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    JoePa needs to step down immediately

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:16 AM ET #26

    This will have a negative impact (to say the least) on Penn State's preparation for Nebraska one thinks.
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:26 AM ET #27

     

    This is the  official position of what  the University officials told University president after they 'investigated' a reported  crime on University property.  In my  opinion,  Penn St is digraced and these  two officials should spend time  in  jail. This  looks like negligence on the  highest  order and subsequent victims of  Sandusky should  have been  protected from a  monster. 

    Curley and Schultz did tell Penn State president Graham Spanier what they had heard, but Spanier told the grand jury that Curley and Schultz had described Sandusky's actions to him as mere "horsing around in the shower."

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    This is the  official position of what  the University officials told University president after they 'investigated' a reported  crime on University property.  In my  opinion,  Penn St is digraced and these  two officials should spend time  in  jail. This  looks like negligence on the  highest  order and subsequent victims of  Sandusky should  have been  protected from a  monster. 

    Curley and Schultz did tell Penn State president Graham Spanier what they had heard, but Spanier told the grand jury that Curley and Schultz had described Sandusky's actions to him as mere "horsing around in the shower."

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:32 AM ET #28

    Guilty by association. Guess we are all going to hell.

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    Guilty by association. Guess we are all going to hell.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:35 AM ET #29

    Archdriver- i forgot to mention that. The graduate assistant is just as responsible. Him and Joe Pa should have gone to the police. It wil be interesting to hear him speak if he ever does.
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    Archdriver- i forgot to mention that. The graduate assistant is just as responsible. Him and Joe Pa should have gone to the police. It wil be interesting to hear him speak if he ever does.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:42 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Guilty by association. Guess we are all going to hell.



    We aren't talking about knowing someone who got drunk and wrote their car off.

    This is horrific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Guilty by association. Guess we are all going to hell.



    We aren't talking about knowing someone who got drunk and wrote their car off.

    This is horrific.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:47 AM ET #31

    "Jerry's very, very depressed. He's very upset. He's very distraught about the charges, the allegations," said Joe Amendola, Sandusky's attorney.

     

    I agree that the  grad  assist didnt follow the  law and he should  have  reported.  Joe pa got  woken up one  sunday afternoon from  his  nap with a tale of horrible  activity on university property and I think Joe  Pa acted appropriately. 

    the  grad assistant should  have  been  haunted by  what  he  saw and not  stopped until sandusky was arrested. pure  and  simple.,

    it  would  not  surprise me to  hear from  the  grad assist that the  university (Shultz anbd  Curley) pressured (or  encouraged ) him to not  make  such a  big deal. 

     

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    "Jerry's very, very depressed. He's very upset. He's very distraught about the charges, the allegations," said Joe Amendola, Sandusky's attorney.

     

    I agree that the  grad  assist didnt follow the  law and he should  have  reported.  Joe pa got  woken up one  sunday afternoon from  his  nap with a tale of horrible  activity on university property and I think Joe  Pa acted appropriately. 

    the  grad assistant should  have  been  haunted by  what  he  saw and not  stopped until sandusky was arrested. pure  and  simple.,

    it  would  not  surprise me to  hear from  the  grad assist that the  university (Shultz anbd  Curley) pressured (or  encouraged ) him to not  make  such a  big deal. 

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:48 AM ET #32

    Unfortunately I can't look at Joe Pa or Penn State the same way ever again.
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:49 AM ET #33

    Its best to wait until more facts come to light ... I always laugh at people who are quick to judge on limited information.

    The whole news world is focused on this situation now... we should have a clearer picture by the end of the week... every news person will be all over this case.

    These types of cases are complicated based on what people knew--when they knew it and what was done. When we get a better idea of timeline -witnesses and what was done we can then debate this more appropriately

     

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    Its best to wait until more facts come to light ... I always laugh at people who are quick to judge on limited information.

    The whole news world is focused on this situation now... we should have a clearer picture by the end of the week... every news person will be all over this case.

    These types of cases are complicated based on what people knew--when they knew it and what was done. When we get a better idea of timeline -witnesses and what was done we can then debate this more appropriately

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 11:55 AM ET #34

    From an article on ESPN:

    "Another child, known only as a boy about 11 to 13, was seen by a janitor pinned against a wall while Sandusky performed oral sex on him in fall 2000, the grand jury said. And in 2002, Kelly said, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in a team locker room shower. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said."

    Can someone explain to me how two supposedly grown men, the janitor and the grad student, do not come to the aid of these two innocent young boys? I would have personally beat the living hell out of Sandusky and then taken the boys to the proper authorities. These acts happened in 2000 and 2002. It wasn't until a mother reported the abuse of her child in 2009 that this pervert’s actions came to light. This totally sickens me, and I have never understood how grown men (especially those with children) in positions of authority -- whether it be the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts or Penn State University -- could allow this to happen.

    All of this happened after the powers that be, Athletic Director Tim Curley and Senior V.P. and treasurer Gary Schultz, were aware of an investigation in 1998 involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a young boy in the football team's showers. Conveniently, Sandusky retired in 1999, but Penn State University and its athletic department continued to allow Sandusky to use its facilities and bring young boys to the locker room where he continued to molest them.

