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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:46 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:

    Nothing like a well timed, well orchestrated hit piece by ESPN & the bammers to try to knock the Tigers down when they are on top of the heap.



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    Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:

    Nothing like a well timed, well orchestrated hit piece by ESPN & the bammers to try to knock the Tigers down when they are on top of the heap.



     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:36 AM ET #77

    This is a sad story.  I hate when stories like this tarnish the great game of college football.  With the fall of Alabama and Florida, and the rise of Auburn and Oregon, I think this has been one of the most interesting college football seasons in some time.  The Iron Bowl was shaping up to easily be the game-of-the-year, and I have tickets to it.  I would hate for it to be ruined by some dumb shit like this.

    I usually try to limit my posts to my personal opinon and facts, but I will say that rumors of Auburn engaging in a bidding war for Cam are not new to me.  I heard of it back in August before the season started.  I had no idea back then if there was any merit to the story, just as I have no idea if there is any merit to the story now.  I will say, however, now that the MSM is running with the story, this certainly doesn't augur well for Auburn.  Personally I'd hate to see the great Alabama/Auburn rivalry ruined by this kind of violation.  It was just starting to get good again.

    As Swizzol has said, this puts Auburn in a very difficult spot.  If Auburn is found guilty of violations down the road, they would probably minimized the damage by sitting Cam from this point forward.  On the other hand, if they decide to roll the dice and play him the rest of the season under this cloud of suspicion, then any future punishment could be very harsh indeed.

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    This is a sad story.  I hate when stories like this tarnish the great game of college football.  With the fall of Alabama and Florida, and the rise of Auburn and Oregon, I think this has been one of the most interesting college football seasons in some time.  The Iron Bowl was shaping up to easily be the game-of-the-year, and I have tickets to it.  I would hate for it to be ruined by some dumb shit like this.

    I usually try to limit my posts to my personal opinon and facts, but I will say that rumors of Auburn engaging in a bidding war for Cam are not new to me.  I heard of it back in August before the season started.  I had no idea back then if there was any merit to the story, just as I have no idea if there is any merit to the story now.  I will say, however, now that the MSM is running with the story, this certainly doesn't augur well for Auburn.  Personally I'd hate to see the great Alabama/Auburn rivalry ruined by this kind of violation.  It was just starting to get good again.

    As Swizzol has said, this puts Auburn in a very difficult spot.  If Auburn is found guilty of violations down the road, they would probably minimized the damage by sitting Cam from this point forward.  On the other hand, if they decide to roll the dice and play him the rest of the season under this cloud of suspicion, then any future punishment could be very harsh indeed.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:53 AM ET #78

    I'm debating on posting the very detailed rumors I've been hearing for a while now.  If I do though, I know everyone will ignore that what I say is only a "rumor."
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    I'm debating on posting the very detailed rumors I've been hearing for a while now.  If I do though, I know everyone will ignore that what I say is only a "rumor."
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:53 AM ET #79

    Assuming it was true, do you think they would lay the smack down mid-season, or wait until at least the end of the regular season? 
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    Assuming it was true, do you think they would lay the smack down mid-season, or wait until at least the end of the regular season? 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 3:01 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:

    Thanks Cam!!!

    Auburn fans...time to lick balls!!!

      




    I don't care who you pull for, that's funny shit!!!


    I do hope he is allowed to finish the season.  Aubs need it whether they are stripped of it later or not. 

    RTR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:

    Thanks Cam!!!

    Auburn fans...time to lick balls!!!

      




    I don't care who you pull for, that's funny shit!!!


    I do hope he is allowed to finish the season.  Aubs need it whether they are stripped of it later or not. 

    RTR!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 8:21 AM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    I'm debating on posting the very detailed rumors I've been hearing for a while now.  If I do though, I know everyone will ignore that what I say is only a "rumor."


    By all means, let's hear'em.  Everybody loves a good rumor-who cares if it is true or not.

