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#51
Ryan 4 of Bama's turnovers were in the 1st game against Kent St. 2 picks each by AJ and Sims. So 4 the rest of the way. So funny how people bring in stats to help their argument.
LSU vs BAMA
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#52
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
LSU and Alabama are two of the best teams in the country at protecting the football, so I really don't think it'll come down to turnovers. If there are turnovers, I think LSU will most likely be the team committing them.
Disagree. I think this game will EXACTLY come down to turnovers. That will be the DIFFERENCE.
Both teams have thrived all season long by causing turnovers giving their offenses short fields to work with.
So if both teams are good at protecting the football as you say, then we will certainly see a field position chess match all game.
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#54
Quote Originally Posted by Dblduce5178:
Ryan 4 of Bama's turnovers were in the 1st game against Kent St. 2 picks each by AJ and Sims. So 4 the rest of the way. So funny how people bring in stats to help their argument.
Ryan 4 of Bama's turnovers were in the 1st game against Kent St. 2 picks each by AJ and Sims. So 4 the rest of the way. So funny how people bring in stats to help their argument.
And LSU had one turnover in each of their first 5 games. Have not turned the ball over since. They are +15 in Turnover Margin and Bama is +6.
I can dissect the stats as well. The fact is LSU doesn't turn the ball over and they take it away ALOT.
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#56
Quote Originally Posted by ryan8186:
Plus I think someone is banged up on the Bama Oline (not sure, but I thought I remember that...im sure the freak can let us know that).
Back-up LT Cyrus Kouandjio tore his ACL against Tennessee, and will be out for the year. Also, Back-up Jack LBer Alex Watkins broke his arm against Tennessee, and will be out for about 3 weeks. Both of these guys provide depth, so I don't think it would be fair to dismiss these injuries as insignificant just because they are not starters. I will add that there is a pretty significant drop off between Kouandjio and the guy behind him Tyler Love. It'll be interesting to see if Love sees the field in this game.
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#57
It's gonna be a slugfest. Simple as that. Two teams that are nearly identical in philosophy and level of talent. This matchup really reminds me of the Florida St & Miami battles in the early 90's. Two teams that are mirror images of each other, playing in a game that will be the epicenter of college football for the season. Those games were hard fought low-scoring, physical, brutal contests, that always were decided by whoever had the ball last. I don't expect Bama-LSU to be any different honestly.
And I'm taking the points vs whoever BOTH teams play the following week. It takes teams about two weeks to mentally and physically recover from games like what we're gonna see on Nov 5th.
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#59
Quote Originally Posted by ryan8186:
And LSU had one turnover in each of their first 5 games. Have not turned the ball over since. They are +15 in Turnover Margin and Bama is +6.
I can dissect the stats as well. The fact is LSU doesn't turn the ball over and they take it away ALOT.
For all practical purposes LSU is tied with Oklahoma State in turnover margin per game at +2.1. Alabama ranks 24th in the nation at +0.6.
Dblduce does make a somewhat valid point. 7 of Alabama's turnover's have come in glorified scrimmage games against Kent State & North Texas. The 8th was last week against Tennessee.
I will note that last season LSU won the turnover margin in Baton Rouge 2-0.
As I said previously, in my personal opinion I don't think turnovers will be a factor in the game because I'm not confident either team will turn the ball over. If there are any turnovers I suspect they will probably come from LSU because a) the game will be in Tuscaloosa, b) Alabama is the more physical team c) Alabama's defense is capable of making LSU's offense one-dimensional, thus forcing LSU's QBs into mistakes.
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#60
Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:
Disagree. I think this game will EXACTLY come down to turnovers. That will be the DIFFERENCE.
Both teams have thrived all season long by causing turnovers giving their offenses short fields to work with.
So if both teams are good at protecting the football as you say, then we will certainly see a field position chess match all game.
Disagree. I think this game will EXACTLY come down to turnovers. That will be the DIFFERENCE.
Both teams have thrived all season long by causing turnovers giving their offenses short fields to work with.
So if both teams are good at protecting the football as you say, then we will certainly see a field position chess match all game.
LSU has thrived off of the turnover a bit more than Alabama for the simple fact that they have created more. LSU ranks 14th in the nation at forcing turnovers (2.4 pg), while Alabama ranks 6th (1.6).
I agree that this will be a field position type of game.
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#61
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
LSU has thrived off of the turnover a bit more than Alabama for the simple fact that they have created more. LSU ranks 14th in the nation at forcing turnovers (2.4 pg), while Alabama ranks 6th (1.6).
I agree that this will be a field position type of game.
Meant to say Alabama ranks 68th in the nation (not 6th) at creating turnovers (1.6 pg).
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#63
Jimmy , thanks for your insight as I really can't argue with much of what you have said. Im not sure if you said it but the size of the LSU secondary is not that much of a difference then that of the BAMA secondary. Claiborne, Mathieu, Simon and reid are the starters for LSU along with taylor. Can't judge Mathieu by his size as he plays way above his size.
