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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2020 - 6:33 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1:

    Yeah agree on sensibility of the BIG 10 situation unless the plan is to make it a stepping stone to another hostile takeover .... You'd think the conferences might have contemplated that players would eventually demand firm commitments covering all the major and minor 'what if's' of Covid lol... Woulda been much less risky to set the table on that early instead of waiting for the unity demands to come flooding in and hope they're reasonable... and really really hope you're only dealing with one of these unity groups because you can imagine how many sharks are circling these conferences right now and they're not all hungry for enhanced covid testing protocols lol...  Just the skep in my but I kinda think this coulda been more/less already planned out with the conference ahead of time .. they did stick to very reasonable sounding covid processes and really directing their 'demand' at the NCAA to work with the conference not calling out the conference itself... so idk .. woulda been slick if they actually got out ahead of the sharks with this one .... But if they are really getting blindsided then I'd think all these 'reasonable sounding demands' are looking like a stepping stone .. maybe to get them signed up for all the non-compliance lawsuits. Not to mention really would put this group first in line for maybe a real negotiation next season!!!!

     

    I completely agree with this. If they get anything now above and beyond

    Covid protections, I'm sure they ask for more prior to the start of next season .

     

     

     

     

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    Yeah agree on sensibility of the BIG 10 situation unless the plan is to make it a stepping stone to another hostile takeover .... You'd think the conferences might have contemplated that players would eventually demand firm commitments covering all the major and minor 'what if's' of Covid lol... Woulda been much less risky to set the table on that early instead of waiting for the unity demands to come flooding in and hope they're reasonable... and really really hope you're only dealing with one of these unity groups because you can imagine how many sharks are circling these conferences right now and they're not all hungry for enhanced covid testing protocols lol...  Just the skep in my but I kinda think this coulda been more/less already planned out with the conference ahead of time .. they did stick to very reasonable sounding covid processes and really directing their 'demand' at the NCAA to work with the conference not calling out the conference itself... so idk .. woulda been slick if they actually got out ahead of the sharks with this one .... But if they are really getting blindsided then I'd think all these 'reasonable sounding demands' are looking like a stepping stone .. maybe to get them signed up for all the non-compliance lawsuits. Not to mention really would put this group first in line for maybe a real negotiation next season!!!!

     

    I completely agree with this. If they get anything now above and beyond

    Covid protections, I'm sure they ask for more prior to the start of next season .

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2020 - 7:40 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: The BIG 2020 football schedule has just been released. They will start their season on 9 /3 , and conclude their regular season on 11 / 21. The BIG Championship will be held on 12 / 5 .   GLTA     The harder you work , the Luckier you'll get Whoo-hoooo!! Hope it stays intact. See NW doesn't visit MSU until week #3. Minny, even without top WR should roll at East Lansing.

     

     

    Yeah , did the Wildcats get shafted . They start out at Penn St. , then follow with Wisconsin

    before they get Mich. St. Weeks 1 & 2 we'll get a chance to see what they're made of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: The BIG 2020 football schedule has just been released. They will start their season on 9 /3 , and conclude their regular season on 11 / 21. The BIG Championship will be held on 12 / 5 .   GLTA     The harder you work , the Luckier you'll get Whoo-hoooo!! Hope it stays intact. See NW doesn't visit MSU until week #3. Minny, even without top WR should roll at East Lansing.

     

     

    Yeah , did the Wildcats get shafted . They start out at Penn St. , then follow with Wisconsin

    before they get Mich. St. Weeks 1 & 2 we'll get a chance to see what they're made of.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2020 - 8:05 PM ET #53

    Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting .. 

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    Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting .. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 9:24 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1:

    Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting ..

     

    Bridge , The PAC 12 officials have scheduled a talk with the Unity group for

    this afternoon . That gets their foot in the door , let's see if the Unity group

    is smart enough to temper their demands so they can get a " W " on the

    board and also gain some credibility.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1:

    Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting ..

     

    Bridge , The PAC 12 officials have scheduled a talk with the Unity group for

    this afternoon . That gets their foot in the door , let's see if the Unity group

    is smart enough to temper their demands so they can get a " W " on the

    board and also gain some credibility.

     

    peace_5

     

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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 10:52 AM ET #55

    FYI , The ACC has just posted their 2020 college Football schedule.

    Games begin on 9 /12.

