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    Here we go again,,,Bama -5 is the biggest trap play this bowl season....

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 8:57 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by DaimondD:

    i dont think you have the ability to make anything clear.

    Ive tried several times in your thread to bring up points that actually matter when capping this game and you've failed to respond with anything that is even halfway relevant or coherent.  ive told you twice that texas may even be the right side.  im not on either side yet. 

    dont worry kid, ill leave ya alone and stay out of your thread from now on.  bol on your play

     

    Lol,,kid? Seriously....you have no idea. I hope you make the right play, stop wasting time capping this game cause all it does is bring "you" a full circle and back to where you start. The finish line is way to the left...come on over and join the party.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaimondD:

    i dont think you have the ability to make anything clear.

    Ive tried several times in your thread to bring up points that actually matter when capping this game and you've failed to respond with anything that is even halfway relevant or coherent.  ive told you twice that texas may even be the right side.  im not on either side yet. 

    dont worry kid, ill leave ya alone and stay out of your thread from now on.  bol on your play

     

    Lol,,kid? Seriously....you have no idea. I hope you make the right play, stop wasting time capping this game cause all it does is bring "you" a full circle and back to where you start. The finish line is way to the left...come on over and join the party.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:18 PM ET #127

    DimaondD - if you look on paper base on what Bama or UT have done this yr..all that's going to do is convince you why Bama should be the right play. UT have been wishy washy all yr., trust me when I tell you this but this game will nowhere be near 50-50 in terms of balance action. The books or Vegas know exactly who they are siding with and they are going to push you in the opposite direction. Recession and desperate times in Vegas will make them do the unthinkable.

    The reason why I like UT and UT ML has nothing to do with what you see on paper, stats, etc...cause all that is written in stone will deter you from backing UT. I hope I don't come across as an arrogant bastard but I am so convinced UT is the correct bet base on NC history and matchups from the past.

    BOL to you.

     

     

     

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    DimaondD - if you look on paper base on what Bama or UT have done this yr..all that's going to do is convince you why Bama should be the right play. UT have been wishy washy all yr., trust me when I tell you this but this game will nowhere be near 50-50 in terms of balance action. The books or Vegas know exactly who they are siding with and they are going to push you in the opposite direction. Recession and desperate times in Vegas will make them do the unthinkable.

    The reason why I like UT and UT ML has nothing to do with what you see on paper, stats, etc...cause all that is written in stone will deter you from backing UT. I hope I don't come across as an arrogant bastard but I am so convinced UT is the correct bet base on NC history and matchups from the past.

    BOL to you.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:26 PM ET #128

    you proved to me your an idiot. you just said ut have been wishy washy all year and everything you look at on paper will convince you that bama is the play.. yet your play of the century is on UT.

    but good luck

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    you proved to me your an idiot. you just said ut have been wishy washy all year and everything you look at on paper will convince you that bama is the play.. yet your play of the century is on UT.

    but good luck

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:30 PM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

    Seriously,,Bama just knocked off Florida and UT barely snucked into the Bowl with a miracle FG against who? Yeah...Nebraska.

    And Bama only giving -5?????? Less than a TD?

    Get ready fellas.......the books are loading up the bandwagon for Bama backers in this one.

    Line will more than likely bid up to -7 or so by game time,,,,similar to the Gators vs. OU last NC.

    UT is the "correct" play here...to all UT backers, of course you will wait til game day to roll your bankroll into UT cause they are going to shut down Bama's running game.

     

    Just watch.......

     

     

    Biggest play of the century for me will be on UT +pts.......

     

    Where did u expect them to open the line at? -7.5, -7 Alabama lol. Line is where it should be. You are just like most people that bet on sports you only think week to week. So you base ur "trap" pick on bama  beat florida last week and texas squeaked by Nebbie. They had to release the line at -5. With all this being said i'll be on Texas. Im going to wait till it hits 7 or 6.5 which most of the sharps are doing. If it hits 7 the money will even out to about 50/50. Texas spread and ml
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    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

    Seriously,,Bama just knocked off Florida and UT barely snucked into the Bowl with a miracle FG against who? Yeah...Nebraska.

    And Bama only giving -5?????? Less than a TD?

    Get ready fellas.......the books are loading up the bandwagon for Bama backers in this one.

