Finally someone who thinks the way I do and your exactly right about Okl being the much better team here...SHOULD BE 3.5... but its not. I HEAR ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT HOW LINESMAKERS DONT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME OF A GAME IS GONNA BE Ill even say that is true..But ill tell you one thing they DEFINITELY have more info on any game you or I will ever have, thats why this line is 10..GL...
AS U SAY MY FRIEND------ THE LINE TELLS U THE STORY OF THE GAME
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
Finally someone who thinks the way I do and your exactly right about Okl being the much better team here...SHOULD BE 3.5... but its not. I HEAR ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT HOW LINESMAKERS DONT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME OF A GAME IS GONNA BE Ill even say that is true..But ill tell you one thing they DEFINITELY have more info on any game you or I will ever have, thats why this line is 10..GL...
AS U SAY MY FRIEND------ THE LINE TELLS U THE STORY OF THE GAME
Finally someone who thinks the way I do and your exactly right about Okl being the much better team here...SHOULD BE 3.5... but its not. I HEAR ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT HOW LINESMAKERS DONT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME OF A GAME IS GONNA BE Ill even say that is true..But ill tell you one thing they DEFINITELY have more info on any game you or I will ever have, thats why this line is 10..GL...
it blows me away that people think this conspiracy stuff
using that same argument please explain why the line was only OU - 3 last season when Texas was horrible and OU was very good? because that would mean you liked Texas in this game last year if "the line tells the story" right?
except for one thing, I bet OU and they covered the 3 despite the FACT that the line should have been 7
I'm waiting for your explanation because your theory doesn't stack up from year to year
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
Finally someone who thinks the way I do and your exactly right about Okl being the much better team here...SHOULD BE 3.5... but its not. I HEAR ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT HOW LINESMAKERS DONT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME OF A GAME IS GONNA BE Ill even say that is true..But ill tell you one thing they DEFINITELY have more info on any game you or I will ever have, thats why this line is 10..GL...
it blows me away that people think this conspiracy stuff
using that same argument please explain why the line was only OU - 3 last season when Texas was horrible and OU was very good? because that would mean you liked Texas in this game last year if "the line tells the story" right?
except for one thing, I bet OU and they covered the 3 despite the FACT that the line should have been 7
I'm waiting for your explanation because your theory doesn't stack up from year to year
First I gotta get out that I have followed Texas football my entire life, being 30 I can remember since I was 5 or 6 watching UT. But what we do here is about making money and I layed the 9.5 with the sooners.
First couple games vs Rice and BYU, Texas looked like crap with Gilbert. Then they bench him and run this 2 qb thing, imo is garbage, but then we roll ucla and iowa st by double digits.
I really feel as if Texas is somewhere in the middle. They are better just for the fact that Gilbert is gone. Yet beating down UCLA and Iowa st is supposed to happen form Mack's Horns.
I made my bet on experience like boom said. Ash and McCoy will have their first real test here and it is very easy to have 1 turnover turn into 3, and in a game like this when that happens those 10 points will disappear.
I really hate to bet OU in this game, but from just a money making standpoint I think it is the play. I also think that 10 is bait for Texas bettors.
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take my words for what they are worth.
First I gotta get out that I have followed Texas football my entire life, being 30 I can remember since I was 5 or 6 watching UT. But what we do here is about making money and I layed the 9.5 with the sooners.
First couple games vs Rice and BYU, Texas looked like crap with Gilbert. Then they bench him and run this 2 qb thing, imo is garbage, but then we roll ucla and iowa st by double digits.
I really feel as if Texas is somewhere in the middle. They are better just for the fact that Gilbert is gone. Yet beating down UCLA and Iowa st is supposed to happen form Mack's Horns.
I made my bet on experience like boom said. Ash and McCoy will have their first real test here and it is very easy to have 1 turnover turn into 3, and in a game like this when that happens those 10 points will disappear.
I really hate to bet OU in this game, but from just a money making standpoint I think it is the play. I also think that 10 is bait for Texas bettors.
it blows me away that people think this conspiracy stuff
using that same argument please explain why the line was only OU - 3 last season when Texas was horrible and OU was very good? because that would mean you liked Texas in this game last year if "the line tells the story" right?
except for one thing, I bet OU and they covered the 3 despite the FACT that the line should have been 7
I'm waiting for your explanation because your theory doesn't stack up from year to year
What are you getting all worked up about?? First of all nobody really knew that Texas was that bad until after the Nebraska win , they wer 3-1 going into Okl last year just losing to UCLA.. Now i never said they are consistent with throwing out lines like for the same game year after year, if you have been betting sports as long as I have you see and notice alot of so called off lines..not every one of them is always what i think, but more often than not it is. I thought that this was a discussion thread, no need to get all flustered just because i voiced my opinion, now is there??? GL..
