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    nostradamus12
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2009 - 6:22 PM ET #26

    bigdaddy - agree with some of those points, other than my own approach is to look at the handicapping as against the number versus game outcome, rather than against another person (even though yes book is anticipating all persons reaction to number), for example last year went large on Texas -24 and Florida -29 (immediately moved to 31 and eventually 35.5) early August for week one simply because the projected final score significantly varied from the number, the fact that Texas and Florida probably ended up as public plays several weeks later makes no difference whatsoever in the outcome on the field, although everybody has to find their own method that works for them
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    bigdaddy - agree with some of those points, other than my own approach is to look at the handicapping as against the number versus game outcome, rather than against another person (even though yes book is anticipating all persons reaction to number), for example last year went large on Texas -24 and Florida -29 (immediately moved to 31 and eventually 35.5) early August for week one simply because the projected final score significantly varied from the number, the fact that Texas and Florida probably ended up as public plays several weeks later makes no difference whatsoever in the outcome on the field, although everybody has to find their own method that works for them
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2009 - 7:54 PM ET #27

    What up Nostra.

    Looks my legacy died on this forum with Oklahoma...


    Just 'cause a man goes dark from January through August, doesn't mean he isn't out there plotting his next move...can't wait to start back.

    Peace All.

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    What up Nostra.

    Looks my legacy died on this forum with Oklahoma...


    Just 'cause a man goes dark from January through August, doesn't mean he isn't out there plotting his next move...can't wait to start back.

    Peace All.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2009 - 7:56 PM ET #28

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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2009 - 8:33 PM ET #29

    placin - good to see you back my friend , ready to make some cash again, seem to recall you had a pretty good year last time out
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    placin - good to see you back my friend , ready to make some cash again, seem to recall you had a pretty good year last time out
     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2009 - 8:39 PM ET #30

    Not me. I stink.

    Good list from the guys on it I am familiar with at Covers, especially Badlands and BigEastExpert. I also really enjoyed ManRam's college hoops plays but can't remember how he did in CFB last year. Just throwing another name out there. Good luck.
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    Not me. I stink.

    Good list from the guys on it I am familiar with at Covers, especially Badlands and BigEastExpert. I also really enjoyed ManRam's college hoops plays but can't remember how he did in CFB last year. Just throwing another name out there. Good luck.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2009 - 10:05 AM ET #31

    You could pick 60% all day long. However, if you have a failed money management scheme. The 60% is irrelavent, and will not define you as a good capper. It takes years of experience to become a good capper not the %. GL
     
     
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    You could pick 60% all day long. However, if you have a failed money management scheme. The 60% is irrelavent, and will not define you as a good capper. It takes years of experience to become a good capper not the %. GL
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2009 - 10:09 AM ET #32

    LongHornHoosier-  Trails and tribulations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:

    You could pick 60% all day long. However, if you have a failed money management scheme. The 60% is irrelavent, and will not define you as a good capper. It takes years of experience to become a good capper not the %. GL
     
     

    Not necessairily true.  If you do not change the amount of your wagers, then 60% is going to make you a huge profit.  Now if you are talking about the player that wagers from 1 to 5 units, then it can easily happen.  Some poor clown hits 4 "1 Star" games and blows his "5 Star" game.  So he is 80% and a loser overall.  I do not play that game, nor do I suggest it.  It is just like a parlay play.  Knowing many people in the business, I can tell you that books love players who always wager different amounts, because in the long run, they are going to lose one of their large wagers, get upset about it, and then try to make their money back all at once.  That is called instant loser.