    Line will more than likely bid up to -7 or so by game time,,,,similar to the Gators vs. OU last NC.

    UT is the "correct" play here...to all UT backers, of course you will wait til game day to roll your bankroll into UT cause they are going to shut down Bama's running game.

     

    Just watch.......

     

     

    Biggest play of the century for me will be on UT +pts.......

     

    Where did u expect them to open the line at? -7.5, -7 Alabama lol. Line is where it should be. You are just like most people that bet on sports you only think week to week. So you base ur "trap" pick on bama  beat florida last week and texas squeaked by Nebbie. They had to release the line at -5. With all this being said i'll be on Texas. Im going to wait till it hits 7 or 6.5 which most of the sharps are doing. If it hits 7 the money will even out to about 50/50. Texas spread and ml
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:32 PM ET #130

    DiamondD - You been mentioning the Neb. game several times in this thread and let me tell you this...I agree with you that UT left a sour taste in your mouth. They left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and it was a miracle FG in the final second that got them into the NC game. If you can't get that out of your mind than there's is nothing I can tell you to convince you that UT is the correct play. That's what I mean by saying expected the unexpected. Not many ppl around the nation expect UT to win this game. NO ONE!!!!...ppl are laughing as I am telling you this. Why??? Because base on what they have seen...it's TRUE in their eyes. UT may have not face a better team than Bama,,,but have Bama face a better QB than UT? I know one player does not make up a team but don't you agree with me that Ingram is the reason why Bama is playing in the NC game? Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players in the NC game. You stop either one and everything will stop flowing.......I don't believe Bama have an answer for Colt McCoy - yes they are big but nowhere near as fast to catch him. McCoy/Shipley are the best duel in NCAA period.

     

     

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    DiamondD - You been mentioning the Neb. game several times in this thread and let me tell you this...I agree with you that UT left a sour taste in your mouth. They left a sour taste in everyone's mouth and it was a miracle FG in the final second that got them into the NC game. If you can't get that out of your mind than there's is nothing I can tell you to convince you that UT is the correct play. That's what I mean by saying expected the unexpected. Not many ppl around the nation expect UT to win this game. NO ONE!!!!...ppl are laughing as I am telling you this. Why??? Because base on what they have seen...it's TRUE in their eyes. UT may have not face a better team than Bama,,,but have Bama face a better QB than UT? I know one player does not make up a team but don't you agree with me that Ingram is the reason why Bama is playing in the NC game? Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players in the NC game. You stop either one and everything will stop flowing.......I don't believe Bama have an answer for Colt McCoy - yes they are big but nowhere near as fast to catch him. McCoy/Shipley are the best duel in NCAA period.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:38 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    you proved to me your an idiot. you just said ut have been wishy washy all year and everything you look at on paper will convince you that bama is the play.. yet your play of the century is on UT.

    but good luck

     

    Idiot? LMAO........good one.

    If you read what I typed, you will have a clue. Stop taking what I typed and put it out of context.

    Pickwinners is your name huh? You will be Picklosers after the NC game. Please come into this thread and kiss my a$$ when UT walked away with the CROWN. In matter of fact, I hope you make the biggest wager of your life on this game. Vegas loves "pickwinners" like yourself,,you are a dime a dozen.

     

    Oh and good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    you proved to me your an idiot. you just said ut have been wishy washy all year and everything you look at on paper will convince you that bama is the play.. yet your play of the century is on UT.

    but good luck

     

    Idiot? LMAO........good one.

    If you read what I typed, you will have a clue. Stop taking what I typed and put it out of context.

    Pickwinners is your name huh? You will be Picklosers after the NC game. Please come into this thread and kiss my a$$ when UT walked away with the CROWN. In matter of fact, I hope you make the biggest wager of your life on this game. Vegas loves "pickwinners" like yourself,,you are a dime a dozen.

     

    Oh and good luck.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:40 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

     

    Idiot? LMAO........good one.

    If you read what I typed, you will have a clue. Stop taking what I typed and put it out of context.

    Pickwinners is your name huh? You will be Picklosers after the NC game. Please come into this thread and kiss my a$$ when UT walked away with the CROWN. In matter of fact, I hope you make the biggest wager of your life on this game. Vegas loves "pickwinners" like yourself,,you are a dime a dozen.