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
it blows me away that people think this conspiracy stuff
using that same argument please explain why the line was only OU - 3 last season when Texas was horrible and OU was very good? because that would mean you liked Texas in this game last year if "the line tells the story" right?
except for one thing, I bet OU and they covered the 3 despite the FACT that the line should have been 7
I'm waiting for your explanation because your theory doesn't stack up from year to year
What are you getting all worked up about?? First of all nobody really knew that Texas was that bad until after the Nebraska win , they wer 3-1 going into Okl last year just losing to UCLA.. Now i never said they are consistent with throwing out lines like for the same game year after year, if you have been betting sports as long as I have you see and notice alot of so called off lines..not every one of them is always what i think, but more often than not it is. I thought that this was a discussion thread, no need to get all flustered just because i voiced my opinion, now is there??? GL..
this one has to be OU or nothing.... *funny how so many see Texas as the "sharp" play here......> you may be right....ol Big Game Bob might screw it up.....
1) winner almost always covers...9 of last 10 games.....with maybe a push in '09....don't have ATS stats before that...but if memory serves....trend is consistent *like Texas?...play the ML or forget it....they should win a close one or get blown out *only 3 of last 13 haven't been decided by 10+
2) wanna bet the Horns?...better check Horn depth chart before you bet....maybe the youngest team I've seen... *O > 3 Fr start....7 underclassmen (Fr/Soph) in 2 deep OL !! (start 1 Fr/2 Soph/2 Sr)...total of 15 guys in 2 deep are Fr or Soph *D > 1st thing to check is back 7 (LB/DB).....10 of the 14 in the 2 deep are Fr or Soph....(5 true Fr / 5 Soph) ..........uh-oh
* Total......31/44 in 2 deep are Fr or Soph...including 14 true Fr ...+1 rFr.......a total of 22 Fr or so play at times > unbelievable
OU?....O is young too (4 Soph start....total of 13 Fr/Soph in 2 deep)....D starts 3 Soph...with 7 Fr/Soph in 2 deep.....but only 4 Fr in 2 deep....and 3 are redshirts....(so 1 true Fr....vs 14 for Texas)
3) If you watched the OU / Fla St game you saw a different Sooner D than we've seen in awhile....that is one that will knock your freakin' head off (loved it myself....that's how you tackle ....helmet to helmet....) ....big time letdown vs Missouri understandable IMO...nice tune-up HOME scrimmage with Ball St sets this one up perfectly....Texas off back to back ROAD revenge games...
4) sure Texas is MUCH better.....>this one should be WAY too much too soon... *of technical interest.....recall OU runs at such a fast pace....Texas will be forced to play a LOT of folks on D.....meaning no place for those TRUE freshmen to hide....the back-up > MLB...WLB...FS...SS...and CB are true Fr......(they start 2 Soph at CB..backed up by a Fr and Soph).......this compounded by......Horns rank #95 in sacks...#85 in TFL (not bringing much heat despite heavy blitzing)...Sooners O ranks #4 in sacks allowed...#13 in TFL allowed .....not good vs (what will be) the most prolific QB/WR combo in OU history....(prolly are already)
It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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this one has to be OU or nothing.... *funny how so many see Texas as the "sharp" play here......> you may be right....ol Big Game Bob might screw it up.....
1) winner almost always covers...9 of last 10 games.....with maybe a push in '09....don't have ATS stats before that...but if memory serves....trend is consistent *like Texas?...play the ML or forget it....they should win a close one or get blown out *only 3 of last 13 haven't been decided by 10+
2) wanna bet the Horns?...better check Horn depth chart before you bet....maybe the youngest team I've seen... *O > 3 Fr start....7 underclassmen (Fr/Soph) in 2 deep OL !! (start 1 Fr/2 Soph/2 Sr)...total of 15 guys in 2 deep are Fr or Soph *D > 1st thing to check is back 7 (LB/DB).....10 of the 14 in the 2 deep are Fr or Soph....(5 true Fr / 5 Soph) ..........uh-oh
* Total......31/44 in 2 deep are Fr or Soph...including 14 true Fr ...+1 rFr.......a total of 22 Fr or so play at times > unbelievable
OU?....O is young too (4 Soph start....total of 13 Fr/Soph in 2 deep)....D starts 3 Soph...with 7 Fr/Soph in 2 deep.....but only 4 Fr in 2 deep....and 3 are redshirts....(so 1 true Fr....vs 14 for Texas)
3) If you watched the OU / Fla St game you saw a different Sooner D than we've seen in awhile....that is one that will knock your freakin' head off (loved it myself....that's how you tackle ....helmet to helmet....) ....big time letdown vs Missouri understandable IMO...nice tune-up HOME scrimmage with Ball St sets this one up perfectly....Texas off back to back ROAD revenge games...