    I'm glad to know Auburn has and is willing to throw down 200K for a juco college player that had zero experience in the SEC, was a gamble at QB in the SEC, and at most would contribute for 2 years.  Imagine what a four year stud recruit coming out of high school must get offered these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    I'm debating on posting the very detailed rumors I've been hearing for a while now.  If I do though, I know everyone will ignore that what I say is only a "rumor."


    By all means, let's hear'em.  Everybody loves a good rumor-who cares if it is true or not.

    I'm glad to know Auburn has and is willing to throw down 200K for a juco college player that had zero experience in the SEC, was a gamble at QB in the SEC, and at most would contribute for 2 years.  Imagine what a four year stud recruit coming out of high school must get offered these days.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 8:51 AM ET #82

    swizzol your an idiot man....your making theses bold dumb ass statements like there have been charges and violations filed on cam newton.....this is 100% accusations and thats all it is....its another agents trying to make a big score of a great young football player..

    nothing will happen from this and if it does it wont be for years and years down the road....auburn will not be stripped of anything and cam will be playing every down the rest of the year.

    its all speculation right now....there is a long drawn out process before anything would happen, which most likely nothing will

    stop commenting swizzol your posts are terrible
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    swizzol your an idiot man....your making theses bold dumb ass statements like there have been charges and violations filed on cam newton.....this is 100% accusations and thats all it is....its another agents trying to make a big score of a great young football player..

    nothing will happen from this and if it does it wont be for years and years down the road....auburn will not be stripped of anything and cam will be playing every down the rest of the year.

    its all speculation right now....there is a long drawn out process before anything would happen, which most likely nothing will

    stop commenting swizzol your posts are terrible
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 8:57 AM ET #83

    So, when and if it is proven that these allegations were true, I wonder how many of the posters that are bashing Swizzol (calling him an idiot, an asshole and worse) will come back and man up and extend a true apology. My bet would be none

     

    I'm just saying

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    So, when and if it is proven that these allegations were true, I wonder how many of the posters that are bashing Swizzol (calling him an idiot, an asshole and worse) will come back and man up and extend a true apology. My bet would be none

     

    I'm just saying

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 9:00 AM ET #84

    By the way, people that think that this kind of shit does not go on need to have their head examined. Everything, and I mean everything, is about money. If these allegations are true and Auburn is stripped of wins, etc they will have gained tens of millions in tv revenues for the additional exposure they received due to Auburn having an outstanding year. They will have profited greatly
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    By the way, people that think that this kind of shit does not go on need to have their head examined. Everything, and I mean everything, is about money. If these allegations are true and Auburn is stripped of wins, etc they will have gained tens of millions in tv revenues for the additional exposure they received due to Auburn having an outstanding year. They will have profited greatly
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 9:05 AM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:

    The implications may cost him the Heisman.

    He's not gonna be an NFL star.  Unless he can be a tight end or running back.

    His college career may be over.



    The Heisman is a worthless, crappy award usually given to the QB or RB on the "perceived" best team at the end of the season, and it should not even exist.  They already do the smart thing by acknowledging players by position with awards like the Unitas, Davey O'Brien, Outland, Lombardi, etc. at the end of the season. 

    Now, if you want to talk about Cam Newton having problems with the NCAA, enlighten us.  But leave the Heisman Award out of it, as it is irrelevant and has NOTHING to do with the story or any story for that matter. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:

    The implications may cost him the Heisman.

    He's not gonna be an NFL star.  Unless he can be a tight end or running back.

    His college career may be over.



    The Heisman is a worthless, crappy award usually given to the QB or RB on the "perceived" best team at the end of the season, and it should not even exist.  They already do the smart thing by acknowledging players by position with awards like the Unitas, Davey O'Brien, Outland, Lombardi, etc. at the end of the season. 

    Now, if you want to talk about Cam Newton having problems with the NCAA, enlighten us.  But leave the Heisman Award out of it, as it is irrelevant and has NOTHING to do with the story or any story for that matter. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 10:17 AM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonSports:

    So, when and if it is proven that these allegations were true, I wonder how many of the posters that are bashing Swizzol (calling him an idiot, an asshole and worse) will come back and man up and extend a true apology. My bet would be none

     

    I'm just saying



    Looks to me like swizzol is a bama fan in disguise or really has an axe to grind against Auburn.  He is desperately wishing for this to turn into a scandal.

