I just dont think UM is very good. But still, that game was in the great state of Michigan.
I dont hose down this Iowa defense as everyone else does. I have bet against Iowa this year, never on. I think they are terribly overrated. Which is the same thing I think about the MSU LBs.
I just think Iowa is the tougher team at this point. Who knows if that translates to a cover.
Fair enough.. also, if you want to talk about over-rated LBs.. two of Iowa's starters are out for tomorrow's game.. both replacements are frosh.. one is back-up and one is third string..
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Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:
I just dont think UM is very good. But still, that game was in the great state of Michigan.
I dont hose down this Iowa defense as everyone else does. I have bet against Iowa this year, never on. I think they are terribly overrated. Which is the same thing I think about the MSU LBs.
I just think Iowa is the tougher team at this point. Who knows if that translates to a cover.
Fair enough.. also, if you want to talk about over-rated LBs.. two of Iowa's starters are out for tomorrow's game.. both replacements are frosh.. one is back-up and one is third string..
taking your excerpt, "we have seen MSU on the road agaist less talented teams and its not too impressive."
Holding UM to its lowest point and yardage total of the year should count for something.. Not going to fault you for taking Iowa as the line says it all here.. just be careful.. this Iowa D has looked quite shaky so far and its best win is Penn State . not to mention MSU has HUGE revenge from last year..
I'm torn between this game and the Nebraska/Mizzou game. I think one of these two doesn't play out (ala Iowa vs Wisky and MSU vs NWestern last week). I can easily see Iowa covering a TD, they have a defense to support it and Mich St has a defense that can be scored on (they were covering Wisky by a TD late in the 4th). And they also have the situational advantage comming off a loss and back to back home games.
I'm leaning towards Mizzou losing but Nebraska not be able to cover 7.5. I know the situation is positive with Mizzou riding a real high but they are getting no respect and Nebraska is getting a tremendous amount and is also comming off a win. Mizzou defense has not allowed more than 27 points and played some decent opponents (OU, Illinois, A&M, SDST....). Nebraska on the other hand has not played anyone with a defense save Texas. And when they played a good offense (Ok. State) they gave up 41 pts.
SNF and RJ, appreciate your thoughts on these.
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Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:
On most, agree on all except for Iowa..
taking your excerpt, "we have seen MSU on the road agaist less talented teams and its not too impressive."
Holding UM to its lowest point and yardage total of the year should count for something.. Not going to fault you for taking Iowa as the line says it all here.. just be careful.. this Iowa D has looked quite shaky so far and its best win is Penn State . not to mention MSU has HUGE revenge from last year..
I'm torn between this game and the Nebraska/Mizzou game. I think one of these two doesn't play out (ala Iowa vs Wisky and MSU vs NWestern last week). I can easily see Iowa covering a TD, they have a defense to support it and Mich St has a defense that can be scored on (they were covering Wisky by a TD late in the 4th). And they also have the situational advantage comming off a loss and back to back home games.
I'm leaning towards Mizzou losing but Nebraska not be able to cover 7.5. I know the situation is positive with Mizzou riding a real high but they are getting no respect and Nebraska is getting a tremendous amount and is also comming off a win. Mizzou defense has not allowed more than 27 points and played some decent opponents (OU, Illinois, A&M, SDST....). Nebraska on the other hand has not played anyone with a defense save Texas. And when they played a good offense (Ok. State) they gave up 41 pts.
Looking at - Saints, San Diego and Arizona. I think I will be going on SD and Zona.
I used KC week 1.
I used KC last week and SD a few weeks ago. I have NYJ, NE, and available but I'm leary of at least one of those being an upset (I know there is no way Minnesota should beat NE at home but anything that can happen in the NFL will).
This probably sounds crazy but I'm going with Dallas this week. I think they have a great shot of beating Jacksonville even without Romo and if there is an upset in any of those other games the field will be cut severely.
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Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:
Looking at - Saints, San Diego and Arizona. I think I will be going on SD and Zona.
I used KC week 1.
I used KC last week and SD a few weeks ago. I have NYJ, NE, and available but I'm leary of at least one of those being an upset (I know there is no way Minnesota should beat NE at home but anything that can happen in the NFL will).
This probably sounds crazy but I'm going with Dallas this week. I think they have a great shot of beating Jacksonville even without Romo and if there is an upset in any of those other games the field will be cut severely.
Also on the AF/Utah game -- could you be buying Air Force at a better time than right now? It's basically impossible. Air Force NEVER gets beat by 10+ unless it's at TCU. They always struggle at Amon Carter, always. That's just a given and why TCU -19 was such an easy bet last week. TCU spends a part of their spring game specifically defending the Air Force offense. That's just an auto-bet every 2 years for me.
I agree RJ, calling Air Force to get beaten by more than 7 by anyone at home is insane. This is the same team that, the week before, had only lost to 2 teams by a combined 5 points! Now they're going to get steamrolled by a Utah team that has literally played nobody?
With you on Ole Miss but I can't back Texas, although the offense should look much better this week against a laughable Baylor defense. Can you say 15 yard cushions for receivers?
