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Posted: #76
Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

Joe can admit that he didn't do enough (which he did).  Why can't you.

You can argue that many others were complicit in keeping this covered up....and they were.  Some even more so than Joe (hence the reason for the charges for others).  But that doesn't take Joe off the hook for not doing something.

Joe admitted that McQueary told him he witnessed something "sexually inappropriate and fondling" in the shower.

And all Joe did was report it and just forget about it forever....and you think that's OK?  Never asked McQueary for details.  In fact, I don't think he was ever involved in a discussion about what should be done after he pawned the responsibility off on the AD.

It's unforgiveable. 

How do you know?  I wasn't there so I won't assume. 

How often do you hear of a crime and call the police and tell them you heard something?

He handed over information he heard just as if you would call the police to tell them something you witnessed or heard.  From there would you call the police to follow up or would you assume that the police will take the necessary steps to do their job?   Joe had a job and he did it, it's now up to his superiors to do their job.  Just because his superiors higher up in the chain didn't do their jobs or maybe did there jobs doesn't mean Joe is to be blamed.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

has a job to do also- he has to feed his family and do what he had to do. 

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So he can't do his job or feed his family if he reports some alleged illegal activity at his school?

Are you really this dumb?

He did his job and reported it.  He did his duty.   What else do you expect him to do?    He don't have to do anything besides what he did.  Didn't you hear what the police said?

 
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https://www.nesn.com/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-rumored-to-have-been-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors-says-mark-madden.html

 

I guess in the end the Donors/Stockholders were more important than the public.  Where have I seen this before??? 

 
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Again......this COVER UP was not conducted soley by Paterno.....I would ask whether local law enforcement got involved after the university police were informed.....If they were not then this COVER UP goes from the athletic dept to the upper levels of univ administration......But still.....Paterno could have exposed these atrocities if he had chosen to....

Time for the FBI to get involved....until they do it's the fox guarding the hen house.....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:

Everyone is saying Paterno commited no crime.....Well folks....being complicit in a COVER-UP of sex crimes...



thanks Joe!  nice to see someone around here has a brain on this subject...


and not only is it a cover-up... by definition, it is a conspiracy...

 
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From NESN :

In April, Pittsburgh radio host Mark Madden wrote a story revealing Penn State for much of the cover-up of Jerry Sandusky's alleged child rape that has been exposed in the past week. While it didn't raise many eyebrows back then, six months later it looks to be incredibly accurate.

On Thursday morning, just hours after legendary head coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier were fired by the school's board of trustees, Madden was asked on The Dennis and Callahan Show what he believes the next piece of news will be.

What he said was twice as shocking as anything that's been released thus far.

"I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might happen," Madden told John Dennis and Gerry Callahan. "I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile Foundation -- and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross, I will use the only language I can -- that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak."

After the news spread, Madden later explained via Twitter why he went public with the rumors.

"I normally abhor giving RUMORS credence," Madden wrote. "But whole Sandusky scandal started out as a RUMOR. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. One of state's top columnists investigating. That adds credence. I am NOT rumor's original source. [Why does] Sandusky deserve benefit of doubt?"

Madden also spoke more definitively on Dennis and Callahan to the cover-up efforts at the school and beyond that he expects will be made public soon.

"The other thing I think that may eventually become uncovered, and I talked about this in my original article back in April, is that I think they'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up," Madden said. "If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

"My opinion is when Sandusky quit, everybody knew -- not just at Penn State," Madden added. "I think it was a very poorly kept secret about college football in general, and that is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55. [That's] young for a coach, certainly."

 
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

He did his job and reported it.  He did his duty.   What else do you expect him to do?    He don't have to do anything besides what he did.  Didn't you hear what the police said?

He did what he had to legally.  Joe even admitted he didn't do enough.  If he can admit that, why can't you? 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:

Again......this COVER UP was not conducted soley by Paterno.....I would ask whether local law enforcement got involved after the university police were informed.....If they were not then this COVER UP goes from the athletic dept to the upper levels of univ administration......But still.....Paterno could have exposed these atrocities if he had chosen to....

Time for the FBI to get involved....until they do it's the fox guarding the hen house.....

Joe reported it but it's a coverup 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

He did his job and reported it. 


you are correct!  he did his job!