4) sure Texas is MUCH better.....>this one should be WAY too much too soon... *of technical interest.....recall OU runs at such a fast pace....Texas will be forced to play a LOT of folks on D.....meaning no place for those TRUE freshmen to hide....the back-up > MLB...WLB...FS...SS...and CB are true Fr......(they start 2 Soph at CB..backed up by a Fr and Soph).......this compounded by......Horns rank #95 in sacks...#85 in TFL (not bringing much heat despite heavy blitzing)...Sooners O ranks #4 in sacks allowed...#13 in TFL allowed .....not good vs (what will be) the most prolific QB/WR combo in OU history....(prolly are already)
What are you getting all worked up about?? First of all nobody really knew that Texas was that bad until after the Nebraska win , they wer 3-1 going into Okl last year just losing to UCLA.. Now i never said they are consistent with throwing out lines like for the same game year after year, if you have been betting sports as long as I have you see and notice alot of so called off lines..not every one of them is always what i think, but more often than not it is. I thought that this was a discussion thread, no need to get all flustered just because i voiced my opinion, now is there??? GL..
And the same goes for the so called shrt line. Im sure youve seen them and taken advantage of them, and why because over the years when youve taken that favorite with that short line youve LOST, i cant tell you how many times it happened to me when i 1st started gambling, but you live and learn and after a while you just know when to pull the trigger and when not to, you just get that feeling. I see a line and i know right away if im taking the game or not. GL..
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
What are you getting all worked up about?? First of all nobody really knew that Texas was that bad until after the Nebraska win , they wer 3-1 going into Okl last year just losing to UCLA.. Now i never said they are consistent with throwing out lines like for the same game year after year, if you have been betting sports as long as I have you see and notice alot of so called off lines..not every one of them is always what i think, but more often than not it is. I thought that this was a discussion thread, no need to get all flustered just because i voiced my opinion, now is there??? GL..
And the same goes for the so called shrt line. Im sure youve seen them and taken advantage of them, and why because over the years when youve taken that favorite with that short line youve LOST, i cant tell you how many times it happened to me when i 1st started gambling, but you live and learn and after a while you just know when to pull the trigger and when not to, you just get that feeling. I see a line and i know right away if im taking the game or not. GL..
Its not nice to be condescending.. I have every right to voice what i think, I never really was a trends/stats guy if you know what i mean?? stats and trends change EVERY game, just because a guy was good last week doesnt mean anything, i want o know if he feels good this week or is his mind on only the game,etc all this info is most likely in the local newspapers>...
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
thx bookieassassin
that is information we can use
Its not nice to be condescending.. I have every right to voice what i think, I never really was a trends/stats guy if you know what i mean?? stats and trends change EVERY game, just because a guy was good last week doesnt mean anything, i want o know if he feels good this week or is his mind on only the game,etc all this info is most likely in the local newspapers>...
And the same goes for the so called shrt line. Im sure youve seen them and taken advantage of them, and why because over the years when youve taken that favorite with that short line youve LOST, i cant tell you how many times it happened to me when i 1st started gambling, but you live and learn and after a while you just know when to pull the trigger and when not to, you just get that feeling. I see a line and i know right away if im taking the game or not. GL..
ok, so would you say last year's line of OU -3 was bait for Oklahoma bettors?
because nobody bet Texas last year, all the money was on OU - 3 on all the websites
I'm just trying to get an explanation for last year's line of - 3
people all over the forum were saying it was "too easy" and a "trap" and "Vegas doesn't give away money", yet we all collected with OU tickets while those conspiracy guys were left with losing Texas tickets
I'm not saying either side is a guarantee, I'm aware that it is NOT, nothing is a lock in this sport
I'm just trying to figure out why people think that lines are "traps" and "Vegas knows the outcome" by the number they set
if that theory doesn't apply from year to year then how can it be legit?