    If these allegations are proven to be true -- which I believe they will be -- Curly, Schultz, and even President of the University Graham Spanier should be fired.  Jo Pa should just retire at the end of the year before this becomes even more damaging to his legacy.  Here are President Spanier’s remarks about the situation:

    University representatives released a statement from Spanier on Saturday calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding that Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support.

    He predicted they will be exonerated.

    "I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," Spanier said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee."

     

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    From an article on ESPN:

    "Another child, known only as a boy about 11 to 13, was seen by a janitor pinned against a wall while Sandusky performed oral sex on him in fall 2000, the grand jury said. And in 2002, Kelly said, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in a team locker room shower. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said."

    Can someone explain to me how two supposedly grown men, the janitor and the grad student, do not come to the aid of these two innocent young boys? I would have personally beat the living hell out of Sandusky and then taken the boys to the proper authorities. These acts happened in 2000 and 2002. It wasn't until a mother reported the abuse of her child in 2009 that this pervert’s actions came to light. This totally sickens me, and I have never understood how grown men (especially those with children) in positions of authority -- whether it be the Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts or Penn State University -- could allow this to happen.

    All of this happened after the powers that be, Athletic Director Tim Curley and Senior V.P. and treasurer Gary Schultz, were aware of an investigation in 1998 involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a young boy in the football team's showers. Conveniently, Sandusky retired in 1999, but Penn State University and its athletic department continued to allow Sandusky to use its facilities and bring young boys to the locker room where he continued to molest them.

    If these allegations are proven to be true -- which I believe they will be -- Curly, Schultz, and even President of the University Graham Spanier should be fired.  Jo Pa should just retire at the end of the year before this becomes even more damaging to his legacy.  Here are President Spanier’s remarks about the situation:

    University representatives released a statement from Spanier on Saturday calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding that Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support.

    He predicted they will be exonerated.

    "I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," Spanier said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee."

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:01 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Its best to wait until more facts come to light ... I always laugh at people who are quick to judge on limited information.

    The whole news world is focused on this situation now... we should have a clearer picture by the end of the week... every news person will be all over this case.

    These types of cases are complicated based on what people knew--when they knew it and what was done. When we get a better idea of timeline -witnesses and what was done we can then debate this more appropriately

     



    I understand what you are saying but technicalities aside this will inflict permanent damage to the image of Joe Pa and Penn State.
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    Its best to wait until more facts come to light ... I always laugh at people who are quick to judge on limited information.

    The whole news world is focused on this situation now... we should have a clearer picture by the end of the week... every news person will be all over this case.

    These types of cases are complicated based on what people knew--when they knew it and what was done. When we get a better idea of timeline -witnesses and what was done we can then debate this more appropriately

     



    I understand what you are saying but technicalities aside this will inflict permanent damage to the image of Joe Pa and Penn State.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:05 PM ET #36

    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.

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    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:14 PM ET #37

    Rockdog,  That might be the dumbest post in Covers history
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    Rockdog,  That might be the dumbest post in Covers history
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Rockdog,  That might be the dumbest post in Covers history

    You're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:

    Rockdog,  That might be the dumbest post in Covers history

    You're an idiot.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:16 PM ET #39

    Can someone explain to me how two supposedly grown men, the janitor and the grad student, do not come to the aid of these two innocent young boys? I would have personally beat the living hell out of Sandusky and then taken the boys to the proper authorities.

     

    I  agree 1000%  ......  bad, bad, bad  

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    Can someone explain to me how two supposedly grown men, the janitor and the grad student, do not come to the aid of these two innocent young boys? I would have personally beat the living hell out of Sandusky and then taken the boys to the proper authorities.

     

    I  agree 1000%  ......  bad, bad, bad  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:17 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockdog:

    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.


    You can't be fucking serious. Sounds to me like you should be investigated. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockdog:

    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.


    You can't be fucking serious. Sounds to me like you should be investigated. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:26 PM ET #41

    Rockdog,  Seek medical attention immediately

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    Rockdog,  Seek medical attention immediately

     
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    Rockdog, say no to drugs 


    If it comes to light that Paterno was part of the cover up and allowed Sandusky to still use all Penn St. facilities and bring children to practices after he had knowledge that Sandusky was performing oral and anal sex on children that is disgusting. Point blank. If yo don't think it tarnishes Joe Paterno's legacy and the legacy of Penn St. football and administration you are not sane in my opinion. If and I say if it is not proven yet of course but if it is proven all I remember about Joe Pa is this, sorry but its true 
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    Rockdog, say no to drugs 


    If it comes to light that Paterno was part of the cover up and allowed Sandusky to still use all Penn St. facilities and bring children to practices after he had knowledge that Sandusky was performing oral and anal sex on children that is disgusting. Point blank. If yo don't think it tarnishes Joe Paterno's legacy and the legacy of Penn St. football and administration you are not sane in my opinion. If and I say if it is not proven yet of course but if it is proven all I remember about Joe Pa is this, sorry but its true 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:35 PM ET #43

    Capitol Gains- I agree completely- how could they have not come to the boys defense- If that would have been me who saw that i would have become unglued-

    Rockdog- please leave covers or maybe the mods can ban him- Absolutely classless post- Sandowsky is a big guy- no telling what he told the kid he would do to them if they told- I can't believe you even posted that comment.