     

    Oh and good luck.

    i read everything you wrote.. i dont think you have many valid points. that being said i never said i was on bama or ut. and i did not take what you wrote out of context. anymore questions dipshit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

     

    Idiot? LMAO........good one.

    If you read what I typed, you will have a clue. Stop taking what I typed and put it out of context.

    Pickwinners is your name huh? You will be Picklosers after the NC game. Please come into this thread and kiss my a$$ when UT walked away with the CROWN. In matter of fact, I hope you make the biggest wager of your life on this game. Vegas loves "pickwinners" like yourself,,you are a dime a dozen.

     

    Oh and good luck.

    i read everything you wrote.. i dont think you have many valid points. that being said i never said i was on bama or ut. and i did not take what you wrote out of context. anymore questions dipshit?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:46 PM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    i read everything you wrote.. i dont think you have many valid points. that being said i never said i was on bama or ut. and i did not take what you wrote out of context. anymore questions dipshit?

    I don't have many valid pts? Of course not cause you are disagreeing with everything I say. I don't think you have to tell me who you like in the NC game, I already know.

    Your right, I have no valid point at all, so why are you in here? You are barking up the wrong tree. I don't have your money, Vegas does. Go take it out on them by picking a winner. Your fighting with the wrong person bud. You see,,I able to communicate without calling you names,,now, are you smart enough to do the same?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    i read everything you wrote.. i dont think you have many valid points. that being said i never said i was on bama or ut. and i did not take what you wrote out of context. anymore questions dipshit?

    I don't have many valid pts? Of course not cause you are disagreeing with everything I say. I don't think you have to tell me who you like in the NC game, I already know.

    Your right, I have no valid point at all, so why are you in here? You are barking up the wrong tree. I don't have your money, Vegas does. Go take it out on them by picking a winner. Your fighting with the wrong person bud. You see,,I able to communicate without calling you names,,now, are you smart enough to do the same?

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:54 PM ET #134

    yes i am. one vegas does not have my money. i have my money. 2 what you said to diamond d makes no sense what so ever for your reasoning to pick texas. you are the one barking up the wrong tree. i have yet to bet the game and i am not even sure if i am going to. unlike people like you i dont make national championship games and what not any different than a normal game. i dont see how you could make this your POC. and by the looks of what your saying, you either have no idea how to cap a game yourself or you are just looking for attention. picking winners is just my user name so why dont you get off the subject because it really doesnt mean much.  That being said i have picked more winners than losers this year... so go fuck yourself and if you wanna win some money maybe ask me nicely for a play or 2. scum bag
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    yes i am. one vegas does not have my money. i have my money. 2 what you said to diamond d makes no sense what so ever for your reasoning to pick texas. you are the one barking up the wrong tree. i have yet to bet the game and i am not even sure if i am going to. unlike people like you i dont make national championship games and what not any different than a normal game. i dont see how you could make this your POC. and by the looks of what your saying, you either have no idea how to cap a game yourself or you are just looking for attention. picking winners is just my user name so why dont you get off the subject because it really doesnt mean much.  That being said i have picked more winners than losers this year... so go fuck yourself and if you wanna win some money maybe ask me nicely for a play or 2. scum bag
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 10:08 PM ET #135

    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    yes i am. one vegas does not have my money. i have my money. 2 what you said to diamond d makes no sense what so ever for your reasoning to pick texas. you are the one barking up the wrong tree. i have yet to bet the game and i am not even sure if i am going to. unlike people like you i dont make national championship games and what not any different than a normal game. i dont see how you could make this your POC. and by the looks of what your saying, you either have no idea how to cap a game yourself or you are just looking for attention. picking winners is just my user name so why dont you get off the subject because it really doesnt mean much.  That being said i have picked more winners than losers this year... so go fuck yourself and if you wanna win some money maybe ask me nicely for a play or 2. scum bag

     

    Look bud, I don't want to play in mud with you. I don't think you can articulate with what I am saying. Physchology is a part of sports capping when you throw out the stats. It's way above your level. So listen.....Why don't you give me a winner and be on your way? You do have an NC pick right? Oh wait,,you are unsure if you are going to bet on this game....why not may I asked? Hopefully that doesn't offend you to the point where you will call me another name. Are you playing with scared money? I think you are if you are so unsure if you are betting on this game. You see, I've been playing with house money since the day your mom wiped the shit out of your ass so I am in a position to make this kind of bet. I hope you understand my position now and why I do what I do. BTW...it's Mr. Scumbag to you sucker.

