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Been praying and wishing for College football , but I highly doubt it happens....At the peak there was 31k new cases per day , the numbers are surging again as there was 29k new cases yesterday ( including 23 Clemson football players ....

 

I'm not wasting my time studying CFB this summer ....

 

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Hey Bud , Good to see your post. Steele's mag won't ship until 7 / 20.

That should give us plenty of time to figure out if CFB will be played

this season.

 

Blessings , my friend

 

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I agree. It really messed the world up. Too bad it takes a full blown emergency to then react and get it under control. New York and Michigan are proof of that. Once considered totally out of control in these two states, we now watch Arizona, Texas, etc, get in the same situation. 

Stay healthy and safe Double!!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

Hey Bud , Good to see your post. Steele's mag won't ship until 7 / 20. That should give us plenty of time to figure out if CFB will be played this season.   Blessings , my friend   WG

 

Great to hear from you Brother ..

Best of health to you and yours....

 

I really hope there is a season , but I'd bet my roll its not happening.....

 

Enjoy your summer ...

 

This will be the first year without a Steele Mag

 

 
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Unfortunately, I agree DUFL...Its hard to get serious about capping, when it may not happen...UT and Clemson announcing that they had major infections on their teams has not helped the cause...If they can't start it and feel safe with that decision by October 1, 2020, then they should just call it off...If certain smaller university football programs don't survive, then so be it...With that being said, I hope you and your family are safe from this scourge...

 

 
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DUFL - do you think there will be NFL games in 2020? 

 
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In all due respect, don't reference Michigan and New York to make this political...Since you have opened that bag, ask yourself why the cases are incrementally increasing in the south and southwest, and who's rhetoric potentially facilitated that growth in cases...

Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

I agree. It really messed the world up. Too bad it takes a full blown emergency to then react and get it under control. New York and Michigan are proof of that. Once considered totally out of control in these two states, we now watch Arizona, Texas, etc, get in the same situation.  Stay healthy and safe Double!!

 
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I think NFL 100% happens , full season

 

College right now I still lean 50/50,  we are 3 months away, a LOT can happen , pros and cons...... we will find out soon !!!!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

In all due respect, don't reference Michigan and New York to make this political...Since you have opened that bag, ask yourself why the cases are incrementally increasing in the south and southwest, and who's rhetoric potentially facilitated that growth in cases... Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: I agree. It really messed the world up. Too bad it takes a full blown emergency to then react and get it under control. New York and Michigan are proof of that. Once considered totally out of control in these two states, we now watch Arizona, Texas, etc, get in the same situation.  Stay healthy and safe Double!!

Political? How is that political? That's what is happening. No politics intended here. That statement it takes a "full blown emergency to then react" applies to EVERYBODY, no matter their political affiliation. Sheesh!  

 
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If you can't see that referencing the COVID 19 in those two particular states was political, then you are obtuse and delusional...Every time you bring up the topic, I will be here to counter you...It's not too late to catch a plane to Tulsa, Oklahoma for this evening pep rally...;)  Otherwise, let's focus on capping college football, either 2020 or perhaps 2021, on this covers forum... 

 

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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: In all due respect, don't reference Michigan and New York to make this political...Since you have opened that bag, ask yourself why the cases are incrementally increasing in the south and southwest, and who's rhetoric potentially facilitated that growth in cases... Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: I agree. It really messed the world up. Too bad it takes a full blown emergency to then react and get it under control. New York and Michigan are proof of that. Once considered totally out of control in these two states, we now watch Arizona, Texas, etc, get in the same situation.  Stay healthy and safe Double!! Political? How is that political? That's what is happening. No politics intended here. That statement it takes a "full blown emergency to then react" applies to EVERYBODY, no matter their political affiliation. Sheesh!

 
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OK, for one I live in Michigan. It got bad here early as did New York. Why? Not politics, International Airports, flights from Europe brought it here first. We both closed down and got it under control. Other states did not bother, it appears, to learn from what happened here. Now they have it.  I don't care who runs the state, no politics here.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

OK, for one I live in Michigan. It got bad here early as did New York. Why? Not politics, International Airports, flights from Europe brought it here first. We both closed down and got it under control. Other states did not bother, it appears, to learn from what happened here. Now they have it.  I don't care who runs the state, no politics here.

 

The B1G is absolutely on track to play football.  The active cases currently in our state of MI is about .00094% of the population are actively infectious (able to spread the virus).  Fully in contain mode, like her or not Whitty did a great job.  On track here to not only have football, but fans in the stands as well.  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

I agree. It really messed the world up. Too bad it takes a full blown emergency to then react and get it under control. New York and Michigan are proof of that. Once considered totally out of control in these two states, we now watch Arizona, Texas, etc, get in the same situation.  Stay healthy and safe Double!!

Best of Health you Brother ...

I'm deeply concerned  here in WNY that we opened to early , and the 2nd wave is on deck ....

Unfortunately  until their is a safe reliable vaccine that this is the new normal ...

 

Best of blessing and luck ...

