this logic worked great for you last week.. who else do you like this week? i need to make some more money.
you obviously have me mistaken for someone else... if you have faded me every week this year, you would have only 1 winning week (4-3) out of 7... this past weekend, you would have lost money...
but please... feel free to check my page where i post all of my plays every week, and fade to your heart's content!
Quote Originally Posted by JaHovaWitness:
this logic worked great for you last week.. who else do you like this week? i need to make some more money.
you obviously have me mistaken for someone else... if you have faded me every week this year, you would have only 1 winning week (4-3) out of 7... this past weekend, you would have lost money...
but please... feel free to check my page where i post all of my plays every week, and fade to your heart's content!
When was the last time MSU crumbled in the 2nd half of the season? Dantonio's 1st year?
msu has won 9 or more games 2 of the last 3 years
and you say that to say what? Regardless of them winning 9 games the past 2 or 3 years. They are not winning Saturday and thats what I stated in my post. Im not using anymore brain cells trying to dissect a game that needs no dissecting. Carry on with this discussion...but I want no parts of it.
Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:
When was the last time MSU crumbled in the 2nd half of the season? Dantonio's 1st year?
msu has won 9 or more games 2 of the last 3 years
and you say that to say what? Regardless of them winning 9 games the past 2 or 3 years. They are not winning Saturday and thats what I stated in my post. Im not using anymore brain cells trying to dissect a game that needs no dissecting. Carry on with this discussion...but I want no parts of it.
UM had chance to tie game late in game inside MSU 10 and that's w/ a team w/ no RB and no passer. To contain UM, u just don't allow Denard to scramble outside. Wisky have two top notch RB and a mature capable passer w/ a very good WR. Yes, it's at a nite game but no way MSU will be up for it like UM so MSU may not fight back hard if Wisky get up early on them as they just played their SB. Also, Wisky is playing for point-style too so not going to let up.
UM had chance to tie game late in game inside MSU 10 and that's w/ a team w/ no RB and no passer. To contain UM, u just don't allow Denard to scramble outside. Wisky have two top notch RB and a mature capable passer w/ a very good WR. Yes, it's at a nite game but no way MSU will be up for it like UM so MSU may not fight back hard if Wisky get up early on them as they just played their SB. Also, Wisky is playing for point-style too so not going to let up.
Wisky win this by 14+. I'd be shocked if it was close. I'd be willing to put my life on wisconsin ml if there was a briefcase containing one million dollars in it for me if they won. No chance they lose this game. I was on Mich St large last week vs Michigan. They are a decent team. They are just simply outclassed vs a pissed of Wisconsin team. They are getting screwed by the BCS system and will need a lot of help from other teams just to make it to the title game if they go undefeated.
Wisky win this by 14+. I'd be shocked if it was close. I'd be willing to put my life on wisconsin ml if there was a briefcase containing one million dollars in it for me if they won. No chance they lose this game. I was on Mich St large last week vs Michigan. They are a decent team. They are just simply outclassed vs a pissed of Wisconsin team. They are getting screwed by the BCS system and will need a lot of help from other teams just to make it to the title game if they go undefeated.
You are an idiot- if you think that year in and year out that the Pac 10 is known for it's defense, then you keep believing that. So what if Oregon stopped Cal at the end of the first half. Cal sucks. See what a shitty USC team did to them. Ariz. St. put up tons of yards on Oregon. LSU drilled Oregon.Playing reserves when up by 28 points in the 4th quarter and running the ball is considered "sportsmanship"
Train- Ice4Blood- couldn't agree with ya'll more
Gcnmoo- MSU's defense has been as good as LSU's? Really? Explain how you came to that conclusion. Not even close.
MrDegenerate-
You are an idiot- if you think that year in and year out that the Pac 10 is known for it's defense, then you keep believing that. So what if Oregon stopped Cal at the end of the first half. Cal sucks. See what a shitty USC team did to them. Ariz. St. put up tons of yards on Oregon. LSU drilled Oregon.Playing reserves when up by 28 points in the 4th quarter and running the ball is considered "sportsmanship"
Train- Ice4Blood- couldn't agree with ya'll more
Gcnmoo- MSU's defense has been as good as LSU's? Really? Explain how you came to that conclusion. Not even close.
no no bro, you are misunderstanding me here, I'm saying the top teams are all covering each week and that is why I don't think it matters if the game is a "public" play or not
all the squares are winning this year was the point I was trying to make
if you bet 10 teams every single week you would be like 76% ats on the season so fading the so called "public" really doesn't help you this year
that was my point, had nothing to do with the outcome here
Wahoo you are correct when saying all the squares are winning. A bookie I know down in Costa Rica has not had a winning football week all year. He personally told me he has never seen anything like this is all of his years booking action.