Best of luck RJ
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Also on the AF/Utah game -- could you be buying Air Force at a better time than right now? It's basically impossible. Air Force NEVER gets beat by 10+ unless it's at TCU. They always struggle at Amon Carter, always. That's just a given and why TCU -19 was such an easy bet last week. TCU spends a part of their spring game specifically defending the Air Force offense. That's just an auto-bet every 2 years for me.
I agree RJ, calling Air Force to get beaten by more than 7 by anyone at home is insane. This is the same team that, the week before, had only lost to 2 teams by a combined 5 points! Now they're going to get steamrolled by a Utah team that has literally played nobody?
With you on Ole Miss but I can't back Texas, although the offense should look much better this week against a laughable Baylor defense. Can you say 15 yard cushions for receivers?
Mizzou riding a real high but they are getting no respect
Mizzou is getting respect from bettor and from the public.
Its the oddsmakers not giving them any respect. Its something I agree with the oddsmakers on.
And yes, I hit Mizzou last week. Its all situational plays. Mizzou was in a fantastic one last week and played better than they are. Its tough for teams to duplicate efforts like that.
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Quote Originally Posted by JBone_Texas:
Mizzou riding a real high but they are getting no respect
Mizzou is getting respect from bettor and from the public.
Its the oddsmakers not giving them any respect. Its something I agree with the oddsmakers on.
And yes, I hit Mizzou last week. Its all situational plays. Mizzou was in a fantastic one last week and played better than they are. Its tough for teams to duplicate efforts like that.
Utah has played Pitt and at Iowa State......not murderer's row, but not total nobodies either.....certainly they have played the equivalent of Air Force.
I'm not on this game, but I'm not sure it is accurate to say Utah hasn't played anyone.
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Utah has played Pitt and at Iowa State......not murderer's row, but not total nobodies either.....certainly they have played the equivalent of Air Force.
I'm not on this game, but I'm not sure it is accurate to say Utah hasn't played anyone.
I used KC last week and SD a few weeks ago. I have NYJ, NE, and available but I'm leary of at least one of those being an upset (I know there is no way Minnesota should beat NE at home but anything that can happen in the NFL will).
This probably sounds crazy but I'm going with Dallas this week. I think they have a great shot of beating Jacksonville even without Romo and if there is an upset in any of those other games the field will be cut severely.
I would have used Dallas too, but I used all 3 of my picks on them when they played Houston.
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Quote Originally Posted by JBone_Texas:
I used KC last week and SD a few weeks ago. I have NYJ, NE, and available but I'm leary of at least one of those being an upset (I know there is no way Minnesota should beat NE at home but anything that can happen in the NFL will).
This probably sounds crazy but I'm going with Dallas this week. I think they have a great shot of beating Jacksonville even without Romo and if there is an upset in any of those other games the field will be cut severely.
I would have used Dallas too, but I used all 3 of my picks on them when they played Houston.
Utah has played Pitt and at Iowa State......not murderer's row, but not total nobodies either.....certainly they have played the equivalent of Air Force.
I'm not on this game, but I'm not sure it is accurate to say Utah hasn't played anyone.
Lets ignore our perceptions. Lets ignore me saying Utah has played nobody, thats my perception. Lets ignore you saying Pitt and Iowa State arent total nobodies, thats your perception.
Now that we are both removed from the argument and any inherent biases we have...lets look at SOS.... Site 1
Site 2
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Quote Originally Posted by mmac66:
Utah has played Pitt and at Iowa State......not murderer's row, but not total nobodies either.....certainly they have played the equivalent of Air Force.
I'm not on this game, but I'm not sure it is accurate to say Utah hasn't played anyone.
Lets ignore our perceptions. Lets ignore me saying Utah has played nobody, thats my perception. Lets ignore you saying Pitt and Iowa State arent total nobodies, thats your perception.
Now that we are both removed from the argument and any inherent biases we have...lets look at SOS.... Site 1
I agree with the situational plays. The situation for Michigan State is worse than Mizzou. Actually I think Mizzou is in a similar situation as Whisky was last week (beating Ohio St then going on the road and playing Iowa who was comming off a win). And at 7.5 I'm not sure that Nebraska doesn't win but not cover.
The Iowa/Whisky game was 5.5 and Iowa could have covered 7, but not 7.5. Like I said I'm just torn a bit here.
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I agree with the situational plays. The situation for Michigan State is worse than Mizzou. Actually I think Mizzou is in a similar situation as Whisky was last week (beating Ohio St then going on the road and playing Iowa who was comming off a win). And at 7.5 I'm not sure that Nebraska doesn't win but not cover.
The Iowa/Whisky game was 5.5 and Iowa could have covered 7, but not 7.5. Like I said I'm just torn a bit here.
I agree RJ, calling Air Force to get beaten by more than 7 by anyone at home is insane. This is the same team that, the week before, had only lost to 2 teams by a combined 5 points! Now they're going to get steamrolled by a Utah team that has literally played nobody?