    I may play more than my standard wager on a game, but this will normally happen only when a series of events have occurred.  First, I will have to be ahead of schedule.  That means not only will I have to be ahead in the game, but ahead of where I wanted to be.   Next, I will have had to cash in (even though the actual tickets are not cashed until the end of the season) on some prop wagers, especially if it is fading a team and their total wins.  I will also consider playing a bigger amount if Ihave hit a middle or two.  Other than that, I stick to the same amount.  If it is worth wagering on, bet it.  If not, pass on it.  The game is hard enough to beat.  No use complicating the formula any more than it already is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:

    You could pick 60% all day long. However, if you have a failed money management scheme. The 60% is irrelavent, and will not define you as a good capper. It takes years of experience to become a good capper not the %. GL
     
     

    Not necessairily true.  If you do not change the amount of your wagers, then 60% is going to make you a huge profit.  Now if you are talking about the player that wagers from 1 to 5 units, then it can easily happen.  Some poor clown hits 4 "1 Star" games and blows his "5 Star" game.  So he is 80% and a loser overall.  I do not play that game, nor do I suggest it.  It is just like a parlay play.  Knowing many people in the business, I can tell you that books love players who always wager different amounts, because in the long run, they are going to lose one of their large wagers, get upset about it, and then try to make their money back all at once.  That is called instant loser.

    I may play more than my standard wager on a game, but this will normally happen only when a series of events have occurred.  First, I will have to be ahead of schedule.  That means not only will I have to be ahead in the game, but ahead of where I wanted to be.   Next, I will have had to cash in (even though the actual tickets are not cashed until the end of the season) on some prop wagers, especially if it is fading a team and their total wins.  I will also consider playing a bigger amount if Ihave hit a middle or two.  Other than that, I stick to the same amount.  If it is worth wagering on, bet it.  If not, pass on it.  The game is hard enough to beat.  No use complicating the formula any more than it already is.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #34

    it's true that flat wagering 1 unit for entire year is most reliable if you believe you're going to consistently go 120-90, 70-50 or whatever most year, sometimes 2 or 3 units if success with them in the past and track record and bankroll to do so - usually end up most years with 200 one unit and 30-40 at 2 or 3 units, pretty close to flat and yet still take a shot when it's there
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    it's true that flat wagering 1 unit for entire year is most reliable if you believe you're going to consistently go 120-90, 70-50 or whatever most year, sometimes 2 or 3 units if success with them in the past and track record and bankroll to do so - usually end up most years with 200 one unit and 30-40 at 2 or 3 units, pretty close to flat and yet still take a shot when it's there
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2009 - 5:50 AM ET #36

    bigdaddy - does this include yourself - as far as including reasons behind each pick? After all, if you're believed to be the best, the others may pick up things from your analysis as well, or is that a one way street. I've included write ups in the past and some other cappers have, however if no one else does, then why be the only one at the poker table showing their hand, under your poker analogy (assuming it were true).

    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH:

    I am depending on this group having some sharp 'cappers in here.  While I believe that I am the best (anyone who does not think he/she is the best should not be gambling), I certainly realize that this is a constatnt learning process, and the more I learn, the better I will be.  I hope that people post reasons behind their choices, and not just a selection.  This is the best way to learn and profit from their successes, or your mistakes.  Remember, the object of the game is to beat the OTHER GUY, not the book.  I believe that the more I can learn about the other guy, the more success I can have playing against him.  In many ways, wagering on football is like playing poker.  All the house, or book does is take the wagers and charge a fee for the service.  Basically, you are playing either with, or against, everyone at the table, though in football, it is one hell of a big table.

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    bigdaddy - does this include yourself - as far as including reasons behind each pick? After all, if you're believed to be the best, the others may pick up things from your analysis as well, or is that a one way street. I've included write ups in the past and some other cappers have, however if no one else does, then why be the only one at the poker table showing their hand, under your poker analogy (assuming it were true).

    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH:

    I am depending on this group having some sharp 'cappers in here.  While I believe that I am the best (anyone who does not think he/she is the best should not be gambling), I certainly realize that this is a constatnt learning process, and the more I learn, the better I will be.  I hope that people post reasons behind their choices, and not just a selection.  This is the best way to learn and profit from their successes, or your mistakes.  Remember, the object of the game is to beat the OTHER GUY, not the book.  I believe that the more I can learn about the other guy, the more success I can have playing against him.  In many ways, wagering on football is like playing poker.  All the house, or book does is take the wagers and charge a fee for the service.  Basically, you are playing either with, or against, everyone at the table, though in football, it is one hell of a big table.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 10:41 PM ET #37

    Nice. I can't wait to follow this group all season..
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    Nice. I can't wait to follow this group all season..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 11:32 PM ET #39

    Placin Units had a great season last year in NCAAF
     
    And anybody that picks over 60% for an entire season..... ain't playin enough games.
     