Pura Vida
Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
no no bro, you are misunderstanding me here, I'm saying the top teams are all covering each week and that is why I don't think it matters if the game is a "public" play or not
all the squares are winning this year was the point I was trying to make
if you bet 10 teams every single week you would be like 76% ats on the season so fading the so called "public" really doesn't help you this year
that was my point, had nothing to do with the outcome here
Wahoo you are correct when saying all the squares are winning. A bookie I know down in Costa Rica has not had a winning football week all year. He personally told me he has never seen anything like this is all of his years booking action.
You lost me there. If you think that Michigan States D is as good as LSU's then you know nothing about college football.
Sorry there CHAMP, Mich St D is not only as good, but better than LSU's D. Mich St #2 behind Bama statisticly. So actually he know a little something about college football. Mich St + pts
Quote Originally Posted by Brinksta:
You lost me there. If you think that Michigan States D is as good as LSU's then you know nothing about college football.
Sorry there CHAMP, Mich St D is not only as good, but better than LSU's D. Mich St #2 behind Bama statisticly. So actually he know a little something about college football. Mich St + pts
Statistically yes they have better stats- those are inflated since they have played Youngstown st., Florida Atlantic, Central Michigan and a putrid Ohio St. team. N. Dame and Michigan were the only two offenses they played with a pulse. Not many people would take Michigan st.'s defense over LSU's. That is like saying Houston's offense is better than Oklahoma's. Statistically yes, but no way do you really think it is better.
Statistically yes they have better stats- those are inflated since they have played Youngstown st., Florida Atlantic, Central Michigan and a putrid Ohio St. team. N. Dame and Michigan were the only two offenses they played with a pulse. Not many people would take Michigan st.'s defense over LSU's. That is like saying Houston's offense is better than Oklahoma's. Statistically yes, but no way do you really think it is better.
Sorry there CHAMP, Mich St D is not only as good, but better than LSU's D. Mich St #2 behind Bama statisticly. So actually he know a little something about college football. Mich St + pts
At first I was .........then after letting it settle in I am
If you want to use statistics to base your impression of the best defenses...you have the right to do so. But your argument can easily be systematically broken down and shown to be flawed. All of which I wont dare waste time in doing
Quote Originally Posted by JLos:
Sorry there CHAMP, Mich St D is not only as good, but better than LSU's D. Mich St #2 behind Bama statisticly. So actually he know a little something about college football. Mich St + pts
At first I was .........then after letting it settle in I am
If you want to use statistics to base your impression of the best defenses...you have the right to do so. But your argument can easily be systematically broken down and shown to be flawed. All of which I wont dare waste time in doing
Statistically yes they have better stats- those are inflated since they have played Youngstown st., Florida Atlantic, Central Michigan and a putrid Ohio St. team. N. Dame and Michigan were the only two offenses they played with a pulse. Not many people would take Michigan st.'s defense over LSU's. That is like saying Houston's offense is better than Oklahoma's. Statistically yes, but no way do you really think it is better.
Statistically yes...STOP RIGHT THERE.....thats what I was saying...I clearly stated that...I was just defending somebody that's all. Both very good defenses PERIOD
Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:
Statistically yes they have better stats- those are inflated since they have played Youngstown st., Florida Atlantic, Central Michigan and a putrid Ohio St. team. N. Dame and Michigan were the only two offenses they played with a pulse. Not many people would take Michigan st.'s defense over LSU's. That is like saying Houston's offense is better than Oklahoma's. Statistically yes, but no way do you really think it is better.