He did his duty.  


no!  and what the fuck is wrong with you that you could even make this statement?  how small can your brain possibly be?  that is almost unfathomable, that you can say he did his duty!... after he "did his job" and told his superiors... they failed to do anything about it!

at that point, it became HIS DUTY (as a fucking human being) to BLOW THE FUCKING WHISTLE ON ALL OF THEIR SCUMBAG ASSES, NO MATTER WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS ARE FOR HIM, HIS FRIENDS, HIS CAREER, THE UNIVERSITY OR HIS PRECIOUS FUCKING LEGACY!


fuck you if you really believe he did his duty, because it probably means you are an AMORAL SCUMBAG also... because only an AMORAL SCUMBAG could be struggling AT ALL with this issue...



What else do you expect him to do?    


i expect him to have a fucking soul... that's what!


even now, why is he still doing all this "no comment" protecxting my own ass bullshit?  he should be up on the highest mountain professing his error, professing his INVOLVEMENT, professing his guilt, and bringing every ounce of truth to this matter, no matter how it effects him...

otherwise, he is just reinforcing that he is all about Joe, the soulless, scumbag!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

Joe reported it but it's a coverup 

After the news spread, Madden later explained via Twitter why he went public with the rumors.

"I normally abhor giving RUMORS credence," Madden wrote. "But whole Sandusky scandal started out as a RUMOR. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. One of state's top columnists investigating. That adds credence. I am NOT rumor's original source. [Why does] Sandusky deserve benefit of doubt?"

Madden also spoke more definitively on Dennis and Callahan to the cover-up efforts at the school and beyond that he expects will be made public soon.

"The other thing I think that may eventually become uncovered, and I talked about this in my original article back in April, is that I think they'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up," Madden said. "If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

"My opinion is when Sandusky quit, everybody knew -- not just at Penn State," Madden added. "I think it was a very poorly kept secret about college football in general, and that is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55. [That's] young for a coach, certainly."

 

 

 
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Posted: #86
Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

Joe reported it but it's a coverup 



holy shit!  you are just a blithering idiot, aren't you... my bad for wasting my time... my 10 year old niece can grasp this concept, but you can't...

wow!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

He did what he had to legally.  Joe even admitted he didn't do enough.  If he can admit that, why can't you? 

What else would you expect him to say without making him sound silly?

I'm not sure if the school had a right to fire him.  It sounds to me Joe did everything that was required by him by the school.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by PokeSmot13:

From NESN :

In April, Pittsburgh radio host Mark Madden wrote a story revealing Penn State for much of the cover-up of Jerry Sandusky's alleged child rape that has been exposed in the past week. While it didn't raise many eyebrows back then, six months later it looks to be incredibly accurate.

On Thursday morning, just hours after legendary head coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier were fired by the school's board of trustees, Madden was asked on The Dennis and Callahan Show what he believes the next piece of news will be.

What he said was twice as shocking as anything that's been released thus far.

"I can give you a rumor and I can give you something I think might happen," Madden told John Dennis and Gerry Callahan. "I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile Foundation -- and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross, I will use the only language I can -- that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors. That was being investigated by two prominent columnists even as I speak."

After the news spread, Madden later explained via Twitter why he went public with the rumors.

"I normally abhor giving RUMORS credence," Madden wrote. "But whole Sandusky scandal started out as a RUMOR. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. One of state's top columnists investigating. That adds credence. I am NOT rumor's original source. [Why does] Sandusky deserve benefit of doubt?"

Madden also spoke more definitively on Dennis and Callahan to the cover-up efforts at the school and beyond that he expects will be made public soon.

"The other thing I think that may eventually become uncovered, and I talked about this in my original article back in April, is that I think they'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up," Madden said. "If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

"My opinion is when Sandusky quit, everybody knew -- not just at Penn State," Madden added. "I think it was a very poorly kept secret about college football in general, and that is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55. [That's] young for a coach, certainly."

Great reporting smot....why the networks are avoiding the discussions surrounding these facts that are being divulged... I cannot understand.

 
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Its a cover up.

you tell your boss

your boss tell his boss

his boss discusses with who he needs to

last boss tells everyone below him:"This is how we qre going to handle this situation:."Keep your mouth shup."

You say OK.

 
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Spring 2008 – Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.

Joe its seems like people have reported this guy throughout the years and nothing was ever done. Wheres the fucking police in all this. They even said back in 2002 the cops listened in on phone conversations with a parent and the weirdo but again it was just pushed under the table. How the fuck is this Joe Ps fault He reported what he had heard and thats that, He is a big time face maybe he didnt want to be in the middle of a sex crime scandal would you? This shit has probably haunted the old bastard forever but i dont think its his fault. Its the other weirdo and again where the fuck are the POLICE?

