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#26
Looks like O.J. S impson's lawyer will have another day in court
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Paterno Not Guilty? Not So Fast My Friend
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#29
Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:
Paterno ignored the fact that his coach was raping a child in a Penn State locker room shower.....McQueary is a slime-ball......He is complicit no doubt but he was not the leader of the Penn State football team and many would argue of the university.
He had a responsibility to follow up......and follow up.....and follow up to make sure this was acted upon and Sandusky turned into the authorities and eliminated from the university and the community for the continued safety of the university and the community moving forward.......If he knew was told that Sandusky had been observed stealing money from the athletic department petty cash box......should or would he have followed up on that? Of course...
Don't see how Paterno can look himself in the mirror......maybe it's the dementia that keeps him from realizing what he has done........I don't know what your excuse is.....
Joe did what was required by him by his employer which is to report it to his superiors which he did. Joe has no responsibility to 'follow up' when it's not his responsibility to do so. It's Joe's superiors responsibility to follow through with this serious situation. The only reason why Joe got fired is from public outrage and so PSU can save face. Joe is only a coach and an employee for PSU. Joe wasn't even a first hand witness to confidently say what really happened- all he can really do is report it.
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Posted:
#31
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
Joe did what was required by him by his employer which is to report it to his superiors which he did. Joe has no responsibility to 'follow up' when it's not his responsibility to do so. It's Joe's superiors responsibility to follow through with this serious situation. The only reason why Joe got fired is from public outrage and so PSU can save face. Joe is only a coach and an employee for PSU. Joe wasn't even a first hand witness to confidently say what really happened- all he can really do is report it.
Tell us....what would you have done? Would you have done any differently than Paterno......Your answer will reveal your character.....or lack of it.....
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Posted:
#32
Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:
Tell us....what would you have done? Would you have done any differently than Paterno......Your answer will reveal your character.....or lack of it.....
I'm sure the school has an 'employee rules handbook', and if one of those rules is that you need to report any alleged crime to your superior then that is exactly what I would do. Many of these establishment's rules is to not talk to the public- that is why they have pr reps etc. It's my responsibility to follow school protocol to protect myself and my employment. I'm not gonna go wild and call the press and police over hearsay. I'm not gonna jeapordize my job especially when I wasn't even a witness to what happened. I wouldn't jearpize sticking my neck out and risking losing my job over what I heard and might not necessarily even be true. Why do you think you need to report and have them do an internal investigation? And that is exactly what Joe did.
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#33
As per the Grand Jury : Mcqueary witnessed Sandusky naked in the shower w a 10 year old boy,,,A 10 YEAR OLD BOY..He had the 10 YEAR OLD BOY facing the tiles w his hands against the wall while he sodimized him ..
..This was reported by Mcqueary to Joe Pa and then Penn st Front offices AND NO ONE GRABBED SANDUSKY BEAT HIM SENSELESS AND DELIVERED HIM TO THE POLICE..
FRY THEM ALL JOE PA,MCQUEARY..EVERYONE WHO HAD KNOWLEDGE THAT A PREDATOR WAS ON THYE LOOSE..
..This was reported by Mcqueary to Joe Pa and then Penn st Front offices AND NO ONE GRABBED SANDUSKY BEAT HIM SENSELESS AND DELIVERED HIM TO THE POLICE..FRY THEM ALL JOE PA,MCQUEARY..EVERYONE WHO HAD KNOWLEDGE THAT A PREDATOR WAS ON THYE LOOSE..
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#34
Only people sympathetic to pedophiles or the "program" would have not either urged McQuery to call the police or to call the police themselves if you were the one who received eyewitness report of CHILD RAPE. Something is definitely fishy with Paterno and McQuery.
How hard is this to understand? Protocol or not, it's the most heinous of crimes out there. You don't refer to your school handbook for what you need to do next
How hard is this to understand? Protocol or not, it's the most heinous of crimes out there. You don't refer to your school handbook for what you need to do next
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Posted:
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
I'm sure the school has an 'employee rules handbook', and if one of those rules is that you need to report any alleged crime to your superior then that is exactly what I would do. Many of these establishment's rules is to not talk to the public- that is why they have pr reps etc. It's my responsibility to follow school protocol to protect myself and my employment. I'm not gonna go wild and call the press and police over hearsay. I'm not gonna jeapordize my job especially when I wasn't even a witness to what happened. I wouldn't jearpize sticking my neck out and risking losing my job over what I heard and might not necessarily even be true. Why do you think you need to report and have them do an internal investigation? And that is exactly what Joe did.