    Player one (60% player):  60 wins -40 losses betting a dime a game 60,000 - 44000 = $16,000 profit.  (player only plays his best plays).
     
    Player two:  60-40 for top tier plays = $16,000
    55-45 for 2nd tier plays= 55,000 - 49,500 = $6,500
    Total 57.5% winners
     
    Player one gets to claim 60% winners, but player 2 makes 30% more profit....
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    Placin Units had a great season last year in NCAAF
     
    And anybody that picks over 60% for an entire season..... ain't playin enough games.
     
    Player one (60% player):  60 wins -40 losses betting a dime a game 60,000 - 44000 = $16,000 profit.  (player only plays his best plays).
     
    Player two:  60-40 for top tier plays = $16,000
    55-45 for 2nd tier plays= 55,000 - 49,500 = $6,500
    Total 57.5% winners
     
    Player one gets to claim 60% winners, but player 2 makes 30% more profit....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 12:02 AM ET #40

    Player 2 better come out ahead profit-wise if his picks are worth a shit.




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    Player 2 better come out ahead profit-wise if his picks are worth a shit.




     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 11:15 AM ET #41

    Thanks for all the hard work that goin in to this....
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    Thanks for all the hard work that goin in to this....
     
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    As someone already said, Pimpdaddy isn't allowed to post, so I would add Bad as a person to fill his spot. It def a list of people I look at and use to compair to my numbers or outcome. Nice work Man, its a great service to the forum.Cheers mate.
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    As someone already said, Pimpdaddy isn't allowed to post, so I would add Bad as a person to fill his spot. It def a list of people I look at and use to compair to my numbers or outcome. Nice work Man, its a great service to the forum.Cheers mate.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 12:28 PM ET #43

    what happened to pimpdaddy? i must have missed it?








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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 1:05 PM ET #44

    He is getting paid for his picks now dugie. He had a great run in college bball and preseason baseball.
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    He is getting paid for his picks now dugie. He had a great run in college bball and preseason baseball.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 1:12 PM ET #45

    thanks bracks

    yeah i read all his stuff ncaa bball. it was great.

    sad to see him go







    GL to all
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    thanks bracks

    yeah i read all his stuff ncaa bball. it was great.

    sad to see him go







    GL to all
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 1:33 PM ET #46

    The definition of a good capper is one who consistantly wins over a given period of time.  That time range should be a minimum of 5 years.  I look to a 10 year track record before I make any decisions.  The percentage is going to differ. I have been doing this for many a year, and average around 58-59%.  Some years are better.  Others are worse.  I rarely dip below the 53% range, and rarely climb above the 60% range.  I am rather consistant in my plays.  I do not look to make one giant killing in each year.  I look to nickel and dime my way into a nice profit.  Normally, I set a goal, and the closer I come to attaiing that goal (which is a monetary goal which equates toi about 57%), the less I wager.
     
    Being a gambler in ALL facets of gaming, I find that the general rules that I use in playing the tables, the horses, or sports wagering do not change.  I always look to start banking my winnings after I get to a certain percentage ahead of the game.
     
    John D. McDonalds wrote a book many years ago called "Strategies in Poker, Business and War."  In it, he shows how the same basic stragegies are used in all three facets of life.  One of the strategies is to gain the most profit while risking the least amount of money.  That involves a lot of study into the laws of probability, or "odds" in the case of gaming.  I have followed that strategy for over 40 years, and it has paid very nice dividens for me.
     
    So to define a good capper, the first thing the capper should have is a 10 year history of success.  That does not mean winning every year, because few people do that.  It take a tremendous amount of self discipline to do that, and few gamblers have that.  It is that lack of discipline that pays for all of those neon lights and pretty ladies who serve you drinks in the casinos of the Las Vegas Hotels.  As far as a percentage goes, realistically anything over 56% is good, and profitable.  I am quite satisfied with my 58-59% winning ratio.
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    The definition of a good capper is one who consistantly wins over a given period of time.  That time range should be a minimum of 5 years.  I look to a 10 year track record before I make any decisions.  The percentage is going to differ. I have been doing this for many a year, and average around 58-59%.  Some years are better.  Others are worse.  I rarely dip below the 53% range, and rarely climb above the 60% range.  I am rather consistant in my plays.  I do not look to make one giant killing in each year.  I look to nickel and dime my way into a nice profit.  Normally, I set a goal, and the closer I come to attaiing that goal (which is a monetary goal which equates toi about 57%), the less I wager.
     