    And I will remind everyone again to go read the original article.  There is no allegation against Newton or Auburn.  The allegation is that a former MSU alum/football player claimed he represented Newton and attempted to shop him to MSU.  This alum is under investigation by the NFL for rules violations.

    The allegation is all about MSU here.

    And someone has an agenda to damage Auburn and/or Newton here, as the timing of this just reeks.  This stuff has been know since early in the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonSports:

    So, when and if it is proven that these allegations were true, I wonder how many of the posters that are bashing Swizzol (calling him an idiot, an asshole and worse) will come back and man up and extend a true apology. My bet would be none

     

    I'm just saying



    Looks to me like swizzol is a bama fan in disguise or really has an axe to grind against Auburn.  He is desperately wishing for this to turn into a scandal.

    And I will remind everyone again to go read the original article.  There is no allegation against Newton or Auburn.  The allegation is that a former MSU alum/football player claimed he represented Newton and attempted to shop him to MSU.  This alum is under investigation by the NFL for rules violations.

    The allegation is all about MSU here.

    And someone has an agenda to damage Auburn and/or Newton here, as the timing of this just reeks.  This stuff has been know since early in the year.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 11:03 AM ET #87

    This happens daily, but when youre the Heisman frontrunner it works out for very high ratings for the media. The suites love this, and at the expense of usually some 19 year old kid who got caught up in a situation that was over his head. https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20101105/SPORTS0402/11050320/1002/rss03
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    This happens daily, but when youre the Heisman frontrunner it works out for very high ratings for the media. The suites love this, and at the expense of usually some 19 year old kid who got caught up in a situation that was over his head. https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20101105/SPORTS0402/11050320/1002/rss03
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 11:31 AM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    This is a sad story.  I hate when stories like this tarnish the great game of college football.  With the fall of Alabama and Florida, and the rise of Auburn and Oregon, I think this has been one of the most interesting college football seasons in some time.  The Iron Bowl was shaping up to easily be the game-of-the-year, and I have tickets to it.  I would hate for it to be ruined by some dumb shit like this.

    I usually try to limit my posts to my personal opinon and facts, but I will say that rumors of Auburn engaging in a bidding war for Cam are not new to me.  I heard of it back in August before the season started.  I had no idea back then if there was any merit to the story, just as I have no idea if there is any merit to the story now.  I will say, however, now that the MSM is running with the story, this certainly doesn't augur well for Auburn.  Personally I'd hate to see the great Alabama/Auburn rivalry ruined by this kind of violation.  It was just starting to get good again.

    As Swizzol has said, this puts Auburn in a very difficult spot.  If Auburn is found guilty of violations down the road, they would probably minimized the damage by sitting Cam from this point forward.  On the other hand, if they decide to roll the dice and play him the rest of the season under this cloud of suspicion, then any future punishment could be very harsh indeed.

    From the SI story quoted:

    SEC and Auburn have apparently known of the allegations since at least July, yet Newton has not missed a down. In most cases, if a player's eligibility is even remotely in question, a school sits him until the matter is resolved (as North Carolina did with several players earlier this season.) Either Auburn did its due diligence and feels confident Newton's family did no wrong, or it's taking an incredibly brazen risk in suiting up a player at the center of an ongoing investigation.

     



    Read more: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/11/04/newton.investigation/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz14QDAY8LJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

    This is a sad story.  I hate when stories like this tarnish the great game of college football.  With the fall of Alabama and Florida, and the rise of Auburn and Oregon, I think this has been one of the most interesting college football seasons in some time.  The Iron Bowl was shaping up to easily be the game-of-the-year, and I have tickets to it.  I would hate for it to be ruined by some dumb shit like this.

    I usually try to limit my posts to my personal opinon and facts, but I will say that rumors of Auburn engaging in a bidding war for Cam are not new to me.  I heard of it back in August before the season started.  I had no idea back then if there was any merit to the story, just as I have no idea if there is any merit to the story now.  I will say, however, now that the MSM is running with the story, this certainly doesn't augur well for Auburn.  Personally I'd hate to see the great Alabama/Auburn rivalry ruined by this kind of violation.  It was just starting to get good again.