So after hearing that you have a child predator in your midst and then continue to see this monster on campus and in the athletic department and knowing he still has access to children through this sham foundation you would have no concern for these children's safety let alone your community and university residents??
You should thank God one of these children weren't yours who you seem so willing to feed to this child predator......lastly, the following words apply to you more than any I have run across lately.....
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt….Abraham Lincoln
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Posted:
#36
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
Joe did what was required by him by his employer which is to report it to his superiors which he did. Joe has no responsibility to 'follow up' when it's not his responsibility to do so. It's Joe's superiors responsibility to follow through with this serious situation. The only reason why Joe got fired is from public outrage and so PSU can save face. Joe is only a coach and an employee for PSU. Joe wasn't even a first hand witness to confidently say what really happened- all he can really do is report it.
You sir are a Fucking Idiot !!!! Use that little peanut in your brain and assume the child that was raped and sodomized was your son or younger brother....
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Posted:
#37
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
I'm sure the school has an 'employee rules handbook', and if one of those rules is that you need to report any alleged crime to your superior then that is exactly what I would do. Many of these establishment's rules is to not talk to the public- that is why they have pr reps etc. It's my responsibility to follow school protocol to protect myself and my employment. I'm not gonna go wild and call the press and police over hearsay. I'm not gonna jeapordize my job especially when I wasn't even a witness to what happened. I wouldn't jearpize sticking my neck out and risking losing my job over what I heard and might not necessarily even be true. Why do you think you need to report and have them do an internal investigation? And that is exactly what Joe did.
You make it seem like Joe Paterno was the cashier at a gas station. By the way, there are laws that protect Whistleblowers. I learned that in college. Also you wouldn't risk your neck cause you are a coward, Plain and Simple. if you had any balls you'd do the moral thing.
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#39
Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:
So after hearing that you have a child predator in your midst and then continue to see this monster on campus and in the athletic department and knowing he still has access to children through this sham foundation you would have no concern for these children's safety let alone your community and university residents??
You should thank God one of these children weren't yours who you seem so willing to feed to this child predator......lastly, the following words apply to you more than any I have run across lately.....
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt….Abraham Lincoln
You are a fool for trying to be judge jury and executioner on Joe. There's alot more people closer to this situation than Joe himself.
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#40
Quote Originally Posted by sergio1994:
Only people sympathetic to pedophiles or the "program" would have not either urged McQuery to call the police or to call the police themselves if you were the one who received eyewitness report of CHILD RAPE. Something is definitely fishy with Paterno and McQuery.
How hard is this to understand? Protocol or not, it's the most heinous of crimes out there. You don't refer to your school handbook for what you need to do next
Only people sympathetic to pedophiles or the "program" would have not either urged McQuery to call the police or to call the police themselves if you were the one who received eyewitness report of CHILD RAPE. Something is definitely fishy with Paterno and McQuery.
How hard is this to understand? Protocol or not, it's the most heinous of crimes out there. You don't refer to your school handbook for what you need to do next
even if YOU ARE the prgram, i still don't see how you can "sweep this under the rug" as Paterno did. WTF?
Do people really think he's a saint?
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#41
Quote Originally Posted by PokeSmot13:
You make it seem like Joe Paterno was the cashier at a gas station. By the way, there are laws that protect Whistleblowers. I learned that in college. Also you wouldn't risk your neck cause you are a coward, Plain and Simple. if you had any balls you'd do the moral thing.
The guy did report it to his superiors. He might not even be sure if McQueary's eyewitness account is true.
Everyone talks like they are so pious. A bunch of wannabes pretending they will do 'the right thing'.
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Posted:
#42
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
The guy did report it to his superiors. He might not even be sure if McQueary's eyewitness account is true.
Everyone talks like they are so pious. A bunch of wannabes pretending they will do 'the right thing'.