Statistically yes...STOP RIGHT THERE.....thats what I was saying...I clearly stated that...I was just defending somebody that's all. Both very good defenses PERIOD
You are an idiot- if you think that year in and year out that the Pac 10 is known for it's defense, then you keep believing that. So what if Oregon stopped Cal at the end of the first half. Cal sucks. See what a shitty USC team did to them. Ariz. St. put up tons of yards on Oregon. LSU drilled Oregon.Playing reserves when up by 28 points in the 4th quarter and running the ball is considered "sportsmanship"
Sportsmanship? Fucking seriously? So if you were down 4 TD's, you'd rather the other team stuff the ball down your throat every single down, as to say "we're up by 28 we're up by 28 we're up by 28 and we will rub it in every time we can and let you know that we won't even let you touch the ball".
One time I was playing Madden with my cousin. He was up 10-0 at the half. On the second half, he ran the ball up the middle on every fucking play for the entire half with zero effort to put points on the board. He is not allowed in my house anymore.
Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:
MrDegenerate-
You are an idiot- if you think that year in and year out that the Pac 10 is known for it's defense, then you keep believing that. So what if Oregon stopped Cal at the end of the first half. Cal sucks. See what a shitty USC team did to them. Ariz. St. put up tons of yards on Oregon. LSU drilled Oregon.Playing reserves when up by 28 points in the 4th quarter and running the ball is considered "sportsmanship"
Sportsmanship? Fucking seriously? So if you were down 4 TD's, you'd rather the other team stuff the ball down your throat every single down, as to say "we're up by 28 we're up by 28 we're up by 28 and we will rub it in every time we can and let you know that we won't even let you touch the ball".
One time I was playing Madden with my cousin. He was up 10-0 at the half. On the second half, he ran the ball up the middle on every fucking play for the entire half with zero effort to put points on the board. He is not allowed in my house anymore.
Khenson- no need to laugh at someone because they are a homer- he sees things differently and we will just agree to disagree on the outcome of this game- honestly if i didn't have money involved i would love to see the Spartans win this game but i just don't see it happening- That is why they play the game so we will find out soon enough-
Didn't mean to hijack the thread-
Back on topic-
Khenson- no need to laugh at someone because they are a homer- he sees things differently and we will just agree to disagree on the outcome of this game- honestly if i didn't have money involved i would love to see the Spartans win this game but i just don't see it happening- That is why they play the game so we will find out soon enough-
I have zero dollars on this game right now....If the line gets to 10 I might take a roll on MSU.... just don't see value on Wisky over a TD on the road.
Somebody commented on my wind-cold statement:
Wisconsin players have faced cold and wind...but has Russell Wilson?
If Gholston is suspended it helps Badgers bettors big time... he and Worthy are the two players that can disrupt the Wisky offense... without him it becoms tougher to get to Wilson
Homer?
I have zero dollars on this game right now....If the line gets to 10 I might take a roll on MSU.... just don't see value on Wisky over a TD on the road.
Somebody commented on my wind-cold statement:
Wisconsin players have faced cold and wind...but has Russell Wilson?
If Gholston is suspended it helps Badgers bettors big time... he and Worthy are the two players that can disrupt the Wisky offense... without him it becoms tougher to get to Wilson
Sorry there CHAMP, Mich St D is not only as good, but better than LSU's D. Mich St #2 behind Bama statisticly. So actually he know a little something about college football. Mich St + pts
Holy fuck.
Quote Originally Posted by JLos:
Sorry there CHAMP, Mich St D is not only as good, but better than LSU's D. Mich St #2 behind Bama statisticly. So actually he know a little something about college football. Mich St + pts
I have zero dollars on this game right now....If the line gets to 10 I might take a roll on MSU.... just don't see value on Wisky over a TD on the road.
Somebody commented on my wind-cold statement:
Wisconsin players have faced cold and wind...but has Russell Wilson?
If Gholston is suspended it helps Badgers bettors big time... he and Worthy are the two players that can disrupt the Wisky offense... without him it becoms tougher to get to Wilson
I haven't bet it either, and I agree with Sparty444, just don't see the value in Wisky here. Wisky backers are buying their stock at an all time high, laying 7/8 in a night game at Spartan Stadium.
I understand, Russell Wilson is a stud. But he hasn't faced any adversity yet this year. He's played 5 home games and 1 neutral site (v.s. NIU) and he's sat behind a big OL and waited patiently for a WR to get open. MSU has 16 sacks in their last two games v.s. QB's that are actually more mobile than Wilson, and had those sacks v.s. pretty damn good OL's. Obviously neither of those QB's are anywhere near Wilson's throwing ability, but the bottom line is MSU has been harrassing opposing QB's.