I completely agree. I have a high perception of this AF team, but I dont get how I am always opposite. My perception is always different than everyone elses. I dont get how.
I was all over AF when they played BYU. Fantastic spot. With revenge. Nobody liked.
I was all over AF when they played Oklahoma. Fantastic spot. Not one person agreed or wanted to play it. Fine. I get it. OU is a juggenaut. Tough to bet against.
Then I decide it was time to fade AF in Wyoming. Another fantastic bet. Another time nobody liked it.
Now, when there is another great spot to bet on AF, of course, most people dont agree.
I dont get it.
Why is it that people dont like this AF team? I think they are just buying at the wrong time and underestimating. Bad idea.
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Quote Originally Posted by Rollbama1237:
I agree RJ, calling Air Force to get beaten by more than 7 by anyone at home is insane. This is the same team that, the week before, had only lost to 2 teams by a combined 5 points! Now they're going to get steamrolled by a Utah team that has literally played nobody?
I completely agree. I have a high perception of this AF team, but I dont get how I am always opposite. My perception is always different than everyone elses. I dont get how.
I was all over AF when they played BYU. Fantastic spot. With revenge. Nobody liked.
I was all over AF when they played Oklahoma. Fantastic spot. Not one person agreed or wanted to play it. Fine. I get it. OU is a juggenaut. Tough to bet against.
Then I decide it was time to fade AF in Wyoming. Another fantastic bet. Another time nobody liked it.
Now, when there is another great spot to bet on AF, of course, most people dont agree.
I dont get it.
Why is it that people dont like this AF team? I think they are just buying at the wrong time and underestimating. Bad idea.
I agree with the situational plays. The situation for Michigan State is worse than Mizzou. Actually I think Mizzou is in a similar situation as Whisky was last week (beating Ohio St then going on the road and playing Iowa who was comming off a win). And at 7.5 I'm not sure that Nebraska doesn't win but not cover.
The Iowa/Whisky game was 5.5 and Iowa could have covered 7, but not 7.5. Like I said I'm just torn a bit here.
I think you are wasting your time trying to see similarities.
The biggest suckers lines in the world are:
-6.5 +7.5
-2.5 +3.5
There is a reason those lines are always short or long. Dont worry about how an outcome is going to happen. Just let it happen.
When I make my bets, I dont know how its going to happen, I just plan on it happening.
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Quote Originally Posted by JBone_Texas:
I agree with the situational plays. The situation for Michigan State is worse than Mizzou. Actually I think Mizzou is in a similar situation as Whisky was last week (beating Ohio St then going on the road and playing Iowa who was comming off a win). And at 7.5 I'm not sure that Nebraska doesn't win but not cover.
The Iowa/Whisky game was 5.5 and Iowa could have covered 7, but not 7.5. Like I said I'm just torn a bit here.
I think you are wasting your time trying to see similarities.
The biggest suckers lines in the world are:
-6.5 +7.5
-2.5 +3.5
There is a reason those lines are always short or long. Dont worry about how an outcome is going to happen. Just let it happen.
When I make my bets, I dont know how its going to happen, I just plan on it happening.
Like the Air Force play a lot. My total of the week is the over in OKLA ST/KState game. Over 67..I see another 80 point plus final here. 47-42 type game.
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Like the Air Force play a lot. My total of the week is the over in OKLA ST/KState game. Over 67..I see another 80 point plus final here. 47-42 type game.
I guess my biggest question is your AF play... I think Utah will not fear the passing attack and can over commit to stop their running game; see the TCU game plan.....
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Nice card RJ
I guess my biggest question is your AF play... I think Utah will not fear the passing attack and can over commit to stop their running game; see the TCU game plan.....
I guess my biggest question is your AF play... I think Utah will not fear the passing attack and can over commit to stop their running game; see the TCU game plan.....
They would have done that last year too, though. They couldnt....
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Quote Originally Posted by AtlFader:
Nice card RJ
I guess my biggest question is your AF play... I think Utah will not fear the passing attack and can over commit to stop their running game; see the TCU game plan.....
They would have done that last year too, though. They couldnt....
Lets ignore our perceptions. Lets ignore me saying Utah has played nobody, thats my perception. Lets ignore you saying Pitt and Iowa State arent total nobodies, thats your perception.
Now that we are both removed from the argument and any inherent biases we have...lets look at SOS.... Site 1
I'm not arguing your Air Force pick.......I like the play.
I'm also not here to argue Utah's body of work ,which is less than impressive.
I just think it's a bit misleading to say that this is Utah's first test of the year......
I think Pitt opening the season was a test....although it was in SLC.
And I think Iowa State on the road is at least as big a test as going to Air Force.
Not saying ISU is great or Air Force is terrible, just that they are at least comparable.
Like I said, I like the play. GL RJ.
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Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:
Lets ignore our perceptions. Lets ignore me saying Utah has played nobody, thats my perception. Lets ignore you saying Pitt and Iowa State arent total nobodies, thats your perception.
Now that we are both removed from the argument and any inherent biases we have...lets look at SOS.... Site 1
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