    Being a gambler in ALL facets of gaming, I find that the general rules that I use in playing the tables, the horses, or sports wagering do not change.  I always look to start banking my winnings after I get to a certain percentage ahead of the game.
     
    John D. McDonalds wrote a book many years ago called "Strategies in Poker, Business and War."  In it, he shows how the same basic stragegies are used in all three facets of life.  One of the strategies is to gain the most profit while risking the least amount of money.  That involves a lot of study into the laws of probability, or "odds" in the case of gaming.  I have followed that strategy for over 40 years, and it has paid very nice dividens for me.
     
    So to define a good capper, the first thing the capper should have is a 10 year history of success.  That does not mean winning every year, because few people do that.  It take a tremendous amount of self discipline to do that, and few gamblers have that.  It is that lack of discipline that pays for all of those neon lights and pretty ladies who serve you drinks in the casinos of the Las Vegas Hotels.  As far as a percentage goes, realistically anything over 56% is good, and profitable.  I am quite satisfied with my 58-59% winning ratio.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 1:40 PM ET #47

    BD- With the yrs you are asking this site wasn't really open that long. Now, you have already been given the names of people I woudl vote for as best on here. I think at least you can go on people's backing and AT LEAST the names given will fully disclose all records and units for each play.
     
    We use the stuff that we have. Can't do better than that.
     
    As one diclaimer I can give, some of the people that were approached on here, were not even on here for 5yrs and are now being paid to do this thing we do.
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    BD- With the yrs you are asking this site wasn't really open that long. Now, you have already been given the names of people I woudl vote for as best on here. I think at least you can go on people's backing and AT LEAST the names given will fully disclose all records and units for each play.
     
    We use the stuff that we have. Can't do better than that.
     
    As one diclaimer I can give, some of the people that were approached on here, were not even on here for 5yrs and are now being paid to do this thing we do.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 2:02 PM ET #48

    that's too bad pimp won't be part of it... was wondering why i hadn't seen any posts from him...
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    that's too bad pimp won't be part of it... was wondering why i hadn't seen any posts from him...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 3:14 PM ET #49

    best thread on this board.
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    best thread on this board.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2009 - 4:48 PM ET #50

    OK so here are guys I have heard from or seen posting already:
     
    Bibendi
    Bigeastexpert
    DoubleUp4Life
    Ice4Blood
    Nostradamus12
    WahooS
    Whodeysb69
     
    Others I plan to include but have not heard from or seen posts.  If anyone knows these guys or can contact them it would be appreciated.
     
    Badlands
    CaptainHawaiin
    Pucku27
    Tree88
    Payne034
     
    And I will likely add a few more once I confirm if these guys are posting or not.    I hope no one will get offended if they feel they should have been included and are not.    It gets unmanageable if the list gets much bigger than 12.   But I will certainly be tracking for additions and subtractions as the season progresses and I am always open to comments or suggestions to improve things.  
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    OK so here are guys I have heard from or seen posting already:
     
    Bibendi
    Bigeastexpert
    DoubleUp4Life
    Ice4Blood
    Nostradamus12
    WahooS
    Whodeysb69
     
    Others I plan to include but have not heard from or seen posts.  If anyone knows these guys or can contact them it would be appreciated.
     
    Badlands
    CaptainHawaiin
    Pucku27
    Tree88
    Payne034
     
    And I will likely add a few more once I confirm if these guys are posting or not.    I hope no one will get offended if they feel they should have been included and are not.    It gets unmanageable if the list gets much bigger than 12.   But I will certainly be tracking for additions and subtractions as the season progresses and I am always open to comments or suggestions to improve things.  
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