If MSU's running game is shut down, Wisky probably covers this, but if Sparty can run the ball and play ball control, they should be able to hang around. Last year, MSU held the ball for 37 minutes despite having 3 TO's and a punt return for a TD. If MSU has the ball for 37 minutes, that doesn't even allow Wilson a whole lot of time to operate.
The decision on Gholston will weigh heavily on whether or not I end up betting this, but I won't be laying the points.
Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
Homer?
I have zero dollars on this game right now....If the line gets to 10 I might take a roll on MSU.... just don't see value on Wisky over a TD on the road.
Somebody commented on my wind-cold statement:
Wisconsin players have faced cold and wind...but has Russell Wilson?
If Gholston is suspended it helps Badgers bettors big time... he and Worthy are the two players that can disrupt the Wisky offense... without him it becoms tougher to get to Wilson
I haven't bet it either, and I agree with Sparty444, just don't see the value in Wisky here. Wisky backers are buying their stock at an all time high, laying 7/8 in a night game at Spartan Stadium.
I understand, Russell Wilson is a stud. But he hasn't faced any adversity yet this year. He's played 5 home games and 1 neutral site (v.s. NIU) and he's sat behind a big OL and waited patiently for a WR to get open. MSU has 16 sacks in their last two games v.s. QB's that are actually more mobile than Wilson, and had those sacks v.s. pretty damn good OL's. Obviously neither of those QB's are anywhere near Wilson's throwing ability, but the bottom line is MSU has been harrassing opposing QB's.
If MSU's running game is shut down, Wisky probably covers this, but if Sparty can run the ball and play ball control, they should be able to hang around. Last year, MSU held the ball for 37 minutes despite having 3 TO's and a punt return for a TD. If MSU has the ball for 37 minutes, that doesn't even allow Wilson a whole lot of time to operate.
The decision on Gholston will weigh heavily on whether or not I end up betting this, but I won't be laying the points.
Sportsmanship? Fucking seriously? So if you were down 4 TD's, you'd rather the other team stuff the ball down your throat every single down, as to say "we're up by 28 we're up by 28 we're up by 28 and we will rub it in every time we can and let you know that we won't even let you touch the ball".
One time I was playing Madden with my cousin. He was up 10-0 at the half. On the second half, he ran the ball up the middle on every fucking play for the entire half with zero effort to put points on the board. He is not allowed in my house anymore.
"Madden with my cousin." Hopefully it was last week and this isn't a long-term grudge.
The difference is inconsequential at best. Add to that Oregon put up 69 on Nevada and 56 on Missouri State, while LSU put up...wait for it...40 on Oregon.
Quote Originally Posted by MrDegenerate:
Sportsmanship? Fucking seriously? So if you were down 4 TD's, you'd rather the other team stuff the ball down your throat every single down, as to say "we're up by 28 we're up by 28 we're up by 28 and we will rub it in every time we can and let you know that we won't even let you touch the ball".
One time I was playing Madden with my cousin. He was up 10-0 at the half. On the second half, he ran the ball up the middle on every fucking play for the entire half with zero effort to put points on the board. He is not allowed in my house anymore.
"Madden with my cousin." Hopefully it was last week and this isn't a long-term grudge.
The difference is inconsequential at best. Add to that Oregon put up 69 on Nevada and 56 on Missouri State, while LSU put up...wait for it...40 on Oregon.
I haven't bet it either, and I agree with Sparty444, just don't see the value in Wisky here. Wisky backers are buying their stock at an all time high, laying 7/8 in a night game at Spartan Stadium.
I understand, Russell Wilson is a stud. But he hasn't faced any adversity yet this year. He's played 5 home games and 1 neutral site (v.s. NIU) and he's sat behind a big OL and waited patiently for a WR to get open. MSU has 16 sacks in their last two games v.s. QB's that are actually more mobile than Wilson, and had those sacks v.s. pretty damn good OL's. Obviously neither of those QB's are anywhere near Wilson's throwing ability, but the bottom line is MSU has been harrassing opposing QB's.