that is all I'm asking of anyone who thinks this is a "trap"
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
And the same goes for the so called shrt line. Im sure youve seen them and taken advantage of them, and why because over the years when youve taken that favorite with that short line youve LOST, i cant tell you how many times it happened to me when i 1st started gambling, but you live and learn and after a while you just know when to pull the trigger and when not to, you just get that feeling. I see a line and i know right away if im taking the game or not. GL..
ok, so would you say last year's line of OU -3 was bait for Oklahoma bettors?
because nobody bet Texas last year, all the money was on OU - 3 on all the websites
I'm just trying to get an explanation for last year's line of - 3
people all over the forum were saying it was "too easy" and a "trap" and "Vegas doesn't give away money", yet we all collected with OU tickets while those conspiracy guys were left with losing Texas tickets
I'm not saying either side is a guarantee, I'm aware that it is NOT, nothing is a lock in this sport
I'm just trying to figure out why people think that lines are "traps" and "Vegas knows the outcome" by the number they set
if that theory doesn't apply from year to year then how can it be legit?
that is all I'm asking of anyone who thinks this is a "trap"
ok, so would you say last year's line of OU -3 was bait for Oklahoma bettors?
because nobody bet Texas last year, all the money was on OU - 3 on all the websites
I'm just trying to get an explanation for last year's line of - 3
people all over the forum were saying it was "too easy" and a "trap" and "Vegas doesn't give away money", yet we all collected with OU tickets while those conspiracy guys were left with losing Texas tickets
I'm not saying either side is a guarantee, I'm aware that it is NOT, nothing is a lock in this sport
I'm just trying to figure out why people think that lines are "traps" and "Vegas knows the outcome" by the number they set
if that theory doesn't apply from year to year then how can it be legit?
that is all I'm asking of anyone who thinks this is a "trap"
I still dont understand why you keep going back to last years game ?? It has nothing to do with this years game.. Like I said I DONT think Vegas knows the outcome but they sure as hell have a better idea about than you or I, Now you can believe that, or at least I hope you do.. And just because the websites say a certain team is being bet more than the other doesnt really mean anything...I dont believe in TRAPS either and I never said it was. All Im saying is that line is WAY too high for this game and they want Texas $$$.. Perfect example was last week, everybody loved Nebraska because Wisky was laying 10... And I already told you that I was laying off this game, now didnt I???
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
ok, so would you say last year's line of OU -3 was bait for Oklahoma bettors?
because nobody bet Texas last year, all the money was on OU - 3 on all the websites
I'm just trying to get an explanation for last year's line of - 3
people all over the forum were saying it was "too easy" and a "trap" and "Vegas doesn't give away money", yet we all collected with OU tickets while those conspiracy guys were left with losing Texas tickets
I'm not saying either side is a guarantee, I'm aware that it is NOT, nothing is a lock in this sport
I'm just trying to figure out why people think that lines are "traps" and "Vegas knows the outcome" by the number they set
if that theory doesn't apply from year to year then how can it be legit?
that is all I'm asking of anyone who thinks this is a "trap"
I still dont understand why you keep going back to last years game ?? It has nothing to do with this years game.. Like I said I DONT think Vegas knows the outcome but they sure as hell have a better idea about than you or I, Now you can believe that, or at least I hope you do.. And just because the websites say a certain team is being bet more than the other doesnt really mean anything...I dont believe in TRAPS either and I never said it was. All Im saying is that line is WAY too high for this game and they want Texas $$$.. Perfect example was last week, everybody loved Nebraska because Wisky was laying 10... And I already told you that I was laying off this game, now didnt I???
Its not nice to be condescending.. I have every right to voice what i think, I never really was a trends/stats guy if you know what i mean?? stats and trends change EVERY game, just because a guy was good last week doesnt mean anything, i want o know if he feels good this week or is his mind on only the game,etc all this info is most likely in the local newspapers>...
of course you have every right to voice your opinion
I'm trying to figure out why you think a certain line means one team is gonna cover the spread
some people think this way but never give any facts to support their theory, I'm willing to listen if you can
I want to learn more about this sport every day and I'm no better than anyone else around here
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
Its not nice to be condescending.. I have every right to voice what i think, I never really was a trends/stats guy if you know what i mean?? stats and trends change EVERY game, just because a guy was good last week doesnt mean anything, i want o know if he feels good this week or is his mind on only the game,etc all this info is most likely in the local newspapers>...