     

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    FYI , The ACC has just posted their 2020 college Football schedule.

    Games begin on 9 /12.

     

    GLTA

     

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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 11:08 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    FYI , The ACC has just posted their 2020 college Football schedule. Games begin on 9 /12.   GLTA   The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get

     

    FYI , Notre Dame plays Duke , Clemson is at Wake Forest on 9 /12

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    FYI , The ACC has just posted their 2020 college Football schedule. Games begin on 9 /12.   GLTA   The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get

     

    FYI , Notre Dame plays Duke , Clemson is at Wake Forest on 9 /12

     

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    Yeah the unity lawyer is doing the wall street 'life comes down to a few moments' mirror talk before that one lol... we'll see I think coming out with some massive transformation change put the PAC Unity folks in a tricky spot, very easy for PAC to say were not gunna work with you hucksters and just do the 'change' dance without them .. if they really got 100 players really ready to boycott their scholarship away then put that to the test and see if their coach can talk some sense into them ...or ... just gotta say goodbye ... BIG Unity seemed like a much better 'come to the table' spot and man they are definitely hoping PAC Unity doesn't set the tone by getting 86'd before they get their shot ...  

     

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    Yeah the unity lawyer is doing the wall street 'life comes down to a few moments' mirror talk before that one lol... we'll see I think coming out with some massive transformation change put the PAC Unity folks in a tricky spot, very easy for PAC to say were not gunna work with you hucksters and just do the 'change' dance without them .. if they really got 100 players really ready to boycott their scholarship away then put that to the test and see if their coach can talk some sense into them ...or ... just gotta say goodbye ... BIG Unity seemed like a much better 'come to the table' spot and man they are definitely hoping PAC Unity doesn't set the tone by getting 86'd before they get their shot ...  

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 4:18 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.

     

    Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out

    for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft.

    Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.

     

    More to follow , I'm sure.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.

     

    Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out

    for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft.

    Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.

     

    More to follow , I'm sure.

     

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    Ooooooo, losing Parsons a BIG loss for the Lions! That guy a big leader on "D"!!

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    Ooooooo, losing Parsons a BIG loss for the Lions! That guy a big leader on "D"!!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2020 - 7:47 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1: Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting ..   Bridge , The PAC 12 officials have scheduled a talk with the Unity group for this afternoon . That gets their foot in the door , let's see if the Unity group is smart enough to temper their demands so they can get a " W " on the board and also gain some credibility.     The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

    College players have very little leverage compared to pros. 

    1) This is the wrong year to threaten to quit, because most colleges are already on the fence about having a season

    2) Most fans of college football are fans for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with the quality of play unlike the NFL.  Let's say it is a normal, non-COVID year, and all the scholarship athletes go on strike and colleges are forced to make teams out of walk-ons.  Here are the different sets of fans:

          A) Grew up as fan of team, alumni of school, or enrolled at school: if walkons play, still going to be fans, still going to tailgate. 

          B) Gamblers:  as long as there are lines, gamblers will bet on games and will watch

          C) Casual fan: viewership might be down a little, but you never know, the novelty of 11 "Rudies" on the field might be compelling.

    3) Most NFL players that go on strike have already made money, and they get paid from a strike fund, and they can expect the strike to be over in a year. College players go on strike, worst case scenario is they lose their scholarship, and they have nothing. No NFL/XFL team touches them because they are troublemakers. 

     

    The only thing they have in their favor is optics, it wouldn't look good for the NCAA to take away their scholarships, etc,

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1: Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting ..   Bridge , The PAC 12 officials have scheduled a talk with the Unity group for this afternoon . That gets their foot in the door , let's see if the Unity group is smart enough to temper their demands so they can get a " W " on the board and also gain some credibility.     The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

    College players have very little leverage compared to pros. 

    1) This is the wrong year to threaten to quit, because most colleges are already on the fence about having a season

    2) Most fans of college football are fans for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with the quality of play unlike the NFL.  Let's say it is a normal, non-COVID year, and all the scholarship athletes go on strike and colleges are forced to make teams out of walk-ons.  Here are the different sets of fans:

          A) Grew up as fan of team, alumni of school, or enrolled at school: if walkons play, still going to be fans, still going to tailgate. 

          B) Gamblers:  as long as there are lines, gamblers will bet on games and will watch

          C) Casual fan: viewership might be down a little, but you never know, the novelty of 11 "Rudies" on the field might be compelling.