You people make me laugh with all your know it all bullshit when none of us know shit about it,,opinions are like assholes everyone has one. Joe Pa did not fuck any lil boys in the ass. Get off the old mans back and get on Sandusky,, he is the real fucking pig in all this.

 
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How long before Penn State runs out of money?  over/under 4.5 years
 
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Joe is... still to this moment... doing everything he can to protect his own ass, and painting a clear picture of a man who does not give a shit about doing what's right, or helping victims of a heinous crime get to the bottom of the truth...

he is a man who thinks of only himself, at the expense of others...

i.e.... scumbag!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

You are the same guy last season in NBA that said if others used PEDs you wouldn't and show them that you can beat them without using it.  We were talking about Neil Armstrong, remember?    Get back to earth. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by MAVERICKCAPPER:

Its a cover up.

you tell your boss

your boss tell his boss

his boss discusses with who he needs to

last boss tells everyone below him:"This is how we qre going to handle this situation:."Keep your mouth shup."

You say OK.




BOOM!  that is a coverup...

once the top guy got everyone together (and you bet your ass that happened), and they all agreed to keep their mouths shut... it became a coverup!

end of story, TJOHN... if you still can't get that, you are completely hopeless!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

You are the same guy last season in NBA that said if others used PEDs you wouldn't and show them that you can beat them without using it.  We were talking about Neil Armstrong, remember?    Get back to earth. 



um... no, i am definitely not that guy... since i was out of the country and did not wager on a single NBA game or make a single post on these threads...


i guess maybe you are just always confused about everything, huh?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by joewashington:

Great reporting smot....why the networks are avoiding the discussions surrounding these facts that are being divulged... I cannot understand.

Those are some pretty big allegations...Madden was just thinking out loud and asking questions.  Hard to report on that from a news perspective without some serious sources.

But you know whatever did happen will come out eventually. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by tagsrock:

Spring 2008 – Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.

Joe its seems like people have reported this guy throughout the years and nothing was ever done. Wheres the fucking police in all this. They even said back in 2002 the cops listened in on phone conversations with a parent and the weirdo but again it was just pushed under the table. How the fuck is this Joe Ps fault He reported what he had heard and thats that, He is a big time face maybe he didnt want to be in the middle of a sex crime scandal would you? This shit has probably haunted the old bastard forever but i dont think its his fault. Its the other weirdo and again where the fuck are the POLICE?

You people make me laugh with all your know it all bullshit when none of us know shit about it,,opinions are like assholes everyone has one. Joe Pa did not fuck any lil boys in the ass. Get off the old mans back and get on Sandusky,, he is the real fucking pig in all this.

Right....Paterno is innocent even watchng for years after Sandusky bringing young boys to campus and on team Bowl trips.....He might as well have been watching Sandusky in the shower as he raped children and then turned and walked away.....He said he should have done more?   What more?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by MAVERICKCAPPER:

Its a cover up.

you tell your boss

your boss tell his boss

his boss discusses with who he needs to

last boss tells everyone below him:"This is how we qre going to handle this situation:."Keep your mouth shup."

You say OK.

Is that a fact?   Has someone made a statement and admitted that is what happened or are you making this up?

Very possible that is what happened or is it also possible that Joe reported it and assumed it will be taken care of and let it be?  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by tagsrock:

Spring 2008 – Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.

Joe its seems like people have reported this guy throughout the years and nothing was ever done. Wheres the fucking police in all this. They even said back in 2002 the cops listened in on phone conversations with a parent and the weirdo but again it was just pushed under the table. How the fuck is this Joe Ps fault He reported what he had heard and thats that, He is a big time face maybe he didnt want to be in the middle of a sex crime scandal would you? This shit has probably haunted the old bastard forever but i dont think its his fault. Its the other weirdo and again where the fuck are the POLICE?

You people make me laugh with all your know it all bullshit when none of us know shit about it,,opinions are like assholes everyone has one. Joe Pa did not fuck any lil boys in the ass. Get off the old mans back and get on Sandusky,, he is the real fucking pig in all this.

There are reports that Sandusky was pimping out kids to donor of the school.  Last I checked Joe Paterno was a donor

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:



um... no, i am definitely not that guy... since i was out of the country and did not wager on a single NBA game or make a single post on these threads...


i guess maybe you are just always confused about everything, huh?

It was definitely you.   It wasn't last season but season before that when Lakers played Boston and the story about Lance came out.  Maybe you grew up and realized what you said was a joke.   

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