of course you have every right to voice your opinion
I'm trying to figure out why you think a certain line means one team is gonna cover the spread
some people think this way but never give any facts to support their theory, I'm willing to listen if you can
I want to learn more about this sport every day and I'm no better than anyone else around here
I still dont understand why you keep going back to last years game ?? It has nothing to do with this years game.. Like I said I DONT think Vegas knows the outcome but they sure as hell have a better idea about than you or I, Now you can believe that, or at least I hope you do.. And just because the websites say a certain team is being bet more than the other doesnt really mean anything...I dont believe in TRAPS either and I never said it was. All Im saying is that line is WAY too high for this game and they want Texas $$$.. Perfect example was last week, everybody loved Nebraska because Wisky was laying 10... And I already told you that I was laying off this game, now didnt I???
ok, good enough
I'm certainly not bent out of shape, I was trying to figure out what makes you feel a certain way in regards to a line being set on a game
Best of luck this weekend
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
I still dont understand why you keep going back to last years game ?? It has nothing to do with this years game.. Like I said I DONT think Vegas knows the outcome but they sure as hell have a better idea about than you or I, Now you can believe that, or at least I hope you do.. And just because the websites say a certain team is being bet more than the other doesnt really mean anything...I dont believe in TRAPS either and I never said it was. All Im saying is that line is WAY too high for this game and they want Texas $$$.. Perfect example was last week, everybody loved Nebraska because Wisky was laying 10... And I already told you that I was laying off this game, now didnt I???
ok, good enough
I'm certainly not bent out of shape, I was trying to figure out what makes you feel a certain way in regards to a line being set on a game
of course you have every right to voice your opinion
I'm trying to figure out why you think a certain line means one team is gonna cover the spread
some people think this way but never give any facts to support their theory, I'm willing to listen if you can
I want to learn more about this sport every day and I'm no better than anyone else around here
OK im gonna try and explain it to you, i really never depended on stats, trends and all that garbage because i dont think it always plays out the same way from week to week. I always relied on my instincts from doing this for over 25 years, I can look at any line and basically tell you within 20 seconds if im betting the game or not and you have never bet a line with a favorite that you think is short or a line that is too much with an underdog and lost???Like you said why is this line 10, it should be 3.5...Would you be taking Texas at + 3.5 because I would definitely be on them..Do you understand now??
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
of course you have every right to voice your opinion
I'm trying to figure out why you think a certain line means one team is gonna cover the spread
some people think this way but never give any facts to support their theory, I'm willing to listen if you can
I want to learn more about this sport every day and I'm no better than anyone else around here
OK im gonna try and explain it to you, i really never depended on stats, trends and all that garbage because i dont think it always plays out the same way from week to week. I always relied on my instincts from doing this for over 25 years, I can look at any line and basically tell you within 20 seconds if im betting the game or not and you have never bet a line with a favorite that you think is short or a line that is too much with an underdog and lost???Like you said why is this line 10, it should be 3.5...Would you be taking Texas at + 3.5 because I would definitely be on them..Do you understand now??
OK im gonna try and explain it to you, i really never depended on stats, trends and all that garbage because i dont think it always plays out the same way from week to week. I always relied on my instincts from doing this for over 25 years, I can look at any line and basically tell you within 20 seconds if im betting the game or not and you have never bet a line with a favorite that you think is short or a line that is too much with an underdog and lost???Like you said why is this line 10, it should be 3.5...Would you be taking Texas at + 3.5 because I would definitely be on them..Do you understand now??
Oh and forgot to mention, read the local newspapers, all of them....
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
OK im gonna try and explain it to you, i really never depended on stats, trends and all that garbage because i dont think it always plays out the same way from week to week. I always relied on my instincts from doing this for over 25 years, I can look at any line and basically tell you within 20 seconds if im betting the game or not and you have never bet a line with a favorite that you think is short or a line that is too much with an underdog and lost???Like you said why is this line 10, it should be 3.5...Would you be taking Texas at + 3.5 because I would definitely be on them..Do you understand now??
Oh and forgot to mention, read the local newspapers, all of them....
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but its not. I HEAR ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT HOW LINESMAKERS DONT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME OF A GAME IS GONNA BE 
) ....big time letdown vs Missouri understandable IMO...nice tune-up HOME scrimmage with Ball St sets this one up perfectly....Texas off back to back ROAD revenge games...
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