    As Swizzol has said, this puts Auburn in a very difficult spot.  If Auburn is found guilty of violations down the road, they would probably minimized the damage by sitting Cam from this point forward.  On the other hand, if they decide to roll the dice and play him the rest of the season under this cloud of suspicion, then any future punishment could be very harsh indeed.

    From the SI story quoted:

    SEC and Auburn have apparently known of the allegations since at least July, yet Newton has not missed a down. In most cases, if a player's eligibility is even remotely in question, a school sits him until the matter is resolved (as North Carolina did with several players earlier this season.) Either Auburn did its due diligence and feels confident Newton's family did no wrong, or it's taking an incredibly brazen risk in suiting up a player at the center of an ongoing investigation.

     



    Read more: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/11/04/newton.investigation/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz14QDAY8LJ

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:20 PM ET #89

    Seems like Urban Meyer is involved in this story, that he told Mullen to come forth to the media about the allegations.  What a poor sport Meyer is.  He should have left last year when his boy toy Tebow graduated.
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    Seems like Urban Meyer is involved in this story, that he told Mullen to come forth to the media about the allegations.  What a poor sport Meyer is.  He should have left last year when his boy toy Tebow graduated.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:24 PM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterkey14:

    Seems like Urban Meyer is involved in this story, that he told Mullen to come forth to the media about the allegations.  What a poor sport Meyer is.  He should have left last year when his boy toy Tebow graduated.


    Yea if that is true, its pretty sad. What a total failure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterkey14:

    Seems like Urban Meyer is involved in this story, that he told Mullen to come forth to the media about the allegations.  What a poor sport Meyer is.  He should have left last year when his boy toy Tebow graduated.


    Yea if that is true, its pretty sad. What a total failure
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:27 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:



    I'm not a fan of any team.  I don't like 'Bama and I don't like Auburn, unless I have cash on 'em.  I'm just telling it like it is.

    I think is sucks.  It's been a thrill watching Cam this year.  I was really looking forward to the Iron Bowl, and I'd have been rooting for Cam and Auburn in that game.  Now, I don't know.  Even if he plays and they win, the NCAA will strip the win from the team. 

    As a HUGE fan of college football, we all lose as a result of this situation.

    Yes, you can say it's an allegation...but the New York Times, AP, Washington Post, Sports Illustrated...and everyone else is running with the story.  It does not look good.

    When was the last time all MAJOR media outlets ran with a story like this and it turned out being false???  It does not look good.


    If it turns out true then I will be the first to apologize. But don't see it being true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swizzol:



    I'm not a fan of any team.  I don't like 'Bama and I don't like Auburn, unless I have cash on 'em.  I'm just telling it like it is.

    I think is sucks.  It's been a thrill watching Cam this year.  I was really looking forward to the Iron Bowl, and I'd have been rooting for Cam and Auburn in that game.  Now, I don't know.  Even if he plays and they win, the NCAA will strip the win from the team. 

    As a HUGE fan of college football, we all lose as a result of this situation.

    Yes, you can say it's an allegation...but the New York Times, AP, Washington Post, Sports Illustrated...and everyone else is running with the story.  It does not look good.

    When was the last time all MAJOR media outlets ran with a story like this and it turned out being false???  It does not look good.


    If it turns out true then I will be the first to apologize. But don't see it being true.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:32 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:



    By all means, let's hear'em.  Everybody loves a good rumor-who cares if it is true or not.

    I'm glad to know Auburn has and is willing to throw down 200K for a juco college player that had zero experience in the SEC, was a gamble at QB in the SEC, and at most would contribute for 2 years.  Imagine what a four year stud recruit coming out of high school must get offered these days.

    As I said in my first post, I hate this kind of BS in college football, regardless of what team it is.  This is shaping up to be an epic Iron Bowl, the first in many, many years.  As a Bama fan (and most Bama fans I know feel the same way), I would love nothing more than for a 1-loss Alabama team to beat an undefeated Auburn team for the right to play in Atlanta the following week.  That's as good as it gets in college football.