    3) Most NFL players that go on strike have already made money, and they get paid from a strike fund, and they can expect the strike to be over in a year. College players go on strike, worst case scenario is they lose their scholarship, and they have nothing. No NFL/XFL team touches them because they are troublemakers. 

     

    The only thing they have in their favor is optics, it wouldn't look good for the NCAA to take away their scholarships, etc,

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

     

    This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted

    out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.

     

    More to come .  peace_5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

     

    This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted

    out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.

     

    More to come .  peace_5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

     

    These opt outs WILL materially adversely impact production of their respective

    teams. This + Covid potential around game day could be problematic.

    Be careful what price you pay for production risk as well as potential Covid risk.

    Your Bookmaker is probably hoping you'll forget about opt outs and production

    losses when you make your wager.  an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

     

    These opt outs WILL materially adversely impact production of their respective

    teams. This + Covid potential around game day could be problematic.

    Be careful what price you pay for production risk as well as potential Covid risk.

    Your Bookmaker is probably hoping you'll forget about opt outs and production

    losses when you make your wager.  an_light

    GLTA

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1: Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting ..   Bridge , The PAC 12 officials have scheduled a talk with the Unity group for this afternoon . That gets their foot in the door , let's see if the Unity group is smart enough to temper their demands so they can get a " W " on the board and also gain some credibility.     The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.   College players have very little leverage compared to pros.  1) This is the wrong year to threaten to quit, because most colleges are already on the fence about having a season 2) Most fans of college football are fans for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with the quality of play unlike the NFL.  Let's say it is a normal, non-COVID year, and all the scholarship athletes go on strike and colleges are forced to make teams out of walk-ons.  Here are the different sets of fans:       A) Grew up as fan of team, alumni of school, or enrolled at school: if walkons play, still going to be fans, still going to tailgate.        B) Gamblers:  as long as there are lines, gamblers will bet on games and will watch       C) Casual fan: viewership might be down a little, but you never know, the novelty of 11 "Rudies" on the field might be compelling. 3) Most NFL players that go on strike have already made money, and they get paid from a strike fund, and they can expect the strike to be over in a year. College players go on strike, worst case scenario is they lose their scholarship, and they have nothing. No NFL/XFL team touches them because they are troublemakers.    The only thing they have in their favor is optics, it wouldn't look good for the NCAA to take away their scholarships, etc,

     

    Youth has to learn a few things about life as they grow into adulthood and the

    challenges they will experience in the adult working world. One of those lessons

    they are learning now is that insubordination has it's consequences. Players got kicked

    off of the team at WAZZU because they told Rolovich that they did not want to

    practice or play. There are , and should be consequences for players who choose

    not to honor their commitment to the program . they have yet to fully understand

    just what those consequences actually look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1: Yeah Wise I don't think they even need to ask for anything beyond covid right now if my goal is to eventually cut the 'player revenue' deal .... Right now I'd just try to wiggle into some negotiating role and look like I'm getting them an extra good covid deal and maybe get other conferences on board my unity train... Then hope I look like a hero and have the chops and the rolodex to go for the jugular next year.... Seems its a little late in the game to get greedy and very easy for the BIG-10 to just do everything on the list and tell them to take a hike... which they should do regardless whenever the unity lawyers show up and try to wiggle themselves in a meeting ..   Bridge , The PAC 12 officials have scheduled a talk with the Unity group for this afternoon . That gets their foot in the door , let's see if the Unity group is smart enough to temper their demands so they can get a " W " on the board and also gain some credibility.     The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.   College players have very little leverage compared to pros.  1) This is the wrong year to threaten to quit, because most colleges are already on the fence about having a season 2) Most fans of college football are fans for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with the quality of play unlike the NFL.  Let's say it is a normal, non-COVID year, and all the scholarship athletes go on strike and colleges are forced to make teams out of walk-ons.  Here are the different sets of fans:       A) Grew up as fan of team, alumni of school, or enrolled at school: if walkons play, still going to be fans, still going to tailgate.        B) Gamblers:  as long as there are lines, gamblers will bet on games and will watch       C) Casual fan: viewership might be down a little, but you never know, the novelty of 11 "Rudies" on the field might be compelling. 3) Most NFL players that go on strike have already made money, and they get paid from a strike fund, and they can expect the strike to be over in a year. College players go on strike, worst case scenario is they lose their scholarship, and they have nothing. No NFL/XFL team touches them because they are troublemakers.    The only thing they have in their favor is optics, it wouldn't look good for the NCAA to take away their scholarships, etc,

     

    Youth has to learn a few things about life as they grow into adulthood and the

    challenges they will experience in the adult working world. One of those lessons

    they are learning now is that insubordination has it's consequences. Players got kicked

    off of the team at WAZZU because they told Rolovich that they did not want to

    practice or play. There are , and should be consequences for players who choose

    not to honor their commitment to the program . they have yet to fully understand

    just what those consequences actually look like.

