Bowl Thread 2010 (continued)

Quote Originally Posted by PGram13:

 Good morning Van! I noticed you have McConahay , if I spelled that right, as your avitar. I am from Longview, Tx, and went to Pine Tree, and he went to Longview HS, and was a few years younger than me. I didnt know him until he was out of college and had only played in a couple of movies, but I used to play pool and drink beer at the hangout, "The Rusty Nail", and I used to play him in pool for 100 a game. He was cocky, but kool. Although, I was pretty cocky myself. If you have seen that movie with Cruise and Paul Newman, I cant remeber the name of movie right now, but anyway Matt would spin his pool stick like Cruise did . I only remember losing one game, but it was hard to play bc the women were all around fawning over him. Anyway, that was back in 1989, so I am sure he doesnt even remember me, and he sure has made something of himself as an actor from this small town of 100k.

 I had a great day yesterday, lost 2 huge parlays by .5 on Nevada, but hit the three teamers bc I bought down to 6.5, but moving on. New day and a new dollar! I am leaning Oregon, especially 1st half, b4 Auburn adjusts at halftime, but tuff one 4 me to cap. Im just playing my average plays bc if this were just another day with plenty of games I wouldnt touch it! I was hoping you had this one picked and hoping you were thinking as I! BOL 2nite and have a great day VAN!

Quote Originally Posted by HalfAclue:

hey vanzack, 

Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:

Van I got Oregon +3 (even) for 10 units on Betus a couple weeks ago when it sat at Auburn -3 (+115) on matchbook. Betus is ridiculously horrible with dog lines. In fact, they had Seahawks +4.5 (-105) vs the Rams the last night of the regular season when they were +3.5 (-120) everywhere else. I was able to take the +4.5 (-105) with -4.5 (+130) on matchbook to lock in a quick profit. If you haven't used betus before, check them out. They don't have a great rating but I've gotten my payouts in a reasonable time frame and as you can see they are notoriously horrible/slow with dog lines.

I took 10 units on Oregon with the intent of buying some back. the -3 currently sits at +130 on matchbook so I'm currently deciding how to play this, but GL with Oregon tonight.

Quote Originally Posted by SHARKANIAN:

AUBURN -10.5 +280...GO DUCKS

Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyY83:

 M resort in vegas has oregon -1 

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I gotta check this place out.

From what I hear, they are old school take any comers type of place, with live in game wagering.

Anyone been there or has any comments?

Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyY83:

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Thanks Skipster.... 

Firebird - its funny - I dont want anyone blindly following me too.  I have gone through phases of my posting life here at covers where I post games Im betting, and phases where I dont.  I cant win.  When I post, I get bashed for any losers even if you win the previous 70%, and when I dont post people ask if I could post my games.  So I have learned the drill, I post when asked or when I feel like it, and will answer any and all questions and know that I will get bashed when I lose (just look after the WVU game, its like a free for all).

The problem I always have is that my handicapping and actual bets that go until the end of the game are only a percentage of how I make money.  I like to call it multiple income streams, or diversification.  I make money buying and selling lines, betting live lines, and arbitrage situations.  So a lot of times a bet I have on a Monday never goes to post time (today I bet the Jets +3 at -102 and sold it at -3 +125).   This is a business for me, and any business with only one client is vulnerable, you need diversification.  When my capping is bad, my line speculation might be good, or vice versa.

For instance, the playoff games this weekend.  5 years ago I bet every playoff game, but I do sense something has changed in me (probably for the worse) in that I just dont seem to have the stomach for it anymore. If I dont feel like I have a clear edge in a game, the consequences of self hatred and buyers remorse seem to grow more and more as the years go on.