    The problem is that there is this thing called reality, and reality is that Auburn is being investigated by the NCAA on the recruitment of Cam Newton and, contrary to what some have said in this thread, this investigation has absolutely nothing to do with Mississippi State.  This is all about Auburn, Cam Newton, Cam Newton's father Cecil, Kenny Rogers, Trooper Taylor and some other Louisiana kids.  That is not rumor, that is fact.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:



    By all means, let's hear'em.  Everybody loves a good rumor-who cares if it is true or not.

    I'm glad to know Auburn has and is willing to throw down 200K for a juco college player that had zero experience in the SEC, was a gamble at QB in the SEC, and at most would contribute for 2 years.  Imagine what a four year stud recruit coming out of high school must get offered these days.

    As I said in my first post, I hate this kind of BS in college football, regardless of what team it is.  This is shaping up to be an epic Iron Bowl, the first in many, many years.  As a Bama fan (and most Bama fans I know feel the same way), I would love nothing more than for a 1-loss Alabama team to beat an undefeated Auburn team for the right to play in Atlanta the following week.  That's as good as it gets in college football.

    The problem is that there is this thing called reality, and reality is that Auburn is being investigated by the NCAA on the recruitment of Cam Newton and, contrary to what some have said in this thread, this investigation has absolutely nothing to do with Mississippi State.  This is all about Auburn, Cam Newton, Cam Newton's father Cecil, Kenny Rogers, Trooper Taylor and some other Louisiana kids.  That is not rumor, that is fact.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:38 PM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by zmas13:

    From the SI story quoted:

    SEC and Auburn have apparently known of the allegations since at least July, yet Newton has not missed a down. In most cases, if a player's eligibility is even remotely in question, a school sits him until the matter is resolved (as North Carolina did with several players earlier this season.) Either Auburn did its due diligence and feels confident Newton's family did no wrong, or it's taking an incredibly brazen risk in suiting up a player at the center of an ongoing investigation.

     



    Read more: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/11/04/newton.investigation/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz14QDAY8LJ

    I have read all the stories that have been printed about this in the mainstream media.  I'm well aware of all of it, and have been aware of it for a long time.  If you really want to read a story that is at the heart of the NCAA investigation, read the link below.  The part that has piqued the interest of the NCAA is the last line of this article.

    I won't post any rumors, I'll simply post a link to a story that is at the center of the NCAA investigation.  I'll let the readers come to their own conclusions.

    https://www.times-herald.com/printerFriendly/Fate-of-Temple-Avenue-church-before-Newnan-City-Council-Tuesday-1138861

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmas13:

    From the SI story quoted:

    SEC and Auburn have apparently known of the allegations since at least July, yet Newton has not missed a down. In most cases, if a player's eligibility is even remotely in question, a school sits him until the matter is resolved (as North Carolina did with several players earlier this season.) Either Auburn did its due diligence and feels confident Newton's family did no wrong, or it's taking an incredibly brazen risk in suiting up a player at the center of an ongoing investigation.

     



    Read more: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/11/04/newton.investigation/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz14QDAY8LJ

    I have read all the stories that have been printed about this in the mainstream media.  I'm well aware of all of it, and have been aware of it for a long time.  If you really want to read a story that is at the heart of the NCAA investigation, read the link below.  The part that has piqued the interest of the NCAA is the last line of this article.

    I won't post any rumors, I'll simply post a link to a story that is at the center of the NCAA investigation.  I'll let the readers come to their own conclusions.

    https://www.times-herald.com/printerFriendly/Fate-of-Temple-Avenue-church-before-Newnan-City-Council-Tuesday-1138861

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 12:41 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterkey14:

    Seems like Urban Meyer is involved in this story, that he told Mullen to come forth to the media about the allegations.  What a poor sport Meyer is.  He should have left last year when his boy toy Tebow graduated.