Well.....it's pretty obvious you're not pretending.....please don't tell me that you plan to invite Sandusky into your home for Thanksgiving....so he can deliver the gift that keeps on giving to your own children......with your blessing......please don't tell us that's your plan.....
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Posted:
#43
Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:
Well.....it's pretty obvious you're not pretending.....please don't tell me that you plan to invite Sandusky into your home for Thanksgiving....so he can deliver the gift that keeps on giving to your own children......with your blessing......please don't tell us that's your plan.....
Doesn't sound like you will ever be in a position to follow any rules since you might not have much to lose. Once you get ahold of the media and police and report what you 'heard', you will just get fired at Taco Bell and get a new job at Burger King. You can be Rambo.
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#45
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
Doesn't sound like you will ever be in a position to follow any rules since you might not have much to lose. Once you get ahold of the media and police and report what you 'heard', you will just get fired at Taco Bell and get a new job at Burger King. You can be Rambo.
And you'll probably go back to surfing the net for kiddie porn. Are you and Sandusky NAMBLA commrades?
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#46
Even if Joe did report what he 'heard' to the police, and after Joe gets fired for maybe breaking school policy, the question is would the police have been able to do anything about it?
It's not the school's or any professional establishment's goal to sweep things under the rug or do a coverup like many people on this forum are thinking, they want to properly do an internal investigation and take certain steps that are required by them. Obviously, PSU screwed up somewhere but doesn't mean that Joe did anything wrong.
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Posted:
#47
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
Even if Joe did report what he 'heard' to the police, and after Joe gets fired for maybe breaking school policy, the question is would the police have been able to do anything about it?
It's not the school's or any professional establishment's goal to sweep things under the rug or do a coverup like many people on this forum are thinking, they want to properly do an internal investigation and take certain steps that are required by them. Obviously, PSU screwed up somewhere but doesn't mean that Joe did anything wrong.
you obviously don't have any education, because then you'd know about the laws that protect whistleblowers.
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Posted:
#48
Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:
At least I'll know that my children and my neighbor's children are safe from the child predator in our midst that you seem so intent on protecting.....
At least I'll know that my children and my neighbor's children are safe from the child predator in our midst that you seem so intent on protecting.....
We have laws and rules in this society to protect people from the 'mob mentality' that you having.
Everyone knows that what happened is unfortunate and something should of been done about it when it happened. You would be an idiot to think otherwise. But to place all the blame on Joe is just as dumb.
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#50
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
I'm sure the school has an 'employee rules handbook', and if one of those rules is that you need to report any alleged crime to your superior then that is exactly what I would do. Many of these establishment's rules is to not talk to the public- that is why they have pr reps etc. It's my responsibility to follow school protocol to protect myself and my employment. I'm not gonna go wild and call the press and police over hearsay. I'm not gonna jeapordize my job especially when I wasn't even a witness to what happened. I wouldn't jearpize sticking my neck out and risking losing my job over what I heard and might not necessarily even be true. Why do you think you need to report and have them do an internal investigation? And that is exactly what Joe did.
Not risk losing your job or stick your neck out? I am almost sure those young boys really appreciate that. Who are they to expect you (an adult) to go above and beyond for them.
If someone comes to you and tells you the story that Mcreary did and it involves a person you have known for 35 years and almost considered family, I would think the reaction to hearing something like this would be total outrage to at least the situation. The thought wouldnt cross anyones mind to put mcreary and sandusky in the same room and put some shit on the table? I would completely lose it over what was said they saw and who was being accused. I would have needed to light this shit up like a roman candle and push to find some answers especially since this had already been brought up in the past as an issue! And everytime Sandusky shows up with 1 boy at a penn state practice, Doesn't the question even come to your mind? Doesn't faze your mind when your own children are around him? Following the letter of the law to protect an institutaion or an individual because you don't want to destroy their lives is an instant choice some one makes the minute that it happens. I just dont see any regard for the boys here at all. its all talk about whether or not Joe Pa followed the moral or legal steps neccesary and should he have been fired.
I guess even with the information that all of us has seen and heard about all this, can you look those certain individuals in the eyes and look at them the same way again. I cannot.
Tjohnson i am just making a point not starting an arguement
excuse all grammer and spelling (typing this in a training session and non considering important)
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