover this year during the week:
    Tulane(Friday)
    Fresno(Friday)

    You see, home dogs are UNDERDOGS at HOME during the week... and they are 2-2 ATS, 1-0 on Thursdays... Get your facts straight...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 5:31 PM ET #33

    Good good good---We have some gameCOCK lovers in here.Keep it low for the
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    Good good good---We have some gameCOCK lovers in here.Keep it low for the
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 5:49 PM ET #34

    Ol Miss is a solid bet.
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    Ol Miss is a solid bet.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:10 PM ET #35

    What ever happened to picking plays based on matchups and not a home dog or road fav or any other system that just blindly makes a pick on something like that? I can see no real trend in any of those systems this season on non Saturday games. Am I missing something here? I am not pimpin anyone ok? just asking

     

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    What ever happened to picking plays based on matchups and not a home dog or road fav or any other system that just blindly makes a pick on something like that? I can see no real trend in any of those systems this season on non Saturday games. Am I missing something here? I am not pimpin anyone ok? just asking

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:11 PM ET #36

    WEEK 1                              

    South Carolina               7     Road Dog Covers

    N.C. State          -5        3     Home Fav Does Not Cover

     

    Troy                  -7       14    Road Fav Does Not Cover

    Bowling Green             31    Home Dog Covers

     

    North Texas                 20    Road Dog Covers

    Ball State           -16.5   10    Home Fav Does Not Cover

     

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    WEEK 1                              

    South Carolina               7     Road Dog Covers

    N.C. State          -5        3     Home Fav Does Not Cover

     

    Troy                  -7       14    Road Fav Does Not Cover

    Bowling Green             31    Home Dog Covers

     

    North Texas                 20    Road Dog Covers

    Ball State           -16.5   10    Home Fav Does Not Cover

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:11 PM ET #37

    Utah State                    17    Road Dog Does Not Cover

    Utah                  -20.5   33    Home Fav Covers

     

    Oregon                         8     Road Dog Does Not Cover

    Boise State         -3.5    19    Home Fav Covers

     

    Tulsa                -14      37    Road Fav Covers

    Tulane                        13    Home Dog Does Not Cover

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    Utah State                    17    Road Dog Does Not Cover

    Utah                  -20.5   33    Home Fav Covers

     

    Oregon                         8     Road Dog Does Not Cover

    Boise State         -3.5    19    Home Fav Covers

     

    Tulsa                -14      37    Road Fav Covers

    Tulane                        13    Home Dog Does Not Cover

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:11 PM ET #38

    WEEK 2

    Clemson                      27    Road Dog Covers

    Georgia Tech     -4.5    30    Home Fav Does Not Cover

     

    Colorado           -4       38    Road Fav Does Not Cover

    Toledo                        54    Home Dog Covers

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    WEEK 2

    Clemson                      27    Road Dog Covers

    Georgia Tech     -4.5    30    Home Fav Does Not Cover

     

    Colorado           -4       38    Road Fav Does Not Cover

    Toledo                        54    Home Dog Covers

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:12 PM ET #39

    WEEK 3

    Georgia Tech               17    Road Dog Does Not Cover

    Miami                -5.5    33    Home Fav Covers

     

    Boise State         -7.5    51    Road Fav Covers

    Fresno State                 34    Home Dog Does Not Cover

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    WEEK 3

    Georgia Tech               17    Road Dog Does Not Cover

    Miami                -5.5    33    Home Fav Covers

     

    Boise State         -7.5    51    Road Fav Covers

    Fresno State                 34    Home Dog Does Not Cover

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:12 PM ET #40

    Home Dogs

          2 Home Dogs Cover

          2 Home Dogs Do Not Cover

    Home Favs

          3 Home Favs Cover

          3 Home Favs Do Not Cover

    Road Dogs

          3 Road Dogs Cover

          3 Road Dogs Do Not Cover

    Road Favs

          2 Road Fav Covers

          2 Road Favs Do Not Cover

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    Home Dogs

          2 Home Dogs Cover

          2 Home Dogs Do Not Cover

    Home Favs

          3 Home Favs Cover

          3 Home Favs Do Not Cover

    Road Dogs

          3 Road Dogs Cover

          3 Road Dogs Do Not Cover

    Road Favs

          2 Road Fav Covers

          2 Road Favs Do Not Cover

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 6:19 PM ET #41

    Can anybody hear speak to how this Rebel team compares to the team that destroyed TxTech in their bowl game......What'd they lose.....what have they gained???
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    Can anybody hear speak to how this Rebel team compares to the team that destroyed TxTech in their bowl game......What'd they lose.....what have they gained???
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:06 PM ET #42

    thanx for posting all those ATL.
    so basically 2 home dogs and 2 road faves have covered this year
    in weeknight games. 50/50.
    the 2 road faves that covered were high scoring teams(Tulsa&Boise) playing  opponents they have owned(tulane&fresno).
    The 2 home dogs that have covered(Toledo&BG) .
    Toledo against a bad CO team.
    and considering SoCar won at Ole Miss last year, and almost beat UGA down there I ll take the points at home.
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    thanx for posting all those ATL.
    so basically 2 home dogs and 2 road faves have covered this year
    in weeknight games. 50/50.
    the 2 road faves that covered were high scoring teams(Tulsa&Boise) playing  opponents they have owned(tulane&fresno).
    The 2 home dogs that have covered(Toledo&BG) .
    Toledo against a bad CO team.
    and considering SoCar won at Ole Miss last year, and almost beat UGA down there I ll take the points at home.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:10 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:

    Can anybody hear speak to how this Rebel team compares to the team that destroyed TxTech in their bowl game......What'd they lose.....what have they gained???