    Thorpe  peace_5

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

    FWIW , The players who have chosen to " opt out " so far are projected to go in the

    first round in the 2020 NFL draft.For them this is strictly a business decision and I

    understand their reasoning. I believe there will be more potential first rounders

    that will also opt out prior to the start of the season for similar reasons.

    I also believe that this strategy will also filter down to second and third rounders

    and other wannabes as well before the start of play .

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.

     

    FWIW , The players who have chosen to " opt out " so far are projected to go in the

    first round in the 2020 NFL draft.For them this is strictly a business decision and I

    understand their reasoning. I believe there will be more potential first rounders

    that will also opt out prior to the start of the season for similar reasons.

    I also believe that this strategy will also filter down to second and third rounders

    and other wannabes as well before the start of play .

    GLTA

     

    The Harder you Work, the Luckier you'll get.

     

     
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    BYU @ Navy is penciled in for week 1 ... Coogs better dust off that triple option for dummies book ASAP lol.. 

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    Bridge , Thanks for the " Heads Up " . What date are they playing ?

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    Bridge , Thanks for the " Heads Up " . What date are they playing ?

     

    Never mind . I found it. Monday night 9 / 7

    Thanks again , Bud .   peace_5

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    Never mind . I found it. Monday night 9 / 7

    Thanks again , Bud .   peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridge1:

    BYU @ Navy is penciled in for week 1 ... Coogs better dust off that triple option for dummies book ASAP lol..

     

    Be Careful . Malcom Perry is in the NFL , and Navy is starting a QB in Chance Warren

    who has very limited experience as a passer and a runner.

     

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    Be Careful . Malcom Perry is in the NFL , and Navy is starting a QB in Chance Warren

    who has very limited experience as a passer and a runner.

     

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    Just in : Mountain West players have organized and published their list of

    health and safety concerns.

     

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    Just in : Mountain West players have organized and published their list of

    health and safety concerns.

     

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    SEC has published their Covid protocols for the upcoming season .

    Appears to be well thought out and player friendly relative to

    safety and testing.

     

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    SEC has published their Covid protocols for the upcoming season .

    Appears to be well thought out and player friendly relative to

    safety and testing.

     

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    The BIG has given teams approval to begin Fall Camp activities  beginning today.

    Let's see how it goes .

     

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    The BIG has given teams approval to begin Fall Camp activities  beginning today.

    Let's see how it goes .

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.   FWIW , The players who have chosen to " opt out " so far are projected to go in the first round in the 2020 NFL draft.For them this is strictly a business decision and I understand their reasoning. I believe there will be more potential first rounders that will also opt out prior to the start of the season for similar reasons. I also believe that this strategy will also filter down to second and third rounders and other wannabes as well before the start of play . GLTA   The Harder you Work, the Luckier you'll get.

     

    Maryland Coach Mike Locksley told reporters today that 6 Maryland football

    players have opted out of the 2020 Football season. Players include starting

    LG Austin Fontaine , and backup QB  Josh Jackson. The rest are reserve

    players.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.   FWIW , The players who have chosen to " opt out " so far are projected to go in the first round in the 2020 NFL draft.For them this is strictly a business decision and I understand their reasoning. I believe there will be more potential first rounders that will also opt out prior to the start of the season for similar reasons. I also believe that this strategy will also filter down to second and third rounders and other wannabes as well before the start of play . GLTA   The Harder you Work, the Luckier you'll get.

     

    Maryland Coach Mike Locksley told reporters today that 6 Maryland football

    players have opted out of the 2020 Football season. Players include starting

    LG Austin Fontaine , and backup QB  Josh Jackson. The rest are reserve

    players.