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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

Unfortunately, I agree DUFL...Its hard to get serious about capping, when it may not happen...UT and Clemson announcing that they had major infections on their teams has not helped the cause...If they can't start it and feel safe with that decision by October 1, 2020, then they should just call it off...If certain smaller university football programs don't survive, then so be it...With that being said, I hope you and your family are safe from this scourge...

 

Best of blessings and health to you and your family as well ....

Cant see these schools sending the kids to away games this year ...

3 years ago I NEVER would have believed this was possible ...Guess I've had my head in the sand all these years... 

 

 

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by HockeyNight11:

Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: OK, for one I live in Michigan. It got bad here early as did New York. Why? Not politics, International Airports, flights from Europe brought it here first. We both closed down and got it under control. Other states did not bother, it appears, to learn from what happened here. Now they have it.  I don't care who runs the state, no politics here.   The B1G is absolutely on track to play football.  The active cases currently in our state of MI is about .00094% of the population are actively infectious (able to spread the virus).  Fully in contain mode, like her or not Whitty did a great job.  On track here to not only have football, but fans in the stands as well.

 

That's sounds great , wish I shared your optimism  ....All it takes is a few cases here and there and everything shuts down. .

Praying they play and stay healthy , but we might have a better chance of winning the lottery ...

 

Best of luck Brorher ( and health)...

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Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8:

I think NFL 100% happens , full season   College right now I still lean 50/50,  we are 3 months away, a LOT can happen , pros and cons...... we will find out soon !!!!

 

I pray you're right Brother 

 

My current guesses are 

COLLEGE FB plays full season 0.3%

College FB plays reduced season with limited bowls 1.8%

NFL plays full season 2.2%

NFL plays reduced season + super bowl 4.9% 

 

Hope like many things I attempt to predict that I'm WAY OFF an_roll_laugh

 

 

 
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If you want my pessimism, I can play that angle too.  Of the known human coronaviruses, we don’t have a single vaccine, so why get your hopes up for one now? 

In all honesty, the simplest things we can do as responsible members of society is too much for most people.  Wear a mask, commit to it & this coronavirus outbreak is over within 2 months.  


After being hit hard right away, we have 5,951 active Covid cases in the entire state of Michigan.  A population of nearly 10,000,000.  Essentially no covid. We have testing and contact tracing measures in place to the point of I’d be very surprised if there was a “second wave” here. 

Still lots can happen between now and September, and I’m sure more big developments will come.... but I do hope you’re wrong as a fall without football sounds miserable.  

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

Quote Originally Posted by ckattar8: I think NFL 100% happens , full season   College right now I still lean 50/50,  we are 3 months away, a LOT can happen , pros and cons...... we will find out soon !!!!   I pray you're right Brother    My current guesses are  COLLEGE FB plays full season 0.3% College FB plays reduced season with limited bowls 1.8% NFL plays full season 2.2% NFL plays reduced season + super bowl 4.9%    Hope like many things I attempt to predict that I'm WAY OFF

 

I think your way off on the NFL.  NFL has a lot fewer teams and a lot more money.  I read that big schools are budgeting 1 or 2 million for testing and other medical items.  There are probably only a dozen or so colleges that can afford this, but that is nothing for an NFL team.  NFL teams can quarantine their players in 4 star hotels and test them every day.  

A school like UB is screwed either way.  If they play, they can't afford proper medical precautions.  If they don't play, they still have to pay their coaches and the scholarships.  UB will lose less money than other schools if there are no fans allowed, because not too many people buy tickets...

And I wonder if Title 9 will allow the NCAA to have a football season and not some women's sports.  If they have to have womens sports, that is another huge expense.

 

With as much money at stake, I'd say there is a 65% chance that some teams play some games, but less than 5% that all teams play all the games.

NFL, 90% some games are played, 33% all games are played.

 

The basketball teams start practise at UB on July 20.  They want the players in town on July 6 and will quarantine them for 14 days.  UB Women signed another phenomenal class.  Player of the year from the main suburb of Detroit, a international player from Sweden, and two athletic transfers.

 
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There won't be a vaccine....SARS and MERS 10 years later, there still isn't one.  They tested vaccines out for covid-19 and the media conveniently omitted that some got very ill in the trial.  The NFL has got it right by saying they expect some players to get the virus....that is real-world thinking....in Australia they are thinking of shutting football down because one player tested positive while the season is now in progress.

It is pretty obvious that the days of hiding from a virus are over, as the financial implications are too overwhelming to continue on.   Everyone will eventually be exposed to the virus eventually anyway, most will show no symptoms (and not be tested unless mandated that they have to) and some will get ill, it just postpones the inevitable by locking down.

Having football is the best thing that could possibly happen, as some of the athletes will contract the virus, and recover as we all do every year from the flu.  You want the strongest people in the population to get it, to develop antibodies that kill the virus, to recover and pass on the immunity to others.  

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by HockeyNight11:

Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: OK, for one I live in Michigan. It got bad here early as did New York. Why? Not politics, International Airports, flights from Europe brought it here first. We both closed down and got it under control. Other states did not bother, it appears, to learn from what happened here. Now they have it.  I don't care who runs the state, no politics here.   The B1G is absolutely on track to play football.  The active cases currently in our state of MI is about .00094% of the population are actively infectious (able to spread the virus).  Fully in contain mode, like her or not Whitty did a great job.  On track here to not only have football, but fans in the stands as well.