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    yes i am. one vegas does not have my money. i have my money. 2 what you said to diamond d makes no sense what so ever for your reasoning to pick texas. you are the one barking up the wrong tree. i have yet to bet the game and i am not even sure if i am going to. unlike people like you i dont make national championship games and what not any different than a normal game. i dont see how you could make this your POC. and by the looks of what your saying, you either have no idea how to cap a game yourself or you are just looking for attention. picking winners is just my user name so why dont you get off the subject because it really doesnt mean much.  That being said i have picked more winners than losers this year... so go fuck yourself and if you wanna win some money maybe ask me nicely for a play or 2. scum bag

     

    Look bud, I don't want to play in mud with you. I don't think you can articulate with what I am saying. Physchology is a part of sports capping when you throw out the stats. It's way above your level. So listen.....Why don't you give me a winner and be on your way? You do have an NC pick right? Oh wait,,you are unsure if you are going to bet on this game....why not may I asked? Hopefully that doesn't offend you to the point where you will call me another name. Are you playing with scared money? I think you are if you are so unsure if you are betting on this game. You see, I've been playing with house money since the day your mom wiped the shit out of your ass so I am in a position to make this kind of bet. I hope you understand my position now and why I do what I do. BTW...it's Mr. Scumbag to you sucker.

     
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    BTW......I know this shit makes good reading for ppl out there. Let me add by saying this..............

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     UT +pts and ML baby!!

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    heres your fucking winner you cocksucker BAMA -5. FUCK OFF
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    heres your fucking winner you cocksucker BAMA -5. FUCK OFF
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

     Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players in the NC game. You stop either one and everything will stop flowing.......I don't believe Bama have an answer for Colt McCoy - yes they are big but nowhere near as fast to catch him. McCoy/Shipley are the best duel in NCAA period.

     



    Not gonna get in another pissing contest with ya, just pointing out something that I think is incorrect...I agree Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players on their respectable teams but there is one differance... If you stop Colt you stop Texas, that is fact.. They have no running game at all....Look at Oklahoma and Nebraska... If you stop Ingram, you have to stop Richardson also, no easy task.. Ok lets say you stop Richardson, now you have to stop McElroy... Bama has more weapons than UT does, doesn't mean Bama wins just pointing out something that I thought was incorrect.. .Also are you honestly saying in your last statement that no one on Bama's team has the speed to chase down McCoy?? I hope that is not what you think..
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     Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players in the NC game. You stop either one and everything will stop flowing.......I don't believe Bama have an answer for Colt McCoy - yes they are big but nowhere near as fast to catch him. McCoy/Shipley are the best duel in NCAA period.

     



    Not gonna get in another pissing contest with ya, just pointing out something that I think is incorrect...I agree Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players on their respectable teams but there is one differance... If you stop Colt you stop Texas, that is fact.. They have no running game at all....Look at Oklahoma and Nebraska... If you stop Ingram, you have to stop Richardson also, no easy task.. Ok lets say you stop Richardson, now you have to stop McElroy... Bama has more weapons than UT does, doesn't mean Bama wins just pointing out something that I thought was incorrect.. .Also are you honestly saying in your last statement that no one on Bama's team has the speed to chase down McCoy?? I hope that is not what you think..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

    Do you have anything positive to add regarding Bama? Other than they are an SEC team, and they played a tough schedule this yr and they beat the Gators?????

    Tell me something the entire sportsbetting world doesn't know already??????

    Must be nice sitting pretty at -5 right and feeling over-confident right? I really hope you put a boat load on this game cause you know all of that money is going into UT backer's pockets. One word of advice for you, only bet what you can afford to lose cause it's going to hurt when your team choke.

    colt mccoy had sex with tiger woods, god told me choi duc oui

     

     

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    Do you have anything positive to add regarding Bama? Other than they are an SEC team, and they played a tough schedule this yr and they beat the Gators?????