     

    GLTA

     
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    "I also believe that this strategy will also filter down to second and third rounders and other wannabes as well before the start of play "

     

    Very true, even for MAC teams, many people close to the team think the best player on the team is a 1st round pick, and there are 2 or 3 more top 4 round picks for any given year.  For every Khalil Mack, there are a ton of Khalil Hodges (productive LB but undrafted and not even a UFA) who thought he was a lock for the NFL.

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    Very true, even for MAC teams, many people close to the team think the best player on the team is a 1st round pick, and there are 2 or 3 more top 4 round picks for any given year.  For every Khalil Mack, there are a ton of Khalil Hodges (productive LB but undrafted and not even a UFA) who thought he was a lock for the NFL.

     
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    'sup Thorpe....actually made some decent points here man ha.....

    Steele might have to put out another magazine...

    Yep, college players have more leverage than ever....and may get a few changes sure.....BUT the NFL operates on 1930 principles, and somehow does whatever they want, literally a buncha of fat / old white guys sitting around smoking ceegars ....running a 'non-profit' that earns billions with a CEO making 40 million/year or so ha >> mess with our brand, better be really good (see Tyreek Hill) ...if not, you will get punished (see Ray Rice / CK).

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    'sup Thorpe....actually made some decent points here man ha.....

    Steele might have to put out another magazine...

    Yep, college players have more leverage than ever....and may get a few changes sure.....BUT the NFL operates on 1930 principles, and somehow does whatever they want, literally a buncha of fat / old white guys sitting around smoking ceegars ....running a 'non-profit' that earns billions with a CEO making 40 million/year or so ha >> mess with our brand, better be really good (see Tyreek Hill) ...if not, you will get punished (see Ray Rice / CK).

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.   FWIW , The players who have chosen to " opt out " so far are projected to go in the first round in the 2020 NFL draft.For them this is strictly a business decision and I understand their reasoning. I believe there will be more potential first rounders that will also opt out prior to the start of the season for similar reasons. I also believe that this strategy will also filter down to second and third rounders and other wannabes as well before the start of play . GLTA   The Harder you Work, the Luckier you'll get.   Maryland Coach Mike Locksley told reporters today that 6 Maryland football players have opted out of the 2020 Football season. Players include starting LG Austin Fontaine , and backup QB  Josh Jackson. The rest are reserve players.   GLTA

     

     

    North Carolina has announced that 3 players are choosing to " opt out " of the

    2020 football season . The 3 ( all DB's ) are DJ Ford , Bryce Watts , and also

    Javon terry. Watts ( a starter at corner ) and the others create a significant

    depth problem for the Heels defensive secondary.

     

    More to come. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36: Well , here we go with the start of " Opt Outs " as Minnesota WR Rashod Bateman joins Va Tech's Caleb Farley as declaring to opt out of the 2020 season. Both are projected to be First round selections in next years NFL draft.     Add to the List : Michigan State , starting DE Jacub Panasiuk will opt out this season.   Add another to the list :   Miami ( F ) DE  Gregory Rousseau  has chosen to opt out for the 2020 season. He is considered as a first round selection in the 2021 NFL draft. Penn State LB Micah Parsons joins this list as well.   More to follow , I'm sure.   The Harder you work , the Luckier you'll get.     This is really getting interesting . Add to the List :  Purdue WR Rondale Moore has opted out of the 2020 season to prepare for the NFL draft.   More to come .    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.   FWIW , The players who have chosen to " opt out " so far are projected to go in the first round in the 2020 NFL draft.For them this is strictly a business decision and I understand their reasoning. I believe there will be more potential first rounders that will also opt out prior to the start of the season for similar reasons. I also believe that this strategy will also filter down to second and third rounders and other wannabes as well before the start of play . GLTA   The Harder you Work, the Luckier you'll get.   Maryland Coach Mike Locksley told reporters today that 6 Maryland football players have opted out of the 2020 Football season. Players include starting LG Austin Fontaine , and backup QB  Josh Jackson. The rest are reserve players.   GLTA

     

     

    North Carolina has announced that 3 players are choosing to " opt out " of the

    2020 football season . The 3 ( all DB's ) are DJ Ford , Bryce Watts , and also

    Javon terry. Watts ( a starter at corner ) and the others create a significant

    depth problem for the Heels defensive secondary.

     

    More to come. 

     

    The Harder you Work , the Luckier you'll get.

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