You know I have been believing the same thing, Whitty did a great job. But then I look at Wisconsin where a court ruling had abruptly ended the lockdown and they're doing OK too???? Why didn't they go bad? Wisconsin has a great data page that includes how many tests performed, negatives, positives, and deaths. https://www.wiscontext.org/what-covid-19-pandemic-looks-wisconsin-maps-and-charts

If every state posted records like Wisconsin does we could see exactly what is really going on across the country. 

Seems to me Whitmer was following Ohio step by step early on. Every time Ohio made a lockdown choice, hours later it happened here. Nothing wrong with being coordinated. Now Ohio is said to be on the rise again.??

Starting to think Indigo999 maybe right. Maybe I was wrong in post #11 to view states with increases as not paying attention and only now reacting. With so many asymptomatic cases now showing it is obvious that early on, when little testing was available, we saw every positive test as life threatening and tens of thousands of asymptomatic cases went unnoticed. The elderly and pre-existing condition folks need special treatment, isolation. And there is the one out of...what number?....of seemingly healthy individuals that get very sick. 

As far as a vaccine, I would think medical science has advanced since SARS and this virus has much more attention. Believe one will emerge. If not, anti-body blood transfusions may help.  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

Quote Originally Posted by HockeyNight11: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: OK, for one I live in Michigan. It got bad here early as did New York. Why? Not politics, International Airports, flights from Europe brought it here first. We both closed down and got it under control. Other states did not bother, it appears, to learn from what happened here. Now they have it.  I don't care who runs the state, no politics here.   The B1G is absolutely on track to play football.  The active cases currently in our state of MI is about .00094% of the population are actively infectious (able to spread the virus).  Fully in contain mode, like her or not Whitty did a great job.  On track here to not only have football, but fans in the stands as well. You know I have been believing the same thing, Whitty did a great job. But then I look at Wisconsin where a court ruling had abruptly ended the lockdown and they're doing OK too???? Why didn't they go bad? Wisconsin has a great data page that includes how many tests performed, negatives, positives, and deaths. https://www.wiscontext.org/what-covid-19-pandemic-looks-wisconsin-maps-and-charts  If every state posted records like Wisconsin does we could see exactly what is really going on across the country.  Seems to me Whitmer was following Ohio step by step early on. Every time Ohio made a lockdown choice, hours later it happened here. Nothing wrong with being coordinated. Now Ohio is said to be on the rise again.?? Starting to think Indigo999 maybe right. Maybe I was wrong in post #11 to view states with increases as not paying attention and only now reacting. With so many asymptomatic cases now showing it is obvious that early on, when little testing was available, we saw every positive test as life threatening and tens of thousands of asymptomatic cases went unnoticed. The elderly and pre-existing condition folks need special treatment, isolation. And there is the one out of...what number?....of seemingly healthy individuals that get very sick.  As far as a vaccine, I would think medical science has advanced since SARS and this virus has much more attention. Believe one will emerge. If not, anti-body blood transfusions may help.

 

 

He very well could be right.  Im no expert in this immunology stuff, but seems the Covid-19 virus should be an easier target with its spike protein being the main target.  SARS never needed a vaccine so why waste the money and resources... same with the “common cold” causing coronaviruses, so we’ll see.  

If they even come up with something that lessens the ability to effect the lungs then that’s a huge win too.  

This morning, U of Michigan announced an in residence semester this fall.  Choice for students who don’t feel comfortable to learn remotely.  100% chance that Michigan is ready to play football as scheduled.  Just depends where the other states are by August 1.  

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

I like to use this site, sort by “active cases” and it will show you where each state is.  Not 100% accurate as it has MI active cases at 12,000 whereas local health depts have it at 5,951.  But still a good gauge of what’s going on state to state.

 
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Nice site HockeyNight!!! Exactly what I was looking for.

 

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I have been back in forth on this...I have received Athlon, Lindy's and Street and Smith and did some preliminary capping work...But then I hear about the Clemson and UT Austin players, and wonder how under reported the cases of COVID 19 there must be.   My prediction - the start of the season will be delayed until October 1, 2020, with perhaps 2-3 games chopped off the schedule.   I think the rescheduled season will start for 2-3 weeks, then be cancelled.    Both will be due to flair ups around the country.   I think there will be every attempt to have a season, but then it will still be cancelled.  I don't think rescheduling it for Spring 2021 will be viable.   I believe 20+ D1 teams will be forced to drop down to D II or disband altogether.    Man, I hope I am very wrong.   People are still dying of this scourge.   The best decision needs to be made based on science, and common sense.   

 
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People keep forgetting, those positive now should be cleared in 14 days and then those players should develop anti-bodies. Practice doesn't start until late July.  Still hope.

 
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This is interesting, not sure what it means?

Pick ANY THREE RANDOM NUMBERS, add the words NEW CASES and Google it.

Like 123 New cases

321 new cases

666 new cases.

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