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#64
Quote Originally Posted by petelapot:
Jimmy , thanks for your insight as I really can't argue with much of what you have said. Im not sure if you said it but the size of the LSU secondary is not that much of a difference then that of the BAMA secondary. Claiborne, Mathieu, Simon and reid are the starters for LSU along with taylor. Can't judge Mathieu by his size as he plays way above his size.
Jimmy , thanks for your insight as I really can't argue with much of what you have said. Im not sure if you said it but the size of the LSU secondary is not that much of a difference then that of the BAMA secondary. Claiborne, Mathieu, Simon and reid are the starters for LSU along with taylor. Can't judge Mathieu by his size as he plays way above his size.
Bama's secondary averages 6' 1.5" and 205 lbs. LSU's secondary averages 5' 11" and 188 lbs.
4-3 defenses and 3-4 defenses are built differently so comparing size is not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. 4-3 defenses typically have smaller d-linemen and linebackers, but LSU is small even by 4-3 standards. The biggest disparity in size is at LBer where LSU averages 6' 1" and 218 lbs, while Alabama averages 6' 3" and 253 lbs. A better indicator would be to compare the respective front 7s to the NFL norm.
Avg NFL DL
4-3 Defense - 6-3, 291 (LSU - 6-5, 274)
3-4 Defense - 6-4, 307 (Bama - 6-3, 305)
Avg NFL LB
4-3 Defense - 6-2, 244 (LSU - 6-1, 218)
3-4 Defense - 6-2, 252 (Bama - 6-3, 253)
Avg NFL Front 7
4-3 Defense - 6-3, 271 (LSU - 6-3, 250)
3-4 Defense - 6-3, 276 (Bama - 6-3, 275)
From this we can see that the size of Alabama's front 7 pretty much mirrors what we'd expect to see in an NFL defense, while LSU would be considered small using the same NFL standard.
And while LSU is clearly a little on the small side, they make up for it in speed (and lot's of it). Alabama will attempt to counter LSU's speed by running the ball right at them.
The matchup of Alabama's offense versus LSU's defense reminds me an awful lot of the matchup between Alabama and Texas in the national championship game . . . size & power versus speed.
Should be a good one boys!!!
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#66
A great commercial !! Another thing we havent mentioned much is the punt game and field posistion. Brad Wing of LSu has done a great job of putting teams deep in there own territory and giving them bad starting field posistion. Not sure how BAMA's punter has done, but starting field posistion will be key also in this game.
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#67
Quote Originally Posted by petelapot:
A great commercial !! Another thing we havent mentioned much is the punt game and field posistion. Brad Wing of LSu has done a great job of putting teams deep in there own territory and giving them bad starting field posistion. Not sure how BAMA's punter has done, but starting field posistion will be key also in this game.
A great commercial !! Another thing we havent mentioned much is the punt game and field posistion. Brad Wing of LSu has done a great job of putting teams deep in there own territory and giving them bad starting field posistion. Not sure how BAMA's punter has done, but starting field posistion will be key also in this game.
Bama's kicking game has been suspect. Last week when the Tennessee kick returner took a knee on a kickoff, the entire student section erupted into a standing ovation. The punting has quitel improved. LSU has the edge in kicking game. The return game is probably about even.
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#69
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Hell yeah thanks for sharing this jimmy... i should be working... but i'm on covers and i know why hey hey because i got high because i got high because i got high ladadatataHillarious Afroman parody on the Honey Badger -
Because I Got High (Honey Badger Remix).
It kind of goes with my plan for a gameday sign which will read something like this "Les eats it, and the Herbal Badger smokes it." It's still a work in progress.
Clicky here. You won't be sorry. 
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#70
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
LSU and Alabama are two of the best teams in the country at protecting the football, so I really don't think it'll come down to turnovers. If there are turnovers, I think LSU will most likely be the team committing them.
This is straight up a homer comment. You said it yourself that LSU is better and creating turnovers and have no gave the ball away much. So for you to say that LSU will be the one to cough the ball up is ridiculous.
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#71
Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:
This is straight up a homer comment. You said it yourself that LSU is better and creating turnovers and have no gave the ball away much. So for you to say that LSU will be the one to cough the ball up is ridiculous.
It's called an opinion, and I just so happen to have one. Just because my car started today is no guarnatee it will start tomorrow. In the same vein, just because LSU has won the turnover margin in every game they've played thus far is no guarantee they'll win the turnover margin against Alabama.
I'm of the opinion that neither team will turn the ball over, but if there are turnovers, I believe LSU will be the team committing the turnovers. You are free to disagree with that opinion. I, however, am so confident in my opinion that I'm willing to wager a substantial amount of money that Bama will win the turnover battle in this game. If you are confident LSU will win the turnover margin, then this should be easy money for you. You name the amount.
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