    Tell me something the entire sportsbetting world doesn't know already??????

    Must be nice sitting pretty at -5 right and feeling over-confident right? I really hope you put a boat load on this game cause you know all of that money is going into UT backer's pockets. One word of advice for you, only bet what you can afford to lose cause it's going to hurt when your team choke.

    colt mccoy had sex with tiger woods, god told me choi duc oui

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko11:



    Not gonna get in another pissing contest with ya, just pointing out something that I think is incorrect...I agree Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players on their respectable teams but there is one differance... If you stop Colt you stop Texas, that is fact.. They have no running game at all....Look at Oklahoma and Nebraska... If you stop Ingram, you have to stop Richardson also, no easy task.. Ok lets say you stop Richardson, now you have to stop McElroy... Bama has more weapons than UT does, doesn't mean Bama wins just pointing out something that I thought was incorrect.. .Also are you honestly saying in your last statement that no one on Bama's team has the speed to chase down McCoy?? I hope that is not what you think..

     

    Who the F is Richardson and who the F is McElroy?

    j/k...I think it's disrespectful to McCoy and Ingram that you somehow squeeze those 2 names between the mccoY and ingraM.

    Listen bud, I don't think there is anything I can say to make you see the UT angles. The mighty Bama got you stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    I know what Bama is capable of, they have shown me what they can do the L2 yrs and to make a final statement, they made Tebow cried......but I don't think there is any way possible can I convince you what UT is capable of. I pointed it out time and time again in this thread and yet all my infor. is invalid to "most" of you guys.

    The mighty Bama has power/speed,,,,my argument is,,,,UT have the same power/speed. Yup.....there I go again, I am talking out of my a$$.Ya see??? It doesn't matter what my argument is,,I am wrong.

    How many UT BCS bowls have you cashed? My point is, if you played every UT BCS bowls, you will be 100% correct.

    Here's is another opportunity for you to make the right decision again........so is it UT or Bama?

    Take your pick..........go ahead and prove history wrong again.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Not gonna get in another pissing contest with ya, just pointing out something that I think is incorrect...I agree Colt and Ingram are the 2 best players on their respectable teams but there is one differance... If you stop Colt you stop Texas, that is fact.. They have no running game at all....Look at Oklahoma and Nebraska... If you stop Ingram, you have to stop Richardson also, no easy task.. Ok lets say you stop Richardson, now you have to stop McElroy... Bama has more weapons than UT does, doesn't mean Bama wins just pointing out something that I thought was incorrect.. .Also are you honestly saying in your last statement that no one on Bama's team has the speed to chase down McCoy?? I hope that is not what you think..

     

    Who the F is Richardson and who the F is McElroy?

    j/k...I think it's disrespectful to McCoy and Ingram that you somehow squeeze those 2 names between the mccoY and ingraM.

    Listen bud, I don't think there is anything I can say to make you see the UT angles. The mighty Bama got you stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    I know what Bama is capable of, they have shown me what they can do the L2 yrs and to make a final statement, they made Tebow cried......but I don't think there is any way possible can I convince you what UT is capable of. I pointed it out time and time again in this thread and yet all my infor. is invalid to "most" of you guys.

    The mighty Bama has power/speed,,,,my argument is,,,,UT have the same power/speed. Yup.....there I go again, I am talking out of my a$$.Ya see??? It doesn't matter what my argument is,,I am wrong.

    How many UT BCS bowls have you cashed? My point is, if you played every UT BCS bowls, you will be 100% correct.

    Here's is another opportunity for you to make the right decision again........so is it UT or Bama?

    Take your pick..........go ahead and prove history wrong again.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    heres your fucking winner you cocksucker BAMA -5. FUCK OFF

     

    I don't think you have to tell me, told you I already know. Save yourself some face and have a little respect for yourself. I didn't even have to see your face to know what cards you are holding.

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    heres your fucking winner you cocksucker BAMA -5. FUCK OFF

     

    I don't think you have to tell me, told you I already know. Save yourself some face and have a little respect for yourself. I didn't even have to see your face to know what cards you are holding.

     
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    How many UT BCS bowls have you cashed? My point is, if you played every UT BCS bowls, you will be 100% correct.