    I'm not an Urbam Meyer fan at all, but this is not true.  It is true that Dan Mullen and Urban Meyer are still very good friends, and talk on the phone almost everyday, but Meyer has absolutely nothing to do with the NCAA investigation whatsoever.  That I can tell you with confidence.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterkey14:

    Seems like Urban Meyer is involved in this story, that he told Mullen to come forth to the media about the allegations.  What a poor sport Meyer is.  He should have left last year when his boy toy Tebow graduated.

    I'm not an Urbam Meyer fan at all, but this is not true.  It is true that Dan Mullen and Urban Meyer are still very good friends, and talk on the phone almost everyday, but Meyer has absolutely nothing to do with the NCAA investigation whatsoever.  That I can tell you with confidence.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:13 PM ET #95

    I agree completely with jimmydafreak.

    Anyone who follows me on Covers over the years, knows I am a fan of no one.  I'm just reporting the facts.  Bo Jackson is one of my favorite CFB players of all time.  I was glued to most every Auburn game during the Terry Bowden era.  I've been thrilled to watch Newton this year.

    Some people in this thread seem very confused about the allegations...

    This is a simple case.  If Newton, his Father or an agent acting for Newton solicited payment from schools in any way, Newton is a done deal. 

    Auburn will be punished simply because they played a player that violated NCAA rules. 

    It's not about the Miss St. or the Auburn program...it's about the actions of Newton's representatives.  Auburn will simply get the shit end of the stick if even a part of this is true.

    As far as this being true, when was the last time you heard of allegations like this not being true???  When was the last time the NCAA came out and said, "Oh, sorry boys...we were wrong, nothing happened"???

    This saddens me, but it does not look good.






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    I agree completely with jimmydafreak.

    Anyone who follows me on Covers over the years, knows I am a fan of no one.  I'm just reporting the facts.  Bo Jackson is one of my favorite CFB players of all time.  I was glued to most every Auburn game during the Terry Bowden era.  I've been thrilled to watch Newton this year.

    Some people in this thread seem very confused about the allegations...

    This is a simple case.  If Newton, his Father or an agent acting for Newton solicited payment from schools in any way, Newton is a done deal. 

    Auburn will be punished simply because they played a player that violated NCAA rules. 

    It's not about the Miss St. or the Auburn program...it's about the actions of Newton's representatives.  Auburn will simply get the shit end of the stick if even a part of this is true.

    As far as this being true, when was the last time you heard of allegations like this not being true???  When was the last time the NCAA came out and said, "Oh, sorry boys...we were wrong, nothing happened"???

    This saddens me, but it does not look good.






     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:13 PM ET #96

    Quote Originally Posted by clemezl:

    This happens daily, but when youre the Heisman frontrunner it works out for very high ratings for the media. The suites love this, and at the expense of usually some 19 year old kid who got caught up in a situation that was over his head. https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20101105/SPORTS0402/11050320/1002/rss03


    I will tell you that the problem with Cecil Newton's assertion that he wasn't close to Kenny Rogers is that photgraphic and video evidence show that Rogers accompanied Cam and Cecil on every recruiting trip.

    Cecil Newton is the Bishop of 6 churches in a 45-mile radius, and also owns a construction company that supposedly has no customers.  Those are the financial records that most interest the NCAA.  They have yet to receive them.  This is the impetus of the investigation.

    Also, keep in mind that pursuant to the US Supreme Court ruling in the NCAA v. Tarkanian (Tark the Shark), the NCAA is a private organization that is not restrained by the 5th and 14th Amendments of due process.  Membership in the private organization known as the NCAA is voluntary, and therefore the NCAA can pretty much do whatever they want.  If they want to act on rumor and speculation, they have every right to do so.  That's not to say they will, but they can.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by clemezl:

    This happens daily, but when youre the Heisman frontrunner it works out for very high ratings for the media. The suites love this, and at the expense of usually some 19 year old kid who got caught up in a situation that was over his head. https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20101105/SPORTS0402/11050320/1002/rss03


    I will tell you that the problem with Cecil Newton's assertion that he wasn't close to Kenny Rogers is that photgraphic and video evidence show that Rogers accompanied Cam and Cecil on every recruiting trip.