    Sparty- agreed but it looks like this is going to be one big mess. There won't be any avoiding it now.

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    Capitol Gains- I agree completely- how could they have not come to the boys defense- If that would have been me who saw that i would have become unglued-

    Rockdog- please leave covers or maybe the mods can ban him- Absolutely classless post- Sandowsky is a big guy- no telling what he told the kid he would do to them if they told- I can't believe you even posted that comment.

    Sparty- agreed but it looks like this is going to be one big mess. There won't be any avoiding it now.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:36 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockdog:

    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.

    Wow, I hope your are being facetious. If not, you are just as sick as Sandusky and are probably either gay or a child molester yourself. Do you have any children? Do you remember what it was like to be 10 or 11 years old and rebel against a person of authority-- especially, disadvantaged young boys looking for guidance, which is what Sandusky's Second Mile Organization was supposed to provide.

    I think child molester's are the lowest scum of the earth and deserve no place in society.  They should all be castrated and the most extreme offenders should be executed. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockdog:

    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.

    Wow, I hope your are being facetious. If not, you are just as sick as Sandusky and are probably either gay or a child molester yourself. Do you have any children? Do you remember what it was like to be 10 or 11 years old and rebel against a person of authority-- especially, disadvantaged young boys looking for guidance, which is what Sandusky's Second Mile Organization was supposed to provide.

    I think child molester's are the lowest scum of the earth and deserve no place in society.  They should all be castrated and the most extreme offenders should be executed. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:38 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGains:

    Wow, I hope your are being facetious. If not, you are just as sick as Sandusky and are probably either gay or a child molester yourself. Do you have any children? Do you remember what it was like to be 10 or 11 years old and rebel against a person of authority-- especially, disadvantaged young boys looking for guidance, which is what Sandusky's Second Mile Organization was supposed to provide.

    I think child molester's are the lowest scum of the earth and deserve no place in society.  They should all be castrated and the most extreme offenders should be executed. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGains:

    Wow, I hope your are being facetious. If not, you are just as sick as Sandusky and are probably either gay or a child molester yourself. Do you have any children? Do you remember what it was like to be 10 or 11 years old and rebel against a person of authority-- especially, disadvantaged young boys looking for guidance, which is what Sandusky's Second Mile Organization was supposed to provide.

    I think child molester's are the lowest scum of the earth and deserve no place in society.  They should all be castrated and the most extreme offenders should be executed. 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:45 PM ET #46

    I wonder how the old man would have felt if it had been one of his precious grandchildren that had been ruined for life by Sandusky. Guess since it was some poor kid he could help with the cover up. This is a case of trying to cover up, simple. Never works. Go sit in the press box and loom over this program a little more, pedo-hider. JoePa and all his family bullshit. fuck you fraud.
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    I wonder how the old man would have felt if it had been one of his precious grandchildren that had been ruined for life by Sandusky. Guess since it was some poor kid he could help with the cover up. This is a case of trying to cover up, simple. Never works. Go sit in the press box and loom over this program a little more, pedo-hider. JoePa and all his family bullshit. fuck you fraud.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:49 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockdog:

    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.




    Well arent you just a little bitch...

    only a real fuckface would say its the kids fault that they are being sexually molested.

    these are 10-12 year old kids, and you are saying that its their fault for fucking being molested or touched inappropriately. what a fucking chump...

    along with the abuse, these kids were probably threatened, and coaxed into not saying anything about the contact

    Rockdog: you are a fucking chump...and fuck you for what you just said...


    I hope you get fucking ass raped someday for what you just said. fucking coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockdog:

    How come nobody is blaming the little boys that Sandusky had sex with?

    The little boys could have easily resisted and say NO!!!!

    They do have brains you know and they could think for themselves such as thinking, Why are your hands rubbing on my thighs? or Why is your penis touching my butthole????

    The fact that these ltttle boys let Sandusky do it with them suggest that they enjoyed it.  They are as gulity as Sandusky.




    Well arent you just a little bitch...

    only a real fuckface would say its the kids fault that they are being sexually molested.

    these are 10-12 year old kids, and you are saying that its their fault for fucking being molested or touched inappropriately. what a fucking chump...

    along with the abuse, these kids were probably threatened, and coaxed into not saying anything about the contact

    Rockdog: you are a fucking chump...and fuck you for what you just said...


    I hope you get fucking ass raped someday for what you just said. fucking coward.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:53 PM ET #48

     

    Mods this rockdog piece of shit should be banned for life, you are a worthless piece of crap

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    Mods this rockdog piece of shit should be banned for life, you are a worthless piece of crap

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:53 PM ET #49

    I got sick reading the grand jury indictment. This shit is sickening 
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2011 - 12:55 PM ET #50

    Rockdog, I repeat say no to drugs and seek immediate medical attention. A therapist would work fine too. Good Luck 
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