     

    Should read BCS bowls under Mack Brown.

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    How many UT BCS bowls have you cashed? My point is, if you played every UT BCS bowls, you will be 100% correct.

     

    Should read BCS bowls under Mack Brown.

     
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    Texas doesn't have the offensive firepower! I feel since McCoy lost and Ingram won Heisman, that REALLY motivates TEXAS ala 2005, VY vs. Reggie Bush. But,Texas will really struggle to move the ball this NCG. Mack Brown was outcoached bad in BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP and the staff will have to be 180% better this game. i.e. OC Greg Davis. But you are "spot on" the initial slants and angles towards this game. To bet Texas you need to wait till the line goes to 7 to get full value. Keep up the conversation as it will only help bettors but we best keep up with BIG 12 Bowl results as they will be KEY indicators to Texas chances. TX defense is great but the offense will get stuck in mud! Remember the "Bounce factor" for both teams.
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    Texas doesn't have the offensive firepower! I feel since McCoy lost and Ingram won Heisman, that REALLY motivates TEXAS ala 2005, VY vs. Reggie Bush. But,Texas will really struggle to move the ball this NCG. Mack Brown was outcoached bad in BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP and the staff will have to be 180% better this game. i.e. OC Greg Davis. But you are "spot on" the initial slants and angles towards this game. To bet Texas you need to wait till the line goes to 7 to get full value. Keep up the conversation as it will only help bettors but we best keep up with BIG 12 Bowl results as they will be KEY indicators to Texas chances. TX defense is great but the offense will get stuck in mud! Remember the "Bounce factor" for both teams.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorsHammer:

    Believe me,I might be from TX, but I'm no homer. I took the 14 with NEBR. My first thought was the media crowning ALB. the champ and they have'nt even played the game yet. I've been betting football for 40 yrs. and I've seen it all before. TEXAS IS THE BET , win or lose.

     

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    Believe me,I might be from TX, but I'm no homer. I took the 14 with NEBR. My first thought was the media crowning ALB. the champ and they have'nt even played the game yet. I've been betting football for 40 yrs. and I've seen it all before. TEXAS IS THE BET , win or lose.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Texas doesn't have the offensive firepower! I feel since McCoy lost and Ingram won Heisman, that REALLY motivates TEXAS ala 2005, VY vs. Reggie Bush. But,Texas will really struggle to move the ball this NCG. Mack Brown was outcoached bad in BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP and the staff will have to be 180% better this game. i.e. OC Greg Davis. But you are "spot on" the initial slants and angles towards this game. To bet Texas you need to wait till the line goes to 7 to get full value. Keep up the conversation as it will only help bettors but we best keep up with BIG 12 Bowl results as they will be KEY indicators to Texas chances. TX defense is great but the offense will get stuck in mud! Remember the "Bounce factor" for both teams.

     

    I could be wrong here but the Big 12 might not do well all the way up the NC game - the mother of all bowl games.

    I would wait to see the 1st Big 12 game & if it doesn't cover, I would fade the Big 12 til the NC game. Not saying that's what going to happen but you make a valid pt.

     

     

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    Texas doesn't have the offensive firepower! I feel since McCoy lost and Ingram won Heisman, that REALLY motivates TEXAS ala 2005, VY vs. Reggie Bush. But,Texas will really struggle to move the ball this NCG. Mack Brown was outcoached bad in BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP and the staff will have to be 180% better this game. i.e. OC Greg Davis. But you are "spot on" the initial slants and angles towards this game. To bet Texas you need to wait till the line goes to 7 to get full value. Keep up the conversation as it will only help bettors but we best keep up with BIG 12 Bowl results as they will be KEY indicators to Texas chances. TX defense is great but the offense will get stuck in mud! Remember the "Bounce factor" for both teams.

     

    I could be wrong here but the Big 12 might not do well all the way up the NC game - the mother of all bowl games.

    I would wait to see the 1st Big 12 game & if it doesn't cover, I would fade the Big 12 til the NC game. Not saying that's what going to happen but you make a valid pt.