    Cecil Newton is the Bishop of 6 churches in a 45-mile radius, and also owns a construction company that supposedly has no customers.  Those are the financial records that most interest the NCAA.  They have yet to receive them.  This is the impetus of the investigation.

    Also, keep in mind that pursuant to the US Supreme Court ruling in the NCAA v. Tarkanian (Tark the Shark), the NCAA is a private organization that is not restrained by the 5th and 14th Amendments of due process.  Membership in the private organization known as the NCAA is voluntary, and therefore the NCAA can pretty much do whatever they want.  If they want to act on rumor and speculation, they have every right to do so.  That's not to say they will, but they can.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:21 PM ET #97

    People also have to realize the NCAA is not bound by ant rules but their own.  Newton is not accused of breaking laws, he is accused of a very serious NCAA violation.

    It's simple, if his people asked for payment in any way, it's over.  No money even had to change hands.  There doesn't even need to be a paper trail.  If the NCAA finds evidence to their satisfaction, that's all they need.
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    People also have to realize the NCAA is not bound by ant rules but their own.  Newton is not accused of breaking laws, he is accused of a very serious NCAA violation.

    It's simple, if his people asked for payment in any way, it's over.  No money even had to change hands.  There doesn't even need to be a paper trail.  If the NCAA finds evidence to their satisfaction, that's all they need.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:27 PM ET #98

    It is interesting to see the various comments regarding this situation by people on forums and the media. The only thing for certain here is that the rogue "agent" for lack of a better word asked for $180,000. Everything else is pure speculation. It will be interesting to see this play out and how many people out their that are piecing this together for us are correct, even a little bit.

    Considering the fact that Chizik has known about this well before the season started makes me think Auburn was/is not concerned or he would not have played and in fact Auburn itself is not the vocal point here at all. Auburn knew several months ago that the NCAA was investigating this yet played Newton anyway. Either Chizik is a complete moron or the reports that are changing and growing with every telling are exaggerated. It is funny how stories in the news tend to grow legs of their own in this age of 24/7 internet and TV.
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    It is interesting to see the various comments regarding this situation by people on forums and the media. The only thing for certain here is that the rogue "agent" for lack of a better word asked for $180,000. Everything else is pure speculation. It will be interesting to see this play out and how many people out their that are piecing this together for us are correct, even a little bit.

    Considering the fact that Chizik has known about this well before the season started makes me think Auburn was/is not concerned or he would not have played and in fact Auburn itself is not the vocal point here at all. Auburn knew several months ago that the NCAA was investigating this yet played Newton anyway. Either Chizik is a complete moron or the reports that are changing and growing with every telling are exaggerated. It is funny how stories in the news tend to grow legs of their own in this age of 24/7 internet and TV.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:33 PM ET #99

    I heard his Dad has disclosed all finances. But his Dad's Dad somehow bought the Colt 45 and Night Train distillery for 4.5 million. Not just yesterday he could not afford even a bottle of each at 7-11.

    Sounds a little fishy to me.

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    I heard his Dad has disclosed all finances. But his Dad's Dad somehow bought the Colt 45 and Night Train distillery for 4.5 million. Not just yesterday he could not afford even a bottle of each at 7-11.

    Sounds a little fishy to me.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2010 - 1:37 PM ET #100

    Auburn fans, it's very simple. It breaks down like this:

    If what Rogers did in relation to MSU turns out to be true...

    and

    a link is established between Rogers and Cam...

    then Cam is a dirty player. NCAA does not like players of this ilk.

    I concur with Jimmy, I HOPE it isn't true. The 2010 Iron Bowl should be one for the ages. Let's hope it stays that way.
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    Auburn fans, it's very simple. It breaks down like this:

    If what Rogers did in relation to MSU turns out to be true...

    and

    a link is established between Rogers and Cam...

    then Cam is a dirty player. NCAA does not like players of this ilk.

    I concur with Jimmy, I HOPE it isn't true. The 2010 Iron Bowl should be one for the ages. Let's hope it stays that way.
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