If MSU's running game is shut down, Wisky probably covers this, but if Sparty can run the ball and play ball control, they should be able to hang around. Last year, MSU held the ball for 37 minutes despite having 3 TO's and a punt return for a TD. If MSU has the ball for 37 minutes, that doesn't even allow Wilson a whole lot of time to operate.
The decision on Gholston will weigh heavily on whether or not I end up betting this, but I won't be laying the points.
as a badger homer, id say this is a very fair assessment of the game. with the exception of comparing wilson to robinson and braxton in terms of mobility. robinson sooo one dimensional and the true freshman hardly holds a candle on any aspect of the game. Wilson will be the difference in this one but as it climbs to 9, i wish i could have got 7, i'll either tease it or buy it down if it drops back a bit but after watching msu vs mich, u couldnt be overly impressed with anything msu did offensively and the only way to stay in a game w wisconsin right now is to outscore them cause theyre puttin up 24minimum on anyone and probably 34+ on 95% of def's out there. is msu that 5% def, i dont think it is. 34-17 is what im hoping for but i know msu will come to play. they always do. if it hits 10 no way i touch it but at 8.5, ill tease it for one and play it straight for another. gluck
Quote Originally Posted by bense197969:
I haven't bet it either, and I agree with Sparty444, just don't see the value in Wisky here. Wisky backers are buying their stock at an all time high, laying 7/8 in a night game at Spartan Stadium.
I understand, Russell Wilson is a stud. But he hasn't faced any adversity yet this year. He's played 5 home games and 1 neutral site (v.s. NIU) and he's sat behind a big OL and waited patiently for a WR to get open. MSU has 16 sacks in their last two games v.s. QB's that are actually more mobile than Wilson, and had those sacks v.s. pretty damn good OL's. Obviously neither of those QB's are anywhere near Wilson's throwing ability, but the bottom line is MSU has been harrassing opposing QB's.
If MSU's running game is shut down, Wisky probably covers this, but if Sparty can run the ball and play ball control, they should be able to hang around. Last year, MSU held the ball for 37 minutes despite having 3 TO's and a punt return for a TD. If MSU has the ball for 37 minutes, that doesn't even allow Wilson a whole lot of time to operate.
The decision on Gholston will weigh heavily on whether or not I end up betting this, but I won't be laying the points.
as a badger homer, id say this is a very fair assessment of the game. with the exception of comparing wilson to robinson and braxton in terms of mobility. robinson sooo one dimensional and the true freshman hardly holds a candle on any aspect of the game. Wilson will be the difference in this one but as it climbs to 9, i wish i could have got 7, i'll either tease it or buy it down if it drops back a bit but after watching msu vs mich, u couldnt be overly impressed with anything msu did offensively and the only way to stay in a game w wisconsin right now is to outscore them cause theyre puttin up 24minimum on anyone and probably 34+ on 95% of def's out there. is msu that 5% def, i dont think it is. 34-17 is what im hoping for but i know msu will come to play. they always do. if it hits 10 no way i touch it but at 8.5, ill tease it for one and play it straight for another. gluck
Sportsmanship? Fucking seriously? So if you were down 4 TD's, you'd rather the other team stuff the ball down your throat every single down, as to say "we're up by 28 we're up by 28 we're up by 28 and we will rub it in every time we can and let you know that we won't even let you touch the ball".
One time I was playing Madden with my cousin. He was up 10-0 at the half. On the second half, he ran the ball up the middle on every fucking play for the entire half with zero effort to put points on the board. He is not allowed in my house anymore.
Knowing someones rushing in Madden you can't stack the box and engage eight every play to stop them...??? People who don't understand the SEC don't understand football... JEEESUS
Quote Originally Posted by MrDegenerate:
Sportsmanship? Fucking seriously? So if you were down 4 TD's, you'd rather the other team stuff the ball down your throat every single down, as to say "we're up by 28 we're up by 28 we're up by 28 and we will rub it in every time we can and let you know that we won't even let you touch the ball".
One time I was playing Madden with my cousin. He was up 10-0 at the half. On the second half, he ran the ball up the middle on every fucking play for the entire half with zero effort to put points on the board. He is not allowed in my house anymore.
Knowing someones rushing in Madden you can't stack the box and engage eight every play to stop them...??? People who don't understand the SEC don't understand football... JEEESUS
who else do you like this week? i need to make some more money. 
.........then after letting it settle in I am 
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