     

     

     
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    I am on Texas as well, with Alabama 's Mark Ingram winning the heisman.......lots of banquets, dinner invitations, interviews, lets put it this way full on charade. No time to practice with his team, and you guys know he pretty much is the offense. I see #2 Texas beating #1 Alabama outrite.
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    I am on Texas as well, with Alabama 's Mark Ingram winning the heisman.......lots of banquets, dinner invitations, interviews, lets put it this way full on charade. No time to practice with his team, and you guys know he pretty much is the offense. I see #2 Texas beating #1 Alabama outrite.
     
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    Thorshammer is spot on but watch BIG 12 results. It was really a down year for the conference which doesn't help the cause. It's like horseracing, class makes all the difference!
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    Texas doesn't have the offensive firepower! I feel since McCoy lost and Ingram won Heisman, that REALLY motivates TEXAS ala 2005, VY vs. Reggie Bush. But,Texas will really struggle to move the ball this NCG. Mack Brown was outcoached bad in BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP and the staff will have to be 180% better this game. i.e. OC Greg Davis. But you are "spot on" the initial slants and angles towards this game. To bet Texas you need to wait till the line goes to 7 to get full value. Keep up the conversation as it will only help bettors but we best keep up with BIG 12 Bowl results as they will be KEY indicators to Texas chances. TX defense is great but the offense will get stuck in mud! Remember the "Bounce factor" for both teams.


    Dude I really do not think it matters how the big 12 does in the bowl games leading up to the championship games. Texas is the best team from the big 12, Also with Mccoy not winning the heisman I feel he should be more relaxed and make some big plays when needed. As for Ingram.......Heisman winners rarely do have anytime to practice with their teams and with Ingram being a key player for their offense it's not gonna be good
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    Dude I really do not think it matters how the big 12 does in the bowl games leading up to the championship games. Texas is the best team from the big 12, Also with Mccoy not winning the heisman I feel he should be more relaxed and make some big plays when needed. As for Ingram.......Heisman winners rarely do have anytime to practice with their teams and with Ingram being a key player for their offense it's not gonna be good
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Thorshammer is spot on but watch BIG 12 results. It was really a down year for the conference which doesn't help the cause. It's like horseracing, class makes all the difference!

     

    UT represent the Big 12,,,the worst the Big 12 does in the early bowl games, the more ppl are going to jump on Bama in the NC game. However, I feel UT is the cream of the crops in the Big 12 and how well or bad the Big 12 perform in the early bowl games will have no end results on how UT will perform in the NC game. If ppl think otherwise, they are in for a big surprise.

    I can already see it...the Big 12 is going to stunk in the early bowl games and UT will not even get the time of day in the NC game. Please tell me I am right cause a big transaction of wire cash will exchange hands after the game....lol,,it won't be my $$$ leaving my account that's for sure.

     

     

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    Thorshammer is spot on but watch BIG 12 results. It was really a down year for the conference which doesn't help the cause. It's like horseracing, class makes all the difference!

     

    UT represent the Big 12,,,the worst the Big 12 does in the early bowl games, the more ppl are going to jump on Bama in the NC game. However, I feel UT is the cream of the crops in the Big 12 and how well or bad the Big 12 perform in the early bowl games will have no end results on how UT will perform in the NC game. If ppl think otherwise, they are in for a big surprise.

    I can already see it...the Big 12 is going to stunk in the early bowl games and UT will not even get the time of day in the NC game. Please tell me I am right cause a big transaction of wire cash will exchange hands after the game....lol,,it won't be my $$$ leaving my account that's for sure.

     

     

     
     
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    You know McCoy is pissed off about how crappy he played against NEB. It was his WORST game he played in 4 years. He will really be motivated to play great this game. He lost the Heisman that night and he almost became the biggest buffoon since Chris Webber to boot. I just remember how VY was determined to lead his team in 05' and
    Colt may be up to the challenge. I just don't think he has enough help around him. i.e. a capable offensive line or other weapons besides Shipley. But Colt will play much better for sure!
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    You know McCoy is pissed off about how crappy he played against NEB. It was his WORST game he played in 4 years. He will really be motivated to play great this game. He lost the Heisman that night and he almost became the biggest buffoon since Chris Webber to boot. I just remember how VY was determined to lead his team in 05' and
    Colt may be up to the challenge. I just don't think he has enough help around him. i.e. a capable offensive line or other weapons besides Shipley. But Colt will play much better for sure!
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