     

    Although two All-American linemen and a big-play receiver are headed for the NFL, the program seems to be in good hands. The stars of this game -- McCluster, quarterback Jevan Snead, and cornerback-punt returner Marshay Green -- are all coming back.

    add to this is   running  back Brandon Bolden (who rushed for  101 yrds in the  cotton bowl as  freshman)  and  this  year is  8 yrds per  carry

     

    Marshay Green  switched  to  defensive cornerback from  offensive side....  so  this is  his  second  year. 

    Also,  Nutt and Nix are  second year coaches.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:

    Can anybody hear speak to how this Rebel team compares to the team that destroyed TxTech in their bowl game......What'd they lose.....what have they gained???

     

    Although two All-American linemen and a big-play receiver are headed for the NFL, the program seems to be in good hands. The stars of this game -- McCluster, quarterback Jevan Snead, and cornerback-punt returner Marshay Green -- are all coming back.

    add to this is   running  back Brandon Bolden (who rushed for  101 yrds in the  cotton bowl as  freshman)  and  this  year is  8 yrds per  carry

     

    Marshay Green  switched  to  defensive cornerback from  offensive side....  so  this is  his  second  year. 

    Also,  Nutt and Nix are  second year coaches.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:14 PM ET #44

    Sorry didnt mean to stir the pot.. haha gambling for a year.. but yea forgot Miami was at home.. forgot about toledo as well.. but you get my point.. its not covering at 70 something percent this year as it was last year.. play SC if you want, but i just hope you people that back SC arent thinking to yourselves in the 2nd quarter saying "why the fuck did i back this sorry team.. ill never back them again!"
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    Sorry didnt mean to stir the pot.. haha gambling for a year.. but yea forgot Miami was at home.. forgot about toledo as well.. but you get my point.. its not covering at 70 something percent this year as it was last year.. play SC if you want, but i just hope you people that back SC arent thinking to yourselves in the 2nd quarter saying "why the fuck did i back this sorry team.. ill never back them again!"
     
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    Ole Miss lost three starters off an offensive line that paved the way for last year's breakout 9-4 season, including All-American left tackle Michael Oher. With most of its skill players returning and eight starters back on defense, how sturdily the new line is built around returning right tackle John Jerry and center Daverin Geralds could be the key to Ole Miss' 2009 season.
     

    Defensively, the Rebels must replace All-American tackle Peria Jerry and their second-leading tackler, safety Jamarca Sanford, but appear to have experienced replacements ready to step in.

    If preseason All-SEC pick Greg Hardy can stay healthy, the defensive line should be one of the best in the conference.

    "The strength of our team is the defensive line," said Nutt, who has three starters plus Hardy returning up front. "We have some depth there."

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    Ole Miss lost three starters off an offensive line that paved the way for last year's breakout 9-4 season, including All-American left tackle Michael Oher. With most of its skill players returning and eight starters back on defense, how sturdily the new line is built around returning right tackle John Jerry and center Daverin Geralds could be the key to Ole Miss' 2009 season.
     

    Defensively, the Rebels must replace All-American tackle Peria Jerry and their second-leading tackler, safety Jamarca Sanford, but appear to have experienced replacements ready to step in.

    If preseason All-SEC pick Greg Hardy can stay healthy, the defensive line should be one of the best in the conference.

    "The strength of our team is the defensive line," said Nutt, who has three starters plus Hardy returning up front. "We have some depth there."

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:37 PM ET #46

     
    Ole Miss  Offensive starters
     
    Center       6-2   312 lbs   Senior
    Off Guard  6-2   300 lbs   Senior
    Off Guard  6-6   310 lbs   Senior
    Off Tackle  6-5  350 lbs   Senior
    Off Tackle  6-7  310 lbs   Soph
     
    Tight End   (starter is injured)
    Tight End   6-4  225lbs redshirt freshman
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    Ole Miss  Offensive starters
     
    Center       6-2   312 lbs   Senior
    Off Guard  6-2   300 lbs   Senior
    Off Guard  6-6   310 lbs   Senior
    Off Tackle  6-5  350 lbs   Senior
    Off Tackle  6-7  310 lbs   Soph
     
    Tight End   (starter is injured)
    Tight End   6-4  225lbs redshirt freshman
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:42 PM ET #47

    Ole miss wins by 7-10 points.  South carolina will have less than 80 yards rushing against the Landsharks.
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    Ole miss wins by 7-10 points.  South carolina will have less than 80 yards rushing against the Landsharks.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:45 PM ET #48

    Ole Miss to the Banky!
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    Ole Miss to the Banky!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2009 - 7:57 PM ET #49

    Ill admit that Ole Miss is a pretty square play.. but there have been alot of square plays hitting as of late
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    Ill admit that Ole Miss is a pretty square play.. but there have been alot of square plays hitting as of late
     
     
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    Here is my take:  Ole Miss will not have an easy time because of the hostile environment and the Thursday home advantage.  Short week is very tough on road teams.  That being said, Ole Miss is the better team and if the Rebels win the turnover battle they will win the game.
     
     
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    Here is my take:  Ole Miss will not have an easy time because of the hostile environment and the Thursday home advantage.  Short week is very tough on road teams.  That being said, Ole Miss is the better team and if the Rebels win the turnover battle they will win the game.
     
     
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