Part of the reason is that the percentage of effort I put in to buying and selling positions has grown in relation to my handicapping wagers - which has shrunk. I dont know where this is going, but I can tell you that there are lots of days I feel like I have had enough and should call it a day until I can have Neteller and every book at my fingertips like the early 2000's. The cost and risk of doing business these days is so high, sometimes I just woner if it is worth it - and I keep getting squeezed on costs to the point that so much of my income goes to just keeping the business going. So if I make some dumb playoff bets - well - now you can see why I get crazy and beat myself up - there isnt much room for error anymore these days.

If I was as smart as I am today back in the early 2000's, it would have been a perfect situation - and I hope one day it will be like that again. I used to be able to transfer 50K on neteller from my bank account to any of 20 books to hit a line in less than a minute, and I used to transfer a winning wager back to my bank account in less than 5 minutes with virtually no cost or risk. Now I meet guys in parking lots with brown bags, and pay through the nose for wires or checks that might bounce, and most importantly lose out on opportunities because I have money at one book and not the right one at the right time. I wonder if I just dont have the stomach for this anymore.

The guys you mention in your post have the right idea.  They have multiple income streams too.  If they actually do bet on the games they pick, it is funded by the income they generate from writing books or selling picks.  Kind of like the poker players too - they are sponsored - and rarely pay for tournament entry fees - multiple income streams.  I have often thought about writing a book, mostly because I think it would help people, not so much that I would become a NYT best seller on the back of a sports gambling book.  Lets face it, the sports gambling world is small, then cut that in to people who want to hear how to take all of the fun out of it by treating it like a business, and you have a small slice of the public left.  Very few people doing this really want to make money, they might say they do, but the action is the big draw.

GL

Quote Originally Posted by Bluefin:

  Van this is the most I have ever heard you share about the personal side. Good read! I can relate to the difficulties with the lifestyle,but we persist. Perhaps craving the "action" becomes a little more subtle with age and experience.BOL on the Quakers.

Quote Originally Posted by SALandBOB:

M is legit, been there a few times. go ducks

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Holy shit.

I have forgotten the amount of useless threads on covers for a big event.

Threads you will see before the game tonight (all in all capital letters, with lots of punctuation):

Covers Bloodbath - Oregon
Covers Bloodbath - Auburn
If Auburn doesnt win, I will never post again
If Oregon doesnt win, I will never post again
Auburn / Oregon wins by 20+!
If you bet Auburn / Oregon, you are a moron!
Vegas wants you to bet Auburn / Oregon
Public is all over Oregon
Public is all over Auburn
Sharps are all over Auburn / Oregon
Line move means bet on Auburn / Oregon
Biggest play of the year on Auburn / Oregon
Im all in on Auburn / Oregon
No need to overanalyze, Auburn / Oregon is the way to go
Why isnt Auburn / Oregon favored by more?
Dont be a sucker, bet Auburn / Oregon
LOCK LOCK LOCK

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Holy shit.

I have forgotten the amount of useless threads on covers for a big event.

Threads you will see before the game tonight (all in all capital letters, with lots of punctuation):

Covers Bloodbath - Oregon
Covers Bloodbath - Auburn
If Auburn doesnt win, I will never post again
If Oregon doesnt win, I will never post again
Auburn / Oregon wins by 20+!
If you bet Auburn / Oregon, you are a moron!
Vegas wants you to bet Auburn / Oregon
Public is all over Oregon
Public is all over Auburn
Sharps are all over Auburn / Oregon
Line move means bet on Auburn / Oregon
Biggest play of the year on Auburn / Oregon
Im all in on Auburn / Oregon
No need to overanalyze, Auburn / Oregon is the way to go
Why isnt Auburn / Oregon favored by more?
Dont be a sucker, bet Auburn / Oregon
LOCK LOCK LOCK

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

As one of my favorite bands Sublime says - its getting harder and harder and harder each and every year.....

Quote Originally Posted by whereismyhat:

Sublime is my favorite band.  I would have never thought you would like this type music. 

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I gotta check this place out.

From what I hear, they are old school take any comers type of place, with live in game wagering.

Anyone been there or has any comments?